Wasn't the other 1. "Never get in a shouting match with an idiot , because those who aren't within earshot, won't know who the idiot is". I know i butchered that but ya got the gist. Lol. ✌👍
@@humanitysreject5233 “Never play chess with a pigeon. The pigeon just knocks all the pieces over. Then shits all over the board. Then struts around like it won.” :)
"If Eminem wasn't white, you'd give that win to Royce." he says, while giving the win to Royce because Eminem is white. This dude can't talk without bringing up race into it.
@Francis Earl agreed. it doesn't matter who takes it, you just know these guys push each other the the limit and it's always a joy to listen to. Royce em are my favorite together next to 50 and em
@Francis Earl i completely agree. Royce has always been the closest to Em on collabs and has gotten Em on some. I think they work so well together and make each other push their pens to the max. Like on Bad meets Evil. Great project, the back and forth , and finishing not only each other's bars but sometimes words is sick af. They just have great chemistry. They been doing it together for so long and they trust and respect each other... Damn, I'm still holding out hope for a sequel..
@Francis Earl Royce is a very versatile talented MC I think he can hold his own with anybody. When u are rapping with people on that level nobody is going to decisvely get over other on regular basis itll be back and forth. Hence why the Eminem Royce Collab albums make them work together so well. Steel sharpens steel.
Royce can easily rap along side em but... he doesn’t have the classic songs em does he does have a good catalog though if that makes sense also he isn’t an Artist / personality like em, wasn’t signed by dre or on the up & smoke tour. These are all big factors, it’s funny when people say if Hopsin was white he would be em, he wouldn’t because he didn’t write Stan, the way I am, the entire forgot about dre song, till I collapse....the list goes on. These comparisons just don’t work IMO.
@@melvsreacts I agree and hear ya.. but technically Royce passed up on Dres deal for Tommy boy or he woulda been on the up & smoke tour, and been able to blow up a lot faster had he been in that camp when they were running ish for about 5-6 yr period.
@@918_xDx dude is just ignorant beyond belief and it's frustrating af.. straight up said he doesn't listen to the catalog after encore...how are you gonna argue your point without knowing the rapper IN HIS PRIME. and he said 5'9 WASHES him on every feature/track??? Da fuq..???
Same question was posed to Lord Jamar... He clearly said if Em was black he'd be the next ALI... but he white so he not... Basically confirming what world thinks of him.
It’s crazy how whenever Em’s talents and skills are brought up, haters always try to keep the convo on relatability, when it has absolutely nothing to do with the level of skill and raw talent he has….
If they would look at his albums minus the "hits" they would see the content. It's a noticble and successful approach; make sure you have the singles for radio/to chart, and then you can fill the rest of the album with the technical and sometimes abstract songs and pile them with bars. Em talks about more real shit than most people, it's just not trendy. Who can relate to fighting with their so? How about everyone flying private jets, hittin models/driving bugattis?
People like this never bother to listen to rock bottom, mocking bird, like toy soldiers, sing for me, haillies song, cleaning out my closet, etc. Its always about whether they discuss how hard being black is, even if em grew up in poverty, was bullied bc of his race, his struggle with drugs.... if it doesn't include something about the police provoking them, or friends being shot in drive bys they won't bother listening.
Stevie, I admire your patience. This dude was literally not listening to anything you were saying. The entire time he was just waiting for his turn to speak.
Yea bro... He's interviewing, he has to that's why he's always keeping rethinking about his words as you can see 😆 Mouse is so blindly hate him just because of his few songs he said things that get in your skin He intentionally doing that bro That's one of his lanes Listen to criminal he answers all mouse's questions
I don't honestly think he hates Eminem the person/rapper, I think he hates the pedestal that his fans put him on, which makes him not objectively listen to his music.
@@katomoro12 lmao y’all just ignore all his good points and just ride with “oh he hates Eminem”. I’m an em fan but I thought we should be objective here LMAO.
Yea he'd be like the one type of dude who it'd be pointless. You're never changing his mind. I guess it has value if you wanted to expose him by constantly bringing to light his inconsistencies in his arguments or something.
Exactly! I’m very open minded but this guy bottom line doesn’t respect em and you won’t change his opinion. I wouldn’t even do this interview and give him any kinda play but I like how Stevie is breaking down what’s really being said and maybe open his ears a little bit.
His whole point is basically "I can't relate to Eminem so he's not good". That's the equivalent of me as a white boy saying "I can't relate to black life in California, being the son of a crack fiend and flexing in Versace, so Tupac is wack". Ain't the way music works my friend . I've never really been a fan of notorious BIG's music, I don't know why, I just don't get anything from it BUT I can still say he's in my top 5 MCs based on talent. Regardless of whether I like the over all product or not. This guy just doesn't get it.
Stevie doing some 🔥 interviews!! Keep it up. Let um know what’s really good! That clubhouse shit nobody was really checking him, at least he’s hearing you out to an extent. Salute to you sir!!
Mouse: "i stopped really listening at encore." Also mouse: "I dont think hes a chameleon like that at all." Also mouse: "all he has is silly antix." if you stopped checking anything how do you know....? I'm so confused.
This dude completely missed the point of Eminem's entrance, the reason why his first 3 albums are considered classics especially mmlp is because the whole album is a conceptual rap album, the album is an outlook through the eyes of a character who discusses his hellish life experiences with a dark twist by turning into comedy. That's why the Slim Shady character is considered crazy because he turns tragedy into comedy. Genius is an understatement. This ain't even a stretch or a deep outlook on the album, it's so obvious it smacks you in the face.
@@thaidixon3852 that's not what he said. That's like saying the 6th Sense was a great movie because of the twist ending and then you come in saying not every movie with a twist ending is great. Two completely different things.
Exactly Em isn't the only one he's ran his mouth about and made it clearly about skin color. Has made a pretty clear that if you're white your thoughts and opinions about rap or anything to do with it are invalid as well. Stevie has the patience of a saint to have done this discussion with this guy.
What’s funny is mouse talks about Eminem antics to make a name for himself.... no one knew who he was till the interview where he smack talks Eminem so who else uses antics?
Man exactly!! Him talking about being controversial to gain notoriety his so hypocritical. Never heard of the dude until the clubhouse chat. And the only time I ever see his name is cause he’s talking about Em. I love you Stevie but I don’t know if I can watch the full interview. I’m about to start your first Killer Remix breakdown but I can’t believe you have Mouse on it!! It’s sort of like watching a car wreck. You have to look even when you don’t want to. And that’s why Mouse is even known at all
Mouse is afraid to accept facts... How it is possible to talk with this 'prejudice' man? He can't agree wit fact that Eminem bodied almost every feature
What this guy will never understand is the double and triple entandres hidden in the lyrics. He takes the lyrics literally and takes everything for face value, and you can't even talk to someone like that.
@@dylantimm9567 he respects Eminem's ability to rap he just doesn't like the fanboys who suck him off. I have a revelation that most of his fans grew up without a father in their life. That's why they act so effeminate when you don't like what they like.
@@The-Endo-SymArmor he doesn’t respect shit about Em simply because he’s white. He says he respects it because he knows he has to. You can tell he has no respect for him whatsoever based on the things he says after he “compliments” Em. Furthermore, your revelation is dead wrong lol. Yes there is a part of his fan base that grew up without a father but when your fan base is that big that’s how it is. Also stop with the big words since you didn’t use effeminate right lmaoooo. People don’t like mouse because his opinion is based simply on Em’s race and he uses bullshit excuses that he calls facts to back it up. Go watch NoLifeShaqs most recent video. Please.
oh my god this guy is a living embodiment of em hater tropes. "he's white", "he fell off", "he only talks about his mom", "but he rhymes nonsensical stuff like rhinocerous blah blah"
Em is so far into the game that he has to find new words, make new puns and word play, and learn every possible style out there. If you listen to his catalogue, it's obvious
Your patience and ability to have a conversation with someone very dug into theirs beliefs is outstanding. Standing ovation to Stevie for not only, presenting good arguments with good examples while explaining his stance clearly, but also letting his guest feel welcome and not attacked for his beliefs. I've been following you for a while and I'm glad you have found your road forward keep up the great work.
Best bar ever. "Will take 40 soldiers stomping me to get a defeat (80 feet) on me" line up like toy soldiers , they all wind up on their back. Cmon man
@antoine lebrane Dads Gon Crazy he was rapping some real shit on there even tho he’s fooling around with his daughter on the record which I felt was really wholesome of The Goat to do👊🏽🐐🎯💯
I hear ya. You know right off jump when someone uses that argument or says "hi my name is" in a mocking way. Either is hatin or not listened to Ems catalog
"Youll never hear me talk bad about Ems success" Wasnt this the cat saying he didnt want Ems catalog in the culture at all and didnt care if 50 or d12 was ever on the scene at all? Pretty sure he said this all to Royce
what kills me is he coulda just said "I don't relate to him, but he is lyrically nice... i just don't relate" instead he said Em is mediocre... MEDIOCRE... bruh, you're favorite rappers are mediocre...they would never say that about em
@@mindofmike3117 🎯🎯 exactly what I say about him. Ima be 100% honest I be trolling the Stans a lot lol cuz they be DO be annoying & toxic (I’m not saying all Stans or even most, fanbases are just like politics, there’s usually a LOUD ass minority that is toxic as fuck) but I always add that I just personally don’t feel a lot of his music outside of his motivational type songs. But I would never in my life try to say he ain’t nice wit that 🖊 or that, as a white boy who raps, he didn’t kick in the door fa rappers like me that Vanilla Ice got thrown out of & locked behind him
He’s basically saying he likes rap without any substance; he wants to hear about “money & goes”. And he admitted he hasn’t listened in about 10 years, this guy is 🗑
Whenever Royce and em get on a track they each go hard af trying to best eachother. Most of the time they’re both talking shock value shit. How mouse gonna say Royce washed em on every record, and say he doesn’t rock with em’s crazy shit, when Royce is rapping about the same crazy shit on their collabs yet he claims Royce washed him. 😂
They need to listen to music because mouse just keeps saying the same shit and denying every point. The fact he's so much of a hater makes it really hard to listen to anything he says and take it seriously. 🤷♂️
Someone should sit Mouse down at Genius and have him read lyrics and throw in some em bars and watch as that man rate's them shits high. Then someone should tell him they were Em bars after
Guys its clearly this dude is clearly a closet eminem listener but by him saying bad things and arguing to everyone or disagreeing then it gets him seen by everyone even if its not good or make him popular that people knows his name. Kinda of when a murderer kills and then people know them some even jack them as sick as that is. Look at Manson or Bundy they had fans. But honestly and keep it a 100 this guy is a bigtime racist and hates that a whiteboy is killing the rapgame on amd at the top. Yeah African Americans started the culture but he saying it is strickly they music. Someone tell him if thats what he thinks then what do you say about all other music genres startes by whites..Plus im a big beleiver theres a difference between Rap and HipHop. Rap is like that get buck music get you hyoe for a fight like your Biggie and 2 Pac which some people even call that gangsta rap but hiphop is your music you would listen to in the club that make you want ro groove or dance bop. But he is a bigtine racist its clear he even brought up Trump but ask Ice Cube about Trump.
ONE GUY...who says he stopped listening too Eminem at Encore or before is convincing ANOTHER GUY who breaks down Eminem’s songs in depth bar for bar....that Eminem is a mediocre talent 🤣🤣.... That’s all that really needs too be said....
Ahhh mannn. I respect the way you handled this fool. Very respectful. Listened to the points he made fully to try and understand. When you and everyone else knew he was talking out of his a**
Stevie, you can't fix that type of ignorance. No matter what you say it is always gonna be black for him. In his first interview, he said he said he would take any black player basketball player over Larry bird. This fool has no objectivity.
The beauty of Em is that he’s not a one trick pony. He continues to change up his style on every single project he drops. It doesn’t always hit and sometimes a section of his fan base gets frustrated. I don’t ever want to hear Em on Pop/Rock beats ever again and I don’t ever want to hear him collab with another Pop artist but that’s just my PREFERENCE. It doesn’t mean the songs are trash or that the skills Em is showcasing are trash. It’s just not what I wanna hear. This is where Mouse is getting confused!!!
Well put! The versatility is what I like, too. Also, how he matches the artist he is featured with. P.S.: Personally, I like rock, so I like the "rocky" songs, too. And also most of his pop collabs. 😊
Seriously. I’m bipolar(technically cyclothymic meaning i have intense mood changes and sometimes have weekly moods of manic and depression as well) so I have Eminem songs that match every mood. It’s great!
This man said he'd take any black man in a 1v1 basketball game against a prime Larry Bird. He's outside his mind. He's the same dude as the white guys that think a black man can't be as good at something as a white man.
I'm glad you interviewed him. He had every chance to prove that he's not close minded about Eminem and didn't. Now I know for sure that I can ignore him when it comes to Eminem.
That intro made me laugh out loud. “Donald Trump” Trump was born into money. He’s a business man. Trump and Em have nun in common besides being white and rich.
@@chrisb.heckons637 yeah he's not a fan of trump for sure. He lost a lot of his fanbase when he spoke out about it. I'm a trump supporter, but nothing in this world will ever stop me from loving Eminem! Just because people have opposing political views should never act like a bitch and quit listening to their favorite artists just because they disagree
It's weird seeing someone so convinced that his perspective is the right one that he will twist himself into a pretzel to avoid acknowledging other points of view. Your taste in music is not an indication of someone's talent, it just means that their music is not for you. To think otherwise is just a sign of your own arrogance.
This clown really thinks he’s important. You are just loud, don’t get it twisted. Stevie I know you are a professional but some people need to be told straight out that they are clowns.
“What would it sound like Eminem pulling b!+ches” ... Plays Superman, A Kiss, Those Kind of Nights, Spend Some Time, etc” and that’s a weak ass lane anyway... “Would it sound like of Jay Z rapped about motivating people that don’t look like him?” 👀🧐
"That encore album was really bad" How? How was it bad? Does this dude know how to form a point, opinion, anything? What does this dude stand for at all?
Eminem has adapted more, evolved more, and never stopped being hungry to first and foremost impress himself, being addicted to that feeling of going higher than he's ever fucking been. Stevie, it's great to hear your journey of understanding and appreciating Em.
respect for staying calm during this stevie. this guy's a hater and that's ok. "You can't even get the clearances 'Cause real lyricists don't even respect you or take you serious It's not that we don't like you-we hate you, period"
He’s literally just talking about his preference the entire time. Like because he can’t relate to the stuff Eminem raps about that means he’s not one of the goats. OK 🙄
EXACTLY>...... you talking about music you like to ride too...that has nothing to do with lyrical content... that would be like reading shakespeare and saying "well i can't relate to to be or not to be so this shit is trash"... I woulda asked mouse, So do you gang bang? which set do you claim? Have you been shot before? cuz you saying you need to relate to someone to think they're fire but do you relate? I don't see no diamonds around your neck Mouse... I don't see no flags in ya pocket.... I don't see bitches all around you.... you don't relate to them neither you fucking clown
Dude brings up Em hoppin on Biggies track “Big was dead, his verse was already written” Kinda like Ems verses in renegade were already written and Jay had all the time in the world to write a better verse 🤡
i wont lie, i didnt like that stevie let him have that one but i guess in a debate like this sometimes you give the fool a little. Yeah mouse logic was off throughout his entire arguement.
Jay Z never writes but does his music off the dome and Jay let's people over spaz and even let Kanye spaz many times. Don't ever undermine Jay, if you really know your raps.
He says Rakım is his best rapper, didn't he listen to what Rakım said about Marshall?! I feel the hate in opinions and thoughts , even his vocal time while he talks about Em.
This clown bro, "50 washed Em on patiently waiting" You dont get what that record was about at all do you? You even listen to it? That record was produced my Em for the sole purpose of introducing 50 to the world, his whole verse was about 50.
Eminem rapping about pulling bitches? you mean like in 'Superman'? Stevie is right, Em is a chameleon. the subject matter may change, but Em can use the same skillset or better, that other rappers bring to the table.
That was such a stupid thing to say. So he's basically saying he likes music where rappers sound arrogant talking about money and bitches and if you're not doing that then it's trash. This guy is a fool
Okay at first I was thinking whatever you know he's just given his opinion but after a while I'm just like Mouse does not listen to people when they speak. He does not listen to Eminem apparently and he does not listen to Stevie's facts
It looks like he is closed minded on his own type of rap. If he sits and actually listens to Em’s catalog he might not rate him any higher but he should appreciate him way more.
You can’t debate the content of someone’s discography WITHOUT listening to their discography. Mouse has a picture in his head of what he THINKS Em raps about, but until he actually sits down and listens to a “book of rhymes”, a “chloraseptic (remix)” or a “Bang (leaked version)” he’s in no position to debate. That’s like only listening to “Big pimpin “, “can I get a” & “H to the izzo “ & saying “yeah Jay z’s music is good for clubbin be he can’t RAP rap.” Those were all HIGHLY commercial successes for Jay, they were for the masses, that’s what brings money in, but they say nothing about Jay’s lyrical ability. But then again mouse is the same dude that started the interview saying that Em was in his top 20 & fifteen minutes later said that Em was a “mediocre rapper at best”… yeah okay.
“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
― Mark Twain
Wasn't the other 1.
"Never get in a shouting match with an idiot , because those who aren't within earshot, won't know who the idiot is".
I know i butchered that but ya got the gist. Lol. ✌👍
I am going to be saying this from now on 👍
Don't try to play chess with a pigeon. It'll just kick the pieces over shit all over the board.
@@humanitysreject5233 “Never play chess with a pigeon.
The pigeon just knocks all the pieces over.
Then shits all over the board.
Then struts around like it won.” :)
@@PwnageFreak Ah thats the one. Couldn't remember the exact quote.
"If Eminem wasn't white, you'd give that win to Royce." he says, while giving the win to Royce because Eminem is white. This dude can't talk without bringing up race into it.
@Francis Earl agreed. it doesn't matter who takes it, you just know these guys push each other the the limit and it's always a joy to listen to. Royce em are my favorite together next to 50 and em
@Francis Earl i completely agree. Royce has always been the closest to Em on collabs and has gotten Em on some. I think they work so well together and make each other push their pens to the max. Like on Bad meets Evil. Great project, the back and forth , and finishing not only each other's bars but sometimes words is sick af.
They just have great chemistry. They been doing it together for so long and they trust and respect each other...
Damn, I'm still holding out hope for a sequel..
@Francis Earl Royce is a very versatile talented MC I think he can hold his own with anybody. When u are rapping with people on that level nobody is going to decisvely get over other on regular basis itll be back and forth. Hence why the Eminem Royce Collab albums make them work together so well. Steel sharpens steel.
Royce can easily rap along side em but... he doesn’t have the classic songs em does he does have a good catalog though if that makes sense also he isn’t an Artist / personality like em, wasn’t signed by dre or on the up & smoke tour. These are all big factors, it’s funny when people say if Hopsin was white he would be em, he wouldn’t because he didn’t write Stan, the way I am, the entire forgot about dre song, till I collapse....the list goes on. These comparisons just don’t work IMO.
@@melvsreacts I agree and hear ya.. but technically Royce passed up on Dres deal for Tommy boy or he woulda been on the up & smoke tour, and been able to blow up a lot faster had he been in that camp when they were running ish for about 5-6 yr period.
Stevie...this dude is a joke...he clearly does not listen Em and has never broken down his BARS or just doesn't understand wtf is going on
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💯💯💯🤡 he's a clown 😂😂😂
@@918_xDx dude is just ignorant beyond belief and it's frustrating af.. straight up said he doesn't listen to the catalog after encore...how are you gonna argue your point without knowing the rapper IN HIS PRIME. and he said 5'9 WASHES him on every feature/track??? Da fuq..???
Correctamundo! 💯
I cant take him seriously enough for a joke lol.
I wonder what Mouse thinks about Rakim saying: "if Eminem was black, he'd be considered the Muhammed Ali of rap."
He'd say he didn't mean Muhammad Ali the boxer he actually meant Muhammad Ali the white dude from the subrubs
His top 5 would all say that Em is a GOAT.
If Muhammad Ali was white ,he would be considered the Eminem of Boxing
@@myth3055 No Muhammad Ali's legacy is not just about boxing He was wayy more than that.
Same question was posed to Lord Jamar... He clearly said if Em was black he'd be the next ALI... but he white so he not...
Basically confirming what world thinks of him.
It’s crazy how whenever Em’s talents and skills are brought up, haters always try to keep the convo on relatability, when it has absolutely nothing to do with the level of skill and raw talent he has….
If they would look at his albums minus the "hits" they would see the content. It's a noticble and successful approach; make sure you have the singles for radio/to chart, and then you can fill the rest of the album with the technical and sometimes abstract songs and pile them with bars.
Em talks about more real shit than most people, it's just not trendy. Who can relate to fighting with their so? How about everyone flying private jets, hittin models/driving bugattis?
Bill Burr has a great bit on how bitches argue, it explains it all
People like this never bother to listen to rock bottom, mocking bird, like toy soldiers, sing for me, haillies song, cleaning out my closet, etc. Its always about whether they discuss how hard being black is, even if em grew up in poverty, was bullied bc of his race, his struggle with drugs.... if it doesn't include something about the police provoking them, or friends being shot in drive bys they won't bother listening.
@@can_can9119 they cant relate to Em, but they could relate to stuff they never did or experienced🤦♂
Stevie, I admire your patience. This dude was literally not listening to anything you were saying. The entire time he was just waiting for his turn to speak.
This is what he always does. He waits to respond he doesn’t listen.
Right. Same on the infamous Clubhouse chat. What's the point of having a conversation when you're not listening.
@@huro1845 Definitely, I agree with both of you. There's no point in having those conversations.
Yea bro... He's interviewing, he has to that's why he's always keeping rethinking about his words as you can see 😆
Mouse is so blindly hate him just because of his few songs he said things that get in your skin
He intentionally doing that bro
That's one of his lanes
Listen to criminal he answers all mouse's questions
Mouse here is the example of seeing without eyes and talking without thinking. He just hates Eminem. Period
and having a brain without using it.
I don't honestly think he hates Eminem the person/rapper, I think he hates the pedestal that his fans put him on, which makes him not objectively listen to his music.
@@monteellis4436 nah he just hates em bc he is white
@@katomoro12 lmao y’all just ignore all his good points and just ride with “oh he hates Eminem”. I’m an em fan but I thought we should be objective here LMAO.
@@a.j1632 what good points did he have though?
I'm usually open minded, but I for sure would never have a conversation with a dude like Mouse🥴.
Thank you BEAUTIFUL LADY... FOR REAL!! JAY-Z despite the respect as far as music he's out.
I'm with your on that Jennifer. Sometimes, some people just ain't worth it.
Yea he'd be like the one type of dude who it'd be pointless. You're never changing his mind. I guess it has value if you wanted to expose him by constantly bringing to light his inconsistencies in his arguments or something.
Exactly! I’m very open minded but this guy bottom line doesn’t respect em and you won’t change his opinion. I wouldn’t even do this interview and give him any kinda play but I like how Stevie is breaking down what’s really being said and maybe open his ears a little bit.
same as me
There is an old saying, “You can’t argue with stupid”.
He/she will just drag you down to her/his level
His whole point is basically "I can't relate to Eminem so he's not good".
That's the equivalent of me as a white boy saying "I can't relate to black life in California, being the son of a crack fiend and flexing in Versace, so Tupac is wack". Ain't the way music works my friend .
I've never really been a fan of notorious BIG's music, I don't know why, I just don't get anything from it BUT I can still say he's in my top 5 MCs based on talent. Regardless of whether I like the over all product or not. This guy just doesn't get it.
he said a lot more than that, why are you and many others lying?
I'm muting and letting it play, I can't listen to this man speak for another moment of my life but Stevie you deserve the full play.
Knight Nation stand up! LOL That's funny man. Dope, but funny!! 😆😆
I wish I read this comment 27 minutes and 20 seconds ago...
Stevie doing some 🔥 interviews!! Keep it up. Let um know what’s really good! That clubhouse shit nobody was really checking him, at least he’s hearing you out to an extent. Salute to you sir!!
Right! I can't watch this video. I didn't really need to hear his take I know everything I need to know
U a real one lol
“I come from twitter”
I think we’ve heard enough, that about sums it up. Good talk.
🤣
Lol. Hell yeah
Twatter gives you canceraids
Lmao EXACTLY
Can't take this dude Mouse seriously when he talks about Eminem he's keep trying to bring race into it but keeps saying it's not about race
Exactly. This is why I can't do sign Lord Jamar JR. He clout chasing trying to get people pissed
Dude, just wait lol. I watched the whole early release of this on the patreon and him doing that gets worse bro lol.
"These are antics only a White kid could get away with."
I don't think he even listens to rap.
Yeah like Esham didn't exist
Mouse: "i stopped really listening at encore."
Also mouse: "I dont think hes a chameleon like that at all."
Also mouse: "all he has is silly antix."
if you stopped checking anything how do you know....? I'm so confused.
Stevie calls him out on this later in the interview.
This dude completely missed the point of Eminem's entrance, the reason why his first 3 albums are considered classics especially mmlp is because the whole album is a conceptual rap album, the album is an outlook through the eyes of a character who discusses his hellish life experiences with a dark twist by turning into comedy. That's why the Slim Shady character is considered crazy because he turns tragedy into comedy. Genius is an understatement. This ain't even a stretch or a deep outlook on the album, it's so obvious it smacks you in the face.
Just because something is a conceptual rap album doesn’t mean it’s classic lmao that’s not the criteria
@@thaidixon3852 that's not what he said. That's like saying the 6th Sense was a great movie because of the twist ending and then you come in saying not every movie with a twist ending is great. Two completely different things.
I’m sure he didn’t miss that part. Kendrick Lamar put out Good Kid, MAAD City which was a conceptual album as well.
Btw Slim Shady is an alter ego not really a character but I understand what you mean👊🏽🐐🎯💯
@@thaidixon3852 lol! Hes white he cant rap as hes black? Lol
Bro if you don’t like white people just say it. Props to Stevie for sitting through this interview.
Facts! He says he’s not racist but can’t stop bringing race into a musical discussion
Exactly Em isn't the only one he's ran his mouth about and made it clearly about skin color. Has made a pretty clear that if you're white your thoughts and opinions about rap or anything to do with it are invalid as well. Stevie has the patience of a saint to have done this discussion with this guy.
What’s funny is mouse talks about Eminem antics to make a name for himself.... no one knew who he was till the interview where he smack talks Eminem so who else uses antics?
Fr I don’t know him.
I still don’t know him. The only Mouse I know is Joe Budden.
Man exactly!! Him talking about being controversial to gain notoriety his so hypocritical. Never heard of the dude until the clubhouse chat. And the only time I ever see his name is cause he’s talking about Em. I love you Stevie but I don’t know if I can watch the full interview. I’m about to start your first Killer Remix breakdown but I can’t believe you have Mouse on it!! It’s sort of like watching a car wreck. You have to look even when you don’t want to. And that’s why Mouse is even known at all
Mouse is afraid to accept facts... How it is possible to talk with this 'prejudice' man? He can't agree wit fact that Eminem bodied almost every feature
What this guy will never understand is the double and triple entandres hidden in the lyrics. He takes the lyrics literally and takes everything for face value, and you can't even talk to someone like that.
Seems like eminem lives rent free in mouse's head, this dude is the perfect example of not having a clue what he's talking about
His hating of em did get him to fame 😭😭
@@dylantimm9567 he respects Eminem's ability to rap he just doesn't like the fanboys who suck him off. I have a revelation that most of his fans grew up without a father in their life. That's why they act so effeminate when you don't like what they like.
@@The-Endo-SymArmor he doesn’t respect shit about Em simply because he’s white. He says he respects it because he knows he has to. You can tell he has no respect for him whatsoever based on the things he says after he “compliments” Em. Furthermore, your revelation is dead wrong lol. Yes there is a part of his fan base that grew up without a father but when your fan base is that big that’s how it is. Also stop with the big words since you didn’t use effeminate right lmaoooo. People don’t like mouse because his opinion is based simply on Em’s race and he uses bullshit excuses that he calls facts to back it up. Go watch NoLifeShaqs most recent video. Please.
@@dylantimm9567 I respect Eminem. I don't respect his Fanboys
@@The-Endo-SymArmor I don’t recall anyone talking about your opinion here
oh my god this guy is a living embodiment of em hater tropes.
"he's white", "he fell off", "he only talks about his mom", "but he rhymes nonsensical stuff like rhinocerous blah blah"
Em is so far into the game that he has to find new words, make new puns and word play, and learn every possible style out there. If you listen to his catalogue, it's obvious
This dude Mouse isnt making any valid points. He’s just running in circles. He keeps contradicting himself as well.
Your patience and ability to have a conversation with someone very dug into theirs beliefs is outstanding. Standing ovation to Stevie for not only, presenting good arguments with good examples while explaining his stance clearly, but also letting his guest feel welcome and not attacked for his beliefs.
I've been following you for a while and I'm glad you have found your road forward keep up the great work.
Yah he handled it very well
Best bar ever. "Will take 40 soldiers stomping me to get a defeat (80 feet) on me" line up like toy soldiers , they all wind up on their back. Cmon man
Mouse is a clown. He talks about pockets as if Em didn't lay down one of the greatest classics with The Way I Am.
True! Even Em’s silly tracks he is crazy nice in the pocket on songs like Big Weenie, Without Me, or Rainman!
There were no “antics” on The Eminem Show...he’s reaching to support his narrative
This
@antoine lebrane Dads Gon Crazy he was rapping some real shit on there even tho he’s fooling around with his daughter on the record which I felt was really wholesome of The Goat to do👊🏽🐐🎯💯
stevie u goated for going thru this convo with someone who thinks like a 10 YO
He said his opinion of Eminem hasn't changed since the release of encore... That was 17 years and 6 albums ago.
Cooked on patiently waiting. Wow
He talked about his mom and wife on like two albums, like 6 songs. Everything else wasn't about that. I hate that argument.
I hear ya. You know right off jump when someone uses that argument or says "hi my name is" in a mocking way. Either is hatin or not listened to Ems catalog
I don't understand where did they hear about him raping his mom....a line like that doesn't even exist
@@DjVtheJESUSsouja #2 on MMLP...tried quoting the lyrics but it looks like the comment got deleted
@@DjVtheJESUSsouja it exists on I'm Back lol
@@DjVtheJESUSsouja he says “”oh now he’s raping his own mother and we gave him the rolling stone cover””
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....until the color of a man's skin is of no more significance than the color of his eyes, Me say war...." Bob Marley
One of the greatest lyrics of all time man.
@@codyryan6664 you know !!
Bob Marley the real goat man that's real talk
You need to have this guy listen and breakdown an em song together!
This!!
I was thinking the same thing
That’ll be Perfect
Omg yes
Stevie should just sit back and let him try to break down the bars. See how many he missed.
"There is alot of rappers who are head and shoulders above him." Proceeds not to name a single one....
It’s like arguing with a four year old.
Every point this dude made translates into he's not black
You hit the nail right on the head. I can't stand Mouse's racist hating ass!
Exactly Jason smh🤦🏽♂️💯
"Youll never hear me talk bad about Ems success"
Wasnt this the cat saying he didnt want Ems catalog in the culture at all and didnt care if 50 or d12 was ever on the scene at all? Pretty sure he said this all to Royce
Dude is soo ignorant 🤣
Yeah you right
what kills me is he coulda just said "I don't relate to him, but he is lyrically nice... i just don't relate" instead he said Em is mediocre... MEDIOCRE... bruh, you're favorite rappers are mediocre...they would never say that about em
@@mindofmike3117 🎯🎯 exactly what I say about him. Ima be 100% honest I be trolling the Stans a lot lol cuz they be DO be annoying & toxic (I’m not saying all Stans or even most, fanbases are just like politics, there’s usually a LOUD ass minority that is toxic as fuck) but I always add that I just personally don’t feel a lot of his music outside of his motivational type songs. But I would never in my life try to say he ain’t nice wit that 🖊 or that, as a white boy who raps, he didn’t kick in the door fa rappers like me that Vanilla Ice got thrown out of & locked behind him
Stevie you killing it in this lane! Sincerely, thank you for the content bro
I can honestly say I enjoyed Stevie debating. It's always good to see someone who can debate the points articuately.
I wish you would’ve just came out and said he just doesn’t like Em because he’s white. 🤷🏻♀️
Snoop and Lil Wayne said Eminem ate Jay on Renegade. Not fans. They're his peers.
n nas say it too
Jay Z would say that Em is a GOAT. The only rappers that won’t say it is because they are jealous of Em success.
@@johnchase2165 not one oz of cap on that!
Just by the look at his face and how he talks, it's clear that he's not a deep thinker. Lol
Big Factssss tho...
He’s basically saying he likes rap without any substance; he wants to hear about “money & goes”.
And he admitted he hasn’t listened in about 10 years, this guy is 🗑
Whenever Royce and em get on a track they each go hard af trying to best eachother. Most of the time they’re both talking shock value shit. How mouse gonna say Royce washed em on every record, and say he doesn’t rock with em’s crazy shit, when Royce is rapping about the same crazy shit on their collabs yet he claims Royce washed him. 😂
It's obviosly only a problem when em dose it 🤦♂️
Stevie dawg you gotta be ready with Em lyrics. At the end of the day Em's lyrics are undeniably legendary.
I mean with the thinking like that I get why he calls himself a mouse
My Preconceptions before watching this is that mouse is a clown. Hoping he shows some maturity this time
Spoiler: He doesn't
Nop!
Ofcourse not he is a racist and jealous
U will be disappointed XD
They need to listen to music because mouse just keeps saying the same shit and denying every point. The fact he's so much of a hater makes it really hard to listen to anything he says and take it seriously. 🤷♂️
Someone should sit Mouse down at Genius and have him read lyrics and throw in some em bars and watch as that man rate's them shits high. Then someone should tell him they were Em bars after
Bro that would be amazing but idk who even this guy is
Someone PLEASE make this happen, haha
The look on his face would be priceless
Guys its clearly this dude is clearly a closet eminem listener but by him saying bad things and arguing to everyone or disagreeing then it gets him seen by everyone even if its not good or make him popular that people knows his name. Kinda of when a murderer kills and then people know them some even jack them as sick as that is. Look at Manson or Bundy they had fans. But honestly and keep it a 100 this guy is a bigtime racist and hates that a whiteboy is killing the rapgame on amd at the top. Yeah African Americans started the culture but he saying it is strickly they music. Someone tell him if thats what he thinks then what do you say about all other music genres startes by whites..Plus im a big beleiver theres a difference between Rap and HipHop. Rap is like that get buck music get you hyoe for a fight like your Biggie and 2 Pac which some people even call that gangsta rap but hiphop is your music you would listen to in the club that make you want ro groove or dance bop. But he is a bigtine racist its clear he even brought up Trump but ask Ice Cube about Trump.
Good idea
Em: Now, I would never diss my own mama just to get recognition
Take a second to listen 'fore you think this record is dissin!
“Em can get in any pocket and do it just as good if not better”. Perfectly said
ONE GUY...who says he stopped listening too Eminem at Encore or before is convincing ANOTHER GUY who breaks down Eminem’s songs in depth bar for bar....that Eminem is a mediocre talent 🤣🤣.... That’s all that really needs too be said....
Holy shit I can’t believe I’m actually pissed off and I don’t even know who Mouse even is🤯
Nobody does
You aint alone
Ahhh mannn. I respect the way you handled this fool. Very respectful. Listened to the points he made fully to try and understand. When you and everyone else knew he was talking out of his a**
When you droppin part 2!?
Stevie, you can't fix that type of ignorance. No matter what you say it is always gonna be black for him. In his first interview, he said he said he would take any black player basketball player over Larry bird. This fool has no objectivity.
People say all eminem talks about killing and r a ping his mother and baby mother, but they cant list 3 songs where eminem is doing that.
The beauty of Em is that he’s not a one trick pony. He continues to change up his style on every single project he drops. It doesn’t always hit and sometimes a section of his fan base gets frustrated. I don’t ever want to hear Em on Pop/Rock beats ever again and I don’t ever want to hear him collab with another Pop artist but that’s just my PREFERENCE. It doesn’t mean the songs are trash or that the skills Em is showcasing are trash. It’s just not what I wanna hear. This is where Mouse is getting confused!!!
Well put! The versatility is what I like, too. Also, how he matches the artist he is featured with.
P.S.: Personally, I like rock, so I like the "rocky" songs, too. And also most of his pop collabs. 😊
Seriously. I’m bipolar(technically cyclothymic meaning i have intense mood changes and sometimes have weekly moods of manic and depression as well) so I have Eminem songs that match every mood. It’s great!
Mouse has changed his tone 🤣🤣 from being pure biest now he's saying em can rap contradiction at its finest lol don't give that weesle any publicity
Am black but
From the club house video I can't trust this guy EVER, he doesn't sound smart enough
This man said he'd take any black man in a 1v1 basketball game against a prime Larry Bird. He's outside his mind. He's the same dude as the white guys that think a black man can't be as good at something as a white man.
Facts, that clubhouse interview already puts him in a specific type of box for me and I can't take him serious.
Your gut feeling was right
This is so true man 🖖🏼....🖤
@@69nites facts when he that .about Larry bird it was no point of watching the rest of video after that
Mouse: Rakim is the best
Rakim: if Em were black, he would be considered the GOAT
as soon as he said Music to be Murdered By is a bad album, he has zero credibility.
I'm glad you interviewed him. He had every chance to prove that he's not close minded about Eminem and didn't. Now I know for sure that I can ignore him when it comes to Eminem.
That intro made me laugh out loud. “Donald Trump” Trump was born into money. He’s a business man. Trump and Em have nun in common besides being white and rich.
not to mention doesnt Em dislike trump? Correct me if im wrong but in the revival album lot of political stuff there right
True LOL but I'm not sure if Trump could spit bars, but it would be interesting to watch LMAO
@@chrisb.heckons637 yeah he's not a fan of trump for sure. He lost a lot of his fanbase when he spoke out about it. I'm a trump supporter, but nothing in this world will ever stop me from loving Eminem! Just because people have opposing political views should never act like a bitch and quit listening to their favorite artists just because they disagree
Trump was born into money, yet he's still an awful businessman. Hence why he was broke until he grifted his supporters for money.
your forgetting both think its supposed to be grabbed, so its called SNATCH
It's weird seeing someone so convinced that his perspective is the right one that he will twist himself into a pretzel to avoid acknowledging other points of view.
Your taste in music is not an indication of someone's talent, it just means that their music is not for you. To think otherwise is just a sign of your own arrogance.
well put
Yep
This guy just came on and lost all respect as a hip hop fan lol this guy has no idea what he’s talking about 😂
Mouse sounds like he mad becuase he wrote slim but he still ain't call him, even ignored the two letters he sent back in autumn.
This clown really thinks he’s important. You are just loud, don’t get it twisted. Stevie I know you are a professional but some people need to be told straight out that they are clowns.
This guy Mouse is a goof imo. “Plenty rappers head and shoulders” over Em...gtfoh lol!
I thought he was gonna be like I gotta few rappers I like head and shoulders over Em. Dude said "PLENTY"!! LMAO
@@oDiiJei he said plenty... then named none... he brought up rakim then did NOTHING to solidify his point... everything he said was subjective.
"What's your talent, oh, critiquing my talent.."
You can just tell when someone truly hates someone just because they do.
Again! This is why I follow you Mr knight! I appreciate your logic.
I love how mouse is race baiting and he has white wrestlers on his t-shirt 😂😂😂
“What would it sound like Eminem pulling b!+ches” ... Plays Superman, A Kiss, Those Kind of Nights, Spend Some Time, etc”
and that’s a weak ass lane anyway... “Would it sound like of Jay Z rapped about motivating people that don’t look like him?” 👀🧐
Even Redman..said he dont got lady jams..like method
Em’s wordplay is almost unmatched.
He’s called mouse for a reason, nobody can hear him.
"That encore album was really bad" How? How was it bad? Does this dude know how to form a point, opinion, anything? What does this dude stand for at all?
Mouse is the perfect for this dude. He speaks but hold no weight.
Haha good one. He squeaks lol
😂😂🤣
I love Royce, but i cant believe this guy said Royce has washed em for the past 20 years!
Facts and I'm more of a Royce fan than em and I know that's b.s
It's a waste of time talking to somebody like this.
"Do not speak to fools. They scorn the wisdom of your words."
Eminem has adapted more, evolved more, and never stopped being hungry to first and foremost impress himself, being addicted to that feeling of going higher than he's ever fucking been. Stevie, it's great to hear your journey of understanding and appreciating Em.
We absolutely don’t need a part 2. This guy just talking without thinking. His hate for em is bigger then anything.
respect for staying calm during this stevie. this guy's a hater and that's ok.
"You can't even get the clearances
'Cause real lyricists don't even respect you or take you serious
It's not that we don't like you-we hate you, period"
He’s literally just talking about his preference the entire time. Like because he can’t relate to the stuff Eminem raps about that means he’s not one of the goats. OK 🙄
EXACTLY>...... you talking about music you like to ride too...that has nothing to do with lyrical content... that would be like reading shakespeare and saying "well i can't relate to to be or not to be so this shit is trash"... I woulda asked mouse, So do you gang bang? which set do you claim? Have you been shot before? cuz you saying you need to relate to someone to think they're fire but do you relate? I don't see no diamonds around your neck Mouse... I don't see no flags in ya pocket.... I don't see bitches all around you.... you don't relate to them neither you fucking clown
How much of eminem do you think he has listened to anyway...
Dude brings up Em hoppin on Biggies track “Big was dead, his verse was already written” Kinda like Ems verses in renegade were already written and Jay had all the time in the world to write a better verse 🤡
i wont lie, i didnt like that stevie let him have that one but i guess in a debate like this sometimes you give the fool a little. Yeah mouse logic was off throughout his entire arguement.
That’s a good point. Holy shit didn’t even think about that
Jay Z never writes but does his music off the dome and Jay let's people over spaz and even let Kanye spaz many times. Don't ever undermine Jay, if you really know your raps.
So his number one (Rakim) acknowledged Eminem skills and he don’t listen to him?
Salute your patience with this character my G....
#WatUpWatUpWatUp
#KnightNation
He’s racist. If em was black he’d love him.
I’ll humor you.
It would sound like, Superman.
Agree lol ... Mouse is a clown
I feel like he just doesn't want to accept that Eminem is a top rapper he wants to discredit every point given
He says Rakım is his best rapper, didn't he listen to what Rakım said about Marshall?! I feel the hate in opinions and thoughts , even his vocal time while he talks about Em.
WHAAAAAAAT HE JUST COMPARED A POLITIC TO A RAPPER WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK AHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHA WHY DID I EVEN WATCH THIS
Mouse needs to thank Eminem for giving him a small spotlight to be seen. 😂
For real, Eminem giving niggas careers without even knowing
Appreciate u Stevie for doing this!! But I think its just impossible to have a reasonable conversation with this dude bc he is just a hater..
This clown bro, "50 washed Em on patiently waiting" You dont get what that record was about at all do you? You even listen to it? That record was produced my Em for the sole purpose of introducing 50 to the world, his whole verse was about 50.
I kno y u did this it needed to be done thanks stevie #stan
Stevie you got props for sitting through this whole thing. Keep talking yo shit
Eminem rapping about pulling bitches? you mean like in 'Superman'?
Stevie is right, Em is a chameleon. the subject matter may change, but Em can use the same skillset or better, that other rappers bring to the table.
That was such a stupid thing to say. So he's basically saying he likes music where rappers sound arrogant talking about money and bitches and if you're not doing that then it's trash. This guy is a fool
Okay at first I was thinking whatever you know he's just given his opinion but after a while I'm just like Mouse does not listen to people when they speak. He does not listen to Eminem apparently and he does not listen to Stevie's facts
It looks like he is closed minded on his own type of rap. If he sits and actually listens to Em’s catalog he might not rate him any higher but he should appreciate him way more.
Man after he said “mediocre at best” your face changed 😭
You can’t debate the content of someone’s discography WITHOUT listening to their discography.
Mouse has a picture in his head of what he THINKS Em raps about, but until he actually sits down and listens to a “book of rhymes”, a “chloraseptic (remix)” or a “Bang (leaked version)” he’s in no position to debate.
That’s like only listening to “Big pimpin “, “can I get a” & “H to the izzo “ & saying “yeah Jay z’s music is good for clubbin be he can’t RAP rap.” Those were all HIGHLY commercial successes for Jay, they were for the masses, that’s what brings money in, but they say nothing about Jay’s lyrical ability.
But then again mouse is the same dude that started the interview saying that Em was in his top 20 & fifteen minutes later said that Em was a “mediocre rapper at best”… yeah okay.