The 10 Oldest Cities in the UK

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  • Опубликовано: 26 май 2023
  • Did you know there are ten cities in the UK whose city status is said to have been held since 'time immemorial' according to ancient prescriptive right afforded to them by the presence of an Anglican cathedral? This video explores all ten in depth, complete with the story of how each came to be.
    As stated in the video, the list order is not chronological as no one knows the order! Rather, the cities are listed from north to south.
    All footage is my own, and originates from my flagship channel, 4K Explorer, which you can check out here: -- / @4kexplorer

Комментарии • 618

  • @AlexinGreatBritain
    @AlexinGreatBritain  Год назад +38

    Just to clear up some confusion: the premise of this list is cities with the longest unbroken city status. So that means Roman history is essentially a red herring in this case as the Romans abandoned Britain in the 5th century.

    • @robtyman4281
      @robtyman4281 Год назад +13

      Ah, so this is why Chester doesn't appear here then? As it should really be in this list.

    • @peterharrison966
      @peterharrison966 Год назад +8

      Totally Agree, If Chester not on this List then I Reckon the List Is Wrong,But The we all Entitled to Believe What Is Right or Wrong

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  Год назад +10

      @@robtyman4281 It is slightly baffling as to how people are mostly kicking off about Chester in particular, considering Chester Cathedral was an abbey church until the 16th century.

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  Год назад +5

      @@peterharrison966 How is it wrong? The Diocese of Chester formed in 1541.

    • @EdwardThomas-mn5vd
      @EdwardThomas-mn5vd Год назад +10

      Chester should be on the list and that is final.!

  • @stevenhoughton1406
    @stevenhoughton1406 Год назад +25

    I live in Birmingham and I have never been to Any of these places ever. I'm going to make it my mission to try and visit as many of these places as possible. I really do need to get out and explore more.

    • @MartinMilnerUK
      @MartinMilnerUK Год назад +5

      You do. I am quite surprised you have not been to York. The train links are excellent.

    • @heliotropezzz333
      @heliotropezzz333 21 день назад +2

      Worcester is close to you. I grew up in Brum and have been to all these cities except for Bangor, Winchester and Lichfield. I like exploring the UK and had always wanted to visit the latter 2 but haven't yet got round to it (plans to visit Winchester earlier this year were thwarted). Lichfield was the home of Dr Samuel Johnson, a favourite historical character. I didn't know much about Bangor before or that it was so old. Now I want to visit it.

    • @marieascot
      @marieascot 4 дня назад

      Lichfield is a must

    • @superderv
      @superderv 3 дня назад +2

      I'm from Birmingham but moved to Lichfield 3 years ago... It's a 30 minuet drive from Birmingham City centre! Come and say hi

  • @mrbutch308
    @mrbutch308 Год назад +59

    I am an American, living in the state of Pennsylvania. In my state there are towns and cities bearing the names of every one of these cities in Great Britain, with the exception of Lichfield. Most are in eastern Pennsylvania near Philadelphia and one is in the west part of the state near Pittsburgh.

    • @darthwiizius
      @darthwiizius Год назад +7

      Well, Penn was quite influential in the State named after him (they probably shouldn't have named an island after him though), but it's not uncommon to see British influences. Even Washington is an Anglo-Norman surname (you can tell the difference between Anglo-Saxon surnames and Norman in general because Anglo-Saxons tended toward vocational names like Walker, Smith, Field etc where Normans tended toward topological based surnames like Washington (a town in County Durham) etc) harking from County Durham and the Washington heraldic shield of stars and stripes is featured in stained glass windows at Durham Cathedral, no doubt the family were involved in financing the build as this was a mechanism for raising the profile and status of both the place a cathedral was built but also of those who paid for it to be built.

    • @Stand663
      @Stand663 Год назад +3

      Wasn’t the original US capital Pennsylvania before it became Washington. ? I think I read it somewhere long ago.

    • @darthwiizius
      @darthwiizius Год назад +1

      @@Stand663
      Philly?

    • @mrbutch308
      @mrbutch308 Год назад +3

      @@Stand663 Actually New York City was the first capital of the newly independent USA in 1785. That is where George Washington took his oath of office as First President. The capital moved to Philadelphia from 1790 through 1800. After that the city of Washington was purposely built to be the young nation's capital. A few other cities served as capital, such as Baltimore, but for only brief periods.

    • @mrbutch308
      @mrbutch308 Год назад +2

      @@Stand663 There was representative government in each of the colonies before the Revolution. After the Treaty of Paris, in which Great Britain conceded defeat and recognized American independence, there were lengthy discussions and debates in Philadelphia where the Continental Congress was meeting. The Founding Fathers - men like Dr. Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Alexander Hamilton and the others - were brilliant scholars whose erudition was recognized in the courts of Europe. The drafting of the Constitution of the United States was a painstaking process and no they were not just making things up as they went along; they understood law, government, democracy, history, etc. It is the Constitution which spells out the role and responsibilities of the president, and this form of government is a republic, not a monarchy, and functions without the royal protocols or offices.

  • @user-hv5en4mu9s
    @user-hv5en4mu9s Год назад +11

    I learn something new every time I join your channel Alex, just love all this information often about familiar places. Looking forward to more of your super content on this channel

  • @brucewilliams8714
    @brucewilliams8714 Год назад +35

    This was great. I have been to all these cities in my visits to Britain, because of their cathedrals. Indeed, I've visited every ancient cathedral; plus some that began as a parish church; and the three modern purpose-built - Liverpool, Coventry and Guildford.
    I really appreciated your research and presentation.
    Greetings from Australia.

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  Год назад +4

      Hey, thanks for the kind words! Liverpool's probably my favourite modern(ish) cathedral.

    • @russell-di8js
      @russell-di8js Месяц назад +2

      Saint Asaph in North Wales is atop a hillock in the flat Vale of Clwyd & in my opinion as a local is well worth a visit

    • @tocaat2410
      @tocaat2410 17 дней назад

      Good on ya for mentioning Guildford, which is my local cathedral (one of a very few built in modern times - I remember wandering about the unfinished building when still a school kid. I emigrated with family to Australia (Melbourne) while still attending school. Lived there until early 30s, when I returned to England for career reasons (now live about 30 minutes away from Guildford).

    • @sifridbassoon
      @sifridbassoon 13 дней назад

      I'm jealous

  • @gregorywhite9095
    @gregorywhite9095 Год назад +6

    A beautiful video...very well done!

  • @limitless5000
    @limitless5000 5 месяцев назад +3

    Such a relaxing and interesting way to spend 12 minutes. I’d love to hear some deeper dives. Thank you.

  • @Arlene-st5is
    @Arlene-st5is Год назад +2

    thank you Alex, such a wealth of information!

  • @lesliekime7567
    @lesliekime7567 Год назад

    Interesting and informative, enjoyed that video and subscribed.

  • @kindnesscake2819
    @kindnesscake2819 Год назад +6

    Just found your channel, thank you... very enjoyable content 👍

  • @doriskarloff964
    @doriskarloff964 Год назад

    Very interesting - thanks for posting. The closed captions are a hoot.

  • @martinlee5604
    @martinlee5604 Год назад +1

    This is excellent. One of the best videos I've watched.

  • @larryjones-emery807
    @larryjones-emery807 Год назад +1

    Thank you for the excellent data and Commentary!

  • @susanlegeza7562
    @susanlegeza7562 Год назад +1

    I love all the history i am learning from your channel! Thank you!

  • @Maggy47
    @Maggy47 Год назад +8

    York is my favourite city to visit however Durham is close to me and never tire of shopping there

    • @mikecoulson9709
      @mikecoulson9709 6 дней назад

      York is my birthplace, I’ld love to visit Durham 😊

  • @waynemillward2807
    @waynemillward2807 Год назад

    Very informative and interesting facts thankyou 👍 😊.

  • @suecox2308
    @suecox2308 Год назад +6

    Fascinating--some surprises here--I didn't realize Hereford was so ancient--thank you!

    • @vordman
      @vordman Год назад +3

      My home city. We have a copy of the Magna Carta, the Mappa Mundi and the largest chained library in the world. But I agree, it often gets overlooked and it's probably more famous these days as the home of the SAS and Bulmers Cider!

    • @faithlesshound5621
      @faithlesshound5621 Год назад +2

      "Here" was what the Anglo-Saxons called an army: it's cognate with the modern German "Heer."

  • @CrimsonSlytherin
    @CrimsonSlytherin Месяц назад +3

    Such beautiful places too ❤ I an so grateful for the preservation of such architecture.

  • @bobsyeruncle5557
    @bobsyeruncle5557 Год назад +2

    Great video, really interesting. You have remarkable patience with all these people who think their city should have been included

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  Год назад

      You noticed? Haha, thanks! I didn't think people would be this protective over some Roman ruins!

  • @England.123.N.U.F.C.
    @England.123.N.U.F.C. 18 дней назад

    Enjoyed that mate, cheers..

  • @martinwarner1178
    @martinwarner1178 Год назад

    Super video. Thank you. Peace be unto you.

  • @tri5ia
    @tri5ia Год назад +4

    Great video. The Roman name for Canterbury, Durovernum Cantiacorum, is a Latinised version of the Brythonic Duroernum (a rough approx) meaning Fort of the Alders. Canterbury is home to the oldest church in England still in use as a church today, St Martin’s. It was built in 597 but bricks from Roman ruins were used in the construction. The Roman road of Watling Street runs through Canterbury. When the Saxons arrived they kept the Cantiacorum part of the name, anglicising it to Cantwarebyrig - Fortress of the Men of Kent.

  • @philiprobinson2011
    @philiprobinson2011 Год назад +21

    I know you are looking at the oldest recorded Cities, but I am surprised Colchester did not make the list. Of course technically Colchester only officially became a city in 2022, but if you go much further back in time there is a twist. Colchester was originally founded by the Romans as a Colonia in AD49 by the Emperor Claudius, and of course a Colonia was to the Romans what a City is to us today. So as Colchester became a city in AD49, that predates any other city in England, even though it has not held city status for all of the intervening period.

    • @beccabbea2511
      @beccabbea2511 Год назад +4

      I'm pleased you pointed that out as Colchester is the oldest recorded town/city in Britain.

    • @SparkAttack86
      @SparkAttack86 Год назад +3

      This is correct. By record, Colchester is written as a colonia and was also recorded as a city in Domesday in 1086. Colchester is the oldest city and first capital of Britain. Its recent city status was acknowledged as a reinstating its ancient lost city status

    • @kubhlaikhan2015
      @kubhlaikhan2015 20 дней назад

      Also effectively Britain's capital city for a time too - the first base of Roman power in Britain. Which is why Boadicea burned it to the ground and why The Morte D'Arthur names it as the restored capital in the early dark ages. Camulo-dunum.

  • @gazbrucia1654
    @gazbrucia1654 Год назад +11

    a very well researched and presented clip. I was fortunate to spend 20 years living in York, spectacular. Maybe you should do a follow up Cities 11-20.

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  Год назад +3

      Thanks, that's not a bad idea. And yeah, York is amazing!

    • @DS-um9hi
      @DS-um9hi Год назад +5

      ​@@AlexinGreatBritainif you do, please leave Chester out, I am having fun reading all the frothing comments! 😅

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  Год назад +4

      @@DS-um9hi Haha, that'd be the ultimate troll!

  • @TheEulerID
    @TheEulerID Год назад +11

    Lichfield is the only remaining medieval cathedral with a triple spire, but Lincoln Cathedral had one until 1548 which, at 525 feet, was the tallest building in the world for over 200 years.

    • @risvegliato
      @risvegliato Год назад

      yes indeed! I live in Lichfield Diocese, but Lincoln is my favourite cathedral by far. It fell down more than once I think?

    • @LewisLittle66
      @LewisLittle66 Год назад +1

      @@risvegliato It did indeed (not the whole cathedral, but the spire). First time, the whole roof including the spire was destroyed by fire in 1124. The re-built spire fell during an earthquake in 1185 and again it was re-built. This one collapsed in 1548 and was not re-built due to prohibitive cost.

    • @andrewwaddoups3544
      @andrewwaddoups3544 Месяц назад +1

      The Litchfield cathedral had a twin in Coventry, as it was the bishopric of Litchfield and Coventry, and the King of Mercia, Leofric was buried with his wife Godiva there. Coventry cathedral was destroyed by Henry VIII in the dissolution of the monasteries in the 16th Century. Coventry was established by King Offa, and it is believed that is where Coventry gets its name from, Offa's Tree. Coventry is a city of equal age as Litchfield, and was also a County at one stage.

  • @diannewheatleygiliotti8513
    @diannewheatleygiliotti8513 Год назад +1

    Outstanding. Thank you.

  • @stevien196
    @stevien196 Год назад +44

    Perhaps a useful addition might be Colchester which has now become a city. It certainly predates London and was formerly known as the oldest town in England.

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  Год назад +8

      Oh it's undoubtedly one of the oldest, if not THE oldest. The only reason I've not included it here is one of the conditions is having unbroken city status since 'time immemorial'.

    • @mike-js2510
      @mike-js2510 Год назад +5

      Technically it is the oldest RECORDED town in England, due to a document located in the Vatican Library. Was also the capital of Roman England prior to it moving to, I think, Winchester.

    • @catherinesmalley8587
      @catherinesmalley8587 Год назад +1

      As you say it's only just been made a city, then it doesn't qualify as being one of the ten oldest cities. One of the ten newest cities yes but not one of the ten oldest...

    • @flashtheoriginal
      @flashtheoriginal Год назад +4

      Yes Camoludunum (spelling) the Roman capital of Britain. I like Colchester, loads of history excellently observed/preserved

    • @PreservationEnthusiast
      @PreservationEnthusiast Год назад

      ​@@flashtheoriginal Colchester is an absolute dump.
      Caesaromagus, Chelmsford >>>>> Colchester
      Chelmsford is both an older City than Colchester and it has a very nice cathedral. It is both the administrative centre and route centre in Essex.
      In all city related respects, Chelmsford beats Colchester with ease!

  • @nealeraleigh8239
    @nealeraleigh8239 Год назад

    Very interesting and very well researched

  • @AJK72
    @AJK72 Год назад +1

    Interesting video. I live in Worcester and know some of its history so had a hunch it would be on the list.

  • @EKsUrbanTracks
    @EKsUrbanTracks Год назад +1

    This was fascinating.

  • @traceystones5876
    @traceystones5876 17 дней назад

    Very interesting I going to have to listen again

  • @adolforodolfo6929
    @adolforodolfo6929 Год назад

    I'm always pleased and grateful to learn something - and I just have. Thank you.

  • @user-ot7fc8jo8x
    @user-ot7fc8jo8x Год назад

    Awesome 👍👏👌

  • @morgankarlsson6505
    @morgankarlsson6505 Год назад

    Interresting video. Romans both founded and conqured cities and when they left in the 400s, history becomes more tricky to keep track of. Great video.

  • @lesleymcshanemitchell9651
    @lesleymcshanemitchell9651 Год назад

    Thank you Really enjoyed this

  • @johnholt890
    @johnholt890 Год назад

    Great stuff I am fortunate to live 5 miles from Wells and am a bit of a cathedral nut. In England and Wales only Anglican ones I have not yet got to are Blackburn and Bradford - hope to get to those one day. Done at least half the French ones, and quite a few in Italy, Germany and Spain.

  • @derekblythe6143
    @derekblythe6143 Год назад +4

    When the domesday book was introduced in 1086 carlisle was part of scotland & not included in the norman survey,probably why we weren't mentioned.

  • @SiL-uj2zl
    @SiL-uj2zl Год назад +6

    Surprised Norwich didn't make the list,especially as it has always been the de facto capital of East Anglia...

  • @avagrego3195
    @avagrego3195 Год назад

    thank you so very much, very interesting delightful

  • @lizscott6911
    @lizscott6911 Год назад

    I enjoyed this video. I realised there was 4 I hafn't been to. So those adventures lay ahead.

  • @ShakeelAhmed-pr7gn
    @ShakeelAhmed-pr7gn Год назад +10

    Beautiful cathedrals.

  • @carmenfinn7521
    @carmenfinn7521 Год назад +9

    Don't get me wrong, London is very majestic but I do prefer the smaller places. They are all so beautiful! I really need to put Wells and Winchester on my bucket list!!!

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  Год назад

      They're both great for day trips if you get the opportunity!

    • @MartinMilnerUK
      @MartinMilnerUK Год назад

      You will find the centre of Wells absolutely stunning with the amazing cathedral (and especially the W. face), the Bishop's Palace and gardens and the adjacent almshouses complex. So, so amazing and if you're fit you can walk to nearby Glastonbury and Cheddar Gorge. A lovely part of the south-west.

  • @KevinTheCaravanner
    @KevinTheCaravanner Год назад

    @AlexinGreatBritain you must have got up early in the morning to film so many sequences without people in the frame, especially York. I’m a bit of a history nut and I learned so much from this video. Thank you.

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  Год назад +1

      That's very kind, thanks! Yeah some of the footage was shot quite early, but it was partially filmed during the pandemic period as well, at least in the case of York.

  • @tealeafuk
    @tealeafuk Год назад

    Great video enjoyed it. Been to many of them but all look beautiful. However i think you missed one because I know for fact this city is older then York.

  • @efootball_clipz
    @efootball_clipz Год назад +1

    Very well narrated.

  • @harrisonofthenorth
    @harrisonofthenorth Год назад +9

    Most excellent, I'd consider adding Glasgow to the list, where Glasgow Cathedral is considered to have been re-established in the reign of David I, which although originally founded as a monastic cell in the 7th century, would seem to be older than some of the others that you mentioned. The difficulty, of course, is the controversy over whether David I established it during his reign, or re-established it during his reign. Perhaps it should just be in a special category called 'Noteworthy', particularly because it's founder was a Celtic bishop and who for a while had his Celtic seat there.

    • @malcopops4
      @malcopops4 Год назад +2

      This does raise the problem that the definition of great Britain has changed so much during the time frame. Would probably be better to use current definition of Britain & current definition of city & just look at which have the oldest evidence of settlement. Would probably end up in a very long list though!

    • @harrisonofthenorth
      @harrisonofthenorth Год назад +2

      @@malcopops4 The current and previous definitions of Britain seem to be the same - if a place has a cathedral, or is designated as a city, then it is a city; and Britain is Britain, that place that is named after the Pretanike and consists substantially of Albion and it's surrounding islands. You'll have to expound because I don't see your point. Unless you are just implying using comparative population numbers and assigning a threshold to the ancient world where meeting it constituted a city irrespective of modern-day definitions. But then there are ancient cities that are defined by that which is inside an ancient wall, called a walled city. Someone would have to do a study, however I think that from the moment that a place had a cathedral that it was a city, even in the ancient world, because the simple matter that it had the seat of a bishop, it must have been substantial in population numbers, bishops don't build cathedrals in hamlets.

    • @maryannedouglas
      @maryannedouglas 6 дней назад

      @@malcopops4 Unless you're confusing england with Great Britain or the UK, i don't see where you're coming from. Great Britain is defined as the big island in a group of islands off of Europe's west coast. That hasn't changed, has it? And Glasgow is a city on the island of Great Britain, or has it moved?

    • @malcopops4
      @malcopops4 6 дней назад

      @@maryannedouglas I was confusing the terms great Britain & United Kingdom (which Scotland & Northern Ireland have been in&out of during the timeframe in question).
      My point about current definition of a city is that it would make sense to take the list of places which are currently cities (i think there's 70-80ish) and ask which 10 of these were inhabited first. But clearly my opinion is worthless as I don't even know what the words Great Britain mean!

    • @maryannedouglas
      @maryannedouglas 6 дней назад

      @@malcopops4 Neither Scotland nor Northern Ireland have ever not been part of the UK. The only country to leave the UK was Ireland in 1922.
      Regardless, Glasgow has always been on the island of Great Britain, and has (since Union) been part of the Kingdom of Great Britain and the UK.
      Point being; the OP was right to include Glasgow as the clip's title says UK, not england.

  • @NSYresearch
    @NSYresearch 20 дней назад +2

    As a resident of Wells I love having the cathedral here.

    • @MsCheesemonster13
      @MsCheesemonster13 18 дней назад

      If I had to choose my favourite cathedral in the UK, it would be Wells. You are so lucky. 😊

  • @RyderSontaig
    @RyderSontaig 6 дней назад

    I love this sort of stuff. I've gotta get over there one day.

  • @juni.Th17
    @juni.Th17 Год назад +7

    4:01 beautiful cathedral in Litchfield

  • @nigelholroyd2942
    @nigelholroyd2942 11 дней назад

    Excellent presentation,
    well done sir. much appreciated. 👍
    ( I thought LINCOLN was olde & pre Roman too, but appreciate your analysis)

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  11 дней назад

      Thanks! Lincoln was extremely important to the Romans, but in terms of unbroken city status it just misses out.

  • @MsDaver1000
    @MsDaver1000 Год назад +3

    I was rooting for St Albans. Great video.

  • @384lipsy
    @384lipsy Год назад

    Wonderful

  • @Madonnalitta1
    @Madonnalitta1 Год назад +2

    I didn't know Bangor was ancient.
    Interesting video.

  • @nwtn9878
    @nwtn9878 Год назад +55

    Did you forget about Chester?

    • @p.millard557
      @p.millard557 Год назад +11

      I was defintely expecting Chester to be included.

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  Год назад +15

      It became a city in 1541 when the Diocese of Chester was formed.

    • @samhwilson
      @samhwilson Год назад +9

      @@AlexinGreatBritain if you’re going off the presence of an Anglican cathedral then this is untrue. The first bishop to have his cathedra based in Chester was in 1075.

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  Год назад +7

      @@samhwilson Right, but the see was transferred to Coventry later that century. So I made the discretionary decision not to include it in the top 10.

    • @josephfredbill
      @josephfredbill Год назад +3

      So you are making the decision on when the place became a city not on when the place was first settled (eg by the Romans) ? A dfferent categorisation could have been “the oldest settlements that are now cities” which would have pulled in Chester because of the roman settlement (indeed Lancaster as well and probably some others)

  • @electraflame144
    @electraflame144 Год назад +6

    Interesting thanks but very surprised not to see Edinburgh here. 🌟🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @robinhughes8822
    @robinhughes8822 18 дней назад +5

    How come Milton Keynes wasn’t mention ,the way the vikings crafted cows from concrete will for ever baffle historians

  • @yettimannettii2039
    @yettimannettii2039 Год назад

    Have you heard of HallEnd or Corbin Hall in Warwickshire? Tring to find out if these were or are homes or villages or communities?

  • @jeniferallan6693
    @jeniferallan6693 15 дней назад +1

    I am very proud that I studied at King Alfred's College and graduated at Winchester Cathedral 😊

  • @jacklovejoy5290
    @jacklovejoy5290 Год назад +2

    You missed Noviomagus Reginorum, or Chichester. It was founded by the Romans not long after the invasion, before becoming the capital of the Kingdom of Sussex and became the seat of a cathedral in 1075 when the bishophric was moved from Selsey to Chichester by the Council of London

  • @georgewheeldon8529
    @georgewheeldon8529 Год назад

    excellent vid i find it hard to believe oxford never made the list

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  Год назад

      Thanks! Yeah Oxford's ancient, but Christ Church Cathedral's 16th century.

  • @coombscharlie
    @coombscharlie Год назад +6

    I was expecting to see St Albans/Verulamium and Colchester/Camulodunum on the list. Was their city status broken when Rome withdrew?

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  Год назад +1

      Well yeah, Sub-Roman Britain i.e. post 410 AD was basically a wasteland for the most part.

  • @hamneggs345
    @hamneggs345 Год назад

    I like Wells, with the clock in the cathedral, and it's near to Cheddar and Glastonbury

  • @christopherx7428
    @christopherx7428 Год назад +7

    Interesting with so many cities where the origins are so ancient that no one knows when they were founded. Btw: "Strand" is the word for beach also in modern Swedish!

  • @christate590
    @christate590 Год назад

    Just wondering why there is film of Newcastle upon Tyne at the beginning of the footage but doesn't make the list?

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  Год назад +1

      Ah well spotted! I ran a clip of Grey Street to coincide with where I mentioned that a lot of Victorian big towns were upgraded to cities, including Newcastle.

  • @markgerrard383
    @markgerrard383 Год назад +10

    How can you include Hereford & Worcester without including the ancient Roman settlement of Glevum which predated both ?
    Omitting Gloucester is a serious error..

    • @citythink
      @citythink Год назад +1

      Canadian born son of a son of Gloucester here and I had to question this as well.

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  Год назад +2

      Glevum was a colonia, yes. But Gloucester has only been a city since 1541 when the Diocese of Gloucester was formed.

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  Год назад +1

      It only became a city during Henry VIII's reign. Of course it was a Roman colonia, but this list is looking at longest unbroken city status.

    • @markgerrard383
      @markgerrard383 Год назад +7

      @@AlexinGreatBritain That's not true by your own criteria..
      1.The Cathedral was built in stages between 1089 to 1130 - so logically it became a cathedral city at the latest in 1130
      2. If you go to Gloucester Cathedral you will see the mounted statues of the 12 apostles beheaded as they were in many cathedrals & abbeys across the country as an act defiance against Rome during the 1536 Dissolution of the Monasteries.
      .
      ERGO
      Notwithstanding 1 if Gloucester was otherwise elevated to city status at any time in history it's highly unlikely to have been in the post Reformation years of Henry VIIIs reign.
      For these reasons I beg to differ with your logic & accuracy

    • @ekspatriat
      @ekspatriat Год назад

      @@markgerrard383 Born and grew up in Gloucester till I was 34 (now 65). Old city or not it's a shit-hole. (Now)

  • @jasoncallow860
    @jasoncallow860 Год назад +1

    It is a very interesting video. Arguments about what the list should comprise are a bit daft given that record keeping is so poor before the Normans. It is likely that every settlement in Europe was occupied for unknown periods dating back to the neolithic; even nomads need to camp somewhere and good spots nears rivers were likely repeatedly used for millennia. I suspect during hunter gatherer periods tribes would have gathered at such places because they were familiar and had access to fresh water.

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  Год назад

      Exactly! And that's why making a list of oldest TOWNS would be nigh on impossible as dozens of towns claim to be the oldest.

  • @johne1956
    @johne1956 5 месяцев назад

    I was born in Peterborough, which has a great cathedral, I went to school at the cathedral choir school there. I also lived for ten years in York which is a truly historic and spectacular city with possibly one the best cathedrals in the UK. I have lived in Winchester for the past 22 years. I have been blessed to call these places home.

    • @bilbo8338
      @bilbo8338 16 дней назад

      Brilliant! I have a question for you - Which is a better city to settle down - York or Winchester?

    • @johne1956
      @johne1956 16 дней назад

      @@bilbo8338 Hi, the simple answer is it depends. Both are great cities with history, surrounded by beautiful countryside. York is the bigger city so has more shops and restaurants. Winchester is in the South, nearer to London so it is more expensive to live there. Schools are good in both places. People are probably more friendly in the North ie. York. Either would be a great place to settle.

  • @jam-nc8ut
    @jam-nc8ut Год назад +2

    I'm British, and although I've been to a couple of these cities, I'd love to travel to them all (and many others). I can't drive anymore, for health reasons, and it is incredibly frustrating that the cost of travel within the UK is such a barrier. For the price of a train ticket and a one night stay in a hotel in, for example, Wells, from my home in the north west of England, I could go to Ibiza for a week. It would also involve less travelling time. I can't afford to do either, as it happens, but I'm sure you take my point.

    • @eoinj3929
      @eoinj3929 Год назад +3

      In Ireland we have free travel for anyone over 65. I regularly take a train to Cork or Galway for a day trip. Only costs me a lunch and I could avoid that if I bothered to make a packed lunch. All the best 👍

    • @sirrathersplendid4825
      @sirrathersplendid4825 Год назад +3

      The coach is a lot cheaper than the train, often less than a quarter of the price. Slower and not as comfy perhaps, but a workable option, especially if you go off-season.

    • @sirrathersplendid4825
      @sirrathersplendid4825 Год назад

      @@eoinj3929- Do you have to be Irish or a resident to qualify?

    • @jam-nc8ut
      @jam-nc8ut Год назад

      @@eoinj3929 Sounds great. We have free bus travel for over 65's, but I'm 2 decades away from that, still paying full adult fares for everything. Happy travels!

    • @jam-nc8ut
      @jam-nc8ut Год назад

      @@sirrathersplendid4825 It's something to look into. I only get 20 days a year off work, so time is at a premium (as well as money!).

  • @valentinelobo3707
    @valentinelobo3707 Год назад

    Interesting though of course f very recent vintage when compared to the Indian cities of Harrapa and Lothal which existed in the Indus valley around 2600 to 2000 BEC.

  • @free..to..air..
    @free..to..air.. 18 дней назад

    A tourist could spend an entire holiday travelling from cathedral to cathedral in UK cities...such a rich variety of really beautiful buildings ..with some conducting tours for a small charge..like Durham...
    Personally..i was overawed by the architecture and majesty of Edinburgh and Liverpool's Anglican...tho the metroplitan cathedral there is also worth a visit

  • @andrewbush3744
    @andrewbush3744 Год назад

    Lancaster is a place I have visited a few times amazing city

  • @alfiecat9288
    @alfiecat9288 Год назад +2

    Erm Lincoln or Lindum, definitely should be on this list. Is there a reason why, the excel being York, the other cities are in the West and south of the country.

  • @WILLIAM1690WALES
    @WILLIAM1690WALES 3 дня назад

    I wondered why you did not include the city of Chester, but of course you are quite right, even though the Romans established it as one of their main bases in Britain. It didn’t actually have city status until 1541.

  • @robertlowe1962
    @robertlowe1962 Год назад

    What happened to aston which had Aston Manor and also a church dating far more older as Aston was the original and central place in England

  • @markirving249
    @markirving249 Год назад +1

    Excuse me but why is Carlisle not included as it has been a city since Roman times?

  • @janewebster8014
    @janewebster8014 15 дней назад

    This is very interesting. Thank you for posting.

  • @lesliehart
    @lesliehart Год назад +6

    I was expecting Lincoln and St Davids

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  Год назад +2

      The Diocese of Lincoln was formed in 1072, and St Davids lost its city status in the 19th century. It regained it in the 1990s, but with this list we're looking at the longest unbroken city status.

    • @Simonsvids
      @Simonsvids Год назад

      @@AlexinGreatBritain Your video, your rules, but you said at the start of your video that if it had an Anglican cathedral, it had city status by ancient right. Therefore, even though in 1888 due to local government reorganisation it lost its city status, it could not lose its city status due to ancient right, since it still had an Anglican cathedral! Cant change the goalposts mate once you have defined them! St Davids has been regarded as a continuous city since the 6th century, despite what here today gone tomorrow governments say.

  • @dhm7815
    @dhm7815 Год назад +8

    Americans generally mispronounce Worcester as WUR-shess-ter rather than wooster. People from the original Worcester founded a city in Massachusetts named Worcester and had to continually correct their fellow Americans' mispronunciation. People from Worcester, Massachusetts moved to Ohio and founded a city and just gave up and named it Wooster.

    • @margaretfitzgerald7187
      @margaretfitzgerald7187 Год назад

      Thanks for the instruction. This American looks at the spelling of the name and tries to say what she sees, but then English spelling is a historical hodgepodge. Incidentally, I live near Wooster, OH and keep a bottle of Worcester Sauce in the fridge.

    • @Ionabrodie69
      @Ionabrodie69 Год назад +1

      @@margaretfitzgerald7187Ooh triggered ..🙄🇬🇧

    • @margaretfitzgerald7187
      @margaretfitzgerald7187 Год назад

      @@Ionabrodie69 What do you mean?

    • @simonpitt8145
      @simonpitt8145 Год назад +1

      @@margaretfitzgerald7187 " Triggered ", in that context, is a fairly recent slang term made by British people to indicate that they believe someone has just been wound up and risen to the bait by overreacting to an earlier comment. For what it's worth, I don't think you were. I'd say that you gave a perfectly reasonable response, evidenced by the gentle and humorous Worcester Sauce comment. Sadly @lonabrodie thought otherwise.

    • @margaretfitzgerald7187
      @margaretfitzgerald7187 Год назад

      @@Ionabrodie69そうと思いませんよ。

  • @dizzyduck44
    @dizzyduck44 Год назад +8

    I think we need to be careful here. By the author’s own admission some cities passed into city status as there doesn’t appear to be records for them, so somewhere such as Chester which has been in its present site since 79AD may well have been considered a city, it’s just that somebody kept records for it and didn’t name it as such till 1541. Possible due to the fact we have a history of its Mystery Plays alongside it. The Roman’s certainly considered it of major importance and the Saxon’s built there as well.

    • @EdwardThomas-mn5vd
      @EdwardThomas-mn5vd Год назад +1

      Yes, exactly. Chester should be on the list and that's final.!

    • @darthwiizius
      @darthwiizius Год назад +1

      Settlements endured and were reconstructed because they have an inherent advantage of location, so for example places with "ford" in the title were built around river crossings to control trade, act as a strategic military control etc. Just because we don't fully understand our ancestors doesn't mean we don't understand some of their motivations and logically assume some others.

    • @Ionabrodie69
      @Ionabrodie69 Год назад

      @@EdwardThomas-mn5vdOh get over yourself..🙄🇬🇧

    • @EdwardThomas-mn5vd
      @EdwardThomas-mn5vd Год назад

      @Ionabrodie69 thank you Iona brodie,
      Kisses. Xxxx

    • @EdwardThomas-mn5vd
      @EdwardThomas-mn5vd Год назад

      You know I, m right.

  • @peddersmeister
    @peddersmeister Год назад +1

    I don't know how easy it is to change chapter names, but the city of Lichfield, where I grew up didn't actually have a T in its name, that honour is bestowed upon a village in Hampshire😊

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  Год назад +4

      Oh wow, thanks for the heads up! I didn't even put chapters on this video - it was the bloody AI that did that, and it can't even spell Lichfield!

    • @peddersmeister
      @peddersmeister Год назад +1

      @@AlexinGreatBritain haha 🤣 no worries having never put a video on RUclips, when for an IT professional may sound odd! So I didn't know how chapters were added 😊
      Lichfield has a royal mail sorting office which was a short walk from my childhood home, and somewhere I have a picture of a sign that they put up spelling it with a T, the next time I went round they'd corrected it!

  • @capcompass9298
    @capcompass9298 Год назад +1

    Time Immemorial (I read) was 1135 onwards after K Henry II gave the City of London a Mayor.

  • @ibcanadaboy4381
    @ibcanadaboy4381 7 дней назад +1

    This is a pretty arbitrary list. The town I grew up in, Winchester, was a major settlement long before the Romans invaded, and is probably 3,000 years old. When I left the UK to live abroad many years ago, I soon discovered that the "history" I learned from UK textbooks was heavily sanitized, very parochial, and often quite misleading.

  • @alanhindmarch4483
    @alanhindmarch4483 Год назад +3

    What about Ripon, Yorkshire. It is the Oldest City in England by Royal Charter and the fourth smallest.

    • @PaulTheCyclist.
      @PaulTheCyclist. Год назад

      I was waiting to see it on the list, at 1100+years old

  • @croceyzx2433
    @croceyzx2433 Год назад

    Could you do a version for Towns?

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  Год назад

      Not a bad idea, although if I did it would likely be a list of all the towns that claim to be THE oldest, with varying degrees of validity!

  • @excession3076
    @excession3076 Год назад

    Not a city (but lots in the comments are mentioning various towns),
    Amesbury (just up the road from Stonehenge, so makes sense) is reckoned to be the oldest continuously occupied town/settlement.
    The Roman stuff is pretty modern when you think about it.

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  Год назад

      Yeah, that could be the topic of a future video - towns that claim to be the oldest, as there are a handful alleging that, including Amesbury.

  • @jogriffiths5766
    @jogriffiths5766 Год назад

    What about St David's Cathedral in Pembrokeshire?

  • @morriganwitch
    @morriganwitch Год назад +1

    I live in Lincoln you can feel the age xxx

  • @margaretyates4937
    @margaretyates4937 Год назад +2

    I agree what about Chester. And where was Durham in the list

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  Год назад

      Durham was literally the first city I featured as an honourable mention. Did you skip over that part? Chester became a city in 1541. Deva Victrix is irrelevant as the Romans abandoned it along with the whole island.

  • @paulvallance4970
    @paulvallance4970 Год назад

    I think you'll find Venta Belgarum tranlates into 'Wind of the Belgae', thereby giving rise to the anglicised version of Winchester, ie Wind-Chester.

    • @jacklovejoy5290
      @jacklovejoy5290 Год назад

      Venta is a corruption of Uenta, a Brittonic word meaning market, the latin translation of wind is ventus. It then became the Wintanceaster (Fort Venta), which then became Winchester over time

  • @grimreaper-qh2zn
    @grimreaper-qh2zn Год назад +3

    Excuse me but your definition says with an Anglican Cathedral. Hence no City meets this requirement before Henry VIII who broke away from Rome to Create the Anglican Church to validate his personal requirements. 1534 is therefore the first time there could be a "City" anywhere.

  • @martinmcdonald4207
    @martinmcdonald4207 20 дней назад

    That was an interesting journey back in time. I was sure both Bath and Norwich would have been in the oldest top ten charts, how wrong was i. ?

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  20 дней назад +1

      Not far off on either. Both were cities in the Norman era, although Bath took a break after the bishop's seat moved to Wells.

  • @sorscha1308
    @sorscha1308 Год назад +1

    I'm not going to argue that it's one of the oldest but i think Ripon NY would have a little argument with Wells over which is the smallest city. I've never been to Wells but it looks bigger than Ripon (which is basically a market square with a few side streets & a cathedral) to me.

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  Год назад +1

      Yeah, I'll have to do a video about the smallest cities at some point!

    • @steveselby6201
      @steveselby6201 Год назад +2

      Ripon was granted its city charter in 886 . I am not sure when it was first settled but I would certainly make an argument for it being one of the oldest.

    • @anthillmob7455
      @anthillmob7455 15 дней назад

      ​@@steveselby6201 according to Google, Ripon is the oldest city

  • @weighttrainingguide
    @weighttrainingguide Год назад +4

    Love UK history!

  • @chrishambleton6475
    @chrishambleton6475 12 дней назад +1

    Where does Sheffield come in to this as I'm from Sheffield

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  12 дней назад +1

      Sheffield was granted city status in 1893 - same year as Leeds. This also explains why pretty much all the industrial cities of the north and midlands have a 'town' hall.

  • @risvegliato
    @risvegliato Год назад +4

    Thanks for getting Bangor in the right place chronologically. Many people forget that it is the oldest cathedral after York.

  • @GMDEl1
    @GMDEl1 Год назад

    odd that you never said anything about ST' David's in wales i under stand it only got it city status in 1994 but i did have cathedral from about 1180ad give or take

  • @user-sz9bx1bg2s
    @user-sz9bx1bg2s 12 дней назад

    Expected to see Salisbury here

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  12 дней назад

      Salisbury's an interesting one - it was built from scratch in the 13th century.

  • @mikecoulson9709
    @mikecoulson9709 6 дней назад

    Very interesting, although I would have preferred it in chronological order 👍

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  5 дней назад

      Thanks. I hear you, it's just that, with the possible exception of Canterbury, there's no real way of knowing the true chronological order of the Anglo-Saxon era cities!

  • @ronhall9039
    @ronhall9039 4 месяца назад +1

    One small point - don't berate the Saxons too much as they really only were in the south of England. Northumbria, Mercia and Anglia were not Saxons but were Angles (as in Anglo-Saxon, Angleterre, Angelcynn).
    Modern history has tended to paint out the Angles, but they were definitely there, although their proximity to Scandinavia caused their ultimate downfall.

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  4 месяца назад

      Oh I'm with you on that. It's just their record keeping prior to the 9th century wasn't the best, leaving us with little information to go on regarding entire kingdoms like Essex, and same for the Angles regarding Hwicce, Lindsey etc.

    • @Stoggler
      @Stoggler 21 день назад

      Agree with you there. I dislike the casual use of Saxon as a catch-all term for pre-1066 England, especially when there was also a Duchy of Saxony on the continent from the 9th century onwards (and there was Saxon lands prior to that), so Saxon refers to that entity (although context should be taken into consideration). Also by the latter AS period, English (or englisc to use their spelling) was the term used the people of the period.

  • @stco2426
    @stco2426 Год назад

    Hi. Why isn't Carlisle in the list. Its priory became a cathedral in 1133?

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  Год назад

      Which makes it old, just not old enough for the top 10.

    • @JesterEric
      @JesterEric 18 дней назад

      Carlisle is one of the few cities with unbroken Romano British occupation. It likely still had a working aqueduct feeding a fountain in the 7th century and a praepositus civitatis according to Bede