ALIEN (1979) Commentary with
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- Опубликовано: 10 мар 2024
- Rob Hill joins me to discuss the theatrical cut of ALIEN.
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00:40 *🎬 Opening Credits and Film Score*
- Introduction to the film's opening Fox logo and credits.
- Discussion on the eerie and menacing tone of the film score composed by Jerry Goldsmith.
- Exploration of the unique portrayal of space as threatening rather than adventurous.
03:13 *🚀 Understanding Nostromo's Cargo*
- Analysis of the confusion surrounding Nostromo's cargo being depicted as an ore refinery rather than a container.
- Speculation on the possible reasons behind this discrepancy and its significance.
- Exploration of the architectural inconsistencies in the ship's design.
06:30 *🎶 Use of Music from "Freud" and Sound Design*
- Discussion on the licensing of music from the film "Freud" due to directorial preference over Jerry Goldsmith's original score.
- Exploration of the various versions and reception of the film's soundtrack.
- Analysis of the importance of sound design in creating atmosphere and tension in the film.
08:10 *👥 Crew Dynamics and Class System*
- Examination of the portrayal of crew dynamics and the class system aboard the Nostromo.
- Discussion on the depiction of mundane moments juxtaposed with underlying tensions among the crew members.
- Analysis of how the film's character dynamics contribute to its narrative depth.
11:03 *🛸 Visual Effects and Cinematography*
- Exploration of the practical effects used in creating the visual aesthetics of the film.
- Discussion on the effectiveness of understated visual effects in maintaining the film's timeless quality.
- Comparison between the filming techniques used in "Alien" and other sci-fi films of the era.
13:10 *📝 Script Development and Influences*
- Analysis of the script's origins and development, including Dan O'Bannon's influences and collaboration with Ronald Shusett.
- Exploration of the evolution of the script from its initial concept to the final product.
16:04 *🎥 Ridley Scott's Vision and Influence*
- Examination of Ridley Scott's influences and approach to directing "Alien."
- Comparison between Scott's interpretation of the sci-fi genre and other notable filmmakers.
17:59 *🎬 Ridley Scott's approach to directing Alien*
- Ridley Scott's storyboarding process significantly influenced the budget of Alien, doubling it from $4.2 million to $8.4 million.
- Scott focused primarily on visual aspects rather than spending time with actors, preferring them to understand their roles independently.
19:36 *👽 Casting and production anecdotes*
- John Hurt's replacement due to his health issues raised questions about his sudden departure from the film.
- The set used for Alien's exterior shots was the same as Kubrick's iconic moon scene in 2001: A Space Odyssey.
21:12 *🚀 Creative filmmaking and personal touches*
- Ridley Scott incorporated his sons and a cameraman into certain scenes, adding a personal touch to the film's scale.
- Anecdotes about miniature collectible figures resembling the characters from Alien, and the novelty of Alien-themed toys for children.
26:08 *🎭 Impactful moments and iconic scenes*
- Reflections on the effectiveness of the chestburster scene, despite its perceived artificiality.
- Acknowledgment of the reactions of the actors, particularly John Hurt, contributing to the scene's authenticity.
31:33 *🔬 Foreshadowing and narrative connections*
- Analysis of foreshadowing elements, such as the warning message from the Engineer and Ash's conflicting actions.
- Speculation about the potential narrative connections between Alien and subsequent films in the franchise.
35:44 *🎨 Giger's unique artistic vision in "Alien"*
- Giger's narrow artistic direction highlighted, particularly evident in the Batmobile design for "Batman Forever."
- Giger's integral role in establishing the aesthetic difference between the alien's world and ours emphasized.
38:31 *📖 Insights from the novelization of "Alien"*
- Novelization details divergences from the film, such as the alien's interaction with food and extended scenes of tracking the alien.
- The effectiveness of the film's sequence involving Dallas and the alien praised.
40:32 *🧪 Utilization of blood acid as a plot device*
- The strategic use of blood acid as a defense mechanism in the narrative discussed.
- Real-world parallels to animals with similar defense mechanisms mentioned.
- Credits controversy surrounding the creation of key elements in the "Alien" screenplay explored.
- Contributions of David Giler and Walter Hill in rewriting the script highlighted.
49:38 *🎬 Commentary on special effects and set design*
- Appreciation for the detailed and realistic look of the facehugger creature discussed.
- Insights into the construction and filming of miniature sets and models provided.
55:14 *🎬 Directing Style and Actor Cohesion*
- Maintaining a naturalistic style in film, such as "Alien," requires cohesive acting.
- Actors need to be on the same page, ensuring consistency in performance.
57:03 *🎥 Chest Burster Scene Analysis*
- The effectiveness of the chest burster scene lies in quick editing and realistic reactions.
- Opinions on the believability of the scene vary, with some finding it less convincing.
58:19 *🌌 Evolution of Sci-Fi Filmmaking*
- Ridley Scott's approach to "Alien" marked a significant shift in sci-fi genre aesthetics.
- The film's design elements, influenced by "Star Wars," elevated the genre's visual standards.
01:00:09 *🚀 Influences on "Alien" and Sci-Fi Genre*
- "Silent Running" and its mundane portrayal of space work influenced "Alien" and its realism.
- Douglas Trumbull's contributions to both "Silent Running" and "Blade Runner" shaped sci-fi visual effects.
01:03:41 *🎞️ Director's Cut and Film Versions Discussion*
- The Director's Cut of "Alien" introduced additional scenes, altering the pacing and narrative flow.
- Varied opinions on the necessity and impact of director's cuts versus theatrical releases.
01:05:21 *👽 Terrifying Sequences and Creature Design*
- Discussion on terrifying sequences, like Kane's encounter with the alien, and their impact on viewers.
- Insights into the creation and portrayal of the alien creature, including casting and design choices.
01:07:16 *🎭 Appreciation for Harry Dean Stanton and Supporting Cast*
- Harry Dean Stanton's contributions to "Alien" and his notable career in supporting roles across various films and genres.
- Anecdotes about Stanton's friendship with David Lynch and memorable appearances in Lynch's works.
01:13:24 *🎬 Homages to "Alien" in children's TV and movies*
- Various children's TV programs and movies have referenced "Alien" despite its mature themes.
- Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Ghostbusters, and other shows have paid homage to "Alien."
01:16:31 *🚀 Logical inconsistencies in sci-fi movies*
- Criticism of logical inconsistencies in sci-fi movies like "Alien."
- Acknowledgment of the heavy narrative burden sci-fi films carry in creating a coherent story.
01:20:16 *🤖 Ash's behavior and symbolism in "Alien"*
- Analysis of Ash's behavior and its symbolism in "Alien."
- Discussion on the ambiguity of Ash's actions and intentions.
01:24:00 *🏆 Awards and recognition for "Alien"*
- Recognition of "Alien's" achievements in sound, production design, and visual effects.
- Comparison with other films of the time and acknowledgment of the lack of awards for sci-fi movies.
01:32:29 *🎬 Alien film trivia and fan engagement*
- Discussion about behind-the-scenes trivia from the filming of "Alien".
- Actors' experiences during filming, including an unexpected slap scene and Ridley Scott's dedication to certain shots.
01:36:06 *🚀 Action sequences and storytelling in "Aliens"*
- Critique of fan-made films emulating action scenes without strong storytelling.
- Importance of character development and motivation in action sequences.
01:39:17 *🛸 Set design and universe integration in "Alien"*
- Speculation on the scale and layout of the Nostromo ship and refinery.
- Discussion on the aesthetic coherence between "Alien," "Blade Runner," and "Outland."
01:44:42 *🎨 Production anecdotes and artistic choices*
- Anecdotes about production challenges and creative decisions during the making of "Alien."
- Contrasting accounts of director's commentary regarding a specific scene.
01:51:06 *🌌 Sci-fi film industry and Star Wars influence*
- Discussion about the influence of "Star Wars" on the sci-fi film industry.
- Exploration of how major studios rushed to produce sci-fi movies following the success of "Star Wars."
01:52:34 *🔧 Analysis of practical effects and technical challenges*
- Examination of practical effects and technical challenges encountered during the filming of "Alien."
- Speculation on the use of spherical distortion to conceal set boundaries.
01:54:03 *🎶 Impact of music and film immersion*
- Reflections on the immersive nature of "Alien" and its ability to captivate viewers.
- Comparison of "Alien" and "Aliens" in terms of accessibility and commitment required from viewers.
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4:17 What I remember from the Lore is that: Someone else towed the refinery to Thedus, workers lived there on the refinery as mineral ore (in this case, Oil Rich Rock sediment) is shipped up to the refinery and the Nostromo is towing the refinery back with all of the workers off. While the crew of the Nostromo crew slept, the automatic machinery would refine the ore into Oil and Oil-Based products like plastics and gasoline and things like that.
It would make sense as it was a multi-month long journey even at FTL - makes the grim corporate nature another even worse, even your FTL journey is trivial and monetised activity takes place.
Gotta look out for that bonus.
Because there seems to be some confusion about the size of the Nostromo, I´d like to mention that the "Nostromo" is the tow ship, and it is supposed to be +/- 300 metres long (approx. the length of Star Trek TOS Enterprise.) Onscreen it´s not easy to guess the scale of the ship because of the size of the engines and landing gear and so forth, but the size of the windows (bridge, cockpit, whatever...), which are tiny, do suggest a very large hull. I say this because, as a model builder myself, I have read/watched everything (and I mean everything... I´m an old man, have been designing and building model spaceships myself since 1971, and have a lot of time...) pertaining to the design and construction of the studio Nostromo. However, I am only a messenger... I recommend watching this:
ruclips.net/video/Q2fTCKgMLkM/видео.html
I do enjoy your commentaries, thank you!
Respect 🤍
Lovely, tonight is now sorted. Your commentaries with Rob are always a highlight!
I always thought the Nostrmo was the the part they took to the surface the “commercial tow vehicle” and everything else was cargo and refinery. So like a semi trailer the vehicle itself was quite small.
What could be better than
Two Red Dwarf fans watching Alien. I really enjoyed this!
Around @5:30
No, they never go on the refinery. The Nostromo is much bigger than you think. The scene where Brett gets taken takes place in a cargo/utilities storage where (according to backstory), Brett and Parker had to repurpose environmental equipment from that area, so instead of the whole storage staying a uniform temperature, it became is own little biosphere with rain from condensation.
The novel goes into it a little. It's one of the plethora of reasons Parker is so obsessed over "full shares".
The Nostromo is the bit that goes to the planet. It is towing a giant refinery that is processing 20,000,000 tons of ore whilst on the journey back to Earth. The film takes place entirely on just the towing vehicle.
I always look forward to your commentaries with Rob, hoping you do the rest of the franchise with him 🤞
Brett is in the landing gear bay. The fingers are all folded up.
I heard Ridley Scott call it that today in a video about the egg scene. You're right!
Rob needs to get working on some new videos!
Ash knew something horrible was about to happen right when they start eating. He looks at Kane and tilts his head as everyone else goes about eating. I know he had his protocol to follow but I also think he was highly sadistic and wanted to see how it was going to play out.
the refinary is like a fridge trailer, nostromo is a truck
Apologies if someone here already said it, but in the (early 80's paperback) novel, the Nostromo was hauling petroleum oil instead of ore. The opening paragraphs mention the scarcity of oil and the need for off-world sourcing 💞
I love the Nod/similarities from where Brett was in the Waterfall/chains area and Alien 3 Prison Planet. I don't believe that was a coincidence.
Also the Waterfalling area may have to do with the cooling systems location as its portrayed to be a very humid area so I don't believe this scene was out of place in the ship like you guys mentioned. Great scene anyway
The news reporter interviewing the parents really made my day.
I love all things Alien, the quadrilogy. I understand the criticism of #4 but I still like them all. Alien 3 is super IMO. Of course the original is best.
You guys are funny and goofy!
Great films are never forgotten.
Great listen, Oliver and Rob. Listened while working on my latest train graffiti book. Is there a playlist for all of your commentary videos? Thanks, Gents!
How come the Bad Movie Bible guy is always on the best movies?! Terminator, Alien? These films are amazing!
Best guy for the best movies. Why not?
Thank you for your commentary. Your thoughts about the chest burster are interesting. I saw this film when it first was released in the theaters. It was terrifying - including the chest burster scene. But when the chest burster finally emerged and made a noise, the whole theater broke out laughing! This is my favorite Alien movie.
Watched this 2 nights ago. I'll watch it again with you guys 👍 the music at the very beginning is haunting and sublime
BB King once”went back” for his guitar. It’s a thing
The scene that you seem a bit confused about as to where Bret is on the Nostromo where water is dripping on his hat while he's looking for Jones the cat is where the landing gear is housed, the ice is melting causing the water.
Ash mentioned earlier in the film that the planet was deep cold well below the line.
The area where Brett gets killed is the landing leg housing bay (or whatever they call it).
You can see the landing legs folded up. The alien is hanging around next to them (better seen in the 'director's cut').
Oliver and Rob. What a tag team. Right up there with our best cop-buddy duos!
The refinery was automated. The area Brett was killed in was the landing gear room. The ship was towing a automated refinery.
I remember seeing the 13" Kenner Alien figure in Sears in '79. I took one look at it..and was careful to walk down other aisles the rest of my time in the store.
I was always aware of this movie series, I even had the xenomorph action figure as a kid, but I never actually had seen the movies. I watched it for the first time in 2019 at 30yrs old, and amazingly it didn’t feel dated or corny at all, I completely fell in love with it. Can only imagine what audiences thought about it in ‘79.
I feel like practical effects are the way to go mostly. For example Aliens and Terminator two, Stan Winston was Awesome! When CGI is minimal is best.
My idea for an Alien5 movie is as follows:
It takes place after alien4 and takes places on an earth in ruins.
TheRipleyClone has transformed into an entity that is producing eggs,and a lot of humans are affected,and
a war breaks out.They have to use a nuke on the swarms of xenomorphs and decidedes to travel
to the planet where they think the xenomorphs orginate from.There they find there are multiple
forms of xenomorphs.They manages to form a clone of a xenomorph that is able to communicate with them.
And a peace is established.
But as allways Weyland-Yutani has spies that want the xenomorph for their biological weapon program.
And it is a surprice who the spy is. And that Weyland-Yutami has a lab on a spacestation not far from the xenomorph
planet. Where they finds forms of xenomorphs that noone has seen before.
My idea is too leave it alone and never make another film. It's such a damaged franchise it would be for the best.
Sounds nuts! (I’d probably watch it)
The tracker in Alien Isolation reminds me of Ghostbusters.
I think they could and should retroactively make it that David bred a branch of Aliens from the goo, but the species still existed as native to a planet.
I really love these commentaries with TheBadMovieBible!
Yay robs back. And of course its nice to hear you ollie.
You guys need to do one of these for Aliens!
Like the Orion thingy actually my favourite was the 1980 United Artists UA design but i think a OH might involve more then a website creation
Dallas asked Parker & Brett to rig-up a couple of flamethrowers, so they were probably cobbled together from various equipment on the ship.
I always thought Scott treated Goldsmith’s score horribly in Alien, and he would go on to do the same in Legend, where Goldsmith’s rich, powerful, and beautiful score was replaced entirely for the US cut. I’ve synced up Goldsmith’s score to Alien, and it works perfectly, even the main and end titles. Good mixing is able to balance the score and sound design, but Goldsmith’s score is completely buried and trimmed in much of Alien. If there’s any fault in the film, it’s this.
Will you redo commentaries for all the Alien movies before Romulus?
I'm a big-time soundtrack collector and loved Jerry Goldsmith's work since 'The Planet of the Apes'. Well, when I was in my teens I was an usher when Alien came out, I immediately loved it, in addition to recognizing the score for 'Freud' because I owned the album. All this time I thought that Jerry was just saving himself some work by reusing parts of that score. Thanks for clearing up the fact that the blame goes to the producers.
Jerry talks about the whole thing in the Alien box set which was made before he passed away. Very interesting interviews and commentaries as well.
I think Jerry just wanted to get away from doing avant-grade music and do more symphonic scores at that time even though doing an avant-grade score throughout the entire film is the right choice to make and what the producers wanted. You have to listen to what the director wants, just look at what happened to Bernard Herrmann with the 'Torn Curtain' score, even though in that case Bennie was right.
The funny thing is that Weaver was quite up for doing the scene at the end nude, but it wouldn't have been allowed plus obviously she quite rightly refused to shave.
I'm sure many would have loved to have seen that. She was rather attractive in those days! But I do think it would have been too much and would have overshadowed the ending.
Big Chap (the original Alien) may make a showing in Alien Romulus!
Brett is killed in one of the landing gear bays.
Actually I always thought it was in a cooling area for the engines. There's no reason why there would be water there. Of course that doesn't explain the chains but that's fine.
Actually it was in a cooling area for the engines. There wouldn't be water there otherwise. It doesn't explain the chains but that's fine.
This is one of those films that young me didn't like all that much. But young me was a dumbass. Old me is . . . a little more self aware of his dumbassery, and now can get with the vibe of a film like Alien. Good shit. Alien 3 is my fave though.
The reason why they are rushing to try to blow the alien out is because they have a limited amount of oxygen during their time out of hypersleep. It is barely mentioned in the film but it is mentioned more in the novel and earlier scripts.
What movie did Frances Ford Coppola duo that was an Alien knockoff?
He did some work on the Hellraiser in space film. The 4th one I think? But yeah. He left soon after they started the film.
Supernova, with James Spader and Angela Bassett. Walter Hill was its director. The production went so haywire that Coppola came in to try steer the ship but apparently the end result is a disaster
@@TheBeird Thanks.
Brett gets killed under a folder landing strut. The water is the drop off from the rainfall on the planet. At the beginning you mention if it all takes place on the Nostromo. That's something I've always wondered too. Great video. Really enjoyed it.
So why bother decontaminating when the crew can gain access to an alien (no pun intended) water source? Would you drink condensed/rain water from a water source that you have no idea what alien life is in it? Alien has been my favourite film since 6, and I've seen it over 200 times so not disrespect it.
It wasn't a landing strut. It was a cooling area for the engines of the ship. It doesn't explain the chains but that's fine.
@@Theoverthinker81 Wow calm down there pickle. We're all fans here discussing a film we like.
@@kellinwinslow1988 I called it a landing strut because to me when you watch Brett enter the chamber hes taken in the four horizontal objects shown hanging down are the "toes" of the landing gear. When you watch the landing scene and when the crew leaves the ship the "toes" are shown and they are the same as the objects in the chamber. I should have said it was my opinion. Im not looking to anger anyone although I feel I may be off Christopherkirkbrides5730 Christmas card list. 🤭
@@seano4977 my problem is with Ridley Scotts' art direction, being both his best and worst asset. Ok no film can be perfect but reducing continuity/logic errors should be a priority. Instead, they just say the audience should just accept massive errors.
The best Alien movie with it being far more atmospheric horror focused and I also love the 2014 Alien Isolation game :-)
2004?
@@karlydoc Yeah, just a typo as I meant 2014 :-)
I have pulled up people b4 on typo's while using a typo.der@@SamM_Scot
I love the first and second Alien films a lot. The first will always have a special place in my heart. The second, gave me knots in my stomach most of the time. The only thing that I liked about 'Alien3' that I thought was clever, that I never hear anybody talk about is how the Alien transforms using its host attributes, that's why it looks somewhat like a human because it came from a human in the first two films. In Alien 3, it burst from a dog (I know it was supposed to be an ox originally) and that's why it's spaced like a dog. This way you have a design that was very out there and plausible as to why it had a human shape since it can alter that anytime it has a different host, so who really knows what the original looks like.
I hate the Isolation game. Mainly because the story is so stupid. Ripley's daughter also met an Alien? Come on. That is so retarded is laughable. The gameplay is fine, although way too repetitive and the puzzles aren't great,but that story is just bad.
Wish I could experience Alien again for the first time.
Same here. It would be great to watch the movie and not know what was going to happen next.
Well why not,find yourself a ford cortina and drive around the towns inner ring road looking for somewhere to park,pay over priced parking cost with a car park with pot holes full of water and step in one.Que up outside the cinema for 20 mins,get in have to listen to crappy adverts,!"we all Adore Kiora"watch another add for "Kramer vs Kramer,and after 45 mins the film starts with an awful mono dub with out of focus image at each corner and motion blur.Have to listen to people talking and eating all the way thru it,and then getting back to the car park to find your car blocked in.How about that then.
@karlydoc
Sir, this is a Wendy's
It was a special experience for me at the time.
The "sound effects" are pure Goldsmith, they are all on the 2 CD set by Intrada records.
Looking forward to watching this. Planned for the week 🫡
Please look at The Omen franchise.
1 & 2 were good.
The name of the planet they were returning from is Thedus. Great commentary!
Oh Yeah!
nice intro
Truckers in space... where nobody can hear them scream!
In the book they are towing a refinery. And that was based on earlier concepts compared to the movie
The refinery holds and refines the ore on the trip home so when they arrive it can be used.
Yes!
👍👍👍🎥
Nice team up!
Did you like the movie The Rover?
The drop ship scene in Covenant contains perhaps the worst script writing ever.
Love to hear your take on a Starship Troopers Commentary.
James Cameron Directors cuts are worth a watch.
you need to use icons on screen to highlight who is talking (like the discord ones)
You must be new to the channel.
The reused music from Freud is just in the scene where the acid blood drips through the decks, not the scene at the beginning where the camera moves into the hibernation pod chamber.
I don't know... I enjoyed listening to this, but you are literally just repeating everything said in the behind the scenes documentary and commentary from the movie. I would feel pretty weird making a commentary to a movie, and just repeat what the director has said in his commentary to the movie. No new information here. What's your own thoughts on the movie?
Am I being harsh?
This is gold.
Love scene where the two planes flies into the 2 towers 😂
And the scene where your character blows bubbles to atrack the enemies..
1:14:37 I saw Alien and Aliens probably before I was 10. I still have nightmares about Xenomorphs hunting me. Infrequently these days, but almost my whole childhood, if I had a nightmare, it was either about a Xenomorph or a Poltergeist. Despite that, Alien+Aliens are my 2 favorite movies.
Alien really scared me,another one that did that was John Carpenter’s the Thing.
Love this alien commentary. Listen to this & the aliens one in bed. Very relaxing & informative. 🛌🏼🤙🏼💤 Thanks for all your fantastic content.
This movie was great
In regards to the use of Jerry Goldsmith's music for the 1962 film Freud being used instead of his new material for the film, I have to agree with its usage by editor Terry Rawlings. Don't get me wrong, I love the original music for Alien, but there were many instances when the music was more loud or too romantic than it should have been, and Goldsmith's music from Freud, especially during the vent sequence, had the right intensity and suspense. I definitely think that they could have used his own music for the end title, or even when the alien is blasted away from the shuttle; I hated the use of Howard Hanson's music during those two moments. At the same time, I definitely think it was also more effective to take the music out entirely for the sequence when the alien is asleep in the shuttle; while Goldsmith's rewritten cue for that sequence was more quiet, I felt it would actually make the alien a lot less threatening. Sure, the more bombastic cue conveyed the threat, but you would not have been able to convince the audience that everything was really quiet in the shuttle.
I believe that Ridley Scott and company chose Jerry Goldsmith because he was a master at creating an alien 'soundtrack' landscape such as in the film 'The Planet of the Apes', which consisted of an entirely avant-garde score from start to finish. However, Jerry's plan for 'Alien' was to build up to that gradually. I have to agree with the producers that the entire film should have alien due to the actual nature of space, and that is why they went with the cues from 'Freud' because that film also had an avant-garde score that represented the inner workings of the human mind and consciousness, but wasn't that well known amongst film audiences, except for at least this one, who owned the soundtrack on LP and recognized it.
Actually I don't like the Freud music but the Hanson track at the end is perfect. Every time I hear it it works. Loved it so much I picked up his Symphony No.2 so I could hear the whole thing. I have the special set of the soundtrack and I love Jerry Goldsmith's scores. Even more than Williams. But after hearing his end score it's just not as good. The use of Hanson was so inspired I can't picture the ending without it.
Sorry! I forgot to mention that you must be pis... confused!
I say this because you (Rob) were critical about the 20 Million tons of ore cargo, although right at the start of the film we read that the Nostromos´ cargo is " Refinery processing 20,000,000 tons of mineral ore"
So, not ore, refinery.
Nuff said.
Let's not forget that aside from the amazing Giger,Ron Cob,who worked on Conan,and Moebius and Carlo Rambaldi,all made the film what it was. Getting talent and vision like that doesn't happen often and it's why the film has never really been equaled after all these years.
The area where Brett is killed is a cooling area for the ships engines. Thus the water dripping down. Doesn't explain the chains but that's fine. In fact for a horror film,the film is more hard sci Fi than a lot of sci fi films. Little details like how traffic control is on Antarctica or how it's implied that we know about other life forms. Dan O'Bannon's writing was exceptional in spite of him not coming up with Ash.
Dallas always stuck me as someone who was really sick of the job. Just tired of it and wanted to quit. He knows he messed up by letting it in though and tries to make up for it when he goes in the vents. The scene where he gets surprised by the Alien is still amazing. Not corny in any way. Dallas is an interesting character the more you think about it. Lambert also I never had a problem with. I've known people who freek out at little things. A meltdown like she has is exactly what would happen to most people and it fits the Lovecraft terrible unknown creature idea as well.
Jerry Goldsmith's score is really amazing. I have the special 3 disc set and it has everything. Outtakes with him conducting ECT. The music cue from Freud was during the acid eating thru the hull scene. And of course Howard Hansons symphony no.2 at the end. That really annoyed Jerry. I understand not using the Freud track but the Hanson piece was perfect.
The chest burst scene still works well. I actually think it look fine when it comes out. It's when it runs away that it's a bit janky. But they made it quick and it's so shocking you don't really notice it right away. They had a lot of issues making that work. But other than that and the explosion at the end the film look better than a lot of films now. Certainly better than anything in that trainwreck of a film,Alien 3. Hill and Giller really couldn't do anything right after the first film. In fact their involvement only made things worse later on.The fact that James Cameron had ideas for Alien 3,which he talks about in the commentary to Aliens,that they ignored is a crime.
On that note we should really quit taking about Prometheus. It's so bad it should never be talked about. Making prequels to over explain the lore of the Alien is such a terrible mistake. As Steven King said,Alien is Lovecraft only we go to them instead of them coming to us. Dan O'Bannon confirmed this idea. Things like that should never be explained. It kills the mystery. Also David didn't make the Aliens as they existed before Prometheus. The problem is that now the franchise has become such a bloated mess of junk that none of it makes any sense anymore. Really there's only two movies and that's it.
No,thescene where Brett gets it is underneath the retracted landing gear.
@@karlydocThat doesn't explain the water in that scene in any way. Plus even if it was the landing gear area it still doesn't rule out any kind of cooling area. It might have been from Ron Cob I heard that. Ultimately it was only do e because it looked cool but I'll go with what makes the most sense.
Btw, Alien: Isolation is available on Switch, too, and it runs beautifully. There are some aspects of the graphics that look better than the Playstation 4 version.
Now that you name dropped Red Dwarf your going to have to make a complete retrospective series on it. . . . smegheads. . . =)
In the Audiobook, The Nostromo is towing an Oil Refinery which is processing the ore/oil into plastics as Earth has been completely exhausted of the means to make plastics.
Take a drink every time he says "obviously" - enjoy the stomach pumps!
I think the reason for the fight is that Giler attempted to strip O'Bannon from the credit entirely. I'm not going to sit here and say Giler should not have received a credit, but I'm just guessing here the attempt to entirely strip O'Bannon and Shussett is what lost him any credit.
And actually Oliver Scott did help the actors in a way. He helped the actors write backstory for their characters. You can see some of the bios in the background for Aliens. Kane for example had a serious drug problem and this was his last chance to make good. That's part of why he pushes to keep going.
Without Dan O'Bannon Alien just wouldn't have worked as well. He had every right to get annoyed. Hill and Giller were nothing but problems later on. They did this and that was it.
Tom Skerritt in this would've made an excellent live action Randy Marsh, and no one can convince me otherwise.
Yeh, he has such tegridy in this role.
Nice commentary, Dan O'bannon anf Ronald Shusett deserve more credit. Walter Hill and David Giler were giant assholes, just ask screenwriters of Alien 3 , I like some Hills movies tho. H.R.Giger is much more versatile artist. You should visit one of his exhibition. Alien, best of the trilogy, rest is some parallel universe thing at least for me.
You need to get on Open Bar with the Critical Drinker, Oliver!
Nah. It'll be fine.
Honestly not a fan of his style. Fake drunk etc - I find it cringey
Fake drunk is okay in small doses, I couldn't cope with it all the time. I really like when he's being genuine about stuff.@@terryhaircastle5702
@@terryhaircastle5702 fair, but his open bar stuff doesn't have the persona...
I hope Oliver stays away from outrage merchants.
Brett is killed in one of the landing strut bays.