CAPTAIN AMERICA vs MASTER CHIEF - Super Power Beat Down (Episode 11)
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Master Chief is basically Captain America with a 1000 pound super-armor suit and a fully sentient AI
Actually better in some stuff lol
Makes him slower. Cap is 1000 times better fighter
@@notoriousmiks1927 Do you know halo lore at all? Spartans can run very fast as fast and faster than 30mph im not saying cap is bad just that master chief is prob better.
@@mr.boxlox he can run fast but not fight fast.
@@notoriousmiks1927 He can actually fight fast and im not trying to start war so maybe cap is better or maybe chief is better idk so i respect that you like cap i do too but i like chief better
Ppl really think hes just some dude with a suit of armor and a gun huh 💀
Yeah a lot of people think that but we hail fans know that's not the case
Basically
yea i dont get why tho he can take on a army and they make it seem like he can get defeated by a guy with a plate
Yeah expect he’s literally had almost the same Body enhancements. With Super Strong armor. Extremely fast reaction times and speed. With Extreme endurance and Hand-to-hand combat training. And has killed a Forerunner GOD. No way would captain American win.
Yah he has extensive military training and all he did here was stand and shoot
Remember, a 14 year old chief right after augmentation punched an odst in the face and he died instantly as his skin receded into his skull. The mjlonir armour multiplies his strength five fold
And?
@@malcolmdrake6137 indicates master chief is better augmented and better too with the mjolnir armour especially mark 5 and above and they have energy shields. more powerful than caps shield because they can stop a plasma shot where if cap tries to block one would only melt his shield
also spartan augmentation occured 500 years in the future, nit only its more realistic than bs marvel fantasy stuff but also the armour configuration by the spartans are possible.
also not: energy shields are extremely powerful and can block any incoming attacks. it will only break either if it gets hit by plasma rounds but it will recharge in 5 seconds but also jote the spartan armour also called mjolnir mark 4 up to gen 2 mark Vll now cost almost as a single UNSC space ship like the Stalwart class frigate.
For more information please read the Fall of Reach book to further understand how insane and powerful they made for this augmentation that 60% of the candidates died undergoing it.
@Malcom Drake I’m still tryna decide who I’m going to vote for but caps shield is adamantium which going off marvel which is semi reality based which halo is as well.. the normal metals apply which meaning adamantium is still the strongest metal including the newest upgrades for weaponry said shields need to block said weapons . I just gotta give that to cap
@@VinnySteez I used to think that the master chief was not a big deal, because I based myself only on the game, which is not the same, since if it is as it is in the story, the game would not make much sense, the master chief would just have to hit a punch to each enemy that is their size or smaller, to kill them, for the biggest ones like the Sangheili about 3 or 4 blows only with the fist, I for the game thought that the master chief only carried 1 ton and about 3 with the suit, a little more than Captain America that lifts up to 2 tons, but the master chief is much stronger, even more than Black panther that lifts 5 tons, the master chief hits with a force of up to 4 tons without the suit, With the suit it reaches 20 tons, a person lifts approximately 4 times the weight of the force with which he hits, so the master chief lifts almost 12 tons, with the suit more than 75 tons. In the series a Spartan woman who was the strongest of the women lifts a 3-ton vehicle without wearing the suit, from what was seen it did not cost her much, and the master chief is stronger, faster, more resistant and more intelligent than any spartan. The truth is that the master chief surpasses Captain America in everything, even in what Captain America specializes in the most, combat tactics for the simple fact that the master chief's emotions were blocked so that he is 100% logical and also has more experience, he was chosen for his super genetics, he was also genetically modified as the super soldier serum, Captain America was a weakling before being the Captain and he only had special only his thought, instead the master chief is completely special from the beginning, since he excels in every aspect, considering that he was genetically modified, and since he was 6 years old, he had training for 34 years, counting multiple battles throughout, and adding the armored suit makes him far superior to Captain America, since The suit gives him a protection equivalent to Captain America's shield and multiplies his strength almost 5 times, and that's not all, he also has a plasma shield equivalent to Captain America's shield. a, there is still more, the hologram indicates the vulnerable points in addition to correcting supposed calculations of movements, in fact without any of that and also Captain America, a bare-fist versus would be the same, master chief would win.
Listen, I like Captain America, I really do, but MC is like Captain America, but with bones denser than titanium, powered titanium alloy armor with an energy shield, technologically superior weaponry, special forces training since he was a six year old, superior reflexes, speed, and strength. This shouldn't have even been a question. Cap would've been killed as soon as he hit the ground, if MC wouldn't have blew up the plane first.
Caps legs would have been turned into Swiss cheese if he was even able to start that run.
Just imagine if cap jumps out of the plane at the start and just gets shot in the head with a halo sniper.
Because it’s vote based idiot.
Caps shield is made of metal stronger then titanium though lmao
Actually captain could beat him with pure ease, ya see cap's not wearing a full woven titanium fiber suit that could easily crush him without an exo skeleton, plus cap has a vibranium shield which could with ease dent chief's armor hell he could even just bounce his shield off a hard object to hit chief in the back of his head knocking out the connection for his exo skeleton forcing him to be stuck in place as his armor starts to rapidly crush him to death in a matter of seconds
This would be even better if it wasn't just a popularity contest
Yeah, the voting thing is cringe.
Like death battle?
@@travisdjuhana9967 No, Cap negs master chief
@@skillzgod5557 no captian America would lose
@@skillzgod5557 I absolutely love both but chief is litterly stronger than cap along with armor weighing in at a car weight
Captain America can fall from great heights
Master chief : I can fall from space and get up like nothing happened
87eFireWingman Now that’s wat I like to hear!! 😂😂
Thanos crush cap to the ground with all his force and nothing happened to him
Yeah Master Chief is present progressive and I said he's going to win this fight
thats right I can
@@mysticaltree273 you just let cap win right?
This is ridiculous. Spartans literally react things in micro seconds, 20 micro seconds to be exact. MC once dropped a pin and did complicated math to figure out the ships gravity before the pin even fell to the ground. And MC can literally flip 50 ton tanks like they’re nothing. He has titanium bones, is over 1,300 pounds, and is literally the perfect soldier. Plus, MC has various weapons, including an energy sword.
Yep Cap wins 0% of the time. Anyone who voted cap is an unknowledgeable dickhead
@@taylorcorbett8848 y you so mad it’s a video
@@taylorcorbett8848 Ego is showing
@@lolkaverr It make you mad because it's just ludicrous man like people make judgment without knowing the reality of things... it's like you let dumb muthafuckas be able to vote on shit. That's like crazy to me.. Master Chief killed three dudes when he was 14 years old with his bare hands, he punched one dude in the face so hard that he shattered his skull... this was before he even got the thousand pound suit.
@@lolkaverr Not mad, it's just hilarious how this shows battle polls are not accurate due to fanboys
Does anyone realise master chief, in armor is literally about 4 to 5x better at pretty much every physical activity than cap?
Yes
@@Master-Chief-YT Hey Chief.
🤓 well actually in halo master chief does within impact of water🤓
Physically John 117 is on a totally different level. He is stronger and faster on both his feet and with his reflexes as well. And with the suit on he will just one punch Steve into a cardiac arrest.
I see way too many people overestimating mc
@@abdurahmanpelletier8134 lmao he would eat Steve for breakfast
@@abdurahmanpelletier8134 Bitch, he would murder Cap, no contest. This isnt a "ooh goku vs superman" this is future soldier with fuckin Wolverine bones and reflexes that make him a blur, all while wearing a suit more durable than Ironman, vs a soldier from WWII with some strong serum and a great shield. Who can fight good.
Yeah no, Cap loses, end of story.
@@abdurahmanpelletier8134 chief litterally one punched a fucking banshee
@The New Crew nah you're biased af
If the winter soldier can catch his shield. So could chief.
Chief would have easily caught the shield and probably broke it
@@ghost_gaming_yt2147 Catch it, yes. Break it, no. It's made out of Vibranium. That stuff is next to indestructible.
@@onaimpulse6346 more than likely he could have broken it chief has tons of muscle was able to nearly kill three ODSTs without breaking a sweat and then he is wearing mijonir power armour
@@ghost_gaming_yt2147 I'm very aware, but the human body is not as strong as steel man. Let alone Vibranium. I'm a huge halo fan but I'm telling you now caps shield is more than strong enough to handle chief.
@@ghost_gaming_yt2147 No
When you watch this video 7 years later and realize John Walker did the same thing Cap did
Wow, I finally found a comment that mentions this, cause I’d thought it be easy to find, but I guess everyone else is preoccupied with the winner of the fight 😅
@@hiderryce1861 haha lol
Super soldier serum or fight a warz
And plus Master Chief was falling about five hundred miles per hour plus when he was falling from space it would have ripped Captain America into pieces if he did that himself
Can fall faster than terminal velocity, if I fell from the stratosphere it literally wouldn’t do anymore damage than if I fell from 10000ft ( assuming breaking through the atmosphere is not a factor
Even if this is a popularity contest, I'm still shocked at how many people are deluded into thinking Cap would somehow beat the Chief with no prep time and standard equipment. Also, why the hell does cap have a gun? Regardless that pee wee pistol would be like a bb gun against Chief's armor so I don't even know why he bothered to even take cover. Literally one punch from Master Chief would end the Cap. It has been stated multiple times that Cap is simply a human at the very peak of his potential, meaning Chief, whose practically a superhuman is physically superior anyways and with the armor there is no debate.
***** You can't base the powers of characters on feats because the writers just do what they want to make their characters seem more awesome. Obviously, in a real fight the Hulk would crush the Cap easily because Hulk is stronger faster and tougher. The shield can only do so much. And do you honestly think any human at the peak of any condition could survive a punch from the hulk? Getting punched by the hulk is like getting hit by a cannon that could crush steel. Human bones and the soft organs within would not survive. But the Chief would be able to survive the punch thanks to his armor. And the Chief can punch hard enough to pierce human flesh.
***** I'm not even a halo fan, but the fact of the matter is it is simple logic. Chief is physically superior, mentally superior (especially with Cortana), and technologically superior. The feats don't matter in a straight fight. And is Kang canon? Because I've never hear of him (I'm not a big marvel fan).
Ok calm down fanboy, you're hyping Cap way too much. And against Master Chief Cap would pretty much be unable to hurt him. Like you said Cap doesn't really use any weapons aside from his shield, so he has absolutely no way to actually hurt Chief. That ending in this episode is pure BS because the Spartan Armor is built to have to weakness even at the joints. It doesn't mattter how smart or how fast Cap adapts if there is literally NO way to hurt your opponent. Cap could punch Master Chief as hard as he could and he'd probably break his own hand. Cap would only be able to defend for a short period of time with his shield before being blasted by Chief's battle rifle. The shield isn't large enough to cover Cap's whole body so Chief, whose an Incredible marksman, can easily take off one or two of Caps legs. In fact, Chief doesn't even have to let Cap get close to him because he can just snipe him from long range while all Cap would be able to do is sit around and wait to be shot. Even in hand to hand combat Chief is way stronger and tougher so Cap would be able to do anything. No matter how you slice it, Cap can't win.
***** See this proves my point. Its difficult to judge characters by their feats because they accomplish things that are literally impossible. Once again, Captain America is supposed to a HUMAN at peak physical condition. No matter how athletic or fit you are, you can't just break the laws of physics. Punching Iron Man suit with full force SHOULD break Cap's hand no question. Human bones are about as strong as concrete so they'd crumble in front of steel. The writers pull shit out of their ass to make the characters be able to go to accomplish things they physically can't do. And Boxing to a standstill with Thor? That only proves Thor is a weakling without his hammer. I mean, what kind of God can't even beat a human?
And last time I checked, vibranium absorbs kinetic energy, it doesn't have the ability to deal it out. Chief's armor wouldn't even be scratched by the shield (likewise the shield wouldn't be damaged).
And Cap can dodge bullets? Are you kidding me? Yes he has a faster than average reaction time but so does Chief. Cap may be able to avoid bullets from regular marksmen, but Chief would easily follow any evasive maneuvers pulled by Cap due to his superior genetic engineering. And don't go saying Cap can outrun bullets cuz last time i checked he only runs about 50 miles an hour.
***** lol have anyone seen halo legends spartens don't need gun master chef took out 3 odsts with their armor on with his bare fist alon no wepons he also did it with out armor at thr age of 10 three year after he got tooken and his armor is made of something more advance then any marvle metle also hes in the yesr 2555-2599 or so i belive humans already concorded the milkyway and faced species that could destory cap and engey swords would go right through his sheild and kill him so yeah M.C would win srry cap if a sparten can give a brut a blood red eye in one punch their better and M.C survied a plasmetic blast equle to 100 nuclear bombs
"Masterchief just fires a gun.." He obviously doesn't know much about Masterchief.
damn right lucas
Lucas Greene hey it's boxes be master chief aka noble 6
Lucas Greene he fhuat 10000000000000000000000000000 elites
Lucas Greene they are lying there going by votes but in the story master chief is onley weakness is his visor So captain A will probably die he is bullet prof tho master chief is protected every where expect the helmet
Lucas Greene and if you look closely he did it at the neck and Cortina could just hack the plane and It flew away CRASH!!!!!
1:18 Aang: “Am I a joke to you?”
I think in reality, cap and chief will stop fighting and come to an agreement.
True and also, cap wouldn't kill master chief, only John walker would do that.
Are we forgetting that chief punched a nuke and lived?!?
Ya I agree
I can two. See?
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Taa-Daa
Well yes, but actually no.
He did “punch” the nuke and was willing to die right there, yes. But before the blast even had a chance to touch him, he was shielded by Cortana in that hard light structure.
Random Dalek right
@@themanagement3193 ok, but he also survived a fall from space without anything but his armor to protect him
"he's been frozen for years and lived to tell about it! who else has done that?" ..........uhh Master Chief has.
Cryostasis chambers are designed to be safe, freezing in ice especially with human clothing like Captain America had when he froze is more impressive.
Lol hi did do that tho
@The Androminator Don’t forget about my Fallout 4 Anime Goth girl Succubus OC whose been in Cryosleep
‘MuricanEagle Then again it isn’t anything noteworthy, sure it’s impressive but blunt and piercing damage are completely different things to how much of a cooler temperature you could take. You COULD consider it pain tolerance but wasn’t he unconscious.
Ya and he was frozen way longer and meany more time than caption America
How is it everyone just up and forgot mc flips scorpion tanks and warthogs on the daily. Boy is strong as heck.
Bro the way these are structured to feel like the two fighters talking smack before the fight really does build up the hype 😂
How did master chief loose when he fell from space and survived
Insanity _ it’s based on ignorant voters. Anyone who knows both knows that chief is superior in every way.
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@@topadvertiser1542 noice
An odst coul beat cap
Cap got smash on the ground by Thanos and then was still able to fight, I’m not saying who is better, but captain America isn’t a weak rival for anyone
This is idiotic, Chief is in a completely different weight class
Yeah dude, the armor he’s in weighs over 1000 ponds plus 300 pounds of his body weight. Cap couldn’t punch him and he would have to unload a whole clip into him to deplete his shields (good luck hoping he stands out of cover for that long!) Also, chief’s battle experience far surpasses Captain America. Long story short, it definitely wouldn’t go down like this.
Master chief should’ve won!
Manuel Carballo master chief has survived a fall from space. He can endure way more than cap. Also he has training and weapons from more than 500 years in the future. He must have dozens of ways to take cap down.
Manuel Carballo also I don’t have to listen to you. It is an OPINION.
Manuel Carballo also, his armor can withstand so much more than cap’s suit so it would easily let him turn the battle in his direction.
Much as I love both of em, I'll say that Cap vs Chief in just regular clothing and bare handed is kinda fair. But if you get the Mjolnir involved, Chief easily folds Captain America like a lawn chair
How would that be more fair? Without the shield, cap would be a sitting duck for mc. He can lift a 4 ton tank without his suit... Steve couldn't lift a small sedan. It would be like chief is Gallagher and cap is a watermelon.
Fair? MC killed 3 ODSTs and severely injured one. ODSTs are, no joke, peak physical humans without augmentations. He ran at 20 mph and lifted well over a thousand pounds. He can react in literal nano seconds and knows every martial art known to men. He was 14 when he did these things and he didn't have armor. So MC during what I'm assuming is Halo 2/3 (bc I the armor) far exceeds anything Cap can do.
@@TheLegendaryNomad that's why I said "kinda" cuz those are the most 'balanced' nerfs the Chief can get and yet be able to one or two tap the Captain in the neck/head and just walk away
@@sakib6258 Cap might have to fight Chief as a 9 year old, just before his augmentations.
@@sakib6258 you would need to cripple chief before the fight to nerf him fairly but I still think that wouldn't work out for cpt America xD
when MC armor can stop plasma grenades and flip literal cov corvettes with his pinky cant stop a shield...
If we’re going by Chief’s strength in the Halo lore, the fight should’ve ended at 6:46 when he punched Captain America.
Cap is stronger
@@justgohan6346 .
@@justgohan6346 explain then? Cap punches are not strong enough to make chief feel pain
@@DroppedCuh If Cap punches master chief in the neck then the suit crushes John
@@justgohan6346 if that even happens which would not master chief would just dodge and 1 punch him to the ground of blast him with the rifle or the energy sword to the chest...
They went to a comic convention for the voting contest.
Biased, much?
Go to a gaming convention and things would have likely been different.
He anyway there is a huge dif between gamers and comic nerds. HUGE difference. So I agree wif u
lmao they went to a comic convention and 46% people still managed to vote for chief
@ShadowNny says the one with some ugly af face bragging about his blue helmet guy winning
The votes came online dude
Why’re you all still replying to a comment made six years ago? Lmao
I can't believe this was 7 years ago.. I feel old now
I was waiting the entire time for Cap to tell’em, “i can do this all day” 😂
Chief age 7: what training is going on today
Cap age 7: that kid stole my lollipop
🤔😂
chief age 14: how many odst commandos will I kill barehanded today
cap age 14: I wish people wouldn't bully me all the time
@@Cultureghost Chief age 32: Stuck fighting an alien race.
Cap age 32 (discounting ice nap) saved the multiverse multiple times.
Chris Purolover you misspelled "single handedly saving the entire galaxy from organic annihilation" and "getting his ass repeatedly saved by significantly stronger teammates"
@@Cultureghost Yeah, thats a better way to put it
Good one
Halo Fans, and Cap fans, read this quote from Dr. Halseys Journal ( Creator of the spartan project ). "Number 117 ( Chief ) had an unprecedented string of victory in over 45 victories over 2 weeks in a brutal version of King of the Hill". Walked away with a chipped tooth. Over a dozen broken arms, collarbones and fingers of his OPPONENTS. AT 6 YEARS OLD, John-117 was fucking breaking all of the other kids bones. You don't get it, Master Chiefs bio-augementations have given him "virtually indestructible bones, "dramatically increased reaction speed", incredible strength, stamina, and more. This is all WITHOUT his 1000lb Titanium Alloy power armor with recharging energy shields, motion tracker, thermal vision, and more. Not to mention that he is fucking 7'2"
he may actually be 8 feet based off of a few of the comics and the halo 4 epilogue and prologue
No he is 7'2
But yes 100% agreed master chief would put a fuckin hole in captins face so big he wouldn't have a face! Also do you have the halo reach legendary/limited edition because it has halseys journal in it?
lailaali32 Cap would break Chief's armor to pieces and Thor would laugh that Chief's armor is named Mjolnir!
Rumble Hawk That's not what Urban said at all. The fight is between Captain America and Master Chief. But if you want to compare nemesis', then you should really research the didact.
they ask what facts you got .
what they say : they're cool and strong 😂😂
I vividly remember reenacting this and busting my head open on a window sill, the scar is still there. 😬😬
So freaking Innacurate...if anything...Cap is only as strong as Chief was when he was 14 only and without his armor...
Dude this is based on votes and it has a ALTERNATE ending.
@@user-ec9um8xl2w yeah, and the MCU's fanbase is built on people who don't know shit about comic books
You've never read a comic book in your life, I can tell.
@@rudygould4217 And you don’t know anything about Master Chief. I can tell.
@@rudygould4217 you know nothing about comics or halo. 14 year old master chief is on par with prime captain America. With armor. Cap has zero chance
Why are people saying he's nothing without his suit? Master chief is just as skilled hand to hand if not more.
Afraid not. Chief only knows all military training with some martial arts. Captain America is a MASTER of multiple styles. In addition, Cap is a quicker learner than Chief is. He learns in seconds. Chief takes years.
***** That's not a lie at all, it's 100% true, Cap is a faster learner, and he knows far more martial arts.
+Conner Wolf, Chief would destroy CA, he has better reactions, longer training, survived falling from space, has gear like the Spartan Laser which would destroy CA's shield. Chief is just better.
Hell no! That Spartan Laser is a flea compared to Hulk and Thor. Who both can't break the shield. Vibranium is one tough son of a bitch. Not to mention the Spartan Laser has a draw back, it needs 3 seconds to cool down after every shot. Cap can do a ton in 3 seconds.
Have you seen what a Spartan Laser can do? Watch Halo Legends, Read the Books, and there are many incidents of the Spartan Laser. If you take the armor off of Chief and take the shield off of CA, you will see Chef is better "equipped."
Back 10 years later and it is still absolutely outrageous cap even put up a fight
How can Captain America survive the Plasma Grenade Blast?
Dude, this is too much, the Master Chief has shields. He could have used his combat knife or a Spartan Laser. Also, Captain America couldn't just kill Chief with his shield. Vibranium is not a strong metal, it is just indestructible. The Shield also contains Adamantium, I know but he can't win the match. You cannot match Chief's augmentations and agility with Captain America's shield. Also, you think Chief's MJOLNIR Armor is so weak to break with a hit from Cap's shield. Surely it would be damaged, but not that much that it would kill Chief. This is way too cheating.
Also, forgot to add. Just because Marvel has more fans doesn't mean Cap can win. I'm not joking, i'm a hardcore Marvel fan, but in this regard, no. I would agree if it was Chief Vs Iron Man Hulkbuster, 'cause that's true, Iron Man would obviously win.
Still, great video.
Sharan Marepally lol dude seriously if your a marvel fan you should know for a fact that caps shield absorbs kinect energy and is INDESTRUCTIBLE .further more as you see cap used strategy seeing ass he couldn't physically hurt mc so he used his own weapon against him. If hulk can't break caps shield (hulk is a omega level character of 100+ton weight class) what makes you think it would have no problem cutting off mc's head?
I know that, Cap's shield is made of Vibranium and Adamantium, but I am saying that he pointed the shield away when the Plasma Grenade exploded, so he should be instanlty vaporized.
Rainbow Echo Only broken by high level beings. Beings that can manipulate molecular structures. All the beings who have broken Cap's shield is far beyond Chief's capabilities. Thanos, The Serpent, Odinforce, Ultron - Chief's nowhere near any of that. Cap's shield won't get broken by Chief. That's fact and it could be a very painful one for HALO fans.
That's what I said
This is fucked. Idk why they make master chief fight like a 300lb wwe star. He is incredibly fast and versatile
And Cap isn't?
Cap slow compared to the guy who kicked tartarus arse
The chief is mechanically and chemically enhanced to fight. And cap plus his armor aren't bullet proof I distinctively saw cap get shot 12 times but nothing. Cap has fought for 5 yrs not counting the time he was frozen compared to chief who has been a Spartan since 18 and has continued to live over 62 yrs in the newly coming infinite game and still going
Mic dropped
@@Some-iq3fv cap is mutated into a super soldier he did nothing to earn it he also hasn't been fighting for 5 decades more like 5 yrs
Yeah I know and plus Master Chief has a shield barrier around himself on his armour including on his even skin so if Captain America went for that finishing blow you just hurt himself more than it hurt Master Chief
Master Chief, with his armor is 1300 lbs lol. He has the same strength as captain America I imagine and he himself has been augmented with a reduction in lactic acid if I remember right.
Chief is WAY stronger than Cap
MC is way stronger compare cpt America struggling to lift a car and master chief flipping tanks like nothing with out his suit and well captain America is a pretty tough nut but chief is in every way superior not only strength also in tactics , reflexes , speed and more
Realistically, Master Chief should have won hands down with by at least the 3rd punch, if not the first 2. Both may be super soldiers, but comparing Spartan II training and enhancements ever since they were children with addition to the suits (That have shields might I add) and further increase mobility, MC would not have been nearly as sluggish as he should have been. If you read the book "Fall of reach" it even shows how he felt like things were falling slower or moving slower because of his insane reaction speed, and single highhandedly took down 2 ODST (Orbital Drop Shock Troopers) in a little boxing arena almost killing them, if you don't know, ODST are extremely elite and have achieved the nickname Hell Divers and a couple other names (I mean seriously, these guys make the modern day veteran marine's look like recruits)... CA does not have the same experience as MC even though he is a formidable opponent... It is like Halo 5 when there is a fist fight scene between Locke and Chief, Locke is a spartan IV (AKA a safer and weaker version but it allows for more Spartans) and Chief is a Spartan II... the first Punch from chief should have broken Locke's neck if not the second hit destroying his ribs. Furthermore, CA doesn't even have the armor to take a hit like that from chief in the first place.... [Extra fun things] Chief has fallen from space in every halo game he is in I believe, and he has also earned the title of Reclaimer from the forerunners and Demon from the covenant.
This is not hating against Captain America, I am just giving out reasons on why the fight went the wrong way. I like Captain America, but cmon, this is the Chief we are talking about... "Spartans Never Die, They are only missing in action"
EDIT:
Did I forget to mention that Chief wears a multi-ton suit? Its called inertia haha.... thats cute guys.....
He actually took down 4 ODST's in the boxing ring, and ODST's have enhancements that give them strength, speed, and durability greater than an average soldier, and John destroyed them all under five seconds all, and he wasn't even trying.
Dr. Julian Robotnik Well, then even more proving the point that Master Chief should have won hands down..
I agree, I'm just saying even without his suit John still out matches Rogers.
Dr. Julian Robotnik The only reason Captain America won and the fight lasted longer than 10 seconds is because people would have cried and complained. and some Bias.
Agreed. Fanboys will be fanboys, tho...
1. How did Steve survive that fall without using his shield to absorb the impact?
2. What was Cortana doing that entire fight?
3. Why was John taking cover when his shield was designed to deflect small arms fire like Steve's pistol?
4. John's reaction time and strength would allow him to catch Steve's shield and throw it back faster than he could recognize.
5. Steve maxes at 1200 lb. Care to tell us how he cut through a Titanium Nanocomposite bodysuit?
6. When thrown, the gaseous plasma begins to ionize to a degree such that if it comes into contact with a vehicle or individual, the plasma will start to burn into the surface and adhere until its detonation. Steve's shield wouldn't melt from this plasma, thus it would not be able to stick to his shield
As much as I love and respect Steve, John is better, even without his armor.
Strength and running speed
In halo Glassland, Senior Chief Petty Officer Franklin Mendez stated that it was impressive the a FULLY SUITED Spartan can go from 0 to 60 mph almost instantly, where as Cap peaks at 49 mph and needs to build up speed first. John, after first obtaining his augmentations, was noted at 34.2 mph, 27 Halo universe years ago.
Steve is capable of benching up to 1200 lbs. John, after first receiving his augmentations, was capable of lifting three times his body weight. This would put him at originally lifting 861 lbs without armor. This capability is augmented by 5 in the armor, putting his max, in armor, at 4305 lb. Chief Petty Officer Franklin Mendez states after the augmentations that the SPARTANs will only get better as they adjust to the augmentation. After 27 years, we have no idea what his strength and speed are like, as it has never been explored in the novels since, though I don't imagine it to exceed Steve's max while he is outside the armor. If this is true, that would put him around a 6000 lb max
On his first mission, after receiving his augmentations, John ripped open an elevator shafts foot and a half thick steel doors, without his armor. This strength would require much more than 861 Lb, I would think, no?
Steve could not penetrate the armor even if he wanted to. His strength is nowhere enough to penetrate a Titanium Alloy Outer Shell over a Titanium Nanocomposite Bodysuit.
Steve's standard shield is Vibranium; a metal that absorbs kinetic energy. Combined with Steve's strength he cannot crack the armor and regenerating shields of a man who survived re-entry, then jumped off, and fell 2KM, and survived without a scratch and is capable of beating a Brute in hand-to-hand combat.
Brutes can rip apart hunters, the walking tanks that can shrug off a Warthog (70000 lb with a max speed of 78mph) crashing into them and wielding an arm mounted gun that shoots plasma hot enough to melt said Warthog.
John wrestled against one and won, all while having as Dr. Halsey described: "Burns, brain damage, fractures, and internal bleeding", and him stating: "I'm fine". After his fight with the Brute (in which he was injured further) he went on to destroy the Unyielding Hierophant, the events of Halo 2 and receiving an even better version of his armor.
Experience and Combat capabilities
616 is the main continuity in Marvel, and it has been stated that Steve was frozen in 1945, and revived in modern times, thus it's more or less a continuity rule, that Cap was thawed out [whatever the current year is] minus 5 years.
That however, makes no sense, seeing as in 2009s (4 years ago) Captain America#600, we see his identicard signed by Bill Clinton, meaning he was revived at least as early as 1993, giving him at a more realistic time of a maximum of 25 years, whereas John had 8 years of the most excruciating mental and physical military training the UNSC could give him and his fellow Spartans, and over 27 years as a Spartan constantly fighting armies of creatures his equal and superior in some form.
John also has war experience, not only fighting the Covenant, but also human insurrectionists. He too has fought a wide assortment of enemies, and has proven a tactical genius in his own right, having lead his Spartans on several successful missions against the covenant, before receiving Cortana; who has been shown to be a part of this fight, and did nothing.
On the battlefield, Cortana is able to gather data from local sources (including the Covenant battlenet) and improvise effective battle strategies. John acknowledged her value of providing "intel support in an operation where there had been no reconnaissance." Her efficiency for planning has helped John and others in many life or death situations.
While Steve has a multitude of martial arts under his belt, John's speed, cqc training, and near even strength put him a bit above Cap, even without his armor. With? It's not even a fight. Besides, we have no idea what sort of hand-to-hand combat training they teach in the UNSC. The modern Marines MCMAP draws influences from several disciplines including boxing, jujitsu, judo, sambo, krav maga, karate, aikido, eskrima or arnis, hapkido, taekwondo, kung fu, and kick boxing. If that still stands, it would no doubt put him above Steve due to his reaction time and strength. However, we have no idea what kind of cqc training they have in the 25th century
Reaction time
Johns reaction time outside of his suit is 20 milliseconds (.02 seconds), thus things to him, often seem in slow-motion in combat scenarios (for gameplay purposes they did not implement this as most of the game would be far too easy if everything was as slow as molasses.) This affords him speed that far exceeds dodging bullets, and is amplified by 5 in his armor, putting him at 4 milliseconds (.004 seconds), far exceeding gunfire at point blank range. Cortana is also capable of linking her consciousness with a SPARTAN-II through the Spartan's armor and neural interface, allowing her to enhance the performance of the armor and communicate directly to the Spartan's mind. Doing so is described as "cold mercury" seeping through the Spartan's brain, and brings their reaction time to near-instantaneous levels.
Steve's reflexes border on superhuman level. His reaction speed is stated to be 20 kph (this makes no sense as that measures velocity, not time), which makes it possible for him to dodge gunfire even in point blank range from multiple gunners at the same time. Though, usually by the time they realize they missed, he has taken them out making it hard to calculate a continuous hail of gunfire
But, what about Cap's bulletproof shirt? You mean that same bulletproof that stopped that sniper round to his gut? Okay.
John catches the shield and punches through Steve with over two tons of strength. Game Over, John wins
Tell me how Cap wins just because he has saved the world a few times. Every mission John has succeeded in, John either stopped or delayed the destruction of a world, thus, he has saved many worlds.
The only times he himself felt he ever failed, was after the augmentations, when many of his fellow Spartans either died, or just incapable of active field duty because of the danger of the augmentations, Cortana's seeming death, and likely the event in New Phoenix
"Cap beat the Hulk"
You're talking about that Ultimate Marvel(universe-1610) Cap vs Hulk, right? That cap had different abilities. He actually better in almost every way than the 616 Steve. Look it up and compare them. Can you tell me how with 4 tons of strength, he was capable of breaking the nose of a creature that shrugs off tanks shells? Writers.
"Cap beat Iron Man" First fight, he lost in 5 hits. Second fight he was assisted by The Vision.
"His Vibranium shield is indestructible!" Actually, it's not. There are limits to the capacity of the energy that can be stored, and although the exact limitations are not yet known, there have been a few examples. One such instance was when the oil conglomerate Roxxon discovered that a small island in the South Atlantic had a foundation composed of vibranium. Due to this, Roxxon found it necessary to destroy the island and so blew it up with bombs. Unable to absorb the force of the explosions, the vibranium was destroyed, but it did succeed in entirely absorbing the sound made by the explosion, preventing damage to the surrounding area. John wouldn't be able to destroy it, but he could just rips Steve's arm off while he has the shield equipped
"Cap beat Thanos"
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I respect Steve, but so many fellow Cap fans seem to know little to nothing about John. Every mission he has been sent on, he as succeeded despite it being what even he should not be capable of accomplishing. As Halsey put it" Your mistake is seeing Spartans as military hardware. My Spartans are humanity's next step…Our destiny as a species. Do not underestimate them. But most of all, do not underestimate… him."
It's stupid how many Cap fans also think John is an emotionless gun runner that is only capable of doing what he is told
The personality of John is explored much more deeply in the books than the games. This is in order that players can more easily project their own personalities onto John-117.
As a child, John strove to win at any situation, at all costs. This seems to have been a part of his character even prior to his conscription to the Spartan program, as he pushed himself to win at any game he played, including chess, gravball or King of the Hill.
As his career progressed, he transformed his desire to achieve personal victory to a desire to achieve victory for his squad and, by extension, humanity as a whole.
John is tenacious to complete any mission at hand, and often disregards his personal safety in order to win. Indeed, he has often emerged victorious from situations many would consider impossible.
Though even a Spartan is not devoid of fear, John simply acknowledges it and puts it aside, while never openly showing it. He is not shy about expressing caution, however, as shown in his first encounter with the Gravemind.
John is generally stoic and taciturn, but not devoid of a sense of humor. He often makes dry remarks about the situation at hand, but this seems to be more frequent when interacting with Cortana than anyone else, such as other Spartans.
John is also known as a man of his word and will strive to keep any promise he makes, even at great personal risk. As he was forced to leave Cortana behind on High Charity, John promised to come back for her after dealing with the Prophet of Truth. Cortana chided him not to make a promise when he knew he couldn't keep it. However, despite incredible odds, John did keep his promise, as he fought his way through the Flood into High Charity to retrieve her. Upon finding her, Cortana was in a weak and damaged state. Nearing rampancy, John-117 told her, "You know me. When I make a promise…" to which Cortana replied "You keep it." This encouragement gave her the strength to compose herself after enduring the mental tortures of the Gravemind.
John holds great personal respect for his trainer and mentor Chief Petty Officer Mendez, as well as Dr. Halsey, who he considers a mother-like figure. He appears to deny Halsey's claims about his extraordinary luck at several points in the Halo Legends episode "The Package." His luck borders on what could be superhuman levels in the Marvel universe
In a strange twist of fate, one of John's closest friendships was with the construct Cortana, an artificial intelligence "born" from the mind of Dr. Halsey herself. Cortana was initially assigned to him for his mission to capture the Covenant Prophets. Despite some initial hesitation towards working with an AI out of fear of conflicting directives, John and Cortana quickly formed a formidable team and John realized quickly that Cortana would be a great help instead of a liability. The two's relationship evolved from a partnership to a close friendship over the course of Halo: Combat Evolved, due both the duration of the mission and the life-or-death situations they struggled through. During their adventures, John showed absolute trust in Cortana, believing in her even when Lord Hood was unsure of her reliability, being willing to trust her enough to risk Earth on her word that she had a way to stop the Flood. The two also had similar personalities: they both had a propensity to blow things up, with John commenting he wasn't sure which one of them was better at it. The pair also tended to enjoy executing high risk plans. After Cortana explained to John his strategy to use a disabled bomb to blow up a Covenant Carrier was crazy, he offered to leave her behind. Instead, she quipped, "Unfortunately for us both, I like crazy."
When Cortana begins to go rampant, John becomes desperate to find a way to save her. Her absolute loyalty to him is shown when she restrains the Ur-Didact to save him, telling The Didact when he asks why she's helping humanity "I'm not doing this for mankind," showing she's helping out of loyalty to John. Cortana sacrifices herself to save John and he is clearly devastated by her "death," though he gets to say a goodbye to her in which she can finally touch him, something she has always wanted to do.
Although John has difficulty understanding the 'undisciplined' lifestyle of civilians, he is fiercely protective of their lives and humanity as a whole. The mass slaughter of civilians at the hands of the Covenant was enough to drive even the stoic John into a cold rage. After the massacre of Draco III, John and his Spartans remained on-site until every Covenant soldier responsible for the atrocity was dead.
John is known to show an exceptional care for soldiers under his command, while at times viewing them as a liability rather than an asset (more out of fear and concern for them than for himself).
By 2552, after his experiences on Halo, John acknowledged to Corporal Locklear that, armor and enhancements aside, there was little difference between a 'normal' soldier and himself. This is not to say that John was previously without compassion. During the Battle of Installation 04, when searching for the survivors of the Pillar of Autumn, a Marine named Fitzgerald was wounded by a Grunt with a Needler. John-117 retrieved a first aid kit and expertly treated the wound, taking time to ask the Marine if he was alright.
By 2552, most members of the UNSC held "John-117" in complete awe, even among his Spartan comrades. His exploits and prowess quickly made him a legend in his own time, and his mere presence on a battlefield was enough to inspire the hope of victory regardless of the odds.
Despite his life of military indoctrination, John is not entirely submissive to command. On multiple occasions John has directly disobeyed protocol, and even superior officers that contradicted what he personally thought was right.
On the UNSC Gettysburg during Operation: FIRST STRIKE, Dr. Halsey decided to test his morality by giving him two data chips, one containing information regarding Avery Johnson's immunity to the Flood, which would surely lead to his dissection by ONI with little chance of replicating his immunity. The other was missing this data, and John originally planned to sacrifice his friend in accordance with directive, but realized that one man can make a difference, and crushed the complete record into dust.
Later in 2557 when John and Cortana made their way aboard the UNSC Infinity, after Cortana's rampant outburst surprising everyone in the room, Captain Andrew Del Rio acted on his resentment of John-117 for questioning his orders to flee Requiem and subsequently ordered that Cortana be destroyed. Before Commander Lasky could retrieve her, without hesitation John did so first, displaying his unflinching loyalty to Cortana, and that not even the UNSC would stop him from doing everything in his power to save her. Del Rio personally ordered John to hand her over, but he refused, responding, "no, sir." After the infuriated Captain ordered his arrest, Commander Sarah Palmer refused to act, and John promptly left Infinity in a Pelican Gunship to stay behind on Requiem to stop the Didact.
As Halsey stated: "Your mistake is seeing Spartans as military hardware."
He is in fact capable of emotion, logic, and will even refuse a direct order that he feels is wrong. In some ways, he is more human than most people in this world are today.
I'm a fast typer, and this is a fight my friends and I have discussed several times before. I have read Cap for eighteen years. I know him well enough to say he would lose this fight to John.
All the facts in the world change nothing, the fans have voted
Yeah but the problem is these fights are based on fan vote and not on facts ,
I totally agreed with you friend, but apperently there aren't enough master chief fans to side with him. I bet if the new movies hadn't come out master chief would have won, due to more people voting for him.
The votes are up for 4 hours at most. There wasn't enough time because they are rushing these out one after the other
Coming back to this video after reading some of the first halo books just made me change my mind on who the winner would have been.
I first watched this when I was 6 and grew up playing halo 3. Almost 10 years later and this video is still goated
this thing is inaccurate
sure master chief weighed 300 pounds, but you forgot the extra 1000 pounds that the suit gives him.
even if cap tackled him, his strongest punch wouldnt do anything to chief
Edit: wow thanks for all the likes
Yes
@Jacob Hanson a metric ton is more than 2000 pounds, so I think you mean he can lift several metric tons of metal.
Master chef is the RC cola of supersoldiers in a dollar tree ripoff of an ironman suit, cap has thrown down with The Hulk, who can and has held up a several BILLION TON MOUNTAIN, so yeah, he can bitchslap this punk in an expensive motocross helmet
random guy agree. If it’s a comic character their feats are going to be nuts
And cap is nothing like a god. So that means chief will destroy cap. Case closed.
Okay, I don't even play Halo, so I don't even like Master Chief - in fact, I like Captain America more - but even I know that win was bullshit. Master Chief would *FUCKIN' DESTROY* Captain America.
Harold Davidson You obviously don't know Cap
nA10K Thank You!
Because he would. Master Chief would've dodged his shield at the end.
e5herm9n Caps shield literally cuts through the air leaving minimal wind resistance. Soooo... no.
I know right he would tear him limb from limb
Just coming back to check this vid again.
1:10 I laughed so hard when he said cap could fall from Great hights cause seriously have they forgot that chief literally fell from space and crashed landed only to get back up?
Kinda unrealistic, Chief has 2 layers of titanium armour and suit with a shield. That could've easily prevented Cap's shield from stabbing him in the neck.
Vibranium is stronger than titanium, but i really think Chief should have won
Trust me the real chief wouldn't lie there and let himself die he'd push captain America off of him and kill him also chief has 10000000000000000000 percentage more luck than Captain America
@@Aldrenz yes and steel is stronger than wood but when throw it at a tree it bounces off, see how that works?
@ His shield has always worked against all forms of melee, even being able to tank an energy sword directly
@@doomguy8699 the real chief 😂😂😂 like he’s a person that exists
Watch the fight in 2x thats how a spartan would fight if this was real
More like 16x if real with Spartan times
Remember I’m not saying cap would win but cap would fight way faster as well
@@limpfootlong5302 comic cap would be doing 40x!! But movie cap would be doing less than 6x speed in full effort
Limp Foot Long Spartans run average 34 mph
EXACTLY, with lightning speed reflexes, they made him look week, when in reality cap America is like a baby, they said he got genetic mods, SO DOES CHEIF, it’s all wrong I think I’m sick
While I'm mad that Master Chief lost when he's literally 3x better than Captain America in every way, I understand that this based on votes AND there are two endings, and both fights are awesome.
I love that they just like didn’t have the budget to train cap enough for this to look reasonable. Cap would be doing tons of flips and dodges that they clearly didn’t train for here
You have to love Cap. First class American superhero. But Master Chief all the way for the win.
Andy C No way have u even seen endgame Masterchief would be smashed
Ok Oliver. Cap wouldn’t have Thor’s hammer in the masterchief battle. So endgame has NOTHING to do with is battle. So that reference = 0. Masterchief still wins
@@darthcleaner9758 Do you even play Halo? Master Chief survived a fall from space. Cap can't do that, can he?
@@darthcleaner9758 Endgame doesn't count. That was really recently, and Mjolnir doesn't belong to Captain America, it belongs to Thor. If we are including Endgame, Captain America would just be a shriveled old man, not a super soldier.
@@darthcleaner9758 Bro just no...
This is the most inaccurate thing I’ve ever seen in my life
Master chief knowing him wouldve already known all of Captain Americas feats with Kortanas help & brought an energy sword to combat Capt Americas shield. Also he can turn invisible which he wouldve used to get the drop on him & toss a plasma grenade. This fight dragged on WAY longer than it really would've.
Well they base their fights on votes so
PANDA 357 yeah they are biased as hell
These people don’t understand how fast master chief really is and how strong he is
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Think we forgot about Master Chief faster reaction time so in that fight he could’ve dodged every attack easily
I used to watch these as a kid it’s crazy it’s already 7 years old
Master chief has future equipment and has iron armour. Why did captain America win? Because he is popular :P
***** lol was that even masterchief?
he is basically a soldier from the future and cap is a soldier from the past with some advantages
yep, and if you havent noticed these are popularity based matches
Try titanium dude
Crafty Fruit masterchief has an energy shield that would protect him from hands, guns, and vibranium.
They state that the Captain is 240 lbs... Chief is 1,000. Captain can fall from great heights, but can he survive reentry to the Earth's atmosphere from space like the Chief? He has a healing factor, but Chief also has rechargeable energy shields and biofoam to help him heal from injuries. Not to mention that Master Chief has enough strength to flip tanks, possesses superhuman reflexes and speed, is a tactical genius, has better weaponry, is equipped with advanced AI, and all that good stuff... The Captain is strong, and has faced some godlike foes, but in this situation, he just can't win.
Agreed captain America may be hard to kill but he can be and would die from doing most thing master chief does. master chief should not have lost
+Bragoon nerd
+Durgenheim I dont care how big and bad someone is, once you get control of and or damage the neck / throat area they are done for.
Vam actually the nade hit his chest not his neck and it even shows his chest was fucked up afterwards but even without the neck protection captain still couldn't push master over like tht because when ur 800-850 pounds lighter it's almost impossible
+edgebrostube Captain America can lift a Maximum weight of 1200 lbs.
I used to watch this as a kid. Mid class i just had to try to get back to this video.
8 years later and I still remember how little sense this made.
I forgot what this channel was called, but I do remember them making a fight between cap and master chief and that’s how I found it again lol
I am sorry but the chief would win remember he has his armor and even if he looses it and his gun and makes is a fist fight he is stronger the captain Merica he armor is 1000 pounds and he runs around like he has a t shirt on then he can pick up covenant elites which are like 1000 pounds plus they to have armor plus the captain jumps out of a plane with a parachute the chief jumps from like the atmosphere and just lands and walks away and he doesnt use anything he is just a better soldier. Oh and he takes down entire armys.
It takes more than strength to be considered the better soldier. It takes heart, something Cap trumps Chief in by miles.
whats the point of heart when chief rips it out ;)
TH4L3G1TK1NG Heart is what got him to wield Mjolnir (Thor's hammer, not that knockoff Mjolnir Chief calls an armor). What's the point of calling it Mjolnir when it's inferior?
What's the point of the armor when Cap breaks it down? Not 'if' but WHEN Cap breaks it down.
no no its if trust me
there just top class patriots who cant take the legitimate fact that the cap would not stand a chance
Isn't Master chief suppose to have superhuman strength and can kill someone in one punch? Why aren't his punches doing anything to Cap?
america has super human strength too
the spartans are all super human soldiers just like captain america. To make it better they get put into these crazy suits that amplifies their strength as well.
Captain america is a super soldier, a punch from master chief isn't gonna hurt a lot
Zak Chabanthom Actually yes it would. The first hit master chief put on cap would have ended him right then and there.
Cory Villarreal Not really. Cap's taken hits from people as strong or stronger than Chief and come out just fine.
6 years later and i’m still watching this
6 years later and I still notice how dumb this is
I like how Cap's helment actually has wings rather than the painted wings like the Mcu Captain america.
This gave me haunting flashbacks of the Chief and Locke fight
Jack Mandura yeah this fight is bull
Terribly made?
Yooo I just saw that before this I’m dead 🤣🤣 they both did cheif wronggggg
Ok, Locke without his suit would be a fair fight for movie cap
117 likes lol
Think we're forgetting that Master Chief has titanium bones
Caps shield is vibrainum so stronger than steel ._.
@Fernando Luna uhhh what no chief would catch it da fuq
@Fernando Luna no
@disorted Jerry his energy shielding would take the hit, not his armor.
@@ryangamingoo142 no its titanium bones not steel
have an idea for the next video MasterChef halo vs dumsleer
You see, there’s master chief when you play as him, and then there’s the master chief that’s lore accurate
They asked literally guys who don’t know who Master Chief is lmao
I know this is fan voted and I love marvel but Captain America would get destroyed by Master Chief.
I, 2nd this bs. The Master Chief would hurt Captain America, badd!
exactly
Wow thanks
ikr there's no way he beat master chief
+Landen Jones that and master chief's armor weighs a great amount and is made of TITANIUM
Bro survived a fall from a plane by doing the super hero landing💀💀💀
It's really disappointing they don't make videos like any more I remember I was in middle school when they stop making videos like this
BS!!!!!!!! I hate how these things are just votes on who they like better. There is NO way Captain America would have won this. I like Cap, but Chief would just destroy him.
***** You kidding me? The Master Chief is superior in basically every way. First off, he wouldn't have even been knocked at all by Cap's shield because of his energy shields, Chief can run over 50 mph, flip tanks without even trying, his bullets are HVAP(High Velocity Armor Piercing) rounds, meaning they would blast right through Cap's armor. Also, Chief with one well placed shot could remove the Captain's brain from his head, and deposit it on the ground.
you do realize that energy shields are designed to resist energy weapons, this is why the covenant started using human ballistic weaponry against Spartans, and such the shield hits a lot like a bullet which do work against the Spartans.
Not saying That chief would lose out and out but it does mean the cap isn't just, outdated and weaker then the Spartan.
Actually, whenever he gets hit by anything, that yellow shimmer you see whenever he gets shot by anything, whether it be projectiles, energy or plasma, that's the energy shields. And, if you think that they wouldn't resist projectiles, well, guess what, it wouldn't work against plasma either because TECHNICALLY the plasma is a projectile, like, in essence its a super stinking hot water gun. And also, when did the covies ever start using human weapons? The only time I know of was when Arbiter was with the UNSC in Halo 3. AND to top that off, even if the shield did somehow get through that, it wouldn't have enough force behind it to even come close to cutting through the titanium nonocomposite woven thread under armor, with the gel layer there MEANT to keep the spartan safe in extreme impacts (such as falling from space......twice), and the Polymerized Lithium Nibocene Layer which acts as a artificial layer of muscle to enhance the spartan's already enhanced strengths, endurance, speed, agility and everything else.
Plus, Cap actually is weaker. Maybe not outdated, but weaker, yes. Chief can flip a 170 ton tank, basically with one hand.
...no the energy shield were reverse engineered from covenant tech that does a great job blocking bullets especially on legendary lol but also have you play multiplayer H3? AR doesn't exactly shred shields like a plasma rifle does... I would say it's the opposite, plasma is a hard counter against energy shielding
First of all........ Captain america has fought Galactus, and survived. Also master chief is from a video game, Captain america can destroy iron-man, and iron man can beat master chief, so captain could easily beat chef. Captain america is the strongest unpowered man, and has taken down Thanos. Captain America also has one of the greatest stories ever. Captain America has been around for 70 years, master chief..... not even close. I mean how could people vote for someone who is not even as close to being as popular as captain
They also forgot his energy shields that recharge and most standard unsc ammunition are armor pirceing fmjs or high explosive rounds and to think neither chief nor cortana thought to just spray him in the legs
if chief had an energy sword, he would have won instantly
Well does cap use nukes in the comics? No but master uses a Covernet that is more than likey 3x stonger.
mozart mario chief survived a nuke so HA HA!!! Chief could kill cap in one second
mozart mario you can't it's fused on when chief is on missions and training
mozart mario master chief would still win because he is stronger, heavier, has metal plated bones, and has better hand to hand combat training
TheFabioOrchedella
Let's reboot this challenge and pit the Chief against Superman. Believe me, it would be a closer match than you would think.
How so?
This is from 2014 but It's almost like the same from civil war when CB throws sko grenade to cap shield and cap throws it away.
I think everyone in the comments seems to agree that Master Chief John 117 would have won this fight. Quickly. Easily. And then would have tea-bagged Cap.
Exactly. First of all master chief has regeneration also. Second captain America would of lost if he was the original captain.
Tbagings the best! They should of made a just for laughs or a real video of master chief defeating cap and tv aging his face lol!
Tagging damn keyboard!
Let me point out a few things
Master Chief has:
1.Been training since he was six
2.Can run 50mph
3.Has fallen from space and lived
4.His suit is nearly indestructible and has regenerating shields
5. Has better augmentations than Captain America
6. Defeated 3 separate armies on different occasions
7. Saved all of Earth 3 times
8. Prevented galactic genocide. Twice.
9. The weapons that he carries can easily penetrate his shield.
10. Your video is 100% invalid
Don't believe what I say? Watch Screw Attack's Master Chief vs. Doom Guy video.
Point number 9 is dead wrong. That point being wrong puts a lot in Cap's corner. Point number 1 doesn't matter cause Wolverine has even more years of fighting than Chief and has lost to Cap. Point number 4 isn't really a threat because the metals in Caps shield are more durable than the one in Chiefs suit. As for the regenerating shields, they can be broken and they take a few seconds to regenerate. Lastly, I've seen that screw attack episode, I agree Doom Guy would lose to Chief but not Cap.
Also, I read the first two Halo books. Just throwing that out there
Eamonn Kernahan So you read the books. Whether you read them or not, it doesn't change the fact that Chief's armor is titanium alloy. Is that a strong metal? Yes, it might be the best in Chiefs universe but in the Marvel universe, there exists metals that trump titanium by a mile. Metals such as Adamantium and Vibranium. Vibranium is in Caps shield. Ironmans armor is harder than titanium and Cap managed to break it down with the shield.
not to forget his insane amount of luck
Just to say, even Thor's Hammer cant destroy Cap's Shield.
I love this take on the Cap suit, its a modern but sort of grounded realistically
Does he wear a parachute?
Some unknown bad guy from both mcu & dceu
Cap would put up a good fight but realistically chief would definitely win
Damn you really aren't a marvel fan lmaooooo what a disgrace of you having Stan lee as your profile picture.
Gaming 100 he’s right you know. Chief has far superior armor, training, weapons, reflexes, speed and strength. When cap can chuck a tank then maybe he can win
Captain America has all those things except armor
@@banjonatorchannel9377 I'm pretty sure chief can't drink with all the chemicals running through him but yeah in chiefs win he is much more honourable in the win. Mind the tb
Captain won in 2014 only because he has more vote than Master Chief. But in 2019 Captain America will definitely win because he is worthy of Mjolnir
As someone who is well versed in halo lore this just hurts my soul to watch. I mean it when I say there is literally no way captain America would win against Master chief these people need to do a little more research before determining the outcome
It's nothing more than a popularity contest. They literally asked two guys that were wearing shirts with Captain America shields on them who would win in a 1v1 fight.
6:59 Especially this part, that's completely bullshit. Cap's spine would be mush right here.
Take it easy punk
This fight looks kinda cool
Lmfao so many pressed people in the comments till today.
Can't handle seeing your favorite character die on screen? It's a popularity vote meant to be fun numbnuts
I love these
HAHAHAHA This is still as ridiculous as it was when I was in highschool.
Chief literally punches holes into TANKS that neck grab would have decapitated the cap right then
Chief should always win 99% of the time.
Here are some things:
1: he killed an ODST (which to become one takes a lot of shit to accomplish, they are strong etc..) with a single punch at the age of 14
2: he destroyed 500 ships in a mission
3: survive a scorpion tank shell in the chest and stands up like nothing happens
4: he just straight up punched a missile out of the sky
Don't forget his arsenal on what he has as well.
There is a shit tonne more but can't be asked to type XD
He should have won, but not for the reasons you put.
Cap is probably stronger and more nimble than an ODST.
He didn't destroy 500 ships, the gigantic DeathStar-sized battlestation the Covenant conveniently parked next to the fleet did. MC just set the thing to blow.
Wat? Since when? That's bullshit, an M800 Main Battle Tank's shells can definitely penetrate his battlesuit.
That was pretty much all Cortana.
MC would have won because in those opening minutes, Cortana would have guided the autorifle's bullets to either shoot Cap's airship out of the sky while he was still in it or guided them around his shield and shredded his legs when he was running. If he somehow survived until the fistfight started, Chief's reaction time is dozens of times faster than the average human with his battlesuit, he would have caught Cap's first punch and then pulled out his pistol and pop. If Cap somehow got Chief in a hold or a lock, Cortana would have electrified the outside of the armour, frying the Cap.
cannonfodder343 No he should have loses chief could lift 500 pounds when he was 10 and he keeps getting stronger
+cannonfodder343 cap don't go down dat easy son so shredding his isn't an option
Mister Blue
Still a lot harder to fight when you've got dozens of chunks of depleted uranium laced with tungsten in your legs.
Cap's fought Iron Man whose suits make Chief's suit look like it's horribly outdated. You guys should really read comics than say Chief would win because you only know Halo
This captain America is literally exactly like John walker he’s really brutal
No he's not it's close but Spartans are waaay more powerful, Master Chief can also predict what side a coin will.land on while it's spinning
the design of captain America is actually pretty sick
Can't believe I've got to wait a month to see the accurate ending.
aaa no, master chief has a his energy shield.
Excuse tf you
And since when have they stopped melee attacks?
@@DemigodoftheSea long time energy sword sparton loch arbitor punching him
@@shisuzuya5059 Energy shields stop literally none of those.
@@DemigodoftheSea yeah it has u read the comix
@@shisuzuya5059 I doubt you can read at all given your spelling.
And no, I haven't, but the comics are also wildly inconsistent with the core material.
hey just wanted to say that's the best live Captain America costume I've ever seen and I would love love love if you could tell me where you got the chest and shoulder armor. Pleeeeeeeaaase
Wow, this was epic!!!
This is some bullshit. Here's why. I'm ashamed that these guys, and 54% of people, can call themselves nerds.
Master Chief has the strength to flip a TANK like it's nothing. A tank weighs in the TONS. And it's not the armor, it's his solid MUSCLE MASS that allows it. In fact, it's because of the Spartans genetically enhanced frame that they were the only ones able to don the armor at all. Which is another point. This armor can withstand extreme damage. See when they were fist fighting and Cap was going toe to toe in their little virtual recreation? Captain would break every bone in his armor just trying to punch the Chief, healing factor or not, while Chief's armor would take LITERALLY no damage. Chief could just STAND there and the captain would break every bone in his body trying to do some damage with fistcuffs. One punch from Chief would devastate Cap's body.
Same with Cap's shield - it has nothing on the Chief's Shield. It would do about as much damage as if it was made from Styrofoam. The plasma grenade being stuck to the Captain's shield was the only valid point, and even that was invalidated because the plasma grenade is literally plasma weaponry, the shield would melt into nonexistence from a stick. Plasma weaponry isn't the same thing as projectile weaponry. That notwithstand, the shield would have no way of cutting through Chief's armor, shielded or not, let alone piercing both his armor and his neck, which again is reinforced by his own genetically-enhanced muscle mass. It'd be a papercut at worst, Cap just doesn't have the momentum and strength to be able to pierce all that in even 1000 thrusts, let alone just one single thrust.
As for speed and reflex, the Chief far outranks the captain in both. They are both genetically enhanced superhumans, the only difference is the CENTURIES of technological and augmentation advancements between the two.
And galactus, the eater of worlds, has nothing on the combined might of the Covenant armada, also the destroyers of worlds - or the Flood, the bane of every sentient existence in the universe - BOTH of which the chief takes on DAILY.
All that being said, I do give batinthesun props for the extent to which they go to recreate battles
Mohak Bhatt master cheif can lift an elaphant
tanner harmon the vehicle
and MC's skeleton is almost indestructible
Wait a second... Did cap just do a Mastercheif landing? Lmfao he would've died tho
And cap is just slightly upgraded human no way in hell did he block all those bullets. And he's using a pistol! What? why? If these battles have proven anything its that they don't know anything about who they're fighting. Why the fudge did he bring a pistol?
Such a shit fight.
steve phnx Lmfao. No he would not. Your comment making me laugh so much.
wearing armour = being a pussy
Kathleen Beattie his armour weighs 2tons he is not a pussy
I keep replaying chief's death over and over.
They clearly didn't read the Halo books lmao..
1) The Master Chief can run at speeds exceeding 55 km/h or 34.2 mph, has been noted to have briefly ran at around 105 km/h or 65.2 mph during a MJOLNIR MARK V training exercise.
Captain has an average speed of 39 mph but can run up to 55 mph.
2) The SPARTAN-IIs are capable of lifting three times their body weight, and that factors in the weight of their armor as well as the boost it provides them, because let's face it, this fight is happening while the Chief is in his armor. The Master Chief in armor weighs 995 lbs. Triple that would be 2985 lbs.
Captain America can lift 1200 lbs.
3) A SPARTAN-II's reaction time, while impossible to chart accurately, is estimated to be twenty MILLISECONDS. Their reaction times are significantly faster in combat situations or with A.I. assistance. The reaction times of the SPARTAN-IIs are so fast that they are able to think and react faster, and see things happen in slow motion - it is dubbed as "SPARTAN Time".
SPARTAN-IIs are also known for their sharp eyesight being able to virtually see in the dark.
Yes Captain's shield is "indestructible," but that's referring to its durability. Chief could easily rip the shield from him.
Captain America is easily one of my favorite comic book heroes.
However, Master Chief wins with low difficulty. End of story.
Hand to hand Cap with no shield vs Master Chief with no armor would be an amazing fight though. Would still give the edge to Chief considering he sees things in slow motion during fights.
Jake Chappelle I think you forgot something? Chief running up to 65 mph was where he tore his Achilles tendon. And Cap beats Chief hand to hand, hands down. Chief = knowledge of military training + some martial arts, Cap = knowledge of every fighting style + Asgardian combat. Chief sees things in slow motion? So does Spider-Man and Cap beat him at least twice. To grab Cap's shield, he'd have to have the skills to. Considering, Cap is 100 times the fighter Chief ever will be, I don't like Chief's chances. Chief's armor makes him stronger, but Cap is smarter. Even smarter than Cortana when it comes to combat. He out thought a super computer Cache before.
Rumble Hawk I'm sorry but did you just compare master chief to spider man? and I'm pretty sure that cap is not smarter than an AI
Rumble Hawk Well if you think about it if he ran just a little slower than 65 he wouldn't be injuring himself. Spider Man has spidey sense. Doesn't see everything in slow motion when his adrenaline is pumping.
^it's true he could just run a little slower and still be faster than cap.
Jake Chappelle Can't count out the spartan laser for convenant weaponary. Snipers, shields, also duel wielding weapons (halo 2 cover). Not to mention that the spartan laser was not used is appalling. Anyway, Doesn't it mention that at age 12, john 117 beat the crap out of the UNSC's best soldiers the ODST in 5 seconds. *pow pow pow* 2 dead soldiers and another critically injured. With his bare fists
Master chiefs armor is waaayyyy stronger then that hit in the neck
I’m so disappointed why would captain America win master chief suit is way powerful
you didn't take into consideration cheif's energy shield that's built into his armor and isn't the bubble shield. also cheif weighs 1000 pounds with the armor
I’m guessing the people votes who wins before they make it?
*As I find more information about both Captain America and Master Chief, I will keep editing this post.
Ok, usually I don't get into debates like this, but after seeing this video, I just had to put my two cents into this. Sometimes batinthesun/Machinima really gets under my skin (who in their right mind thinks Batman can beat Deadpool?). Now, I realize that these are all fan voted (which is stupid), but you can’t say someone would actually win just by votes. It basically comes down to a popularity contest and it is no different here. So, why am I getting involved into this debate? Well, the biggest reason why is because I am a gamer. And as a gamer, it is my responsibility to play all kinds of video games. Halo is my favorite video game series of all time and Master Chief is my favorite video game character of all time. So, this obviously means I am in his favor. However, I am also a huge fan of Marvel and I think Captain America is a very cool character in the Marvel Universe, so no, I am not going to say Master Chief is simply going to win. Instead, I will be providing facts and statistics for each character to make sure you all know who would actually win.
There are CLEARLY some things wrong with this video for BOTH Master Chief and Captain America:
1. For starters, Captain America can't fall from a plane at that altitude and land safely without a parachute. I don't care if he is a super soldier, he doesn't have the armor Master Chief has and he isn't Wolverine. Plain and simple.
2. I have NEVER seen Captain America use guns and grenades. The only weapon he ever uses is his shield. Captain America is not the kind of person who would attempt to kill someone, so he certainly wouldn't use firearms and grenades.
3. I could have sworn I saw bullets hitting Captain America. I know for a fact he does not have a bullet proof uniform, so I don’t know what is up with that.
4. Captain America doesn't kill no matter what. He "killed" Master Chief at the end, which clearly goes against his character.
5. I don't see the effects of Chief's shields at all. The shields may not keep him entirely safe from Captain America, but they should be able to keep him safe from most of Captain America’s punches and kicks.
6. Cortana only talks to Chief at the beginning of the video. She never talks to him after that, which is certainly not something she would do. After only a minute or two in battle, she would have told the Chief that he needed to get the shield as far away from Captain America as possible and would have provided him with more information on how he could defeat Captain America.
7. Chief wouldn't waste his ammo when Captain America was hiding behind the rock. If anything, Chief would have ceased fire and thrown a grenade to get Captain America out of hiding. All this random gunfire just makes Chief look stupid and certainly doesn't display his actual mastery of weapons and marksmanship.
Those are the things I see wrong with the video (and I am pretty sure there are more that I missed). Now, for the actual debate. My sources for these characters are going to be from the official Marvel Wiki page for Captain America, and the Halo: Fall of Reach book, Halo video games, and Master Chief Wiki page for Master Chief:
Master Chief vs. Captain America (Physical Appearance): Captain America stands at 6’ 2” and weighs 240 lbs. Master Chief stands an entire foot taller than Captain America (7’ 2”) and weighs 995 lbs.
Master Chief vs. Captain America (Strength): Captain America is able to bench press an astonishing 1,200lbs. But, even with his impressive strength, he would still have a difficult time trying to even move Master Chief since he weighs in at just shy of one metric ton! Master Chief on the other hand is at least strong enough to flip a Scorpion Tank, which weighs 66 metric tons (145,505lbs)! Chief is clearly the winner here and would have no problems throwing Captain America around like a rag doll.
Master Chief vs. Captain America (Speed): Captain America can run at speeds of up to approximately 48 kilometers per hour (30 miles per hour) or higher, and has on occasion run a mile (1.6 km) in 73 seconds (49 mph/78 kph) when under stress. Master Chief can run up to 60 mph and can sometimes run even faster when his adrenalin is active. So, Master Chief can basically run 11 mph faster at his lowest level, than Captain America can at his peak.
Master Chief vs. Captain America (Durability): Captian America’s bones and muscles are denser and harder than normal, he can fall from 200ft without discomfort, and he can take blows from beings with low superhuman strength. However, Master Chief IS superhuman, capable of lifting at least 145,000lbs, so Captain America’s durability won’t help him here. Master Chief has unbreakable bones, he was capable of surviving a fall from space, and the Covenant's best weapons simply bounced off his armor. Master Chief will be giving Captain America a run for his money here.
Master Chief vs. Captain America (Reflexes): Captain America has a reaction speed of 20kph, which makes it possible for him to dodge gunfire even in point blank range from multiple gunners at the same time. Master Chief is no pushover either. He has the reaction time of 8 Olympic Athletes due to his augmentations and training in the UNSC programs and his Mjolnir armor has been known to amplify his reflex abilities even further. Captian America has impressive reflexes (which might give the Chief some problems with using firearms), but because Chief has the reflexes of 8 olympic athletes and his armor only furthers that ability, he will probably have the advantage over Captain America when it comes to reflexes.
Master Chief vs. Captain America (Hand-to-Hand Combat): Both Captain America and Master Chief have excellent Hand-to-Hand Combat training and both know many different forms of martial arts. Captain America is probably more used to Hand-To-Hand Combat, he knows more martial art styles than Master Chief, and Hand-To-Hand Combat is his main method of attack. He also had a huge role in World War II and has faced great oppositions. Master Chief on the other hand, was trained since he was six, he killed three ODST's (a step down in rank from Spartans), and critically injured another, all at the same time, with his bare hands, when he was 14 (he also wasn't wearing any armor). He has described grunts and jackals as being nothing more than "mosquitoes." Master Chief is usually more suited to ranged combat, but from what I can tell, he would still be a very huge threat in Hand-To-Hand Combat. The more I think about it, the more I think that Chief would get the upper hand here as well, because he has had many more years of experience than Captain America in Hand-To-Hand Combat and considers aliens who are pretty much the same size as Captain America "Mosquitoes."
Master Chief vs. Captain America (Other): Both Captain America and Master Chief have enhanced senses, high intelligence levels, excellent vehicle driving skills, and both have a strong will to win.
Master Chief vs. Captain America (Arsenal): The only thing Captain America has going for him here is his shield. However, his shield is indestructible and cannot be broken or penetrated. Again, I have NEVER seen Captain America use firearms or grenades. The Marvel wiki says that in desperate situations, he will use firearms, but he prefers not to use them. I can guarantee though that he would not bring firearms and explosives with him into this fight, especially since he relies mostly on his shield as a weapon. Master Chief on the other hand has no problem using firearms and explosives against opponents. Not only that, he is a MASTER of every type of weapon there is and he is a MASTER marksman, not only with UNSC weapons, but with Covenant weapons as well.
Master Chief also has Cortana on his side. She is able to process information at incalculable speeds and provides Master Chief with all the information he could need, including Captain America’s weakness (the loss of his shield). Master Chief also has advanced motion tracking so he will know where Captain America is at all times and will know how to approach him.
Again, I really like Captain America. I think he is an awesome Marvel character and I think he definitely deserves to be the leader of the Avengers. But, when it comes down to it, the only way I can see Captain America winning is if he keeps his shield with him at all times and can somehow break through Chief’s armor (which definitely won’t be as easy as the video depicts). Even then, the odds of him beating Master Chief are very slim. Yes, I know Captain America has fought powerhouses like Hulk, but most of his opponents don’t have the Hand-to-Hand Combat abilities and reflexes that Master Chief possesses. Not only that, Master Chief is clearly faster, stronger, taller, heavier, and far more durable, than Captain America. All Master Chief has to do is knock Captain America’s shield away from him and the fight is over. I just can’t see that Captain America can win against a guy who is hundreds of years ahead of his time and practically has all of the advantages. You can argue against this all you want, but it is clear that Master Chief deserves the win. I know that I went into great detail about this, but it needed to happen. Now, we can all see who really is the superior super soldier.
You arent up to date with Marvel. Ultimate captain america which was used in this video, does in fact use a gun which in fact is a holstered pistol which was depicted very accurately, he does have a bullet proof uniform, and in fact he does have superhuman abilities, and has a heeling factor (not as good as wolverines and deadpools) but a decent one none the less. In fact in the Ultimate story line he does in fact take a few bullets without armor and keeps fighting relentlessly. The Ultimate Cap can in fact bend steal with his own hands, run at 49 mph, have reflexes far superior than majority of the superheroes in Marvel. So in fact, the Captain America in this video could very well defeat MC. He would knock out MC's over shield with a direct hit with his shield (his shield has sent the hulk flying) and then its a tough tough tough fight, but without the over shield, I dont see MC, beating Cap, simply because of Cap's hand to hand experience fighting people such as the Hulk, Thor, knocking out Galactus, and many more. Cap could decapitate MC with his shield after MC's over shields are out. The Hulk mirrors MC in build, but is stronger, and actually gets stronger the longer he fights! Captain America fought him to a stand still. It would be a bloody fight and the victor would be extremely battered and beat, but Cap has the super abilities, the skill and the his shield, and with all those things, I can very well see Cap win this extremely close fight.
Cody K I didn't know there was an Ultimate Captain America. If that is the case, then why is the title just plain old Captain America instead of Ultimate Captain America? For those of us who don't know about Ultimate Captain America, that would be very confusing. But, besides the point, even Ultimate Captain America doesn't sound like he can beat Master Chief.
I went to the official Marvel website regarding Ultimate Captain America and didn't see anywhere that he had guns, grenades, a bullet proof uniform, the ability to bend steel, and run at 49 mph. I went to a non Marvel wikipedia page and saw a few of the things you described, but wikipedia is usually not that reliable. You will have to provide a valid link for me to believe that he actually carries weapons other than his shield and that he has those powers.
If I am just missing something and Ultimate Captain America does indeed have everything you listed, it still doesn't seem like it would matter.
Ultimate Captain America would still be slower than Master Chief. If Ultimate Captain America could actually run at 49 mph, Master Chief would still run faster at 60 mph.
Ultimate Captain America would still be weaker than Master Chief. The non Marvel Wikipedia told me that the strongest thing he could do was catch a tree that could crush a car. Master Chief can flip a 66 metric ton tank. Unless the tree is heavier than 66 metric tons (most trees aren't even close to being that heavy), Ultimate Captain America is still weaker than Master Chief.
"His shield could knock out Master Chief's overshield." Master Chief has the reaction time of 8 Olympic Athletes and his armor enhances that even further. I think Cap would be very lucky to hit him with his shield.
"Captain America fought Hulk to a standstill." Yeah, that might be, but Hulk doesn't have very good reflexes and he is not that good at running without building momentum. Hulk is slow and bulky, thus it would be easy for Captain America to get lots of hits. Master Chief has far better reflexes than the Hulk and can sprint to fast speeds immediately. It would be difficult to even touch him.
I agree that Ultimate Captain America could beat Master Chief in Hand-To-Hand Combat. I can also see how a healing factor might help, but if he can't regenerate at the speed of Wolverine and Deadpool, then the healing factor would be useless unless he fled from battle and healed for about a day. But, in the heat of battle, when he is taking blows, the healing factor won't be enough. Even with those benefits, Ultimate Captain America seems inferior to Master Chief.
Look, I really like Captain America, but there is just no possible way that he can beat Master Chief who is centuries ahead of him. Like I said before, all Master Chief has to do is knock the shield away and Captain America is done.
SpartanI043 I think both MC and capt can beat each given the situation but screw all that. did you really just say hulk don't have good reflexes and not good at running, that's just bs.
SpartanI043 "Like I said before, all Master Chief has to do is knock the shield away and Captain America is done."
For the longest time I have said such a weapon lacks the fighting utilities appropriate in most live action combat scenarios. It would probably explain why I prefer Batman. Not at all saying he would beat the Chief. But he has gadget utility and simply just peak human strength.
Thank you