An American friend once told me the USA was the freest place in the world. Then she told me she carried a gun in her hand bag to protect herself. I realised then we had very different definitions of the word 'freedom'.
Power doesn't = Freedom. The misguided freedom enjoyed by those who have power & the might is right to cause pain to those who are peaceful & powerless in comparison. - this topic could be a whole video in itself.
I recently watched an American video discussing the best guns for home defense. Just how alien this is to people in other countries is simply unknown to lots of Americans. It's horrible .
I'm a Kiwi, I live in Australia for the last 40 years. I have worked for Americans, been close friends with many Americans, and now I broadcast to radio stations in the USA. I think i know quite a lot about both the USA and New Zealand. I would endorse everything you have said in this video. Occasionally I've been stupid enough to try to get Americans to see that maybe other places (e.g. New Zealand) do some things better than the US. It's always been a mistake to try that. Americans, as a rule, have been so strongly indoctrinated that the USA is the greatest country in the world that they just cannot accept that anyone else could do anything better than them. I've had professional differences in my career trying to get my American boss to accept that the technology I'm using is about a decade ahead of what they're using in the USA. I have always admired the USA, but i am dismayed in the last few years at how ignorance has been accepted as an advantage in the USA. That Americans will accept the corruption and dishonesty of their politicians when they should be kicking them in the .. um .. shins - HARD.
Mike - this is really well said (especially about the politicians!). You would have a great perspective as well on this subject. It is hard for Americans to see another perspective.
@@Kiwiamericans I don’t mean my remarks to be a criticism of Americans. I suspect it’s a natural consequence of being a dominant power. I think the British were much the same in the 19th century and the Roman’s too probably. Note how the British said that James Cook “discovered” NZ when the Dutch and the French had already been there, and the Māoris too for that matter So what mattered to the British was that Cook was the first person that mattered to visit NZ all the others didn’t count.
@@afpwebworks Yep, Cook "discovered" Australia too, despite the locals being here for the past 60,000+ years. The arrogance of power. I'm an Aussie and have been back & forward a lot to the USA (family, friends & business) over the past 40 odd years. I used to love the USA at first but am now equally appalled/disgusted as to the American general descent into violence, stupidity & corruption. I term it the "Me, me, me" MOB as against the AUS/NZ "We, we, we" SOCIETY.
What you talking about? The Dutch did first discovered these islands yes (Aus and NZ) but they then never claimed or settled there. James Cook came along and confirmed it, then tried to settle them. The Dutch didnt. Big difference.
Was watching an interview with an American professor talking about drug prices. After a while I noticed that rathér rather than call people " Patients" requiring a certain drug he called them "The consumer". I thought that summed up the American health care system perfectly.
Hi ☺️ I'm Australian and I honestly hope this doesn't sound patronising, because I mean this earnestly, but hearing what you had to say on this video really really warmed my heart. It's common as an English speaker to consume lots of US media and to interact with Americans online - and on some levels I always feel they're slightly not getting "stuff" - YOU truly have managed to reprogram yourself from the US brainwashing and you are speaking my language. As in - when I speak to many Americans about healthcare or gun violence it's like they're so so blinkered it's like they just don't hear me and I've often been called a communist etc - which I'm not. Or they assume I have a political agenda - I don't. Sorry my comment is a little incoherent, I'm struggling to find the right words - but honestly I wish you could take what you have learnt and help other American people understand what you beautifully demonstrate you now understand so well. I really feel American people have been led to a place that scares me and I honestly wish America could culturally open up to some improvements that would make their country much better for people.
In many ways US people seem very similar to us yet the culture of using violence as the first option is deeply ingrained. When some people in the US heard about the measures adopted in Australia to limit the spread of COVID and reduce its death rate, measures they disagreed with, they were saying the US should invade Australia. What! The state governments adopting those measures had huge popular approval - in my state 82% - which is the democracy US citizens say they support. And the measures worked. Restrictions have been largely withdrawn now that we have over 93% vaccinated but our death rate is still a tiny fraction of the rate they are enduring in the US.
As a Kiwi living in Aus with a heap of American friends, this video makes me super happy. Thanks for sharing your perspective. It’s always refreshing to see an American willing to see things through a different lens. NZ isn’t perfect, but we are pretty proud of our little country when it comes to quality of life.
I have to say as a kiwi who was born sick and my medical needs are growing I really feel blessed that most of my care is paid for. I also have private medical insurance which at this point is $70 a week and I essentially break even with what I claim back. If I was born in America I would be dead because the medication I need would cost over $1000 American dollars a week. I belong to an international support group for one of my illnesses online and I've lost many American friends in the group simply because they couldn't afford the medication needed to stay alive. It's something I struggle to understand.
On the health care system, we are happy to have to pay a little more tax than Americans do to give us peace of mind that if anything happens to us and we need medical care, we can simply walk out of the hospital with the same amount of money in the bank as the moment we walked in or were admitted. We think its totally crazy, insane, nuts that just because you have an accident you can end up losing your house, your lifestyle and sometimes end up being homeless. We believe the American health care system is totally and completely insane beyond belief.
There are several freedom indexes: Economical freedom: New Zealand rank 2 - United States rank 20 Human freedom: New Zealand rank 1 - United States rank 17 Press freedom: New Zealand rank 8 - United States rank 44
@@351clevelandmodifiedmotor4 not going to watch your vid But lived in many 3rd world countries New Zealand has a democracy I camp on beaches Argue with police Free
@@351clevelandmodifiedmotor4 Our PM trying to keep people healthy, and minimise the number of people who die of covid-19, doesn't make New Zealand a dictatorship; it makes New Zealand safer for everyone.
@@351clevelandmodifiedmotor4 No one is forcing you to do anything.You are free not to mask or not to take the vaccine. There are consequences for not doing so however. NZ is not a dictatorship I've seen dictatorships close up and it is obvious that you haven't.
Great video! I have been teaching for 23 years, and I am dreading the upcoming school year. We had a threat on one of our last days (during a pep rally), and only three of us got the alert and went into lock-down. I managed not to freak the kids out, and we got an all-clear, but then our principal did not alert the rest of the staff. My teammates and I went to every teacher on the field and made sure they knew to keep their eyes peeled for the kid who was off campus that threatened to show up and kill everyone. The SRO (the campus officer) said it was okay because the kid was at home. No more details after that. So, my confidence in leadership is at zero. I love my country, but want better for my son. I am considering starting the intensive process to get qualified to teach in NZ. I am afraid that I cannot devote enough time to do the paperwork since I teach an extra class to make ends meet, but I know we need to move by next summer. The stress is difficult, and we were told this year not to mention climate change in lessons since parents here thing it is controversial or fake. The curriculum is being limited, even when part of what I teach (per state guidelines) is critical thinking and evaluating sources. It is disheartening to say the least, and it is extremely stressful. Thanks so much for the video and for offering a fresh perspective.
I moved to New Zealand 40 years ago from Canada and I agree that this is the best country (that I've seen anyway). The government cares about its citizens, the cops don't even carry guns, it's the 1st country to give women the vote, prostitution is legal, so is distilling alcohol, we never start wars (partly because we'd lose) and the weather is perfect.
Hi mate. I'm an ex-pat Canadian too - been here 49 years since December 1973. Been around the world nearly 5 times on business and pleasure - haven't found a city I'd rather live in than Christchurch, and I've been to a LOT of cities! As for the perfect weather - all I can say is that it beats the Hell out of weather in ANY part of Canada, but perfect?? Yeah NAH! Hell, the GOLF season here goes through the autumn, winter and spring - try THAT in Canada. Me too, mate - I ain't leavin'!! NZ citizen since 1978.
@@warren52nz After THIS week you're saying the weather's perfect?? I'm surprised Waiheke's still above sea level!! At least it's hot and dry down here!
Well done Tara, thoroughly enjoyed today's session. I watch a lot of what's happening in the USA at present and I'm truly shocked by the amount of violence and corruption going on in front of their very eyes. A good friend of mine did his law degree at UCLA a few years back now, he the experience he had there but was so glad to come home. He said there was so much stress on a daily for him, not only with school, but the constant violence happening around the city. I could never imagine having to see kids go through shooter training, that's definitely not freedom. Your family must feel so relaxed living here and I understand why.
I’ve visited the US from NZ for more then twenty years and America has changed to my mind and not for the better. The health regime enslaves employees to the job because that’s what your system wants. For nation all about freedom America is very good at denying options and mobility to its citizens. You do good job, keep it up.
The Queen's representive in NZ , the Governor General, has an titular role and really only exercises their responsibilities on the advice of our Government. Hence NZ is self governing and we didn't need to "throw the British out" to achieve that. Found your comments on freedom very interesting. As a New Zealander looking in, the US seems one of the least free countries in the developed world.
Agree with Blah Blah we don't see ourselves as being under the Queen. It doesn't really feature in everyday life. Alot of Kiwis want to become a republic but then the issue is what would we replace that with and the way things are is kind of fine anyway. Getting rid of the Crown would also create issues with The Treaty of Waitangi too because that was an "agreement" between Maori and the Crown so not sure what that would do to the status of that "agreement."
@@francoiselafferty-hancock5112 Probebly for good 👍 to be a own country not understand why worship a queen in another part of earth 🤔 Say UK are not in best place anymore are crap and cracks apart Brexit destroy UK forever and be part of sinking ship are go to be expensive for all around 🤔
Thank you for this and for all of your videos. As an American, I can totally confirm every point you make. American culture is devouring it's own people and it's not healthy for the body or mind. I'll be happy to be joining you in New Zealand in the next year. Or as soon as it's open to travel. I will be a proud Kiwi!
Having had two professional families from the US as neighbours, I've experienced a lot of what you were talking about. I adored them but their work/life balance actually stressed us out as we tried to help them. One woman was a specialist and lived in fear of litigation which would probably be a whole other video. I also watched another video last night on RUclips highlighting the disparity in wages in the US, and the manipulation of working hours per week to keep basic workers below the 40 hour limit for providing permanent job benefits. I love Americans, but we can all benefit from seeing how things work elsewhere.
Man, I was already stoked to try to make the move from the US to New Zealand, and every single point here resonated with me. EVERY ONE! Thank you so much for this, and hello from Wisconsin (Madison).
I used to work for a compay that was owned in the US, we had a visit from some of the top guys from America once, and they couldn't understand why the workers here in NZ worked to live instead of live to work, like they expected in the states.
You made me laugh when you were making reference to the Social Healthcare we have here. It is so true. A couple of years ago I fainted at a Train Station. I don't remember fainting just waking up 5 hours later in a bed at the Emergency Department at Auckland Hospital. Doctor came and talked with. They had all my details (don't how they got them) and said she wanted me to stay overnight to keep an eye on me. I ask for some food cause I was hungry as. Then went to sleep. Wokeup to breakfast being served. About half an hour later the day doctor came and checked me out. Handing me a prescription he then discharged me saying if i felt any further dizziness to call ambulance. I said thank you so much. Put my shoes on and left heading for Hospital Pharmacy. I was given two lots of meds. Now. Here's why i laughed.Until now, I had never thought about the cost of it all. I suppose not many, if any, actually would. It is reassuring to know if need to go to the doctors and more so the hospital. You've got absolutelynothing to worty about. You just go and get yourself better. Thanks for the video today. Helped me understand America's more. In a good way 👍 Enjoy your channel heaps 😊
I've needed an epidural for pain for over a year but since I'm not working, I can't pay my medical balance and therefore can't treat my leg and neck THAT'S the usa (i won't say "America" because America isn't solely the USA)
@@jennyfab312 From the perspective of another western country, we think that is simply nuts. Not just a New Zealand perspective, but Australia, UK, Canada, Western Europe. I'm sure, if you talked with anyone of us you'd find we just can't understand why you didn't get medical care. It doesn't make any sense to us. What wealthy government treats its own people that way? How can you work if you need an epidural? And that's a simple thing to get done. And if you are not working then you are not paying taxes. So it makes zero sense even on an economic level. In New Zealand and Australia we don't have private health insurance so that we can get medical care. If we get private health insurance, it is so that we can skip the queue in the public system and be treated faster. So if I was out of work I might have to wait to see a specialist but the service would be free.
That's very sad, Jennifer. I think the health care system in the US is deliberately designed to entrap its people so that they stay at their jobs in order to afford it. That's how the rich get away with not having to pay better wages because workers aren't able to leave freely.
kiwis are the same ,, I think it comes down to early learnings , and wearing a uniform at most schools,, getting used to being in the same clothes all school week ,, carries over to not needing to find an outfit for tomorrow , just wear what was good for yesterday , its still good today and just fine for tomorrow
Definitely agree on the US screaming freedom but it sure doesn't look like it. When you're trapped in a job because of health care where's your freedom.
I am an old man, flew as a professional pilot (both military and civil) for 41 years, went to the USA many times and all over the world and now live in New Zealand . That was one of the best RUclips clips I have ever seen, well done. Get more like minded Americans with their families over here. They are welcome and we need them.
Yes, everyone is welcome. However NZ does not "need" unchecked population growth. Or the destruction of natural resources required to enable it. Example: USA holds 95% of NZ (Oceania) petroleum and mineral leases for the next 40 years. USA military & NASA is operating out of Mahia Penninsula. The world arms expo was held in NZ. Kiwisaver invests in Lockheed Martin. Monsanto is a prime example of moving dirty practices off shore to other places. I could list many many more. Wake up, this eutopian view is a fallacy.
I think it's amazing that in New Zealand they have more of a community-centered culture as opposed to what we have here in the US, which is more individual-centered.
brother we don't have the diversity of the us, which makes us a bit defensive and uptight, ive never been to the us. but i believe i have met my fair share of americans and the ones i've met have been pretty normal & i find american females extremely cool and attractive. Also brother i've always found it was the so called kiwi's who always seem to be the most hung up on countries of origin call it pride if you like, i think we need to prove our little pond is just as significant as your big pond. Your correct when you do find the right community it is pretty amazing and im sure our cultures won't differ that much as really it's just hospitality good manners and generosity. i believe you get more in the us then Aotearoa but i'm happy in my slice of Aotearoa.
Your thoughts are so heartfelt, it made me appreciative of being a New Zealander. So please know this, Welcome to NZ as I feel that your family will enrich us all 🇳🇿❤️
Great video! I am a Catalan, from Barcelona, but I lived in the US for five years in my youth (from the time I was 17 until I was 22). I love the States, and I consider them my second home. This being said, I fully agree with everything said in this video. In fact, it reminds me of what I used to tell my American friends when I lived there (but they found it difficult to believe me). Now, I have sent my oldest son to study in New Zealand, rather than the US, mainly because of a security issue.
As a Kiwi I always found it weird when being abroad with Brits, Canadians Aussies and all other manner of free people to hear Americans constantly say how free they are. All the other counties look at each other a say they know we're all free here right? I've never felt the need to tell others how free I am, I just am.
Actually, nobody who lives in a society is free. Personal freedom ceases as soon as one comes in contact with another person. We live in a society because there are lots of advantages over living alone. Each of us can specialise using particular skills, while living alone means we alk have to be farmers and soldiers. In order to live in a society we have to give up some of our freedoms, such as driving on the wrong side of the road.
We are no more 'free' than Americans. Try going to the Devonport Naval Base: you can't just wander in there as you might wish as you may not be able to go into an American Naval Base. You will be stopped with a capital S in both countries. You are not Free to do what you want. If it is against the law you have to face the consequences in both countries. I don't think there is much difference other than there is a promotion for the use of guns and not so much in NZ altho possibly in the use of hunting. I am NZer and have been to the USA and found it very similar with regard to housing etc and their acceptance of our strange ways. Interesting indeed. 😮😮😮
Andrew Shanaghan: I'm a Kiwi and there is plenty of great stuff about America in my opinion! The U.S was one of the first places I travelled to as a kid and I found the people to be friendly and engaging. I loved Seattle, San Francisco and California and would love to go back and see more of the U.S. Sure there's some bad stuff going on, but no need to write off the whole country ❤
@@haleyrichardson8818 I said it sounds dreadful I don't see how thats writing the whole country off .....when you read something try to understand the words as you do. I also have spent time in California Hawaii Las Vegas and New York so I know I t can be a wonderful country if your not into racial equality woman's and LGBT rights in fact if your a white middle aged man with a bit of money like me it's awesome.....but then I'm not likely to be confused with a unarmed black man trying cast a vote or a girl that's been raped by someone and can't get an abortion or the grieving parents of a child that's been shot at school because active shooter training doesn't mean you can out run bullets...I'm sure their experience is vastly different than yours or mine. ❤
There are many nice and pleasant little towns scattered all over America. It's still a good place to live in many areas. Housing is about a 1/3rd the cost of NZ and the average American is a friendly, helpful person (once you get out of the big cities).
This was very good video. I am Australian and most of your comments apply to Aust. as well. I have been following your channel for a while now and you have opened my eyes to what it is really like in the US. I have never travelled there (only been to Europe and UK) and I only saw the US thru the eyes of TV and movies. I obviously applied my life experience filter to what I saw on the screen and life looked pretty good. But I have now been watching US entertainment content with a new perspective based on information I have learned from your channel and others and have become even more grateful I wasn't born there. I know all countries portray their best versions of themselves in their media and as outsiders we rarely see the "real" country unless we live there so it is important work you are doing to show others there are other options to the way things can be done. Keep it up, I hope your channel continues to grow.
You gotta check out the cop watchers San Joaquin, Laura Shark, Tom Zebra, Jodi Cat, We The People University etc etc, you get the ugly perspective from the public trying hold cops accountable, it's atrocious. Laura Shark is the cop watcher who filmed 18yr old Christopher Bailey after he'd been bashed to a pulp by the LASD tyrants.
Geez that consumerism thing does sound stressful. These days if I find shorts or something I really like, I'll buy a couple of pairs - then the whole shorts situation is sorted for ages. Awesome.
I found a jumper I thought I would like and bought it, wore it for a couple of winters then accidentally got paint on it when painting a house, so I went back to the shop where I got it and found they don't sell it anymore, that was really annoying, now my wife complains when I wear it because it has paint stains on it, but it's comfortable and warm.
Very well explained Tara....I am an Aussie and we are very much the same as NZ...I have been many times to the USA. While I have always had a great time there as a tourist.. You can see that below the surface there ate many problems like you have noted. We were also shocked at how many homeless people are in the States....In 1982 our first visit we thought it was great we had travelled forward 20 years...but our next visit in the early 2000's the change was enormous...And don't get me started on The gun situation... We are very scared now after the Vegas shootings that we will probably NEVER go back..before this shooting it seemed to only be schools.. So we weren't that concerned... And the racial tension is horrendous .I certainly feel for black/brown people.. I thought the sixties sorted out the civil rights for them.,...after George Floyd the world was shocked.... Have you guys been to Australia yet.... Keep up the great channel cheers x
We went over in 2019 and while in our hotel in Vegas, I made the mistake of turning the news on. Just an hour before the news updated, someone had broken into a hotel room and killed a husband and wife point blank. It was scary! It was also terrifying the amount of people in the south that casually carried guns. Also, the amount of homeless people is so sad. San Francisco and New York were the worst. People smoking crack in subways, people with clear disabilities. So sad. It was an amazing experience and we loved our trip so much, met so many amazing people and made some friends.. but I could definitely do without the damn tipping! And not having eftpos! AND not having the prices of products include GST lol.
George Floyd was a thug who the world is better off without. As for black/brown people, it is they who most often kill each other, and have very little to fear from other places. You claim to have visited the USA but you obviously learned nothing.
Hi Kara, you are spot on. I lived for years in Australia, and everything you said also applies to my experience in Australia. I'll never forgot my oncologist telling me once I was out of my mind moving back to the states as a recent cancer survivor. Enjoy life Downunder!
I’m an American that’s lived here since 1997 with my kiwi husband, and the longer that I have lived here, and have raised my children here, I realise just how lucky i am to live in such a great place. I enjoy your videos so much! When I first moved to NZ is was an adjustment for me, and my family wasn’t over the moon about me moving so far away, but I can’t ever complain about the lifestyle that I’ve been lucky enough to experience here. Yes holiday time, family time and healthcare is valued more here, and I love that!, besides the fact that it is just so beautiful! Like you said, there is no place in the world that is perfect, but there are always things that different countries can learn from each other. ❤
A really interesting piece Tara - I have often wondered about "the greatest country in the world" claims, given health care, gun ownership & subsequent violence, low minimum wage, few paid holidays, & so on. Glad you've broken out of the mould. Sure, every country has its strengths & weaknesses, but Americans could learn a lot about how other countries work - won't happen, but it would be useful. I'm in Australia, & although Oz is pretty good, I think the Kiwis kick goals way above us - especially around racism. Thanks.
As a Kiwi who visited the US in the late 70's, we New Zealanders have changed an extreme amount since I was born,1948, from a very closed society, mainly British Patriarchal to a much more open society. I grew up in a mainly working class white society with very few Polynesians, Maori's, Samoan's around, there was some racial problems, that came to the fore later but we as a society have worked hard at inclusion for all. Those New Zealanders that have not travelled (not many, for we like to look) sometimes may seem insular ,but the most are just curious about the outside world, we question what and where our country is in the scheme of things, i.e, the anti-nuclear stance, the adoption of green policies, more weight to the Treaty of Waitangi (a Treaty with the native Maori peoples), social policies which were pioneered, votes for women, pensions, health care, etc, some by the socialist Labour Governments and continued by the National Party (Conservative), we may not give much respect to our politicians, they have to work hard for a second term in office, and were punished by having a change from a cosy two party system, government and opposition, to a Proportional representational system where, you have electoral seats, and proportional seats, off which the latter are by the numbers of votes that the smaller parties rely on to enter Parliament ( they have to gain 5% of the vote and are allocated seats on what that proportion is), in all a very different society from that of the U.S. and of the United Kingdom, yes the Queen is the nominal head of the Nation, but really it is just nominal, we seem pretty passive in nature, we don't complain loudly but we do bite when poked. I hope that this gives those that are willing to try something different, a better idea of who we are, comes to visit and likes it and stays, we need a good Mexican restaurant\ fast food chain.
I think the only Americans immigrating to other countries are the ones that has been outside the US and seen what's its like, "to be on the other side of the fence". I really feel for the US citizens, who has not had the opportunity to travel and to know what the world has offer. The real freedom, healthcare, politics, employee welfare, safety, crime, the list goes on. Awesome vid Tara.
I feel sorry for people who "feel for the US citizens". That's just silly. I travel mostly in the developing world and I've see people who don't have near the comforts, opportunities and security that people in the developing world take for granted., whether it be in the US or New Zealand or Scandinavia. Most Americans have the ability to travel abroad and if they don't, its their choice. I don't see why that should cause anyone any grief. I just wish they'd quit giving me funny looks when I tell them the places I visited.
In the primaries Senator Sanders won 70 % of the vote of the expats in the Democratic primaries. Universal healthcare was one of his major campaign issues.
Thank you for making this video this is awesome. Healthcare has stressed me and my wife so much you can’t think and get paralyzed. As an American I see why Americans leave America!
Hi I am an American and for the first time have been pondering making a move to another country. I agree with you so much about the perverse, misguided emphasis on "freedom" in America and the undervaluing of education and worship of selfishness and money. I think after 2016 it became apparent that there are whole swaths of America that are more interested in trying to create a White Christian ethno nationalist state than promoting a thriving, peaceful multicultural democracy. It has broken my heart. Anyway, I've been thinking of NZ because it just seems that culturally it's more...decent. Decency and respect and community are things that I value more and more.
You will be very welcome but leave the misogynistic, uba religious l, gun toting Americans behind. We love other cultures but they need to be accepting of everyone😄
Thank you for this video. As an American, I am grateful that I am able to see people share messages like this to me and get perspective from people that have expatriated.
Great video! It should be a PSA on all media here in the U.S.! You are very lucky to have been able to make the move to NZ. My son and I were fortunate to be able to visit NZ and Australia 6 years ago. We both fell in love with NZ. I'm nearing retirement and know there is not much chance of moving to NZ now without lots of cash! I have however told my two sons to consider a move to NZ or other country with a social democracy for the very reasons you named! Especially healthcare! Sadly I feel the situation here in the U.S. is deteriorating quickly on many fronts and the nationalism drive is starting to look too familiar to historical examples! I'm very happy for you and your family that you were able to make the move!
Agree, both Aussie’s and Kiwis have this mentality where we work to live not live to work, and if we don’t has work-life balance and family and friends and health come first.
Aww Aunty you could hear those emotions in reference to the value kiwi folks place on your time with family, work and the desire to achieve balance you can hear how greatly you have valued that change here from your time in your home country.
What i really don't understand about the US is the relationship between religion and state. The US was originally founded by people wanting freedom to choose their religious beliefs but the constitution as I understand it separates government from church. However these days it seems that US political leaders can not get elected unless they at least portray themselves as religious and seemingly every speech has to mention god. It seems like the church or at least christianity and the state are very much bedfellows. I'm also of the understanding that politics and religion are not topics for casual conversation, I'm not sure how long I would last before upsetting people by giving my opinions.
Yip, I have upset people. I find I have to walk away or run because Americans see only black/white - red/blue. They see the American way as the only system that will move the world forward. Sisters is married to Floridian who is a huge maga supporter. Debates ran very hot when they were last here just after Trump won.
Ian - nice reflection on how politicians have to mention God whether sincerely or not. Yes you can not talk about it. It is one of the conversations I love avoiding living in NZ!
I moved temporarily to the US for 9 yrs from Canada. In Canada the United Chruch does good work - it sponsored the Darwin exhibit at Toronto's Royal Ontario Musem- so it seems ungentlemanly to claim atheism. After 1 yr in West Virginia and seeing the huge, omnipresent, blinkered aggressive Christianity, I decided, "Yeah, I'm an atheist". I'm not one of these guys."
Australian here. My wife and I had 4 weeks in the UK back in '18 and did a 'Jack the Ripper' tour around London. The group consisted of around 8 Americans, and us. As an aside, I love seeing Americans outside of the US as they are the few who are willing to sample life in another country, if only for a short time. Anyway, I asked the guide if Shirlock Holmes lived during the same time as JtR and she laughed, saying 'another one who thinks SH was a real person'. I honestly thought he was and told a work mate about this when I returned to work. He said that SH was a character in fiction novels. Well, I don't read fiction, never have and never will so I didn't know that. He asked if I was embarrassed at asking the question that night. I said I was but only for a moment as it then occurred to me that at least half the world's population believe fictional characters are real (I'm an atheist so you know who I mean) and there are even countries that mention said fictional character on their bank notes and the rest of the group were from one such country. My embarrassment disappeared. Whether or not you believe in God doesn't matter to me, my point is that the US makes mention of him on its bank notes, on signs in court rooms, etc. which is silly enough but that I think God is fictional makes it even more so.
I respect your point of view . The term “Team Player “ which originated in the USA really gets up my nose. I worked in a call centre in Sydney for about 18 months and everything revolves around team player , team goals , team spirit , team oriented. Team motivation!! You get the picture!! If that’s the case how come when somebody made a wrong decision it suddenly became an individual mistake. How come it wasn’t a team decision!! It makes me laugh at the stupidity of the one in all in concept. I spoke to an American about this and she said it all starts a few decades ago to motivate staff . Well I think it’s bullshit !! If it’s all about the team then the whole team should be admonished not the individual. If I don’t stop now I’ll explode !!
As a Kiwi who has never lived in New Zealand as an adult you make me want to come home. Although there are many similarities between NZ and Australia, unfortunately in many areas Australia is becoming more and more Americanised. Of course it is in all the negative areas, rather than the positive. I really hope that your challenge to people to reflect and reconsider some of their values, looking at what is important for oneself, their family, friends and community is the beginning of a new wave of kindness and social responsibility! Enjoying your vlogs!!!!!
I love that you are using your change in perspective as a topic. We can all do with taking a moment to reassess our own perspectives on life as we move through our life experiences. That's how we learn and grow to be better humans. And thank you for noticing our sense of freedom differences. Yes we are community based. My personal thought on that is, if we can work together to complete the big picture to look like a happy one when all the pieces of the puzzle are in their places, then we can feel safe in our environment knowing everything is being taken care of by someone in the community. This allows each of us to feel free, not just within the outer life around us, but also the inner life within our own minds. Where there is worry, there is a form of fear. Fear only brings feelings of limitation, restriction, entrapment, bitterness, separation..... In other words, not freedom. I'm so sorry that America is the way you have expressed. My concern is going forward, our young are being influenced more and more by the fads, the music, the movies, the crime etc., in America. Your channel is good in that you enjoy highlighting the differences from your own experiences, which hopefully will help people here, to realise that we are kiwis and we have our own way of doing things and we should never give that up to become like another.... We should all appreciate people for who they are, to teach us how to be better at being who we are. Hmmm 🤔, did I turn off on a side road somewhere back there, sorry 😌.
On guns, I worked, in Chile, with a Texan who told me that he was really upset and nervous without his gun on his belt, he apparently carries it full time, everywhere, even within his house. ""To defend myself and my family". I asked him what it was like to live in a country so dangerous that he had to carry a firearm all the time. The really scary thing, for me, was that he could not understand the question. I spend time in the USA most years, I love northern Washington in summer, and have a lot of friends there, but Texas? While there I found a lot of very good things, but the guns, I am extremely uncomfortable with that culture.
Great Insights! Freedom... I'd have to say that US citizens appear not only to overvalue freedom, many don't seem to be aware that they do not rank as number 1 in freedom indexes. Freedom house (and American organisation) scores the US at 83/100. New Zealand scores 99/100. Australia 97/100.
The American's i see in the news shouting about freedom and saying they are the freest country on earth, I kinda get the feeling they are really just thinking about guns. Americans are way more free in owning guns... and i think there's a good chunk of Americans that really only care about that.
@@blakedwan291 Not being American, I can't say... For all the issues they face, we must remember that Americans are our friends and were it not for the American spirit, we would not be enjoying modern liberal democracy they birthed and defended, and grew, strong enough to take root around the world.
Where I work we are encouraged to have a good work/life balance. If you need time off (when my mum was dying) you aren’t made to feel guilty that you have caring responsibilities.
@@drayner2517 as an ex manager I would do exactly the same thing. Quite apart from it being a nice thing to do, you would not want to be at work, you would be unproductive, the team morale would be down (a) because you were there being unhappy and (b) because I made you be there. So yes we'll suffer a little while you are away but we'll all pick up a little of your work if we can and feel we are doing something nice for you in the process.
Depending on the context, asking someone about what their job can be seen as an attempt to judge and socially stratify them, which is very un-Kiwi. And you kinda don't want to know anyway because it's awkward if it turns out their job means they're well off, because then Tall Poppy Syndrome kicks in and you have to start knocking them down a peg. Asking them also means they're obliged to ask you back, and you don't want that for the same reasons.
Hey Tara, I really appreciate your honesty and integrity - it's not easy to criticize your own culture on social media. I'm a Kiwi living in London and I've found your posts really enlightening. I'm glad you love it there and are feeling you have found yourself a new home. In relation to your final point around the American veneration of freedom and the gap between concept and practice. I wanted to share with you a BBC article written last year exploring reasons why NZ is so progressive (most usefully in comparison to other "new world" nations like the US and fellow British dominions like Australia and Canada). I never knew we were viewed as far back as the Victorian era as a kind of social laboratory - an experiment in nation building. And although there is A LOT to be very proud of it's only right to acknowledge that said nation building for the British empire as an exercise meant colonisation for the Maori as a reality. Now I raise this issue not to be a downer or to be woke but because I believe it's in the resolving the effects of colonisation that NZ can in real time put its values into practice. Sure it's not easy but since when has NZ ever let a challenge stop it? We talk of our famous ingenuity in regards to fixing a problem, to finding a solution and not outsourcing it but believing in ourselves to have what it takes to think outside the box and get it sorted. That's a brilliant trait. But I really believe the best example is yet to come. Any Kiwi worth their salt will agree that the huge gaps in equality in our society between Maori (and pasifika) and non-Maori is unacceptable for us as a nation. That it offends our sense of what is fair and just. This is relevant because you'll read that it's equality that kiwis value more than freedom. "Equality was the most important political value and the most compelling goal to strive for and protect". I think there's a lot of truth in this - even over 100 years since that was written about us. It's about doing what is best for the common good, the community, the whanau if you like rather than glorified self interest. At the end of the day all kiwis know in their hearts if we can't get it right, who can? I think I saw it most movingly in the way the nation acted as one "energy" in response to the mosque killings. When people handed in guns and ammunition they did so because they placed the collective safety of all of us as kiwis, as a nation, above so-called freedom to own a gun. Owning a gun is a privilege. An even greater privilege is having safety for the entire society and so it came to pass that the country de-armed without incident like it was one being - harmonious and in step. The world saw a nation respond as a community in mourning and pain - the country became a community in spirit, in essence and I believe a huge part of this is directly due to the influence of Maori values being more fully integral to our idea of what it means to be a New Zealander. Sorry for waffling. I hope that made sense. X www.bbc.com/travel/article/20200518-why-is-new-zealand-so-progressive
Luke - I love it! Thanks so much for taking the time to share. Yes the values of the Maori are the reason that NZ is what it is today. Thanks for watching.
As a fellow Kiwi I say BRAVO!! As you say NZ is not perfect, however we do strive to make our country as FAIR as possible. FAIR should be the Operative Word when organising a Society. FAIR democracy, FAIR sharing of country's resources, FAIR healthcare system, FAIR taxation system, FAIR everything, Agree? Great to see you trying to INFORM your country men who could make America a much better place if it was FAIRER, Right?
A Canadian, I taught in three US states (WV, CA, and PA) over 9 yrs and ran into this all the time. A lot of Americans believe this like they believe in gravity. And unfortunately tis conviction gives Americans a skewed view of reality. They have no idea how they stole California (H. D Thoreau wrote :On Civil Disobedience" while in jail for not paying his taxes because he didnt want to support this war. Paying for health care was not just annoying but more expensive that in Canada. You cant criticize the US (look at how often Kiwiamercans qualifies every remark). The greatest country in the world myth stops people from understanding or even visiting the rest of world allows people to not understand or want to understand the rest of the world. They so easiliy belive the rest of the world is jealous, or a potential enemy.
And Mexico stole its land from the Indians themselves. Stealing from thieves? Americans really do understand the rest of the world. We are if anything the least nationalistic people in the world.
I was listening to you fairly relaxed until you mentioned sending kids to school with a _bullet proof backpack_ ! I'm Australian, I've travelled widely in Indonesia, India, Pakistan, Malaysia and Thailand and twice visited Saudi Arabia plus lesser amounts of time in several other Asian countries and once to South Africa. Never once have I met anyone who thought of having a bullet proof anything. That was a shock.
And the nra thinks it's a GOOD thing. And if you know anything about school shootings, you know this is yet another way to make money. Scare parents into having a bullet proof backpack yet at the same time encourage people to buy more guns
You are right on with the healthcare - and most of the other stuff too. The part about freedom is so true. Makes me so sad. We are getting so many things wrong these days and it seems to be getting worse instead of better. Sigh.
Aw your videos are so refreshing. I’m a born and raised kiwi and have lived in North Carolina for the last 7 years. You have articulated everything I’ve felt for the last 7 years. Trying to pinpoint the differences and explain them to my friends here in the USA. It’s never something you’ll fully understand until you live in it! Thanks so much for helping educate Americans on what else the world has to offer.
@@tekanawateoti3952 don’t forget the elderly they too have suicides but because they are old they are ignored and because they do not photography well no poster child for elderly mental health
As a Kiwi who’s lived in the US for 20 years (in small towns and big cities) I would say Americans are very friendly but not inviting. They don’t easily let you in to their bubble and are very cautious of strangers. The healthcare thing is real because I would love to leave my job but can’t (I could but it would be a disadvantage to my current situation) because of the benefits I need for my family and vacation/holiday is a joke. Taking more than a week at a time is not normal at all. Unfortunately i also don’t see NZ as the same place I grew up in in the 80s-90s. Much more I could add but won’t write a novel.
That's kind a sad to live your life base on your employment benefits, isn't it? I get 5 weeks paid vacation leave every year plus long services leave and I have no worries about healthcare services. I can't imagine living in USA where all I do in life seems dictated by economic benefits of my employment. We should live to enjoy life, not work in order to live! We should have freedom to enjoy our life and not worries about healthcare needs.
@@pinayladyoz8044 yes it certainly was beneficial wage wise in aussie, being above the 26th parallel actually made a difference, the long service leave? i think thats something that wasnt suppose to last hahahahahaha a temporary problem they had with keeping people at the same place of employment for more than a year...back in the 70s...and havent been able to turn it off...
@@kathyscott2885 yup as majority of Americans don't get long vacation leave unlike with British, Australians, Kiwis, Germans, French, Canadians, Danes, Norwegian and more.....
America is an incredible country! Not happy with the bashing of it at all. Everything I’ve heard is negativity. What makes NZ so perfect? Not telling the other side.
"There are different ways of doing things they're all valuable...". The question is who benefits from the value. E.g. the military industrial complex or the big banks or the public. As an outsider - an Aussie - I think things like the healthcare system in the US are a huge problem - but the lie of freedom (the "corrections"-industrial complex) is the biggest issue. To me the US has one of the most pervasive and effective propaganda systems in the world -it is not totally state sponsored - it is (like a lot in the US) a public/private partnership. The US ideals "freedom" , neo-con capitalism, guns, hard work as the primary value, no real occupatinal health and safety are taught in schools (largely public) , pushed in the media (private) - the perfect private/public partnership - almost certainly the most effective priv/pub partnership. It's the most effective propaganda system in the world. People genuinely seem to believe the rubbish that is spouted. I don't think Soviet ("you pretend to pay me I pretend to work") or Chinese citizens ever really believed the workers paradise BS. But I think the people in the US'As prisons (highest rate per capita in the "land of the free" ) , the under employed people who are going to work sick in hyper competitive companies for little pay (or no actual pay in the case of some service jobs) etc etc **really believe** that US stle capitialism is a good thing. I suspect in many cases there's more than a bit of: "I want to be in the 1% that own 99% of the country. - if I can just work hard enough I'LL be the one screwing the employees and exploiting the customer base and it will all have been worth it. Get rich or die trying (literally in the poorer parts of the coiuntry)" And the thing that makes me really angry is the US tries actively to export that to countries like mine.
YEP - Target tried to "export" those ideals to Canada a few years ago, and they failed BIG TIME. Walmart seems to have done it more succesfully but they are required to pay the provincial MINIMUM wage, which for some provinces is now as high as $20 per hour!!
I don't understand why America think healthcare for everyone is wrong, I just don't get it. If you are sick or hurt it's so reassuring that I can just go to the hospital and get help and it won't cost me a thing. I think Americans need to hold their government accountable more, you pay taxes and the government should look after it's people e.g. some form of healthcare or assistance if you really need it. I feel really sorry for Americans.
The way i see it, if paying tax means that the kid down the road can get open heart surgery, or it pays for the water for a firetruck to put my neighbour’s house out…im happy to pay!
@@syreetarogers5227 yeah our taxes in NZ pays for all that, it covers roads, hospitals, health care e.g. children can go to the dr for free etc social programs, services like fire, police, we also pay rates here which is paid to local government e.g. in Auckland where I live we pay rates to Auckland council who look after rubbish removal, parks, local roads, etc.
schmeggynz yes! I live in wellington and seriously paying taxes means i can get a library book or call the police when i need them… as i said, happy to pay!
I know right. In Canada if a politician goes after universal healthcare they are out the door. I have family in the US that are broke because of their crappy system.
Australian here (New Zealand's cocky older brothers) I never realised just what American consumerism was like until I traveled, not to the US, but in Asia and Europe. I'd often get mistaken as an American by American tourists (probably as I was reading books and travel guides in English) and there'd so often be that immediate attempt at friendly communications (this is totally one thing I do love about Americans even if it can get a little over whelming at times) but then.. they'll notice I'm using a 8 year old laptop or a 7 year old digital camera, I'm like "my old laptop/camera owes me nothing and does everything I need it to do, and if it gets stolen it's literally no great loss" and "I've used this camera for years, I know how to use it instinctively I don't need to relearn a new system so I rarely miss a shot" but then usually get the "but it doesn't do this, or that" (ie laptop doesn't wifi stream video to another one of the companies more modern products like their brand new MacBook Pro (that cost me more than my entire holiday) , or the camera only has 16 MP instead of the 25, 30, 50 megapixels their camera does (that, with new lenses, cost three times more than my entire holiday cost)
How refreshing! An American putting America into perspective. I lived there for 6 years in the '70's and had a ball ... and also an education (travel is a great tutor). In retrospect? The indoctrination of youth through to adulthood is frightening, making freedom a relative concept. I needed a tooth removing and took out shares in the dentist, although he was very good. The narrowness of perspective of the regular citizen (I was 2 years in CT and 3 years in NY and a year in SF) ... is like tunnel vision. And although I was living in NY and working in Little Italy at the height of the mafia's power, it was all very exciting for a young fella! I went back to NY for a two week holiday several years ago and it has changed ... all for the worse. I'll live with my happy memories, but I'll never return.
As always, I love this video. You nailed it. This is exactly what living in the US is like and how our perceptions are skewed. I think the US has even gone as far as to make us nervous about traveling anywhere. And not just since COVID. There was always a sense that as an American overseas we are not going to be safe from mugging, pick pocketing, scams, being drugged, being kidnapped or even murdered. Somehow the media has made so many people I know feel like we are targets and we can’t leave our country safely. It’s sad. America has many great things but our fear monger based approach is not a good one. I’d love to find out more about how easy or hard it is to get jobs in NZ, make the move, and make enough money to afford to actually live in NZ. The cost of moving your stuff. Did you sell everything or leave it in storage? How hard is it to find work? How about starting a business? Could you open up a little shop easily or is it filled with a ton on government regulations? I’d love to hear more about how to actually pull off a move there
Nicole - That is a great point and you are totally right! They do scare you about leaving. I remember in college when we wanted to travel with friends all of the parents present horror stories. The reality is that the US is more dangerous then a lot of places. I would say it is hard to get into NZ if I am honest. I would plan on 1-2 years to work out all the visa issues unless you are young and just want to do a working holiday visa which is easier to get. I did sell everything and I recommend not bringing more than the 2 suitcases that you get to have on an international flight. Finding work will all depend on your skillset and starting a business is easy. I have just started 3 :) You get government support not regulation here. Hope that helps! I do offer consulting services if you want to talk directly too me :)
Great video. I thought you could have done a 6th lie about equality too. That whole thing about anyone in the US having the opportunity to become rich and powerful. That for me is one of the biggest lies America tells it's citizens. More than any other Western country in the world that is the least true. Also, like you were saying, I don't know why Capitalism has to equal criminality and inhumanity. I am sure that was not what this economic model was supposed to be about.
That is interesting - thanks for bringing that up! Yes it is hard to start a business or at least be successful with all the red tape so how is it the land of opportunity...hmmm
It's good to understand how brutal life in the US is for ordinary people. A bit like Alice in Through the Looking Glass: you have to run as fast as you can to just stay in one place. I've been a US expat (in Asia) pretty much since 1990. I might go back to visit, but I really don't understand how people can stand to live in the US. Keep up the good life!
Freedom is definitely defined differently outside the US. I don't see how you are free if you have to own a firearm to feel safe. Having grown up in a country in Civil War i have seen what type of "freedom" firearms deliver. Living in fear is not freedom. Having to go through metal detectors every day is not freedom. We have state sponsored health care in my country, its not perfect but its free. Which is a freedom for each citizen. Our stores don't have the insane variety that US stores have, but we also don't have to deal with the consumerism which bankrupts so many. Thank you for honesty. Hopefully your message reaches those that need to hear it. Stay Free
One of the most interesting observations, from a non-American about Americans, I've read, came from author Tim Winton in his novel 'Breathe': Eva (the American character) tells Bruce (an Australian character) what it was like growing up in Salt Lake City, Mormons and American ambition. "But the way Eva told it, her countrymen were restless, nomadic, clogging freeways and airports in their fevered search for action. She said they were driven by ambition in a way that no Australian could possibly understand. . . She made her own people sound vicious. Yet God was in everything - all the talk, all the music, even on their money. Ambition, she said. Aspiration and mortal anxiety."
Hi Tara, Thanks for your video. I have been to the US a few times, but only for holidays and my experience of being there is solely as a holiday visitor. I thought this commentary from you was very interesting. The part where you mention that you feel as though the American economy is not designed to encourage small business, but rather large multinational companies, gave me a better insight. As a Proud NZer, I think part of the reason why small business is encouraged here is because to some extent, we see ourselves as 'ideas people/creatives'. Therefore, if you're living in a Society where working within the System is more heavily encouraged, then a lot of that ability to nurture new business ideas and encourage self creativity would seem as though it is suppressed. This difference is Thinking is also alluded to in one of your other videos, where Chantelle and Yourself are doing a compare/contrast about the differences between North American and NZ Education systems. You both mentioned that children expressing their own thoughts and ideas and actively being encouraged to question things and interact with their Teachers was quite a pronounced contrast, to learning back in the US, from your experience.
Hi Tara, I have a friend from South Africa who’s known there as “colored” from a poorer area in a large city in South Africa, couldn’t believe life here without guns and gang life, didn’t know that it isn’t the usual way too live life, just was so used to it there, assumed that was simply the way life is everywhere. I guess we don’t know what other countries live like until we actually live there. The USA has so much going for it in so many ways, but like any country have things they can adopt from elsewhere for the better. Great list and hearing what your perceptions are having lived in both the US and NZ
Kia Ora, great clip. I think you are spot on in your assessments. I could write an essay. Instead IMO as a Pakeha (non-Maori) Kiwi I think it is the influence of Maori and Pacifica to be welcoming and work for the greater good of all that stands NZ apart even from our close "cousins" in Aus.
A small biz in the U.S. has to compete for qualified employees, the large companies can offer healthcare plans and also retirement plans (which are also more important in the U.S. because other countries are more generous with publicly funded retirement - what is called Social Security in the U.S.). A person might be willing to work for a startup even if they cannot quite pay the big salary right now, - and in all rich countries other than the U.S. having healthcare is a no brainer. The employees of big biz have it and self employed or staff of small companies have it as well. It levels the playing field in recruitment a bit. A person that has a chroncially ill family member often cannot afford to work for a small company (or to start their own company). Same with student loans. College graduates must pay them down, so those jobs must have higher wages to make that possible. So the costs for companies are higher ....
Lies America told me summary: 1) America is the greatest country in the world - This is funny, only people with too much ego goes around says that their country is the best lol. 2) Socialized Healthcare is bad - lol health/wellbeing is important; no health, no energy/motivation to make money 3) Hard/Good/Team-player - worker works for long Overtime hours at the expense of health is good; lol that's the worse. Like what @ kiwiamericans said, spending time with family and friends and having spare time to do things you love to do after work hours is better then aforementioned. 4) Consumerism - the constant buying or not missing sale makes you feel "great"; saving and repairing old stuffs is sentimental and savvy; wearing same clothes until it wears off is both savvy and eco-friendly! 5) The lie of freedom - safety/security, education/healthcare (expensive) Thanks for sharing your perspective! It's refreshing.
Very well said. BUT In your discussion on healthcare, you fail to point out that if 'the system' pays if you are sick then 'the system' is incentivised to ensure you keep well. Hence free mamograms for example and free dental and medical visits for youngsters. Once you ARE sick, regular checks to ensure you are doing as well as you can e.g. eyesight and feet checks for diabetics.
I lived in The USA mainly San Diego as a young Maori travelling the world , and I didn’t have insurance but I was lucky i guess,San Diego was my favourite place ,along with London and New York, Spain ,France etc, I met some people on a greyhound bus ,after leaving New York to LA we’re amazed at my travels around the world as most never traveled to far from home,it was an amazing journey I’m now 70yrs old and living the good life with partner of 27 years,in Beautiful Brisbane
Thank you for pointing out the problems in the USA I was watching CNN through the day and the last school shooting a teacher said there had been a school shooting every three days,the media does not report them unless they are large shootings it must be stressful to be a teacher or a student.
Colin - yes there are a lot more than are reported. Many times they are able to shut it down before it happens as well. It is very stressful....Thanks for watching!
It is! I have been teaching for 23 years, and I am dreading the upcoming school year. We had a threat on one of our last days (during a pep rally, and only three of us got the alert and went into lock-down. I managed not to freak the kids out, and we got an all-clear, but then our principal did not alert the rest of the staff. I went to every teacher on the field and made sure they knew to keep their eyes peeled for the kid who was off campus that threatened to show up and kill everyone). So, my confidence in leadership is at zero. I love my country, but want better for my son. I am considering starting the intensive process to get qualified to teach in NZ. I am afraid that I cannot devote enough time to do the paperwork since I teach an extra class to make ends meet, but I know we need to move by next summer. The stress is difficult, and we were told this year not to mention climate change in lessons since parents here thing it is controversial or fake. The curriculum is being limited, even when part of what I teach (per state guidelines) is critical thinking and evaluating sources. It is disheartening to say the least. Thanks for the video and for offering a fresh perspective.
It's difficult define freedom as it's an ingrained part of life here. I don't think of us as free or not free, just alive and thriving. I agree however with the point that it's part of freedom to collectively care for those around us, I suppose there's a freedom in being able to step away from something that has a toxic hold on you, e.g. a job you hate but stay at for the "benefits"
Freedom is a prIvatised "corrections" sysrtem that pays juvenile juddges to make sure "the beds are full" and has every incentive to make sure no-one is re-habilitated - rescidvitsts are of course the best customers - they stay longer more get sentenced more often. I believe there is some change in the wind, but to me one of the most ironic things that we hear Amercians say is "home of the free".
Interesting thoughts about freedom! We have often discussed the american idea about being so free, but I really can't see americans as free considering basic things like health care, education and raising a family. Being from Sweden, my entire education from first grade until a finished master of laws was free. The last couple of years at the university, I (along with all other students) had a student grant and the option of borrowing money for living costs with lower interest and better condititions than any other loan. That way, I could have started studying with no money in my pocket, and my only limit is my brains and my ambitions. That's educational freedom for me! Health care is free except from a small fee for visits. The first costs of medication is payed by yourself, but if/when the cost increases, it is step by step more covered by the government. Also: if I can't work because of health issues, the basics of my income loss is also covered. This is not connected to my employer, it's just connected to me working and paying my taxes to be covered. This safety net gives us a lot of freedom to choose the setup of our lives. With two kids, I have had the opportunity to take lots of time off from work to be with them. With our first kid, I had 8 months off work (spending 2 of them travelling New Zealand...) and with the second I also had 8 months of (spending 2 of them in Gran Canaria). Daycare for them costs about 230 USD/month so that both parents can work. (traditionally most important for women, as they are most likely to stay home without pay otherwise) When (you know it happens...) the kids are sick, we can always be away from work to take care of them, and much of the income loss is paid for. All of this creates enormous amounts of freedom for us to plan and live the life that we want. In that perspective, I really can't understand how I could be more free in the US...
Yes.I was in a Mall in Salem and there was a Giant American Flag in the centre that went up from the ground floor to the roof on the 2nd or 3rd floor. It had spotlights all around it lighting it up. I was stunned. I told my American BIL that you would never see that kind of ultra patriotism in a Kiwi Mall. It was waaay over the top i felt.
thanks for such an open and candid speech. I agree with you, especially the first point, I found the average American parochial and naïve regarding what happens outside the US. I do hope you will reach a wide audience in your home country, as your video is a real wake up call for some. :-)
People who refuse vaccination because it impinges on their freedom are putting themselves and others at risk. e.g. when two people work together and both are vaccinated, they have 250x the immunity that they would have if neither are vaccinated, whereas if only one person out of the two is vaxed, they would have only 10x the immunity.
Well done and balanced. Having been raised and live in at least four cultures in America and stayed in a number of other countries that American isn't the greatest and no one has to be the greatest. It better to value each other rather than ranking each other, and to be mindful of the greater good. People must not read Preamble to the US Constitution, We the people, for the common good, etc in our Constitution mean exactly a social responsibility to the common good, not just transactional and out for selfishly for yourself. I have been wanting for sometime to move to NZ or Europe for sometime getting tired of what is going on here. Make no mistake both sides of my family have been here this country some before it was any Europeans, and the rest in the early 1600. So my roots go deep and my direct relatives are well known in history, leaders of the revolution and signer of the Constitution, so I like the idea of We the people, for the common good and would rather live where people still value that instead of overly selfish transactional lives with constantly shopping and buying. I too have work for myself as my wife so nothing wrong with Capitalism in balance with the social good. Make no mistake every country has pros and cons, in different amounts and depths. Still my personal math says NZ, Canada, and some other countries make my personal 2+2=4 work for me. Thanks!
Wait, THAT’S why we’re still part of the commonwealth? I guess that makes sense after what I’ve heard about Brexit. After the flag thing a few years ago, I just assumed that the reason we didn’t leave the commonwealth is because it’d be a giant PITA. As for our respective countries’ ideas of freedom, look no further than the Laura Ingrahams who called us a dictatorship for having strict measures, even though we ended up with months-long stretches, even here in Auckland, where we could go about our lives without having to worry about that crappy virus at all.
There is indeed an element of DGAF, but she's right about our lack of individualist drive. Over in Australia they're a lot more individualistic and independently-minded, which is why their republicanism movement has always had more steam than ours. Their current plan is to have a referrendum as soon as 'Er Maj joins the angels, and I'd be shocked if it didn't pass. But here we're just not that offended by the idea of a foreign head of state when the likes of Dame Cindy work perfectly fine as a stand-in, and it also guarantees us some friends which we're always longing for in our lonely corner of the Pacific. The monarchy will lose a bit of popularity in New Zealand once Charles takes over, but I'm really hoping people will discover his better traits, like how he was the OG climate activist since before anyone cared, and probably isn't going to stop once he's king and has regal weight behind him.
As an American ex-pat with health issues I'd advise others who move here to get insurance as soon as you land. Unlike in the US, pre-existing medical conditions are held against you permanently and the same specialists who do both public and private service often prioritise private patients since it pays better. I waited for over a year for hip replacement and spent part of the time in a wheelchair when it was too painful to walk. I've been waiting two years for L-supraspinatus full-thickness repair and R-cmc joint repair, which must be spaced months apart since they are on opposite limbs. Been waiting for months for a spinal MRI in the context of herniation - I've had to stop working and my life has drastically diminished, which often makes me regret having ever moved here. There are shortages both in number and type of specialists and it be hard finding a good GP depending on where you live. I live in Wellington. On the other hand the MOH covers some home help and there are safety nets here that aren't much available in the US - though I'd much rather still have had these issues sorted and be enjoying full independence. Just want to make this point - that you are better off beginning with health insurance when you move to NZ. Nice VLOG!
Our public health system was deliberately under-resourced and underfunded between 1984 and 2017 by a series of neoliberal governments. They tried to introduce a private, for-profit, USA-style health system. At the same time they destroyed the tertiary education system that had met NZ's needs. This resulted in shortages of medical staff (and teachers). Since 2017 our Labour government has been trying to return to a totally funded, but sadly, 3 decades of deterioration can't be undone in 5 years. This is why you've had to wait too long for treatment.
As signatories of the charter of human rights, Australia and New Zealand believe that our governments must guard our basic human rights i.e.safety, housing, education, health, work, culture and religion. That is freedom. Freedom to be safe, happy, access to good all of life education, economic security through work, to live in peace and health, to practice your culture and religion without fear. Those are the values that underpin our sense of freedom.
.. and just to be clear to our Americans friends, we may only buy new shirts now and then, but it's got nothing to do with not being able to afford it, it's simply that we don't place a huge emphasis on, what was stated, 'consumerism'. 'Consumerism' is all about selling you stuff that you don't really need. Like selling ice to the Eskimos!! We think their are far more valuable things in life .. than new clothes. It's ALL about priorities. We put far more emphasis on life style and well being , rather than making $$$ .. which is why we have such things as Universal Healthcare.
Australian here. My wife and I watch Law & Order quite a bit and three episodes we saw recently (though they may have been years old) had storylines in which the root cause of the crime, be it murder, embezzlement, etc. was that someone couldn't pay their medical bills. Yes, I know it's a TV drama but the plots have to be believable and they must get their ideas from somewhere. An Australian police drama would never have such a storyline because it simply can't happen here. Work - you may want to watch ruclips.net/video/yhBkeAo2Hlg/видео.html
Do you realize that Law & Order is pure fiction? And no, the plots aren't terribly believable, nor are the supposed to be. Because, its just TV. And its supposed to be ENTERTAINMENT. Its not supposed to be a real reflection of the US. In general, the whole premise of the stories are preposterous and not reflective of real crimes. But, we are not supposed to care, as I learned in my media classes in college, its called "deliberate suspension of belief". Why else would people be so excited about a story of a giant lizard destroying Tokyo, since 1954. While sitting in my hotel room in Bali, I watched a number of Australian police dramas (that's the only English language TV they had was Australian). I have to say they were quite different from American TV dramas and frankly, a bit boring. But, I sensed they tried to stay truer to actual Australian society (Canadian cop shows can be like that too) I guess that's why you watch American TV dramas, but foreign audiences don't consume Australian media much. So, don't be ignorant and draw conclusions about the United States based what you saw on an American TV series. BTW,....these were these movies in America, about this guy named Crocodile Dundee and it was played by this guy from Australia... and you know....
@@clintfalk Yes, I know L & O is fiction but when you or any American sees an episode in which the root cause of the crime was that someone couldn't pay their medical bills, do you say "that could never happen here". No, you don't because you know it can and does happen. Not the crime part, but that people can and do go bankrupt over medical bills. The plots in L & O may be fiction, but that the US has the least affordable health care in the developed world is fact. Another show we sometimes watch which is not fiction is Dr Pimple Popper. In almost every episode is someone who has had a skin condition for 10 years or more and the reason they haven't had it seen to before this is usually the cost but if they appear on the show, treatment is free. That's how it is in the US but not in NZ or Australia but don't argue that with me, argue it with the lady in the video.
Tara, I have to agree with the healthcare, as I ended up being taken to hospital yesterday in an ambulance, had a relatively minor operation last night and was discharged this today, and my only cost was getting picked up this morning. It's also good to see you coming around more to the perspectives that we value in New Zealand. As for freedoms, this is changing negatively all around the world at the moment but I guess this is all relative to where you are.
I am a NZer. I have lived and worked in Europe , Asia and Africa. Never in the Americas. I was profoundly turned off the "USA as a concept" back in 1985 and again in 1991. When I realized that the US was simply a hegemonist and had no respect for anyone elses democracy at all. NZ , a small, unthreatening country, with at least as democratic system as the US , voted to have a non nuclear policy. The rich and powerful in the US went apoplectic about this democratic decision and turned on us just like the school yard bully. The french nuclear tests in the Pacific were , and still are , regarded in NZ as profoundly immoral. Our non nuclear stance was perfectly reasonable and justfiable then as it is now. We got chucked out of ANZUS , just because we voted! WTF? From then on I have found that US propoganda around freedom means "Freedom to do ONLY what the rich and powerful in Washington will allow". The US hypocracy is at least as bad as that of the Russian or Chinese .... The US , as a hegemon, have no hestitation to bully counties that are democracies which hold zero threat to the US. Why? More recently we saw Trump in Europe exhibiting the same hegemonistic behavior ..... the look on Merkles face !! It was appalling behavior amongst those who know they are free and democratic and do not need or appeciate another bully next door. Only to find that their "ally" , the US was just as bullying as Russia. All this also ignores the idea the "freedom" in the US means freedom of the powerful to exploit the "commons" or "weaker more peaceful peoples" with zero consequences. There seems to be no guilt for the exploitation and repression of other people within the US itself. The clearing of the indians from the west , the slavery .... ..... and now the US wants to take the high moral high ground on China. WTF? When will there be a Treat of Waitangi for the First Nations and a Justice and Reconcilation Commission for black americans? The US ( and others got very rich by polluting the atmosphere ( the commons ) by far far more than their fair share ..... and are showing ZERO signs of taking responsibility for what is effectively theft from other people in the world. Then the US Supreme Court says that a Corporation have the same rights as natural persons. WTF? When was the last time a corporation went to jail? so the US now has a three level democracy top of course are Corporations , then "normal natural persons" , then , at the bottom millions of the disenfrachised by gerimandering and identification system manipulation that this wonderfull "Constitution" makes not attempt to stop. WTF? In summary ZERO respect for the whole US social experiment since the war ...... it has been a disaster for millions and shows no sign of stopping. We DO NOT want it repeated here.
Sorry Charlie. You may hate us, but that doesn't hide how full of beans you are. It was us who won the wars of the 20th Century, including the Cold War, and your existence is based on our work. You couldn't make it without us, no matter how you bluster otherwise.
In Australia we tend to wear clothes out...value reusing old stuff...there is a thriving neighbourhood swap system in most areas I have lived...and although we certainly buy new stuff ..there is not so much pressure to have the very latest all the time...its a good thing
I think it's brave you posting this topic today and I think it's really commendable and I appreciate you. It is beyond my imaginings to think that our children in NZ would ever need active shooting training, kevlar bag packs and walk through metal detectors at school. That's not freedom, that's like living in a violent, facist 3rd world country. The USA level of consumerism isn't freedom, it's what keeps debt collection agencies in business and makes them slaves to interest rates on loans and credit cards. Trying to keep up with the Joneses and stressing out about what OTHER people think of them. They'd be better off thinking, "What do I think of myself, how do I see my own value?". Do you know what creates debt??? FEAR. America is a nation of fearful people. To be fair they do make for a big target so I can understand them wanting to establish a strong military presence. But at the tune of $721.5 billion dollars a year for the Dept of Defense budget??? Some of that money shared out would lessen the cost of health care and education for her citizens. Allow them to think about taking all the time off they're entitled to and enjoy a better quality of life. At the end of the day your children won't thank you for working 80 hours a week (and how you're too tired to spend time with them). They'll thank you for coming to their school play, catching a game that they're playing in. And reminisce with you about that day you spent with them out at the lake/harbour when "you caught a fish THIS BIG". Those memories... that's what freedom looks like.
The reason we spend so much money on defense is because we have to defend the entire world, not just ourselves. What were we doing in Yugoslavia, anyway? Because the Europeans couldn't do the job themselves.
I commend you for your bravery and honesty. It must be hard to say these things out loud given how proudly most Americans abide by their country. Well done!
Very brave of her to say not so nice things from the country she came from. Of couse these are only her opinions. How would you feel if she would say not so nice things about New Zealand? You welcome her into your country with open arms, then she proceeds to spew vial, nasty, hurtful things about New Zealand. Would that hurt your feeling?
Very well said but even though you spoke respectfully and tried to educate, as you do, I have a feeling that you are going to get dragged through the mud by your kin and get labelled, along with other expats who have said the same, as unpatriotic Americans trash talking your country. It comes with the territory. That kind of indoctrination, much to our amusement here in Africa, runs deep in American society. The question you will inevitably be asked is this: "If it is so great over there why are they rushing to come over here?" I wish you had explained that in advance as well.
I'm in Canberra, Australia. People will talk about work in social situations (I mean, most people move to this city because of work) but work doesn't dominate most people's lives. I prefer to talk about anything else to be honest. I don't think about work when I'm not at work.
Great video I have always thought that American society was enslaved by capitalism and greed.The war of independence was more about tax avoidance to the crown then freedom from oppression.
An American friend once told me the USA was the freest place in the world. Then she told me she carried a gun in her hand bag to protect herself. I realised then we had very different definitions of the word 'freedom'.
Well there it is… totally agree! Thanks for watching!
Power doesn't = Freedom. The misguided freedom enjoyed by those who have power & the might is right to cause pain to those who are peaceful & powerless in comparison. - this topic could be a whole video in itself.
Right. ! Money and power of a few does not = freedom for the citizenry. Needing guns to protect yourself is not an indicator of freedom.
I recently watched an American video discussing the best guns for home defense. Just how alien this is to people in other countries is simply unknown to lots of Americans. It's horrible .
Yep, here in the US we have freedumb while the actual great countries enjoy freedom, go figure.
I'm a Kiwi, I live in Australia for the last 40 years. I have worked for Americans, been close friends with many Americans, and now I broadcast to radio stations in the USA. I think i know quite a lot about both the USA and New Zealand. I would endorse everything you have said in this video. Occasionally I've been stupid enough to try to get Americans to see that maybe other places (e.g. New Zealand) do some things better than the US. It's always been a mistake to try that. Americans, as a rule, have been so strongly indoctrinated that the USA is the greatest country in the world that they just cannot accept that anyone else could do anything better than them. I've had professional differences in my career trying to get my American boss to accept that the technology I'm using is about a decade ahead of what they're using in the USA. I have always admired the USA, but i am dismayed in the last few years at how ignorance has been accepted as an advantage in the USA. That Americans will accept the corruption and dishonesty of their politicians when they should be kicking them in the .. um .. shins - HARD.
Mike - this is really well said (especially about the politicians!). You would have a great perspective as well on this subject. It is hard for Americans to see another perspective.
@@Kiwiamericans I don’t mean my remarks to be a criticism of Americans. I suspect it’s a natural consequence of being a dominant power. I think the British were much the same in the 19th century and the Roman’s too probably. Note how the British said that James Cook “discovered” NZ when the Dutch and the French had already been there, and the Māoris too for that matter So what mattered to the British was that Cook was the first person that mattered to visit NZ all the others didn’t count.
@@afpwebworks Yep, Cook "discovered" Australia too, despite the locals being here for the past 60,000+ years. The arrogance of power. I'm an Aussie and have been back & forward a lot to the USA (family, friends & business) over the past 40 odd years. I used to love the USA at first but am now equally appalled/disgusted as to the American general descent into violence, stupidity & corruption. I term it the "Me, me, me" MOB as against the AUS/NZ "We, we, we" SOCIETY.
@@andytaus1939 Not to mention the Dutch on the West Coast, Abel Tasman -found Tasmania is 1602...
What you talking about? The Dutch did first discovered these islands yes (Aus and NZ) but they then never claimed or settled there. James Cook came along and confirmed it, then tried to settle them. The Dutch didnt. Big difference.
Was watching an interview with an American professor talking about drug prices. After a while I noticed that rathér rather than call people " Patients" requiring a certain drug he called them "The consumer". I thought that summed up the American health care system perfectly.
Wow! So good
At one hospital I worked at, we were encouraged to call the patients “clients.”
@@lisaspikes4291 that is creeping in here in OZ in some places...i resist it in my professional role as much as I can...
Hi ☺️ I'm Australian and I honestly hope this doesn't sound patronising, because I mean this earnestly, but hearing what you had to say on this video really really warmed my heart. It's common as an English speaker to consume lots of US media and to interact with Americans online - and on some levels I always feel they're slightly not getting "stuff" - YOU truly have managed to reprogram yourself from the US brainwashing and you are speaking my language. As in - when I speak to many Americans about healthcare or gun violence it's like they're so so blinkered it's like they just don't hear me and I've often been called a communist etc - which I'm not. Or they assume I have a political agenda - I don't.
Sorry my comment is a little incoherent, I'm struggling to find the right words - but honestly I wish you could take what you have learnt and help other American people understand what you beautifully demonstrate you now understand so well. I really feel American people have been led to a place that scares me and I honestly wish America could culturally open up to some improvements that would make their country much better for people.
I understand you perfectly! Thanks for sharing and for your encouragement
Aye, well said cuzzy bro.
@@Kiwiamericans I agree.
Agree
And you make perfect sense
In many ways US people seem very similar to us yet the culture of using violence as the first option is deeply ingrained. When some people in the US heard about the measures adopted in Australia to limit the spread of COVID and reduce its death rate, measures they disagreed with, they were saying the US should invade Australia. What! The state governments adopting those measures had huge popular approval - in my state 82% - which is the democracy US citizens say they support. And the measures worked. Restrictions have been largely withdrawn now that we have over 93% vaccinated but our death rate is still a tiny fraction of the rate they are enduring in the US.
As a Kiwi living in Aus with a heap of American friends, this video makes me super happy. Thanks for sharing your perspective. It’s always refreshing to see an American willing to see things through a different lens.
NZ isn’t perfect, but we are pretty proud of our little country when it comes to quality of life.
Mark - I am so glad you enjoyed and thanks for the lovely comments :)
i promote surf n beach holidays,
@@Kiwiamericans my only childhood regret is not learning to surf, n maybe playing a guitar, just saying,
Greg from Auckland,
Yeah ! But just whisper that Mike………….we don’t want to be over-run by bigger than,better than people,do we?
Sorry Mark…….I got your name wrong.
I have to say as a kiwi who was born sick and my medical needs are growing I really feel blessed that most of my care is paid for. I also have private medical insurance which at this point is $70 a week and I essentially break even with what I claim back. If I was born in America I would be dead because the medication I need would cost over $1000 American dollars a week. I belong to an international support group for one of my illnesses online and I've lost many American friends in the group simply because they couldn't afford the medication needed to stay alive. It's something I struggle to understand.
And your paranoia can be treated too!
@@martinkent333 I don't need to hear your inane comments. You are blocked.
On the health care system, we are happy to have to pay a little more tax than Americans do to give us peace of mind that if anything happens to us and we need medical care, we can simply walk out of the hospital with the same amount of money in the bank as the moment we walked in or were admitted. We think its totally crazy, insane, nuts that just because you have an accident you can end up losing your house, your lifestyle and sometimes end up being homeless. We believe the American health care system is totally and completely insane beyond belief.
American paranoia is treatable!
100s of thousands of ameriKans go bankrupt each year due to heath care. Only country on earth.
Need national healthcare, socialized medicine for that! 😀@@martinkent333 😀
There are several freedom indexes:
Economical freedom: New Zealand rank 2 - United States rank 20
Human freedom: New Zealand rank 1 - United States rank 17
Press freedom: New Zealand rank 8 - United States rank 44
Gerd - this is very interesting - especially the different types. Thanks for sharing.
@@351clevelandmodifiedmotor4 not going to watch your vid
But lived in many 3rd world countries
New Zealand has a democracy
I camp on beaches
Argue with police
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@@351clevelandmodifiedmotor4 Our PM trying to keep people healthy, and minimise the number of people who die of covid-19, doesn't make New Zealand a dictatorship; it makes New Zealand safer for everyone.
@@351clevelandmodifiedmotor4 I have lived in actual dictatorships and I tell you now that you have no idea what you are talking about.
@@351clevelandmodifiedmotor4 No one is forcing you to do anything.You are free not to mask or not to take the vaccine. There are consequences for not doing so however. NZ is not a dictatorship I've seen dictatorships close up and it is obvious that you haven't.
Great video! I have been teaching for 23 years, and I am dreading the upcoming school year. We had a threat on one of our last days (during a pep rally), and only three of us got the alert and went into lock-down. I managed not to freak the kids out, and we got an all-clear, but then our principal did not alert the rest of the staff. My teammates and I went to every teacher on the field and made sure they knew to keep their eyes peeled for the kid who was off campus that threatened to show up and kill everyone. The SRO (the campus officer) said it was okay because the kid was at home. No more details after that. So, my confidence in leadership is at zero.
I love my country, but want better for my son. I am considering starting the intensive process to get qualified to teach in NZ. I am afraid that I cannot devote enough time to do the paperwork since I teach an extra class to make ends meet, but I know we need to move by next summer. The stress is difficult, and we were told this year not to mention climate change in lessons since parents here thing it is controversial or fake. The curriculum is being limited, even when part of what I teach (per state guidelines) is critical thinking and evaluating sources. It is disheartening to say the least, and it is extremely stressful.
Thanks so much for the video and for offering a fresh perspective.
Come on over ❤️❤️
Scientists thought the Piltdown Man was real too. Nuff said.
I moved to New Zealand 40 years ago from Canada and I agree that this is the best country (that I've seen anyway). The government cares about its citizens, the cops don't even carry guns, it's the 1st country to give women the vote, prostitution is legal, so is distilling alcohol, we never start wars (partly because we'd lose) and the weather is perfect.
Love it - totally agree Warren :)
chur bro ,,,,lol
Hi mate. I'm an ex-pat Canadian too - been here 49 years since December 1973. Been around the world nearly 5 times on business and pleasure - haven't found a city I'd rather live in than Christchurch, and I've been to a LOT of cities! As for the perfect weather - all I can say is that it beats the Hell out of weather in ANY part of Canada, but perfect?? Yeah NAH! Hell, the GOLF season here goes through the autumn, winter and spring - try THAT in Canada. Me too, mate - I ain't leavin'!! NZ citizen since 1978.
@@allansbullet How cool. Maybe we'll meet one day, hope so. Waiheke is our home now.
@@warren52nz After THIS week you're saying the weather's perfect?? I'm surprised Waiheke's still above sea level!! At least it's hot and dry down here!
Well done Tara, thoroughly enjoyed today's session. I watch a lot of what's happening in the USA at present and I'm truly shocked by the amount of violence and corruption going on in front of their very eyes. A good friend of mine did his law degree at UCLA a few years back now, he the experience he had there but was so glad to come home. He said there was so much stress on a daily for him, not only with school, but the constant violence happening around the city. I could never imagine having to see kids go through shooter training, that's definitely not freedom. Your family must feel so relaxed living here and I understand why.
Doug - I am glad you liked it! Thanks for watching :)
@@351clevelandmodifiedmotor4 dictator? Sure thing buddy 😂
@@351clevelandmodifiedmotor4 I prefer puppet shows by the professionals ruclips.net/video/yPlhRUF2aXA/видео.html
Imagine living next door to America, 1/2 of your neighbours are sane and kind - the other half are like delusional children.
I’ve visited the US from NZ for more then twenty years and America has changed to my mind and not for the better. The health regime enslaves employees to the job because that’s what your system wants. For nation all about freedom America is very good at denying options and mobility to its citizens. You do good job, keep it up.
The Queen's representive in NZ , the Governor General, has an titular role and really only exercises their responsibilities on the advice of our Government. Hence NZ is self governing and we didn't need to "throw the British out" to achieve that. Found your comments on freedom very interesting. As a New Zealander looking in, the US seems one of the least free countries in the developed world.
Thanks for watching!
Because it is. Only developed country that doesn’t guarantee PTO.
Agree with Blah Blah we don't see ourselves as being under the Queen. It doesn't really feature in everyday life. Alot of Kiwis want to become a republic but then the issue is what would we replace that with and the way things are is kind of fine anyway. Getting rid of the Crown would also create issues with The Treaty of Waitangi too because that was an "agreement" between Maori and the Crown so not sure what that would do to the status of that "agreement."
The same is true for Canada as well.
@@francoiselafferty-hancock5112 Probebly for good 👍 to be a own country not understand why worship a queen in another part of earth 🤔
Say UK are not in best place anymore are crap and cracks apart Brexit destroy UK forever and be part of sinking ship are go to be expensive for all around 🤔
Thank you for this and for all of your videos. As an American, I can totally confirm every point you make. American culture is devouring it's own people and it's not healthy for the body or mind. I'll be happy to be joining you in New Zealand in the next year. Or as soon as it's open to travel. I will be a proud Kiwi!
Ken - that is awesome. Please let me know how I can help you in your transition to NZ!!!
You’ll be welcome Ken.
Being a Kiwi is not just a nationality, it’s a state of mind.
@@rwags6848 amen!
Nau mai haere mai, we have plenty of room 4 you
We are opening the boarders by April 2022 :)
Having had two professional families from the US as neighbours, I've experienced a lot of what you were talking about. I adored them but their work/life balance actually stressed us out as we tried to help them. One woman was a specialist and lived in fear of litigation which would probably be a whole other video. I also watched another video last night on RUclips highlighting the disparity in wages in the US, and the manipulation of working hours per week to keep basic workers below the 40 hour limit for providing permanent job benefits. I love Americans, but we can all benefit from seeing how things work elsewhere.
That is interesting Shelia - American neighbours!
Man, I was already stoked to try to make the move from the US to New Zealand, and every single point here resonated with me. EVERY ONE! Thank you so much for this, and hello from Wisconsin (Madison).
Chris.. hello to you in Madison!!
I hope you move here, you will be very welcome!!
I used to work for a compay that was owned in the US, we had a visit from some of the top guys from America once, and they couldn't understand why the workers here in NZ worked to live instead of live to work, like they expected in the states.
Oh really? They will probably never understand :)
You made me laugh when you were making reference to the Social Healthcare we have here. It is so true. A couple of years ago I fainted at a Train Station. I don't remember fainting just waking up 5 hours later in a bed at the Emergency Department at Auckland Hospital. Doctor came and talked with. They had all my details (don't how they got them) and said she wanted me to stay overnight to keep an eye on me. I ask for some food cause I was hungry as. Then went to sleep. Wokeup to breakfast being served. About half an hour later the day doctor came and checked me out. Handing me a prescription he then discharged me saying if i felt any further dizziness to call ambulance. I said thank you so much. Put my shoes on and left heading for Hospital Pharmacy. I was given two lots of meds. Now. Here's why i laughed.Until now, I had never thought about the cost of it all. I suppose not many, if any, actually would. It is reassuring to know if need to go to the doctors and more so the hospital. You've got absolutelynothing to worty about. You just go and get yourself better. Thanks for the video today. Helped me understand America's more. In a good way 👍 Enjoy your channel heaps 😊
Great story! Thanks for sharing...
I've needed an epidural for pain for over a year but since I'm not working, I can't pay my medical balance and therefore can't treat my leg and neck
THAT'S the usa (i won't say "America" because America isn't solely the USA)
@@jennyfab312 From the perspective of another western country, we think that is simply nuts. Not just a New Zealand perspective, but Australia, UK, Canada, Western Europe. I'm sure, if you talked with anyone of us you'd find we just can't understand why you didn't get medical care. It doesn't make any sense to us. What wealthy government treats its own people that way? How can you work if you need an epidural? And that's a simple thing to get done. And if you are not working then you are not paying taxes. So it makes zero sense even on an economic level.
In New Zealand and Australia we don't have private health insurance so that we can get medical care. If we get private health insurance, it is so that we can skip the queue in the public system and be treated faster. So if I was out of work I might have to wait to see a specialist but the service would be free.
That's very sad, Jennifer. I think the health care system in the US is deliberately designed to entrap its people so that they stay at their jobs in order to afford it. That's how the rich get away with not having to pay better wages because workers aren't able to leave freely.
"Hungry as" what?
I am an Aussie. I always find it strange when people get worried about wearing the same special occassion outfit more than once.
kiwis are the same ,, I think it comes down to early learnings , and wearing a uniform at most schools,, getting used to being in the same clothes all school week ,, carries over to not needing to find an outfit for tomorrow , just wear what was good for yesterday , its still good today and just fine for tomorrow
Definitely agree on the US screaming freedom but it sure doesn't look like it. When you're trapped in a job because of health care where's your freedom.
Totally agree - thanks for watching!
I am an old man, flew as a professional pilot (both military and civil) for 41 years, went to the USA many times and all over the world and now live in New Zealand . That was one of the best RUclips clips I have ever seen, well done. Get more like minded Americans with their families over here. They are welcome and we need them.
Awe thanks! I appreciate the feedback
Yes, everyone is welcome. However NZ does not "need" unchecked population growth. Or the destruction of natural resources required to enable it.
Example: USA holds 95% of NZ (Oceania) petroleum and mineral leases for the next 40 years. USA military & NASA is operating out of Mahia Penninsula. The world arms expo was held in NZ. Kiwisaver invests in Lockheed Martin. Monsanto is a prime example of moving dirty practices off shore to other places. I could list many many more. Wake up, this eutopian view is a fallacy.
I think it's amazing that in New Zealand they have more of a community-centered culture as opposed to what we have here in the US, which is more individual-centered.
brother we don't have the diversity of the us, which makes us a bit defensive and uptight, ive never been to the us. but i believe i have met my fair share of americans and the ones i've met have been pretty normal & i find american females extremely cool and attractive. Also brother i've always found it was the so called kiwi's who always seem to be the most hung up on countries of origin call it pride if you like, i think we need to prove our little pond is just as significant as your big pond. Your correct when you do find the right community it is pretty amazing and im sure our cultures won't differ that much as really it's just hospitality good manners and generosity. i believe you get more in the us then Aotearoa but i'm happy in my slice of Aotearoa.
Your thoughts are so heartfelt, it made me appreciative of being a New Zealander. So please know this, Welcome to NZ as I feel that your family will enrich us all 🇳🇿❤️
Great video! I am a Catalan, from Barcelona, but I lived in the US for five years in my youth (from the time I was 17 until I was 22). I love the States, and I consider them my second home. This being said, I fully agree with everything said in this video. In fact, it reminds me of what I used to tell my American friends when I lived there (but they found it difficult to believe me). Now, I have sent my oldest son to study in New Zealand, rather than the US, mainly because of a security issue.
As a Kiwi I always found it weird when being abroad with Brits, Canadians Aussies and all other manner of free people to hear Americans constantly say how free they are. All the other counties look at each other a say they know we're all free here right? I've never felt the need to tell others how free I am, I just am.
Thanks for watching!
Exactly.
True. But also changing....
Actually, nobody who lives in a society is free. Personal freedom ceases as soon as one comes in contact with another person. We live in a society because there are lots of advantages over living alone. Each of us can specialise using particular skills, while living alone means we alk have to be farmers and soldiers. In order to live in a society we have to give up some of our freedoms, such as driving on the wrong side of the road.
We are no more 'free' than Americans. Try going to the Devonport Naval Base: you can't just wander in there as you might wish as you may not be able to go into an American Naval Base. You will be stopped with a capital S in both countries. You are not Free to do what you want. If it is against the law you have to face the consequences in both countries. I don't think there is much difference other than there is a promotion for the use of guns and not so much in NZ altho possibly in the use of hunting. I am NZer and have been to the USA and found it very similar with regard to housing etc and their acceptance of our strange ways. Interesting indeed. 😮😮😮
I know New Zealand isn't perfect but America sounds absolutely dreadful I actually feel sorry for them.
Andrew - thanks for watching.
Andrew Shanaghan: I'm a Kiwi and there is plenty of great stuff about America in my opinion! The U.S was one of the first places I travelled to as a kid and I found the people to be friendly and engaging. I loved Seattle, San Francisco and California and would love to go back and see more of the U.S. Sure there's some bad stuff going on, but no need to write off the whole country ❤
@@haleyrichardson8818 I said it sounds dreadful I don't see how thats writing the whole country off .....when you read something try to understand the words as you do. I also have spent time in California Hawaii Las Vegas and New York so I know I t can be a wonderful country if your not into racial equality woman's and LGBT rights in fact if your a white middle aged man with a bit of money like me it's awesome.....but then I'm not likely to be confused with a unarmed black man trying cast a vote or a girl that's been raped by someone and can't get an abortion or the grieving parents of a child that's been shot at school because active shooter training doesn't mean you can out run bullets...I'm sure their experience is vastly different than yours or mine. ❤
There are many nice and pleasant little towns scattered all over America. It's still a good place to live in many areas. Housing is about a 1/3rd the cost of NZ and the average American is a friendly, helpful person (once you get out of the big cities).
@@andrewshanaghan6797 Calm down, no need to get abusive.
This was very good video. I am Australian and most of your comments apply to Aust. as well. I have been following your channel for a while now and you have opened my eyes to what it is really like in the US. I have never travelled there (only been to Europe and UK) and I only saw the US thru the eyes of TV and movies. I obviously applied my life experience filter to what I saw on the screen and life looked pretty good. But I have now been watching US entertainment content with a new perspective based on information I have learned from your channel and others and have become even more grateful I wasn't born there.
I know all countries portray their best versions of themselves in their media and as outsiders we rarely see the "real" country unless we live there so it is important work you are doing to show others there are other options to the way things can be done.
Keep it up, I hope your channel continues to grow.
Tania - so glad this helps! Of course it is just my perspective but definately closer to reality then what you see on TV.
You gotta check out the cop watchers San Joaquin, Laura Shark, Tom Zebra, Jodi Cat, We The People University etc etc, you get the ugly perspective from the public trying hold cops accountable, it's atrocious. Laura Shark is the cop watcher who filmed 18yr old Christopher Bailey after he'd been bashed to a pulp by the LASD tyrants.
That's like learning about British culture from watching "Benny Hill".
Geez that consumerism thing does sound stressful. These days if I find shorts or something I really like, I'll buy a couple of pairs - then the whole shorts situation is sorted for ages. Awesome.
I found a jumper I thought I would like and bought it, wore it for a couple of winters then accidentally got paint on it when painting a house, so I went back to the shop where I got it and found they don't sell it anymore, that was really annoying, now my wife complains when I wear it because it has paint stains on it, but it's comfortable and warm.
So, you were never actually a consumer of shorts, and nobody marketed them to you?
Very well explained Tara....I am an Aussie and we are very much the same as NZ...I have been many times to the USA. While I have always had a great time there as a tourist.. You can see that below the surface there ate many problems like you have noted. We were also shocked at how many homeless people are in the States....In 1982 our first visit we thought it was great we had travelled forward 20 years...but our next visit in the early 2000's the change was enormous...And don't get me started on The gun situation... We are very scared now after the Vegas shootings that we will probably NEVER go back..before this shooting it seemed to only be schools.. So we weren't that concerned... And the racial tension is horrendous .I certainly feel for black/brown people.. I thought the sixties sorted out the civil rights for them.,...after George Floyd the world was shocked.... Have you guys been to Australia yet.... Keep up the great channel cheers x
Karenne - thanks for sharing your thoughts! Yes the US has a lot of big issues to deal with. I have been to Aussie - Melbourne, Sydney and Gold coast!
We went over in 2019 and while in our hotel in Vegas, I made the mistake of turning the news on. Just an hour before the news updated, someone had broken into a hotel room and killed a husband and wife point blank. It was scary! It was also terrifying the amount of people in the south that casually carried guns. Also, the amount of homeless people is so sad. San Francisco and New York were the worst. People smoking crack in subways, people with clear disabilities. So sad. It was an amazing experience and we loved our trip so much, met so many amazing people and made some friends.. but I could definitely do without the damn tipping! And not having eftpos! AND not having the prices of products include GST lol.
@@renepatolo2687 oh wow that is scary!! Thanks for watching
George Floyd was a thug who the world is better off without. As for black/brown people, it is they who most often kill each other, and have very little to fear from other places. You claim to have visited the USA but you obviously learned nothing.
Hi Kara, you are spot on. I lived for years in Australia, and everything you said also applies to my experience in Australia. I'll never forgot my oncologist telling me once I was out of my mind moving back to the states as a recent cancer survivor. Enjoy life Downunder!
Thanks for watching Rick!
I’m an American that’s lived here since 1997 with my kiwi husband, and the longer that I have lived here, and have raised my children here, I realise just how lucky i am to live in such a great place. I enjoy your videos so much! When I first moved to NZ is was an adjustment for me, and my family wasn’t over the moon about me moving so far away, but I can’t ever complain about the lifestyle that I’ve been lucky enough to experience here. Yes holiday time, family time and healthcare is valued more here, and I love that!, besides the fact that it is just so beautiful! Like you said, there is no place in the world that is perfect, but there are always things that different countries can learn from each other. ❤
Totally agree! Amazon place to live... thanks for watching
A really interesting piece Tara - I have often wondered about "the greatest country in the world" claims, given health care, gun ownership & subsequent violence, low minimum wage, few paid holidays, & so on. Glad you've broken out of the mould. Sure, every country has its strengths & weaknesses, but Americans could learn a lot about how other countries work - won't happen, but it would be useful. I'm in Australia, & although Oz is pretty good, I think the Kiwis kick goals way above us - especially around racism. Thanks.
The only thing unique about the USA is that we're open and honest about our problems, unlike other countries.
As a Kiwi who visited the US in the late 70's, we New Zealanders have changed an extreme amount since I was born,1948, from a very closed society, mainly British Patriarchal to a
much more open society. I grew up in a mainly working class white society with very few Polynesians, Maori's, Samoan's around, there was some racial problems, that came to the fore later
but we as a society have worked hard at inclusion for all. Those New Zealanders that have not travelled (not many, for we like to look) sometimes may seem insular ,but the
most are just curious about the outside world, we question what and where our country is in the scheme of things, i.e, the anti-nuclear stance, the adoption of green policies,
more weight to the Treaty of Waitangi (a Treaty with the native Maori peoples), social policies which were pioneered, votes for women, pensions, health care, etc, some by the
socialist Labour Governments and continued by the National Party (Conservative), we may not give much respect to our politicians, they have to work hard for a second term
in office, and were punished by having a change from a cosy two party system, government and opposition, to a Proportional representational system where, you have electoral seats,
and proportional seats, off which the latter are by the numbers of votes that the smaller parties rely on to enter Parliament ( they have to gain 5% of the vote and are allocated
seats on what that proportion is), in all a very different society from that of the U.S. and of the United Kingdom, yes the Queen is the nominal head of the Nation, but really
it is just nominal, we seem pretty passive in nature, we don't complain loudly but we do bite when poked. I hope that this gives those that are willing to try something
different, a better idea of who we are, comes to visit and likes it and stays, we need a good Mexican restaurant\ fast food chain.
I think the only Americans immigrating to other countries are the ones that has been outside the US and seen what's its like, "to be on the other side of the fence".
I really feel for the US citizens, who has not had the opportunity to travel and to know what the world has offer. The real freedom, healthcare, politics, employee welfare, safety, crime, the list goes on.
Awesome vid Tara.
Thanks for watching Sam!
and very few nutjobs and predators with guns...
I feel sorry for people who "feel for the US citizens". That's just silly. I travel mostly in the developing world and I've see people who don't have near the comforts, opportunities and security that people in the developing world take for granted., whether it be in the US or New Zealand or Scandinavia. Most Americans have the ability to travel abroad and if they don't, its their choice. I don't see why that should cause anyone any grief. I just wish they'd quit giving me funny looks when I tell them the places I visited.
@@clintfalk How much of the world can you see when you get two weeks per year leave and taking it all at once is frowned upon?
In the primaries Senator Sanders won 70 % of the vote of the expats in the Democratic primaries. Universal healthcare was one of his major campaign issues.
Thank you for making this video this is awesome. Healthcare has stressed me and my wife so much you can’t think and get paralyzed. As an American I see why Americans leave America!
I am so sorry for this - I totally understand how stressful it is.
@@Kiwiamericans given the pandemic will it be easier for us to move to New Zealand?
Hi I am an American and for the first time have been pondering making a move to another country. I agree with you so much about the perverse, misguided emphasis on "freedom" in America and the undervaluing of education and worship of selfishness and money. I think after 2016 it became apparent that there are whole swaths of America that are more interested in trying to create a White Christian ethno nationalist state than promoting a thriving, peaceful multicultural democracy. It has broken my heart. Anyway, I've been thinking of NZ because it just seems that culturally it's more...decent. Decency and respect and community are things that I value more and more.
Awesome! Don’t hesitate to reach out to me for help!
Multi culturalism is a satanic agenda.... think about it and do research... it doesn't work in any way. Usa was always a white Christian nation.
You will be very welcome but leave the misogynistic, uba religious l, gun toting Americans behind. We love other cultures but they need to be accepting of everyone😄
Every nation has bigotry and racism. The US is merely open and honest about it.
Thank you for this video. As an American, I am grateful that I am able to see people share messages like this to me and get perspective from people that have expatriated.
Awesome! Thanks for watching
Great video! It should be a PSA on all media here in the U.S.! You are very lucky to have been able to make the move to NZ. My son and I were fortunate to be able to visit NZ and Australia 6 years ago. We both fell in love with NZ. I'm nearing retirement and know there is not much chance of moving to NZ now without lots of cash! I have however told my two sons to consider a move to NZ or other country with a social democracy for the very reasons you named! Especially healthcare! Sadly I feel the situation here in the U.S. is deteriorating quickly on many fronts and the nationalism drive is starting to look too familiar to historical examples! I'm very happy for you and your family that you were able to make the move!
That is very kind - thanks!
Agree, both Aussie’s and Kiwis have this mentality where we work to live not live to work, and if we don’t has work-life balance and family and friends and health come first.
Aww Aunty you could hear those emotions in reference to the value kiwi folks place on your time with family, work and the desire to achieve balance you can hear how greatly you have valued that change here from your time in your home country.
Yes I truly have!
What i really don't understand about the US is the relationship between religion and state. The US was originally founded by people wanting freedom to choose their religious beliefs but the constitution as I understand it separates government from church. However these days it seems that US political leaders can not get elected unless they at least portray themselves as religious and seemingly every speech has to mention god. It seems like the church or at least christianity and the state are very much bedfellows.
I'm also of the understanding that politics and religion are not topics for casual conversation, I'm not sure how long I would last before upsetting people by giving my opinions.
Yip, I have upset people. I find I have to walk away or run because Americans see only black/white - red/blue. They see the American way as the only system that will move the world forward. Sisters is married to Floridian who is a huge maga supporter. Debates ran very hot when they were last here just after Trump won.
Ian - nice reflection on how politicians have to mention God whether sincerely or not. Yes you can not talk about it. It is one of the conversations I love avoiding living in NZ!
I moved temporarily to the US for 9 yrs from Canada. In Canada the United Chruch does good work - it sponsored the Darwin exhibit at Toronto's Royal Ontario Musem- so it seems ungentlemanly to claim atheism. After 1 yr in West Virginia and seeing the huge, omnipresent, blinkered aggressive Christianity, I decided, "Yeah, I'm an atheist". I'm not one of these guys."
Australian here. My wife and I had 4 weeks in the UK back in '18 and did a 'Jack the Ripper' tour around London. The group consisted of around 8 Americans, and us. As an aside, I love seeing Americans outside of the US as they are the few who are willing to sample life in another country, if only for a short time. Anyway, I asked the guide if Shirlock Holmes lived during the same time as JtR and she laughed, saying 'another one who thinks SH was a real person'. I honestly thought he was and told a work mate about this when I returned to work. He said that SH was a character in fiction novels. Well, I don't read fiction, never have and never will so I didn't know that. He asked if I was embarrassed at asking the question that night. I said I was but only for a moment as it then occurred to me that at least half the world's population believe fictional characters are real (I'm an atheist so you know who I mean) and there are even countries that mention said fictional character on their bank notes and the rest of the group were from one such country. My embarrassment disappeared. Whether or not you believe in God doesn't matter to me, my point is that the US makes mention of him on its bank notes, on signs in court rooms, etc. which is silly enough but that I think God is fictional makes it even more so.
@@davidrayner9832 recently an Italian priest told a group of children that Santa didn't exist. That could be irony on a whole new level. 😂
I respect your point of view .
The term “Team Player “ which originated in the USA really gets up my nose.
I worked in a call centre in Sydney for about 18 months and everything revolves around team player , team goals , team spirit , team oriented. Team motivation!! You get the picture!!
If that’s the case how come when somebody made a wrong decision it suddenly became an individual mistake.
How come it wasn’t a team decision!!
It makes me laugh at the stupidity of the one in all in concept.
I spoke to an American about this and she said it all starts a few decades ago to motivate staff .
Well I think it’s bullshit !!
If it’s all about the team then the whole team should be admonished not the individual.
If I don’t stop now I’ll explode !!
As a Kiwi who has never lived in New Zealand as an adult you make me want to come home. Although there are many similarities between NZ and Australia, unfortunately in many areas Australia is becoming more and more Americanised. Of course it is in all the negative areas, rather than the positive. I really hope that your challenge to people to reflect and reconsider some of their values, looking at what is important for oneself, their family, friends and community is the beginning of a new wave of kindness and social responsibility! Enjoying your vlogs!!!!!
Thanks - yes I agree Aussie is very much like the USA. I always think that it is too similar, why would I not just go back to the USA?
I love that you are using your change in perspective as a topic. We can all do with taking a moment to reassess our own perspectives on life as we move through our life experiences. That's how we learn and grow to be better humans. And thank you for noticing our sense of freedom differences. Yes we are community based. My personal thought on that is, if we can work together to complete the big picture to look like a happy one when all the pieces of the puzzle are in their places, then we can feel safe in our environment knowing everything is being taken care of by someone in the community. This allows each of us to feel free, not just within the outer life around us, but also the inner life within our own minds. Where there is worry, there is a form of fear. Fear only brings feelings of limitation, restriction, entrapment, bitterness, separation..... In other words, not freedom.
I'm so sorry that America is the way you have expressed. My concern is going forward, our young are being influenced more and more by the fads, the music, the movies, the crime etc., in America.
Your channel is good in that you enjoy highlighting the differences from your own experiences, which hopefully will help people here, to realise that we are kiwis and we have our own way of doing things and we should never give that up to become like another.... We should all appreciate people for who they are, to teach us how to be better at being who we are.
Hmmm 🤔, did I turn off on a side road somewhere back there, sorry 😌.
Elah - great comments and thank you for taking the time to share them!!!
😆 well said. You took a slight detour but it was beautifully put. Gday from WA. I’m hoping to make it back to NZ very soon. Love ya Kiwis. 👍🏼
On guns, I worked, in Chile, with a Texan who told me that he was really upset and nervous without his gun on his belt, he apparently carries it full time, everywhere, even within his house. ""To defend myself and my family". I asked him what it was like to live in a country so dangerous that he had to carry a firearm all the time. The really scary thing, for me, was that he could not understand the question. I spend time in the USA most years, I love northern Washington in summer, and have a lot of friends there, but Texas? While there I found a lot of very good things, but the guns, I am extremely uncomfortable with that culture.
Great Insights! Freedom... I'd have to say that US citizens appear not only to overvalue freedom, many don't seem to be aware that they do not rank as number 1 in freedom indexes. Freedom house (and American organisation) scores the US at 83/100. New Zealand scores 99/100. Australia 97/100.
Yes so true - thanks for watching!
The American's i see in the news shouting about freedom and saying they are the freest country on earth, I kinda get the feeling they are really just thinking about guns. Americans are way more free in owning guns... and i think there's a good chunk of Americans that really only care about that.
@@blakedwan291 Not being American, I can't say... For all the issues they face, we must remember that Americans are our friends and were it not for the American spirit, we would not be enjoying modern liberal democracy they birthed and defended, and grew, strong enough to take root around the world.
@@howlsatdesertmoon9840 well said. I do tend tend to get caught up in watching the crazy side of America.
Where I work we are encouraged to have a good work/life balance. If you need time off (when my mum was dying) you aren’t made to feel guilty that you have caring responsibilities.
Yes I love that!!! So glad you got time off.
@@Kiwiamericans when my dog was killed I was given 4 days bereavement leave and after that had passed, was asked if I needed more!
@@drayner2517 as an ex manager I would do exactly the same thing. Quite apart from it being a nice thing to do, you would not want to be at work, you would be unproductive, the team morale would be down (a) because you were there being unhappy and (b) because I made you be there. So yes we'll suffer a little while you are away but we'll all pick up a little of your work if we can and feel we are doing something nice for you in the process.
Depending on the context, asking someone about what their job can be seen as an attempt to judge and socially stratify them, which is very un-Kiwi. And you kinda don't want to know anyway because it's awkward if it turns out their job means they're well off, because then Tall Poppy Syndrome kicks in and you have to start knocking them down a peg. Asking them also means they're obliged to ask you back, and you don't want that for the same reasons.
Better to ask "no hea a koe?"
This made me laugh, I've never really thought about it before but that is so true!
There's also the risk their job is really boring and you have to be polite and ask follow up questions about it. Could become a total yawn fest.
Hey Tara, I really appreciate your honesty and integrity - it's not easy to criticize your own culture on social media. I'm a Kiwi living in London and I've found your posts really enlightening. I'm glad you love it there and are feeling you have found yourself a new home. In relation to your final point around the American veneration of freedom and the gap between concept and practice. I wanted to share with you a BBC article written last year exploring reasons why NZ is so progressive (most usefully in comparison to other "new world" nations like the US and fellow British dominions like Australia and Canada). I never knew we were viewed as far back as the Victorian era as a kind of social laboratory - an experiment in nation building. And although there is A LOT to be very proud of it's only right to acknowledge that said nation building for the British empire as an exercise meant colonisation for the Maori as a reality. Now I raise this issue not to be a downer or to be woke but because I believe it's in the resolving the effects of colonisation that NZ can in real time put its values into practice. Sure it's not easy but since when has NZ ever let a challenge stop it? We talk of our famous ingenuity in regards to fixing a problem, to finding a solution and not outsourcing it but believing in ourselves to have what it takes to think outside the box and get it sorted. That's a brilliant trait. But I really believe the best example is yet to come. Any Kiwi worth their salt will agree that the huge gaps in equality in our society between Maori (and pasifika) and non-Maori is unacceptable for us as a nation. That it offends our sense of what is fair and just. This is relevant because you'll read that it's equality that kiwis value more than freedom. "Equality was the most important political value and the most compelling goal to strive for and protect". I think there's a lot of truth in this - even over 100 years since that was written about us. It's about doing what is best for the common good, the community, the whanau if you like rather than glorified self interest. At the end of the day all kiwis know in their hearts if we can't get it right, who can? I think I saw it most movingly in the way the nation acted as one "energy" in response to the mosque killings. When people handed in guns and ammunition they did so because they placed the collective safety of all of us as kiwis, as a nation, above so-called freedom to own a gun. Owning a gun is a privilege. An even greater privilege is having safety for the entire society and so it came to pass that the country de-armed without incident like it was one being - harmonious and in step. The world saw a nation respond as a community in mourning and pain - the country became a community in spirit, in essence and I believe a huge part of this is directly due to the influence of Maori values being more fully integral to our idea of what it means to be a New Zealander. Sorry for waffling. I hope that made sense. X www.bbc.com/travel/article/20200518-why-is-new-zealand-so-progressive
Luke - I love it! Thanks so much for taking the time to share. Yes the values of the Maori are the reason that NZ is what it is today. Thanks for watching.
Good post OP- very well thought out
As a fellow Kiwi I say BRAVO!!
As you say NZ is not perfect, however we do strive to make our country as FAIR as possible. FAIR should be the Operative Word when organising a Society. FAIR democracy, FAIR sharing of country's resources, FAIR healthcare system, FAIR taxation system, FAIR everything, Agree?
Great to see you trying to INFORM your country men who could make America a much better place if it was FAIRER, Right?
Yes Mike - fairness is how I would describe NZ! Thanks for watching.
As an American, I suspect that the theory does not match with the practice.
How many americans have you heard say - on TV or in books - Life's not fair!! Get over it.
A Canadian, I taught in three US states (WV, CA, and PA) over 9 yrs and ran into this all the time. A lot of Americans believe this like they believe in gravity. And unfortunately tis conviction gives Americans a skewed view of reality. They have no idea how they stole California (H. D Thoreau wrote :On Civil Disobedience" while in jail for not paying his taxes because he didnt want to support this war. Paying for health care was not just annoying but more expensive that in Canada. You cant criticize the US (look at how often Kiwiamercans qualifies every remark). The greatest country in the world myth stops people from understanding or even visiting the rest of world allows people to not understand or want to understand the rest of the world. They so easiliy belive the rest of the world is jealous, or a potential enemy.
And Mexico stole its land from the Indians themselves. Stealing from thieves?
Americans really do understand the rest of the world. We are if anything the least nationalistic people in the world.
I was listening to you fairly relaxed until you mentioned sending kids to school with a _bullet proof backpack_ ! I'm Australian, I've travelled widely in Indonesia, India, Pakistan, Malaysia and Thailand and twice visited Saudi Arabia plus lesser amounts of time in several other Asian countries and once to South Africa. Never once have I met anyone who thought of having a bullet proof anything. That was a shock.
Thanks for watching!
And the nra thinks it's a GOOD thing. And if you know anything about school shootings, you know this is yet another way to make money. Scare parents into having a bullet proof backpack yet at the same time encourage people to buy more guns
I've never heard of bullet proof backpacks. Someone undoubtedly was pulling your leg and you fell for it like a ton of bricks.
@@bigverybadtomit’s a real thing, I promise you. Lifelong Arkansan wanting to become a kiwi in the future here.
@@mattmcalister9229 I live in Chicagoland and I would have heard of it before you.
You are right on with the healthcare - and most of the other stuff too. The part about freedom is so true. Makes me so sad. We are getting so many things wrong these days and it seems to be getting worse instead of better. Sigh.
Aw your videos are so refreshing. I’m a born and raised kiwi and have lived in North Carolina for the last 7 years. You have articulated everything I’ve felt for the last 7 years. Trying to pinpoint the differences and explain them to my friends here in the USA. It’s never something you’ll fully understand until you live in it! Thanks so much for helping educate Americans on what else the world has to offer.
Thank you for saying nz healthcare is good. It is and you are right still need more work in this field. Especially with elderly care
Thanks for watching!
youth and mental health in nz is rubbish
@@tekanawateoti3952 don’t forget the elderly they too have suicides but because they are old they are ignored and because they do not photography well no poster child for elderly mental health
As a Kiwi who’s lived in the US for 20 years (in small towns and big cities) I would say Americans are very friendly but not inviting. They don’t easily let you in to their bubble and are very cautious of strangers. The healthcare thing is real because I would love to leave my job but can’t (I could but it would be a disadvantage to my current situation) because of the benefits I need for my family and vacation/holiday is a joke. Taking more than a week at a time is not normal at all.
Unfortunately i also don’t see NZ as the same place I grew up in in the 80s-90s. Much more I could add but won’t write a novel.
Brian - thanks so much for sharing your experience. I would love to hear more about your experience growing up in NZ sometime :)
That's kind a sad to live your life base on your employment benefits, isn't it?
I get 5 weeks paid vacation leave every year plus long services leave and I have no worries about healthcare services.
I can't imagine living in USA where all I do in life seems dictated by economic benefits of my employment. We should live to enjoy life, not work in order to live! We should have freedom to enjoy our life and not worries about healthcare needs.
@@pinayladyoz8044 yes it certainly was beneficial wage wise in aussie, being above the 26th parallel actually made a difference, the long service leave? i think thats something that wasnt suppose to last hahahahahaha a temporary problem they had with keeping people at the same place of employment for more than a year...back in the 70s...and havent been able to turn it off...
Is that short holiday the reason we would see Americans rushing around Europe? A day a country and on to the next?
@@kathyscott2885 yup as majority of Americans don't get long vacation leave unlike with British, Australians, Kiwis, Germans, French, Canadians, Danes, Norwegian and more.....
This makes the US sound horrid. Next month I'm taking five weeks off work over the holidays and I am looking forward to it!
Awesome - what are you doing???
America is an incredible country! Not happy with the bashing of it at all. Everything I’ve heard is negativity. What makes NZ so perfect? Not telling the other side.
"There are different ways of doing things they're all valuable...".
The question is who benefits from the value. E.g. the military industrial complex or the big banks or the public.
As an outsider - an Aussie - I think things like the healthcare system in the US are a huge problem - but the lie of freedom (the "corrections"-industrial complex) is the biggest issue.
To me the US has one of the most pervasive and effective propaganda systems in the world -it is not totally state sponsored - it is (like a lot in the US) a public/private partnership.
The US ideals "freedom" , neo-con capitalism, guns, hard work as the primary value, no real occupatinal health and safety are taught in schools (largely public) , pushed in the media (private) - the perfect private/public partnership - almost certainly the most effective priv/pub partnership.
It's the most effective propaganda system in the world. People genuinely seem to believe the rubbish that is spouted.
I don't think Soviet ("you pretend to pay me I pretend to work") or Chinese citizens ever really believed the workers paradise BS.
But I think the people in the US'As prisons (highest rate per capita in the "land of the free" ) , the under employed people who are going to work sick in hyper competitive companies for little pay (or no actual pay in the case of some service jobs) etc etc **really believe** that US stle capitialism is a good thing.
I suspect in many cases there's more than a bit of: "I want to be in the 1% that own 99% of the country. - if I can just work hard enough I'LL be the one screwing the employees and exploiting the customer base and it will all have been worth it. Get rich or die trying (literally in the poorer parts of the coiuntry)"
And the thing that makes me really angry is the US tries actively to export that to countries like mine.
It helps that we Americans really do know what life is like in other countries, and if you think capitalism is bad, try socialism.
YEP - Target tried to "export" those ideals to Canada a few years ago, and they failed BIG TIME. Walmart seems to have done it more succesfully but they are required to pay the provincial MINIMUM wage, which for some provinces is now as high as $20 per hour!!
I don't understand why America think healthcare for everyone is wrong, I just don't get it. If you are sick or hurt it's so reassuring that I can just go to the hospital and get help and it won't cost me a thing. I think Americans need to hold their government accountable more, you pay taxes and the government should look after it's people e.g. some form of healthcare or assistance if you really need it. I feel really sorry for Americans.
As an American….I don’t get it either…..
The way i see it, if paying tax means that the kid down the road can get open heart surgery, or it pays for the water for a firetruck to put my neighbour’s house out…im happy to pay!
@@syreetarogers5227 yeah our taxes in NZ pays for all that, it covers roads, hospitals, health care e.g. children can go to the dr for free etc social programs, services like fire, police, we also pay rates here which is paid to local government e.g. in Auckland where I live we pay rates to Auckland council who look after rubbish removal, parks, local roads, etc.
schmeggynz yes! I live in wellington and seriously paying taxes means i can get a library book or call the police when i need them… as i said, happy to pay!
I know right. In Canada if a politician goes after universal healthcare they are out the door. I have family in the US that are broke because of their crappy system.
Blows my mind that taking your shoes to get repaired isn't common in the US. Wow.
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Yep I thought every country had cobblers .
Australian here (New Zealand's cocky older brothers) I never realised just what American consumerism was like until I traveled, not to the US, but in Asia and Europe.
I'd often get mistaken as an American by American tourists (probably as I was reading books and travel guides in English) and there'd so often be that immediate attempt at friendly communications (this is totally one thing I do love about Americans even if it can get a little over whelming at times) but then.. they'll notice I'm using a 8 year old laptop or a 7 year old digital camera, I'm like "my old laptop/camera owes me nothing and does everything I need it to do, and if it gets stolen it's literally no great loss" and "I've used this camera for years, I know how to use it instinctively I don't need to relearn a new system so I rarely miss a shot" but then usually get the "but it doesn't do this, or that" (ie laptop doesn't wifi stream video to another one of the companies more modern products like their brand new MacBook Pro (that cost me more than my entire holiday) , or the camera only has 16 MP instead of the 25, 30, 50 megapixels their camera does (that, with new lenses, cost three times more than my entire holiday cost)
How refreshing! An American putting America into perspective. I lived there for 6 years in the '70's and had a ball ... and also an education (travel is a great tutor). In retrospect? The indoctrination of youth through to adulthood is frightening, making freedom a relative concept. I needed a tooth removing and took out shares in the dentist, although he was very good. The narrowness of perspective of the regular citizen (I was 2 years in CT and 3 years in NY and a year in SF) ... is like tunnel vision. And although I was living in NY and working in Little Italy at the height of the mafia's power, it was all very exciting for a young fella! I went back to NY for a two week holiday several years ago and it has changed ... all for the worse. I'll live with my happy memories, but I'll never return.
As always, I love this video. You nailed it. This is exactly what living in the US is like and how our perceptions are skewed. I think the US has even gone as far as to make us nervous about traveling anywhere. And not just since COVID. There was always a sense that as an American overseas we are not going to be safe from mugging, pick pocketing, scams, being drugged, being kidnapped or even murdered. Somehow the media has made so many people I know feel like we are targets and we can’t leave our country safely. It’s sad. America has many great things but our fear monger based approach is not a good one.
I’d love to find out more about how easy or hard it is to get jobs in NZ, make the move, and make enough money to afford to actually live in NZ. The cost of moving your stuff. Did you sell everything or leave it in storage? How hard is it to find work? How about starting a business? Could you open up a little shop easily or is it filled with a ton on government regulations? I’d love to hear more about how to actually pull off a move there
Nicole - That is a great point and you are totally right! They do scare you about leaving. I remember in college when we wanted to travel with friends all of the parents present horror stories. The reality is that the US is more dangerous then a lot of places.
I would say it is hard to get into NZ if I am honest. I would plan on 1-2 years to work out all the visa issues unless you are young and just want to do a working holiday visa which is easier to get. I did sell everything and I recommend not bringing more than the 2 suitcases that you get to have on an international flight. Finding work will all depend on your skillset and starting a business is easy. I have just started 3 :) You get government support not regulation here. Hope that helps! I do offer consulting services if you want to talk directly too me :)
You don't need to get that information from the media. People who know other countries know that it is not safe for an American to leave the country.
Great video. I thought you could have done a 6th lie about equality too. That whole thing about anyone in the US having the opportunity to become rich and powerful. That for me is one of the biggest lies America tells it's citizens. More than any other Western country in the world that is the least true. Also, like you were saying, I don't know why Capitalism has to equal criminality and inhumanity. I am sure that was not what this economic model was supposed to be about.
That is interesting - thanks for bringing that up! Yes it is hard to start a business or at least be successful with all the red tape so how is it the land of opportunity...hmmm
Anyone in the USA does have the opportunity to become rich. But you cannot do that without working for it.
It's good to understand how brutal life in the US is for ordinary people. A bit like Alice in Through the Looking Glass: you have to run as fast as you can to just stay in one place. I've been a US expat (in Asia) pretty much since 1990. I might go back to visit, but I really don't understand how people can stand to live in the US. Keep up the good life!
Freedom is definitely defined differently outside the US. I don't see how you are free if you have to own a firearm to feel safe. Having grown up in a country in Civil War i have seen what type of "freedom" firearms deliver. Living in fear is not freedom. Having to go through metal detectors every day is not freedom. We have state sponsored health care in my country, its not perfect but its free. Which is a freedom for each citizen. Our stores don't have the insane variety that US stores have, but we also don't have to deal with the consumerism which bankrupts so many. Thank you for honesty. Hopefully your message reaches those that need to hear it. Stay Free
One of the most interesting observations, from a non-American about Americans, I've read, came from author Tim Winton in his novel 'Breathe':
Eva (the American character) tells Bruce (an Australian character) what it was like growing up in Salt Lake City, Mormons and American ambition.
"But the way Eva told it, her countrymen were restless, nomadic, clogging freeways and airports in their fevered search for action. She said they were driven by ambition in a way that no Australian could possibly understand. . . She made her own people sound vicious. Yet God was in everything - all the talk, all the music, even on their money. Ambition, she said. Aspiration and mortal anxiety."
So interesting - thanks for sharing!
Tim Winton has got to be one of the very best novelists in australia. I will be reading breathe next methinks 😁
Hi Tara, Thanks for your video. I have been to the US a few times, but only for holidays and my experience of being there is solely as a holiday visitor. I thought this commentary from you was very interesting. The part where you mention that you feel as though the American economy is not designed to encourage small business, but rather large multinational companies, gave me a better insight. As a Proud NZer, I think part of the reason why small business is encouraged here is because to some extent, we see ourselves as 'ideas people/creatives'. Therefore, if you're living in a Society where working within the System is more heavily encouraged, then a lot of that ability to nurture new business ideas and encourage self creativity would seem as though it is suppressed. This difference is Thinking is also alluded to in one of your other videos, where Chantelle and Yourself are doing a compare/contrast about the differences between North American and NZ Education systems. You both mentioned that children expressing their own thoughts and ideas and actively being encouraged to question things and interact with their Teachers was quite a pronounced contrast, to learning back in the US, from your experience.
Hi Tara, I have a friend from South Africa who’s known there as “colored” from a poorer area in a large city in South Africa, couldn’t believe life here without guns and gang life, didn’t know that it isn’t the usual way too live life, just was so used to it there, assumed that was simply the way life is everywhere. I guess we don’t know what other countries live like until we actually live there. The USA has so much going for it in so many ways, but like any country have things they can adopt from elsewhere for the better. Great list and hearing what your perceptions are having lived in both the US and NZ
I am glad you liked the video! Thanks for watching :)
Kia Ora, great clip. I think you are spot on in your assessments. I could write an essay. Instead IMO as a Pakeha (non-Maori) Kiwi I think it is the influence of Maori and Pacifica to be welcoming and work for the greater good of all that stands NZ apart even from our close "cousins" in Aus.
I totally agree! Thanks for watching
A small biz in the U.S. has to compete for qualified employees, the large companies can offer healthcare plans and also retirement plans (which are also more important in the U.S. because other countries are more generous with publicly funded retirement - what is called Social Security in the U.S.).
A person might be willing to work for a startup even if they cannot quite pay the big salary right now, - and in all rich countries other than the U.S. having healthcare is a no brainer. The employees of big biz have it and self employed or staff of small companies have it as well.
It levels the playing field in recruitment a bit. A person that has a chroncially ill family member often cannot afford to work for a small company (or to start their own company).
Same with student loans. College graduates must pay them down, so those jobs must have higher wages to make that possible. So the costs for companies are higher ....
Really awesome video Tara, loved it 🙌🏾💛
Thanks for watching!
Lies America told me summary:
1) America is the greatest country in the world - This is funny, only people with too much ego goes around says that their country is the best lol.
2) Socialized Healthcare is bad - lol health/wellbeing is important; no health, no energy/motivation to make money
3) Hard/Good/Team-player - worker works for long Overtime hours at the expense of health is good; lol that's the worse. Like what @ kiwiamericans said, spending time with family and friends and having spare time to do things you love to do after work hours is better then aforementioned.
4) Consumerism - the constant buying or not missing sale makes you feel "great"; saving and repairing old stuffs is sentimental and savvy; wearing same clothes until it wears off is both savvy and eco-friendly!
5) The lie of freedom - safety/security, education/healthcare (expensive)
Thanks for sharing your perspective! It's refreshing.
Great summary and thanks for your thoughts! I appreciate it!
sounds super stressful in the usa,
Freedom and responsibility go hand in hand. Quite a few Americans don't realize that.
Very well said. BUT
In your discussion on healthcare, you fail to point out that if 'the system' pays if you are sick then 'the system' is incentivised to ensure you keep well. Hence free mamograms for example and free dental and medical visits for youngsters.
Once you ARE sick, regular checks to ensure you are doing as well as you can e.g. eyesight and feet checks for diabetics.
Nice - well said!
I lived in The USA mainly San Diego as a young Maori travelling the world , and I didn’t have insurance but I was lucky i guess,San Diego was my favourite place ,along with London and New York, Spain ,France etc, I met some people on a greyhound bus ,after leaving New York to LA we’re amazed at my travels around the world as most never traveled to far from home,it was an amazing journey I’m now 70yrs old and living the good life with partner of 27 years,in Beautiful Brisbane
Awe Mike that sounds wonderful! Thanks for watching :)
Thank you for pointing out the problems in the USA I was watching CNN through the day and the last school shooting a teacher said
there had been a school shooting every three days,the media does not report them unless they are large shootings it must be
stressful to be a teacher or a student.
Colin - yes there are a lot more than are reported. Many times they are able to shut it down before it happens as well. It is very stressful....Thanks for watching!
It is! I have been teaching for 23 years, and I am dreading the upcoming school year. We had a threat on one of our last days (during a pep rally, and only three of us got the alert and went into lock-down. I managed not to freak the kids out, and we got an all-clear, but then our principal did not alert the rest of the staff. I went to every teacher on the field and made sure they knew to keep their eyes peeled for the kid who was off campus that threatened to show up and kill everyone). So, my confidence in leadership is at zero.
I love my country, but want better for my son. I am considering starting the intensive process to get qualified to teach in NZ. I am afraid that I cannot devote enough time to do the paperwork since I teach an extra class to make ends meet, but I know we need to move by next summer. The stress is difficult, and we were told this year not to mention climate change in lessons since parents here thing it is controversial or fake. The curriculum is being limited, even when part of what I teach (per state guidelines) is critical thinking and evaluating sources. It is disheartening to say the least.
Thanks for the video and for offering a fresh perspective.
A hug from an antipodean (Italy). I can confirm everything related to healthcare and work/life balance
It's difficult define freedom as it's an ingrained part of life here. I don't think of us as free or not free, just alive and thriving. I agree however with the point that it's part of freedom to collectively care for those around us, I suppose there's a freedom in being able to step away from something that has a toxic hold on you, e.g. a job you hate but stay at for the "benefits"
Yes freedom is hard to define! Thanks for watching.
Freedom is a prIvatised "corrections" sysrtem that pays juvenile juddges to make sure "the beds are full" and has every incentive to make sure no-one is re-habilitated - rescidvitsts are of course the best customers - they stay longer more get sentenced more often.
I believe there is some change in the wind, but to me one of the most ironic things that we hear Amercians say is "home of the free".
I am also glad that the colour of one's skin is not important in NZ like it is in USA.
Nz is good but it’s still racist, we hide it well, it comes out every 4 years around election time…
🙄That's a fat lie if I've ever heard one
Interesting thoughts about freedom! We have often discussed the american idea about being so free, but I really can't see americans as free considering basic things like health care, education and raising a family.
Being from Sweden, my entire education from first grade until a finished master of laws was free. The last couple of years at the university, I (along with all other students) had a student grant and the option of borrowing money for living costs with lower interest and better condititions than any other loan. That way, I could have started studying with no money in my pocket, and my only limit is my brains and my ambitions. That's educational freedom for me!
Health care is free except from a small fee for visits. The first costs of medication is payed by yourself, but if/when the cost increases, it is step by step more covered by the government. Also: if I can't work because of health issues, the basics of my income loss is also covered. This is not connected to my employer, it's just connected to me working and paying my taxes to be covered. This safety net gives us a lot of freedom to choose the setup of our lives.
With two kids, I have had the opportunity to take lots of time off from work to be with them. With our first kid, I had 8 months off work (spending 2 of them travelling New Zealand...) and with the second I also had 8 months of (spending 2 of them in Gran Canaria). Daycare for them costs about 230 USD/month so that both parents can work. (traditionally most important for women, as they are most likely to stay home without pay otherwise) When (you know it happens...) the kids are sick, we can always be away from work to take care of them, and much of the income loss is paid for. All of this creates enormous amounts of freedom for us to plan and live the life that we want.
In that perspective, I really can't understand how I could be more free in the US...
Magnus - thanks for sharing as I did not know that was how it worked in Sweden!
New Zealand isn't perfect but I wake up here everyday grateful. The love i have in my heart for this country and the people is beyond measurements.
I don’t understand the idolising of the American flag. I don’t see it happening anywhere else. Can you explain?
Yes.I was in a Mall in Salem and there was a Giant American Flag in the centre that went up from the ground floor to the roof on the 2nd or 3rd floor.
It had spotlights all around it lighting it up.
I was stunned.
I told my American BIL that you would never see that kind of ultra patriotism in a Kiwi Mall.
It was waaay over the top i felt.
Americans are very patriotic to say the least and the flag represents our freedoms/rights/and great men/women who have died.
thanks for such an open and candid speech. I agree with you, especially the first point, I found the average American parochial and naïve regarding what happens outside the US. I do hope you will reach a wide audience in your home country, as your video is a real wake up call for some. :-)
People who refuse vaccination because it impinges on their freedom are putting themselves and others at risk. e.g. when two people work together and both are vaccinated, they have 250x the immunity that they would have if neither are vaccinated, whereas if only one person out of the two is vaxed, they would have only 10x the immunity.
What a great point. Do you have a source?
@@josephdouglas9685 News report on tv1 last night
What if they refuse thus vaccine because they don't trust it, but would welcome Novavax when it is available? Don't be a sheeple!
@@markwairepo2871 I was vaxed twice without any problems whatsoever. Who'se the sheeple??
@@trevorparlane oh yeah the rest of the world should be judged by your example.......hail to the King
Well done and balanced. Having been raised and live in at least four cultures in America and stayed in a number of other countries that American isn't the greatest and no one has to be the greatest. It better to value each other rather than ranking each other, and to be mindful of the greater good. People must not read Preamble to the US Constitution, We the people, for the common good, etc in our Constitution mean exactly a social responsibility to the common good, not just transactional and out for selfishly for yourself. I have been wanting for sometime to move to NZ or Europe for sometime getting tired of what is going on here. Make no mistake both sides of my family have been here this country some before it was any Europeans, and the rest in the early 1600. So my roots go deep and my direct relatives are well known in history, leaders of the revolution and signer of the Constitution, so I like the idea of We the people, for the common good and would rather live where people still value that instead of overly selfish transactional lives with constantly shopping and buying. I too have work for myself as my wife so nothing wrong with Capitalism in balance with the social good. Make no mistake every country has pros and cons, in different amounts and depths. Still my personal math says NZ, Canada, and some other countries make my personal 2+2=4 work for me. Thanks!
Thanks so much for all your thoughts and for watching! I appreciate your perspective :)
Wait, THAT’S why we’re still part of the commonwealth? I guess that makes sense after what I’ve heard about Brexit. After the flag thing a few years ago, I just assumed that the reason we didn’t leave the commonwealth is because it’d be a giant PITA.
As for our respective countries’ ideas of freedom, look no further than the Laura Ingrahams who called us a dictatorship for having strict measures, even though we ended up with months-long stretches, even here in Auckland, where we could go about our lives without having to worry about that crappy virus at all.
Thanks for watching Julie!
There is indeed an element of DGAF, but she's right about our lack of individualist drive. Over in Australia they're a lot more individualistic and independently-minded, which is why their republicanism movement has always had more steam than ours. Their current plan is to have a referrendum as soon as 'Er Maj joins the angels, and I'd be shocked if it didn't pass. But here we're just not that offended by the idea of a foreign head of state when the likes of Dame Cindy work perfectly fine as a stand-in, and it also guarantees us some friends which we're always longing for in our lonely corner of the Pacific. The monarchy will lose a bit of popularity in New Zealand once Charles takes over, but I'm really hoping people will discover his better traits, like how he was the OG climate activist since before anyone cared, and probably isn't going to stop once he's king and has regal weight behind him.
As an American ex-pat with health issues I'd advise others who move here to get insurance as soon as you land. Unlike in the US, pre-existing medical conditions are held against you permanently and the same specialists who do both public and private service often prioritise private patients since it pays better. I waited for over a year for hip replacement and spent part of the time in a wheelchair when it was too painful to walk. I've been waiting two years for L-supraspinatus full-thickness repair and R-cmc joint repair, which must be spaced months apart since they are on opposite limbs. Been waiting for months for a spinal MRI in the context of herniation - I've had to stop working and my life has drastically diminished, which often makes me regret having ever moved here. There are shortages both in number and type of specialists and it be hard finding a good GP depending on where you live. I live in Wellington. On the other hand the MOH covers some home help and there are safety nets here that aren't much available in the US - though I'd much rather still have had these issues sorted and be enjoying full independence. Just want to make this point - that you are better off beginning with health insurance when you move to NZ. Nice VLOG!
Our public health system was deliberately under-resourced and underfunded between 1984 and 2017 by a series of neoliberal governments. They tried to introduce a private, for-profit, USA-style health system. At the same time they destroyed the tertiary education system that had met NZ's needs. This resulted in shortages of medical staff (and teachers). Since 2017 our Labour government has been trying to return to a totally funded, but sadly, 3 decades of deterioration can't be undone in 5 years. This is why you've had to wait too long for treatment.
As signatories of the charter of human rights, Australia and New Zealand believe that our governments must guard our basic human rights i.e.safety, housing, education, health, work, culture and religion. That is freedom. Freedom to be safe, happy, access to good all of life education, economic security through work, to live in peace and health, to practice your culture and religion without fear. Those are the values that underpin our sense of freedom.
Thanks so much for your thoughts!
@@Kiwiamericans you are most welcome *
Well said 👏
.. and just to be clear to our Americans friends, we may only buy new shirts now and then, but it's got nothing to do with not being able to afford it, it's simply that we don't place a huge emphasis on, what was stated, 'consumerism'.
'Consumerism' is all about selling you stuff that you don't really need. Like selling ice to the Eskimos!!
We think their are far more valuable things in life .. than new clothes.
It's ALL about priorities.
We put far more emphasis on life style and well being , rather than making $$$ .. which is why we have such things as Universal Healthcare.
David - very well said! Thanks for sharing
Australian here. My wife and I watch Law & Order quite a bit and three episodes we saw recently (though they may have been years old) had storylines in which the root cause of the crime, be it murder, embezzlement, etc. was that someone couldn't pay their medical bills. Yes, I know it's a TV drama but the plots have to be believable and they must get their ideas from somewhere. An Australian police drama would never have such a storyline because it simply can't happen here. Work - you may want to watch ruclips.net/video/yhBkeAo2Hlg/видео.html
Do you realize that Law & Order is pure fiction? And no, the plots aren't terribly believable, nor are the supposed to be. Because, its just TV. And its supposed to be ENTERTAINMENT. Its not supposed to be a real reflection of the US. In general, the whole premise of the stories are preposterous and not reflective of real crimes. But, we are not supposed to care, as I learned in my media classes in college, its called "deliberate suspension of belief". Why else would people be so excited about a story of a giant lizard destroying Tokyo, since 1954.
While sitting in my hotel room in Bali, I watched a number of Australian police dramas (that's the only English language TV they had was Australian). I have to say they were quite different from American TV dramas and frankly, a bit boring. But, I sensed they tried to stay truer to actual Australian society (Canadian cop shows can be like that too) I guess that's why you watch American TV dramas, but foreign audiences don't consume Australian media much.
So, don't be ignorant and draw conclusions about the United States based what you saw on an American TV series.
BTW,....these were these movies in America, about this guy named Crocodile Dundee and it was played by this guy from Australia... and you know....
@@clintfalk Yes, I know L & O is fiction but when you or any American sees an episode in which the root cause of the crime was that someone couldn't pay their medical bills, do you say "that could never happen here". No, you don't because you know it can and does happen. Not the crime part, but that people can and do go bankrupt over medical bills. The plots in L & O may be fiction, but that the US has the least affordable health care in the developed world is fact. Another show we sometimes watch which is not fiction is Dr Pimple Popper. In almost every episode is someone who has had a skin condition for 10 years or more and the reason they haven't had it seen to before this is usually the cost but if they appear on the show, treatment is free. That's how it is in the US but not in NZ or Australia but don't argue that with me, argue it with the lady in the video.
Very few police dramas, or for that matter most TV shows, depict how things really are.
Tara, I have to agree with the healthcare, as I ended up being taken to hospital yesterday in an ambulance, had a relatively minor operation last night and was discharged this today, and my only cost was getting picked up this morning. It's also good to see you coming around more to the perspectives that we value in New Zealand. As for freedoms, this is changing negatively all around the world at the moment but I guess this is all relative to where you are.
I am a NZer. I have lived and worked in Europe , Asia and Africa. Never in the Americas.
I was profoundly turned off the "USA as a concept" back in 1985 and again in 1991. When I realized that the US was simply a hegemonist and had no respect for anyone elses democracy at all.
NZ , a small, unthreatening country, with at least as democratic system as the US , voted to have a non nuclear policy.
The rich and powerful in the US went apoplectic about this democratic decision and turned on us just like the school yard bully.
The french nuclear tests in the Pacific were , and still are , regarded in NZ as profoundly immoral.
Our non nuclear stance was perfectly reasonable and justfiable then as it is now.
We got chucked out of ANZUS , just because we voted! WTF?
From then on I have found that US propoganda around freedom means "Freedom to do ONLY what the rich and powerful in Washington will allow".
The US hypocracy is at least as bad as that of the Russian or Chinese ....
The US , as a hegemon, have no hestitation to bully counties that are democracies which hold zero threat to the US. Why?
More recently we saw Trump in Europe exhibiting the same hegemonistic behavior ..... the look on Merkles face !!
It was appalling behavior amongst those who know they are free and democratic and do not need or appeciate another bully next door.
Only to find that their "ally" , the US was just as bullying as Russia.
All this also ignores the idea the "freedom" in the US means freedom of the powerful to exploit the "commons" or "weaker more peaceful peoples" with zero consequences.
There seems to be no guilt for the exploitation and repression of other people within the US itself.
The clearing of the indians from the west , the slavery .... ..... and now the US wants to take the high moral high ground on China. WTF?
When will there be a Treat of Waitangi for the First Nations and a Justice and Reconcilation Commission for black americans?
The US ( and others got very rich by polluting the atmosphere ( the commons ) by far far more than their fair share ..... and are showing ZERO signs of taking responsibility for what is effectively theft from other people in the world.
Then the US Supreme Court says that a Corporation have the same rights as natural persons. WTF? When was the last time a corporation went to jail? so the US now has a three level democracy top of course are Corporations , then "normal natural persons" , then , at the bottom millions of the disenfrachised by gerimandering and identification system manipulation that this wonderfull "Constitution" makes not attempt to stop. WTF?
In summary ZERO respect for the whole US social experiment since the war ...... it has been a disaster for millions and shows no sign of stopping.
We DO NOT want it repeated here.
Sorry Charlie. You may hate us, but that doesn't hide how full of beans you are. It was us who won the wars of the 20th Century, including the Cold War, and your existence is based on our work. You couldn't make it without us, no matter how you bluster otherwise.
In Australia we tend to wear clothes out...value reusing old stuff...there is a thriving neighbourhood swap system in most areas I have lived...and although we certainly buy new stuff ..there is not so much pressure to have the very latest all the time...its a good thing
I think it's brave you posting this topic today and I think it's really commendable and I appreciate you. It is beyond my imaginings to think that our children in NZ would ever need active shooting training, kevlar bag packs and walk through metal detectors at school. That's not freedom, that's like living in a violent, facist 3rd world country. The USA level of consumerism isn't freedom, it's what keeps debt collection agencies in business and makes them slaves to interest rates on loans and credit cards. Trying to keep up with the Joneses and stressing out about what OTHER people think of them. They'd be better off thinking, "What do I think of myself, how do I see my own value?". Do you know what creates debt??? FEAR. America is a nation of fearful people. To be fair they do make for a big target so I can understand them wanting to establish a strong military presence. But at the tune of $721.5 billion dollars a year for the Dept of Defense budget??? Some of that money shared out would lessen the cost of health care and education for her citizens. Allow them to think about taking all the time off they're entitled to and enjoy a better quality of life. At the end of the day your children won't thank you for working 80 hours a week (and how you're too tired to spend time with them). They'll thank you for coming to their school play, catching a game that they're playing in. And reminisce with you about that day you spent with them out at the lake/harbour when "you caught a fish THIS BIG". Those memories... that's what freedom looks like.
I could not agree more! Thanks for watching :)
The reason we spend so much money on defense is because we have to defend the entire world, not just ourselves. What were we doing in Yugoslavia, anyway? Because the Europeans couldn't do the job themselves.
I commend you for your bravery and honesty. It must be hard to say these things out loud given how proudly most Americans abide by their country. Well done!
Very brave of her to say not so nice things from the country she came from. Of couse these are only her opinions.
How would you feel if she would say not so nice things about New Zealand? You welcome her into your country with open arms, then she proceeds to spew vial, nasty, hurtful things about New Zealand. Would that hurt your feeling?
Very well said but even though you spoke respectfully and tried to educate, as you do, I have a feeling that you are going to get dragged through the mud by your kin and get labelled, along with other expats who have said the same, as unpatriotic Americans trash talking your country. It comes with the territory. That kind of indoctrination, much to our amusement here in Africa, runs deep in American society.
The question you will inevitably be asked is this: "If it is so great over there why are they rushing to come over here?" I wish you had explained that in advance as well.
I agree and await what tomorrow will bring when America wakes up :)
I'm in Canberra, Australia. People will talk about work in social situations (I mean, most people move to this city because of work) but work doesn't dominate most people's lives. I prefer to talk about anything else to be honest. I don't think about work when I'm not at work.
Great video I have always thought that American society was enslaved by capitalism and greed.The war of independence was more about tax avoidance to the crown then freedom from oppression.
This is so often how I feel about my friends and relatives in the US. As a Canadian it's worse 'cause it's so close. Cheers from Vancouver.