Thank you for your positivity and enthusiasm. A rarity on RUclips. Very excited for the Eregion storyline especially, which takes centre stage this time round.
What I love about the scene with Adar and Sauron, Sauron swearing allegiance, is that he knows that oaths have power but by saying "I swear to the lord of Mordor," he means himself and grants himself even more power. That smirk, epic. Love it.
You can tell that Sauron was underground for a long time due to the change in appearance of the cave; stalactites and stalagmites. The stalagmites weren’t present at all in the beginning and looked at least a couple of metres tall after the transition, which takes on average over 15,000 years or several hundred years at the quickest (likely closer to the latter given we’re still in the 2nd age when he re-emerges)
It feels like they're implying Saulbrand was absent for most of the Second Age which I don't love since it does break "canon", but I like to think that maybe he wandered for a VERY long time as Halbrand before coming to the Southlands.
I think Sauron's manipulation of Adar is going to lead to the attack on Eregion. He wanted Adar to know that Sauron is back and then Sauron goes to Eregion. Adar will attack because Sauron is with the elves. Sauron will get two birds with one stone so to speak.
The elven rings are actually geniunly good so long as the one ring doesnt exist, or is held by sauron. They do not hold any evil in them unlike the other 16 and the one
Yes. At most they are similar to Feanor’s works, in that their beauty and power causes elves to go crazy over them. But that is because of what’s inherently already wrong with elves, not the rings, per se.
the only reason they went corrupted because they were made only by Celebrimbor and he was tortured and killed for not telling the rings location so Sauron used his body as a banner
One could *theoretically* argue they aren’t. They aren’t corrupting like the Nine or the One, but they do involve staving off decay or, as I believe I heard described, “embalming” Middle-earth which isn’t how things should be. That said, yeah they definitely aren’t like the other 16 since he wasn’t directly involved.
The power is just stopping the spread of darkness. Galadriel is right that the rings were untouched by Sauron but they are still covetous and tempting.
Gil: "Come! Lets us watch leaves fall from the tree! I want to perform a song for you I wrote cause it made me sad!" All elves: "do we have to?" Gil: "Yes, and you'd better clap." cut to none of them clapping Gil: "now this next song, I wrote about a girl I knew in the 8th grade..."
Was not expecting the Evanescence cut lol. My millennial heart loved it though. Wonderfully positive reaction. For me this show takes me back to when I saw the Peter Jackson trilogy in theaters when I was younger. Rings of Power isn't the exact same LOR, but it really evokes the same feeling for me.
Conjecture: If Elrond was successful and cirdan(spelling) had thrown the rings into the deep ocean. Then as Gilgarod said, he would have ordered all the elves to leave Middle Earth for Valinor. That would have taken the elves out of the picture. Sauron then could have still convinced the dwarves and humans to make their rings. Unless the elven rings and smiths were needed to make the Dwarven and Human Rings. But if the elven rings and smiths were not needed. Then Sauron likely would have been able to dominate Middle-Earth. If that was the case, then despite Elrond being right about the danger of the rings, Gilgalad was right that the danger did not matter if there was to be hope for Middle-Earth. - As I understand it, there are stories about what happens at The Lonely Mountain with the Dwarves, Humans, and elves there and what happened in those lands during the Fellowship of the Rings and the defeat of Sauron. I do not know if those stories are from Tolkien's Silmarillion or not. But I think it would be a fun series if they did one.
Cirdan is not standing behind Galadriel in LOTR, that's her husband, Celeborn, who will probably be in the show at some point. Cirdan doesn't have dialog in the LOTR films, he's only in them very briefly, mostly at the Grey Havens.
He IS standing behind Galadriel, but not in Lothlórien. It's in the prologue when they're all putting the elvish rings on for the first time. Gil-Galad is in the background of that shot as well if I recall correctly.
Mithril is imbued by the light of the Two Trees of Valinor, which gives the elves, and everything from Valinor immortality. We see this in a scene from season 1. "The Elf imbued the tree with pure light, while the Balrog channeled hatred into the branches. Ultimately, the tree was struck by lightning - which is how Mithril came to be formed."
The elves wanted the power to shield themselves from the encroaching darkness and preserve their lands and longevity outside of Valinor. The Elven Rings granted them just that. I think even time is weird on the lands of the ring bearers and make the hobbits feel funny and confused.
I think Galadriel never told Celebrimbor because she needed the rings made not only to save the Elves from the fading but also stay to fight Sauron. If she had revealed it before they arrived at Lindon, I don’t think the rings ever get made based on Elrond’s reaction now.
I almost wish that this show had a permanent map in the lower left corner like Red Dead Redemption 2, so we always knew the geography of where each character was at all times for every scene. Something about Tolkien map exploration just tickles my fancy.
I've been waiting for y'all's reaction! You guys are one of my favorites for reacting to Rings of Power content. And I love that you're one of the first I've seen to realize that the beginning is a flashback sequence!
I fully agree with you guys about your comments about the Galadriel actor. So far I felt she's been completely seamless in the role and I haven't once thought "I miss Cate Blanchett". Which is something that usually comes up when someone can't live up to a role. I'm also pleasantly surprised how much this show is basically taking the same path as season 2 of Wheel of Time and season 2 of Halo, in which case everyone says season 2 is when the series gets going. The show is finally giving me those good "I can't wait for the next episode" reaction and not the "when is this show going to get interesting" reaction.
15:52 he was a pile of goo for centuries or at least a century if you remember when they stab Sauron the castle is new and warm by the time Galadriel gets there the castle is run down the whole area is ice for miles so the corruption has taken over.
You guys are so great recapping just having the best time, actually appreciating the finer details. Not had chance to watch past the first episode yet, but can't wait. Seeing so many great things already.
The rings work for the elves. The light only begins to fade during Fellowship of The Ring, which is why so many of the elves are leaving. Their time is over. The rings just delay it
Thank you for being open to the show, and not shit on it for the sake of it. The amount of hate the show is getting here on RUclips, is beyond unhinged. People are hating on it for the sake of it, looking at every little thing to attack. The sad part is that this season thus far is VERY lore friendly. There are Tolkien experts that explain how well the lore has been followed, despite taking some liberties here and there. Just ignore the haters, people are really trying to find RUclipsrs who don't automatically hate the show, and are instead sharing their opinions. I loved your reaction!
Galadriel is right. The elven rings were not corrupted by Sauron. The one ring still has power over them, however, the elves knew this, and knew to remove their rings once Sauron had his. But otherwise, the elven rings were forces for good in countless ways throughout the history of middle earth.
I watched their reactions to season 1 to get caught up for this. I seem to remember GW stating, "It would be to obvious for it to be Gandalf" multiple times. 😅 - Hera on the other hand was pretty sure because of his growing relationship with the Harfoots.
I immediately thought (Lovecraft's) "Shoggoth" on seeing Sauron's intermediate form... But you're right, it really does look like a live action version of Ghibli's "tatarigami", especially the one from "Princess Mononoke."
It likely took at the very least seven hundred years given the growth rate of stalagmites which grew in the cave (plus we know that it takes Sauron a long time to regain a physical form after losing one)
@Dan-B You can also tell that it was a while given that when Galadriel Ended up at that fortress.She mentioned that her company had been tracking Sauron for hundreds of years( If there is a similar comment made by the elf who is in charge of Arondir's company). And we know from that title card at the beginning that it wasn't long after Morgoth's defeat that they retreated there.
Thank you for having some positive things to say about this show. There are several problems with the Rings of Power, but hardly anyone on RUclips or the internet says anything good about it. Season 2 is awesome
So thrilled S2 is back and with stellar performances, gorgeous visuals and intricate detailed care that’s gone into the storyline! Waited all weekend for your positive reaction/review… so lovely to see radiant Hera back 💛 I’m excited to see this season with all the twists, turns & reveals. Look forward to the rest of your reactions too! Thank you again! ♥️
@@grizzledwizard7129 … and in the prologue of FOTR when they show the 3 elven rings worn by Galadriel, Gil-Galad, and Cirdan, much like it was shown in this episode with them standing in a circle with the ring hands extended inward. Cirdan later gives his ring of fire to Gandalf, which explains some of his fireworks magic. This is never shown or explained in the PJ movies, nor is Elronds ring given to him by Gil-Galad explaining Elronds Rivendell magic, while Galadriels ring Nenya is shown in the extended edition, explaining her Lothlorien magic.
Lol, ngl, lost me at the Harfoots "are so adorable" ..leaving their own to die or cutting off people's cart wheel and all 😅. Regardless, I'm glad you guys enjoy this sort of story telling.
How long had Sauron been in that cave? According to the writing at the start of the episode from the beginning of the second age to the very end of it. Why the end of the second age? ... you'll find out by just watching the show, so I won't spoil anything. Butcthis: The second age was about 3000 years long.
im guessing skull guy is an Easterling tribesman, the Easterlings have always been shifty men, they're the main reason every other race distrust humans, since one of their ancient kings Ulfang the Black betrayed the elves halfway through the Battle of Unnumbered Tears and started slaughtering them from behind since they were secretly in service of Morgoth also you keep whining that rings won't be destroyed in the ocean but seriously, have you seen an orc with gills so far? they'd never find them
I've been looking forward to this......whoops wrong franchise. If I may be rather Blunt.I believe that this particular season is off to one hell of a start
@@grizzledwizard7129 I agree with the short hair, but the eldest elves had beards. Cirdan was one of the original 144 firstborn elves who awoke at lake Cuivienan
You can like a franchise and still give a realistic review. The show is very very average. It's entertaining sometimes and sometimes not. It's okay to admit it. 😂
ACTUALLY, some of us really love season 2 thus far. I've tuned out the RUclips haters, you're all looking for things to hate to such a degree that it's become a farce at this point.
Thank you for your positivity and enthusiasm. A rarity on RUclips. Very excited for the Eregion storyline especially, which takes centre stage this time round.
Rat gets eaten: "Poor Ratty!"
Human gets eaten: "yep..."
So awesome to find a react channel that actually enjoys this show!
What I love about the scene with Adar and Sauron, Sauron swearing allegiance, is that he knows that oaths have power but by saying "I swear to the lord of Mordor," he means himself and grants himself even more power. That smirk, epic. Love it.
You can tell that Sauron was underground for a long time due to the change in appearance of the cave; stalactites and stalagmites.
The stalagmites weren’t present at all in the beginning and looked at least a couple of metres tall after the transition, which takes on average over 15,000 years or several hundred years at the quickest (likely closer to the latter given we’re still in the 2nd age when he re-emerges)
Mostly a thousand years I guess
It feels like they're implying Saulbrand was absent for most of the Second Age which I don't love since it does break "canon", but I like to think that maybe he wandered for a VERY long time as Halbrand before coming to the Southlands.
My new 'Viggo broke his toe' fact: Robert Aramayo actually jumped off a 30 foot cliff into water. It wasn't a stunt actor.
Oh dang!! I didnt know that!! Respect lol
Wait what? Really?
I heard that too but I don’t know if it’s true, or why they would ever need to do that far of a practical fall when the waterfall isn’t even real 🤷♂️
Meh, that’s not the same level of fact
😂😂
I think Sauron's manipulation of Adar is going to lead to the attack on Eregion. He wanted Adar to know that Sauron is back and then Sauron goes to Eregion. Adar will attack because Sauron is with the elves.
Sauron will get two birds with one stone so to speak.
Bingo!
And it's AMAZING
The elven rings are actually geniunly good so long as the one ring doesnt exist, or is held by sauron. They do not hold any evil in them unlike the other 16 and the one
Yes. At most they are similar to Feanor’s works, in that their beauty and power causes elves to go crazy over them. But that is because of what’s inherently already wrong with elves, not the rings, per se.
@@mrs.manrique7411 very well said!
the only reason they went corrupted because they were made only by Celebrimbor and he was tortured and killed for not telling the rings location so Sauron used his body as a banner
One could *theoretically* argue they aren’t. They aren’t corrupting like the Nine or the One, but they do involve staving off decay or, as I believe I heard described, “embalming” Middle-earth which isn’t how things should be.
That said, yeah they definitely aren’t like the other 16 since he wasn’t directly involved.
The power is just stopping the spread of darkness. Galadriel is right that the rings were untouched by Sauron but they are still covetous and tempting.
Elrond just like his mom, cliff diving to safeguard relects.
Also, I don't mind the recast of Adar. I thought I was gonna hate but I'm diggin' it..
Sauron was originally a shapeshifter, so the amorphous blob isn't a big stretch.
Gil: "Come! Lets us watch leaves fall from the tree! I want to perform a song for you I wrote cause it made me sad!"
All elves: "do we have to?"
Gil: "Yes, and you'd better clap."
cut to none of them clapping
Gil: "now this next song, I wrote about a girl I knew in the 8th grade..."
Centering this series on Galadriel gives a new perspective on her giving the prologue in the LOTR movies -- it's the condensed version.
Was not expecting the Evanescence cut lol. My millennial heart loved it though. Wonderfully positive reaction. For me this show takes me back to when I saw the Peter Jackson trilogy in theaters when I was younger. Rings of Power isn't the exact same LOR, but it really evokes the same feeling for me.
Conjecture: If Elrond was successful and cirdan(spelling) had thrown the rings into the deep ocean. Then as Gilgarod said, he would have ordered all the elves to leave Middle Earth for Valinor. That would have taken the elves out of the picture. Sauron then could have still convinced the dwarves and humans to make their rings. Unless the elven rings and smiths were needed to make the Dwarven and Human Rings. But if the elven rings and smiths were not needed. Then Sauron likely would have been able to dominate Middle-Earth. If that was the case, then despite Elrond being right about the danger of the rings, Gilgalad was right that the danger did not matter if there was to be hope for Middle-Earth.
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As I understand it, there are stories about what happens at The Lonely Mountain with the Dwarves, Humans, and elves there and what happened in those lands during the Fellowship of the Rings and the defeat of Sauron. I do not know if those stories are from Tolkien's Silmarillion or not. But I think it would be a fun series if they did one.
Cirdan is not standing behind Galadriel in LOTR, that's her husband, Celeborn, who will probably be in the show at some point. Cirdan doesn't have dialog in the LOTR films, he's only in them very briefly, mostly at the Grey Havens.
He IS standing behind Galadriel, but not in Lothlórien. It's in the prologue when they're all putting the elvish rings on for the first time. Gil-Galad is in the background of that shot as well if I recall correctly.
Yay ! Hera is an elf lol
Thanks for the reminder that if The One Ring didn't end up existing, the three elf rings would be perfectly awesome. I'd forgotten that.
Mithril is imbued by the light of the Two Trees of Valinor, which gives the elves, and everything from Valinor immortality.
We see this in a scene from season 1.
"The Elf imbued the tree with pure light, while the Balrog channeled hatred into the branches. Ultimately, the tree was struck by lightning - which is how Mithril came to be formed."
Three rings for the Elven-kings under the sky!
The elves wanted the power to shield themselves from the encroaching darkness and preserve their lands and longevity outside of Valinor. The Elven Rings granted them just that. I think even time is weird on the lands of the ring bearers and make the hobbits feel funny and confused.
I think Galadriel never told Celebrimbor because she needed the rings made not only to save the Elves from the fading but also stay to fight Sauron. If she had revealed it before they arrived at Lindon, I don’t think the rings ever get made based on Elrond’s reaction now.
I almost wish that this show had a permanent map in the lower left corner like Red Dead Redemption 2, so we always knew the geography of where each character was at all times for every scene. Something about Tolkien map exploration just tickles my fancy.
I've been waiting for y'all's reaction! You guys are one of my favorites for reacting to Rings of Power content. And I love that you're one of the first I've seen to realize that the beginning is a flashback sequence!
I fully agree with you guys about your comments about the Galadriel actor. So far I felt she's been completely seamless in the role and I haven't once thought "I miss Cate Blanchett". Which is something that usually comes up when someone can't live up to a role.
I'm also pleasantly surprised how much this show is basically taking the same path as season 2 of Wheel of Time and season 2 of Halo, in which case everyone says season 2 is when the series gets going. The show is finally giving me those good "I can't wait for the next episode" reaction and not the "when is this show going to get interesting" reaction.
Hell yes, been stoked to watch this banger with y’all! This season is PEAK so far
15:52 he was a pile of goo for centuries or at least a century if you remember when they stab Sauron the castle is new and warm by the time Galadriel gets there the castle is run down the whole area is ice for miles so the corruption has taken over.
Perfect & S02 has been amazing so far. Late this evening i stream S02E05 via Prime Video & of course room always dark. 5.1. headphones in use 🙂
Been looking forward to your reaction! So great to be back in Middle Earth with you both ❤
You guys are so great recapping just having the best time, actually appreciating the finer details. Not had chance to watch past the first episode yet, but can't wait. Seeing so many great things already.
The rings work for the elves. The light only begins to fade during Fellowship of The Ring, which is why so many of the elves are leaving. Their time is over. The rings just delay it
“Yeah, their relationship is forever fractured over this.”
I hope not, since Galadriel will be his mother-in-law one day. 😮
always love the reactions yall!~ so hyped for these!~ thank you guys!!
0:07: hera’s woohoo 😅😅😅
Thank you for being open to the show, and not shit on it for the sake of it. The amount of hate the show is getting here on RUclips, is beyond unhinged. People are hating on it for the sake of it, looking at every little thing to attack. The sad part is that this season thus far is VERY lore friendly. There are Tolkien experts that explain how well the lore has been followed, despite taking some liberties here and there.
Just ignore the haters, people are really trying to find RUclipsrs who don't automatically hate the show, and are instead sharing their opinions. I loved your reaction!
The Crown is actually belong to Morgoth. Morgoth forged the crown himself.
Galadriel is right.
The elven rings were not corrupted by Sauron. The one ring still has power over them, however, the elves knew this, and knew to remove their rings once Sauron had his. But otherwise, the elven rings were forces for good in countless ways throughout the history of middle earth.
Been looking forward to this for two years now!
love reactions to this show! 🙂
I watched their reactions to season 1 to get caught up for this. I seem to remember GW stating, "It would be to obvious for it to be Gandalf" multiple times. 😅
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Hera on the other hand was pretty sure because of his growing relationship with the Harfoots.
goo!Sauron lives in my head rent free 😂 i love him so much
Yall this show is actually incredible and I won’t hear otherwise. Freaking amazing premier.
Also consider how much it actually took to put that form of Sauron down
You two are so adorable❤.
Enjoyed your reaction, thanks.
We should vote for Griz to watch the 4 prime Ghostbusters films
Wouldn't it be cool to see Numenor on a movie screen? Crazy!
I immediately thought (Lovecraft's) "Shoggoth" on seeing Sauron's intermediate form... But you're right, it really does look like a live action version of Ghibli's "tatarigami", especially the one from "Princess Mononoke."
I wonder how many years it took for Sauron to reform… we see it in a few min, but I bet it was like 10 years or something
It likely took at the very least seven hundred years given the growth rate of stalagmites which grew in the cave (plus we know that it takes Sauron a long time to regain a physical form after losing one)
@Dan-B You can also tell that it was a while given that when Galadriel Ended up at that fortress.She mentioned that her company had been tracking Sauron for hundreds of years( If there is a similar comment made by the elf who is in charge of Arondir's company). And we know from that title card at the beginning that it wasn't long after Morgoth's defeat that they retreated there.
why do i love the sauron scenes so much
They're seriously so good!
Thank you for having some positive things to say about this show. There are several problems with the Rings of Power, but hardly anyone on RUclips or the internet says anything good about it. Season 2 is awesome
So thrilled S2 is back and with stellar performances, gorgeous visuals and intricate detailed care that’s gone into the storyline!
Waited all weekend for your positive reaction/review… so lovely to see radiant Hera back 💛
I’m excited to see this season with all the twists, turns & reveals.
Look forward to the rest of your reactions too!
Thank you again! ♥️
This episode was amazing..... the music combined with how beautiful everything looks is really something
I thought season 1 wasn't good, but I still enjoyed it. I feel season 2 is off to a better start!
Also, at 27:40 you mixed up Cirdan and Celeborn.
I haven't seen a reaction yet where anyone knows who Cirdan the Shipright is..... I knew as soon as I saw the ship!
Could've sworn Cirdan is featured somewhere
EDIT: Found him, he's standing with Celeborn and Galadriel at the harbor at the end of ROTK
@@grizzledwizard7129 … and in the prologue of FOTR when they show the 3 elven rings worn by Galadriel, Gil-Galad, and Cirdan, much like it was shown in this episode with them standing in a circle with the ring hands extended inward.
Cirdan later gives his ring of fire to Gandalf, which explains some of his fireworks magic. This is never shown or explained in the PJ movies, nor is Elronds ring given to him by Gil-Galad explaining Elronds Rivendell magic, while Galadriels ring Nenya is shown in the extended edition, explaining her Lothlorien magic.
Great reaction dudes
30:15 it was sauron, if you rewatch the scene in s1 episode 1 you can hear sauron calling to her when she is about to jump
Hell yeah, been waiting for this!
I was looking forward to your reaction, Hera looks just like an elf 💕
This was the ROP reaction i was waiting for 👏 💍💍💍
Lol, ngl, lost me at the Harfoots "are so adorable" ..leaving their own to die or cutting off people's cart wheel and all 😅. Regardless, I'm glad you guys enjoy this sort of story telling.
The Harfoots = Nori and Poppy. Its not their fault their society is flawed af!
An excellent start to S02.
This season slaps 🎉
Gandalf was the last Istari to arrive in Middle Earth. I hope it’s one of the blue wizards. They’ve screwed with the timelines enough.
I didn't realize adar had a different actor until watching this reaction.
Edit: the black goo reminds me of star trek tng "skin of evil".
Kyle, will anymore episodes be posted here?
Yes, sorry about the delay! It's taking some time to get them edited
How long had Sauron been in that cave?
According to the writing at the start of the episode from the beginning of the second age to the very end of it.
Why the end of the second age?
... you'll find out by just watching the show, so I won't spoil anything.
Butcthis: The second age was about 3000 years long.
Hey I just subscribed I'm loving this season so far
11:22 - Sauron, the liquorice monster😋.
Come on.
are you two a couple??
Galadriel took it to the face alright.
❤👍
im guessing skull guy is an Easterling tribesman, the Easterlings have always been shifty men, they're the main reason every other race distrust humans, since one of their ancient kings Ulfang the Black betrayed the elves halfway through the Battle of Unnumbered Tears and started slaughtering them from behind since they were secretly in service of Morgoth
also you keep whining that rings won't be destroyed in the ocean but seriously, have you seen an orc with gills so far? they'd never find them
I've been looking forward to this......whoops wrong franchise. If I may be rather Blunt.I believe that this particular season is off to one hell of a start
“That’s how it happened?”
Well, that’s how Amazon says it happened 😆
more middle earth
More middle earth
I still find myself really distracted by elves with short hair and beards. 🙈
you're saying I wouldn't make a good elf?? haha
@@grizzledwizard7129 I agree with the short hair, but the eldest elves had beards. Cirdan was one of the original 144 firstborn elves who awoke at lake Cuivienan
You can like a franchise and still give a realistic review. The show is very very average. It's entertaining sometimes and sometimes not. It's okay to admit it. 😂
It’s also okay to enjoy it. Both opinions can be valid.
And if you’re not enjoying, just like…go away? It’s fine? Healthy, even
ACTUALLY, some of us really love season 2 thus far. I've tuned out the RUclips haters, you're all looking for things to hate to such a degree that it's become a farce at this point.