Great video!! I have a lot of thoughts on these changes, on both sides of the argument. To start, I see people saying that the purpose of the BDP is market research, and Lego already knows that modulars are popular. But I don't think that is entirely accurate. By that logic, they should have only made one castle. Next, there is the idea that the BDP should only be for sets that Lego would not make themselves. I 100% agree with this sentiment, and I argue that modulars should be included in this idea. Looking at some of the Series 5 submissions, I don't think Lego would ever give us a modular Canal Lock, or Cargo Delivery Depot (or at least as robust as those in the submissions). And even if they did, it probably wouldn't be for another 10 years. The major argument that I see in favor of this change, and the one that I agree with, is the one that Bricklink themselves have made. They cite not wanting to cause confusion between BDP sets and the Icons Modular line. I don't think anyone who buys from the BDP has any doubt that it is not an Icons set, but I think what Lego means to say is that they don't want fans of modulars to feel like they missed out on a modular because it was on the BDP and they couldn't get it. This makes sense. I have seen many times people post online about the Modular Construction Site, and I see others asking how they can get the set, only to hear that it was from a crowdfunding event a few months past. I missed out on that very set because I didn't have internet access before it sold out. It can also put people in a financially difficult spot, as they may feel like they have to spend a couple of hundreds of dollars on a modular within an hour to keep their collection complete, whereas an Icons Modular would be on shelves for a couple of years, giving buyers flexibility. I've had to forgo certain BDP purchases because I didn't have the money that moment. Also, even if every modular fan had the time, knowledge, and money to buy a BDP modular, there simply wouldn't be enough stock to satisfy all of them, since BDP sets are limited in quantity. I see this as more of an overall BDP issue, but it still factors in. Modulars are so widely beloved that putting one on a limited production program can feel unfair. In the end, while I don't like this change, I do understand it. I would love for the BDP to be a great source of modulars based on more niche concepts and/or built in less traditional ways, especially since modulars don't really get chosen that frequently. Those who designed modulars for the BDP now have to somewhat arbitrarily "unmodularize" their designs. I think the BDP should be focused on giving fans what they want, the way that they want it. And I don't see these rules as helping to that end. But at the same time, it featuring modulars creates the problems I explained above. It is funny to me how the shear quality of these modular sets is ultimately the issue. People want them, and the BDP gives us the opportunity to have them, but they are in a way too popular, and not everyone would be able to have them. There's not easy solution to this dilemma.
Based on these changes, it sounds like the Icons line isn’t selling as well as Lego wants these days. Same could be said for the Natural History Museum Modular. We bought our copy for 30% directly from Lego during a sale, which is unheard of for a Modular on the shelf for less than a year. I think restricting the BDP forces Modular and Icons line collectors to spend their money directly at the Lego store and/or online. Of course Lego owns BL so they see those profits too, but I would imagine they want their own sets selling lots of copies compared to the BDP sets selling out in minutes and then they’re forced to put their own sets on sale to move them.
@@Slapshotpops That's an interesting line of thinking and I would say the facts certainly line up with your assessment. It'll be interesting to see what the modulars in the future look like and how LEGO handles them 🤔. It's impossible to deny that the buildings in the BDP ALWAYS are successful, but maybe the Museum mod is just a minor setback.
Lego is not canceling modulars. They are not allowing modulars to be submitted in the BDP as they want to distinguish their Modular line from other sets.
@@FlashGamer521 Okay. Alternate solution: Stop the Bricklink Designer Program. "artificially increasing the value of their own official models" What have you been smoking? Their models are produced in unlimited numbers, the BDP is limited to 30,000 sets max.
Bricklink Designer Program always had some fire modulars and I hope there may still be an option to have some "modular" type BDP sets in the future. Fingers crossed!
the fossil fuel thing is so stupid :/ that's pretty stupid to ban because it's "Bad for the environment" yet it's built with plastic bricks made from oil (and some plants)
This change was interesting to me that they are taking this stance. I don't think they're winning any "brownie" points in the community or with the normies at large. Certainly LEGO retail sets are not following this mantra at all. I'm looking at YOU Speed Champions (one of my faves!)
I think it’s surprising the BDP exists to begin with! I don’t mind them restricting modulars (especially if it’s temporary). It just pushes the envelope for exploring other genres. I would very much like to see them expand the max production volume. The fact that some sets sell out in a few hours definitely means there’s room for expansion.
It would be one thing if they stated the rules but decided to make more modular sets. Its another for them to cut the theme and not allow the submissions. The problem with the designer program is that they are choosing not to sell the schematics of things and idea that dont get chosen to be sets, as far as i can tell. If the designers are allowed to post directions on rebrickable and other platforms i see no harm. It would not surprise me if this becomes an anti-trust situation way way down the road, lego may not be the recipient of such a thing, but another similar example could come up
I think you're confusing Ideas with the BDP. Sets that are submitted to Ideas cannot have their instructions published, because the submissions become property of the LEGO group. For BDP the instructions may not be published while the set is under consideration. After it's been rejected, or hasn't been picked, you're free to post/sell the instructions.
Yeah let’s continue to make non-biodegradable plastic but say we want to be an environmentally friendly company ! And the machines used to make those plastic pieces….. what fuels them ?
I honestly don’t think this changes much. I think they have been banning most of the Modulars anyway, now they are just stating clearly what will not be allowed. It’s getting silly with so many great Modulars created and none get chosen, at least people know the rules now and can create different things. I do hope something like Transylvania doesn’t gets blocked.
Modulars have already been getting the boot for ever, they have at last decided to tell us because I and many others had suspicions they were blocking all modulars for years. Lets look at the two we got, one was the Lego store which had to be a modular, the other was a train station which would come under a different theme, a train station is far more trains theme than modular theme, so it just scraped through the Lego blocking process. Something smells bad in the bricklink programme, and it has been dodgy for a while, now they finally come out with it. I commented on your bricklink interview that I was not happy at what was getting chosen, that there was too many great designs getting the chop while very underwhelming designs were getting chosen. The particular two I mentioned was "Ships" and "Modulars", now we know they have been scrapping modulars, and very soon they will reveal that no ship designs will ever be chosen. Just change the name and call it what it is becoming, "BRICKLINK CASTLE/MEDIEVAL DESIGNERS PROGRAMME", then at least we all know where we stand.
I'm not clear on what you're saying. Do you, or don't you want clarity? They've given it, and you seem to be bitching about it, and then asking for more clarity. Why? So you can bitch some more?
Why would you need these clickbaits? Terrible. Modular is going strong, Lego does not want any limited, hard to get "kind of official" modular sets to ruin existing collections.
Clickbaits? Did LEGO not cancel modulars? Would you rather have me say, "LEGO Canceled Modulars Within One Segment Of Their Multi-Billion Dollar Company As Of August 2024"? Also your reasoning for why they are barring modulars from the BDP couldn't be more false. In speaking directly with the BDP Program Manager, they are barring modulars to not compete with existing modulars, which is the essence of the BDP. To not have produce sets that already exist within the LEGO Portfolio, not to "Ruin Existing Collections" as you have stated.
@@bloodymarvelous4790 I don't mean to harp on your comments, I promise! But the sarcasm in my response to FabuBrik must be lost on you or evidently wasn't clear enough on my end 😬
They knew better than to do that! The day that happens is the day so many OFAL's (old fans of lego) will burn LEGO down 😂 And thank you! It's been a crazy week, but hoping for some more bangers coming soon!
Wow, this was a horrible video. There was not reason to stress the word "will". There's a huge difference between "We will ask ourselves if this can be construed as a modular building." and "We WILL ask ourselves if this can be construed as a modular building." One is an indication of consideration, the other is a threat. Also, this is just clarification as to what the limitations are for designs that can be picked. The choice of which entries will actually make it to production has always been with the BDP. There have been tons of modular type buildings in the past 5 series, and none have been picked. And the reason has been clear from the very beginning. LEGO doesn't want to approve any designs that might come close to existing or upcoming projects. So no IP's, no modulars, no Speed Champions type cars, no Icons type cars, etc.
This comment sounds like a threat 😬 (I promise I'm not targeting you! you've just been very vocal in this comment section which I greatly appreciate you voicing your observations and opinions!)
After having watched the video, I'm far from impressed with everything he said. The thumbnail is clickbait, the video is biased, and the quotes are stressed in such a way as to put LEGO in a bad light.
@@bloodymarvelous4790 Thank you for watching the video! After all, these are my opinions of which the purpose of this video was to have everyone include theirs. LEGO is canceling modulars within a segment of their company, that's hardly far form the truth, and I believe I've hardly painted LEGO in a bad light. After all, they are being very progressive in staying away from other potentially harmful themes. I appreciate you sharing your opinion!
Appears to me, to be the perception of a separation of church and state i.e. (The LEGO Group & BrickLink Designer Program). A line has also been drawn in the bricks to keep TLG & BLDP profitable.
Hmm, that's an interesting take. I see from where you're coming, but I don't know why LEGO evidently feels so threatened by the BDP modulars? There's only been 2 finalists modulars, and there's little to no chance they've actually cannibalized purchases from LEGO ICONS. Changes like this just feel overreaching and making something that, while it doesn't make much change, it still send a VERY strong message to the community!
@@cpafol Perhaps LEGO or whomever is supervising the BDP is acting according to an overthinker who is directing these actions. I too "don't" feel they are cannibalizing purchases from LEGO ICONS, however something is going on if you read between the lines. LEGO BDP is searching for that diamond in the rough, what better way than to fine tune the creative genius that is waiting to be discovered.
This is true, but it just feels different when a set is officially recognized by the program and reproduced for us to purchase! It's also much cheaper on average!
There is always Rebrickable, and I have used it, but it is hardly ideal. Having to make subpar choices because the pieces you require are really expensive or unavailable in the colour you want, and you end up spending $400 on what would be a $200 set is not great. I now only use it when the design is using the pieces from a set, like buying two of the Modern House set to make it a modular, or the design uses mostly pieces I already have.
Great video!! I have a lot of thoughts on these changes, on both sides of the argument.
To start, I see people saying that the purpose of the BDP is market research, and Lego already knows that modulars are popular. But I don't think that is entirely accurate. By that logic, they should have only made one castle.
Next, there is the idea that the BDP should only be for sets that Lego would not make themselves. I 100% agree with this sentiment, and I argue that modulars should be included in this idea. Looking at some of the Series 5 submissions, I don't think Lego would ever give us a modular Canal Lock, or Cargo Delivery Depot (or at least as robust as those in the submissions). And even if they did, it probably wouldn't be for another 10 years.
The major argument that I see in favor of this change, and the one that I agree with, is the one that Bricklink themselves have made. They cite not wanting to cause confusion between BDP sets and the Icons Modular line. I don't think anyone who buys from the BDP has any doubt that it is not an Icons set, but I think what Lego means to say is that they don't want fans of modulars to feel like they missed out on a modular because it was on the BDP and they couldn't get it. This makes sense. I have seen many times people post online about the Modular Construction Site, and I see others asking how they can get the set, only to hear that it was from a crowdfunding event a few months past. I missed out on that very set because I didn't have internet access before it sold out. It can also put people in a financially difficult spot, as they may feel like they have to spend a couple of hundreds of dollars on a modular within an hour to keep their collection complete, whereas an Icons Modular would be on shelves for a couple of years, giving buyers flexibility. I've had to forgo certain BDP purchases because I didn't have the money that moment.
Also, even if every modular fan had the time, knowledge, and money to buy a BDP modular, there simply wouldn't be enough stock to satisfy all of them, since BDP sets are limited in quantity. I see this as more of an overall BDP issue, but it still factors in. Modulars are so widely beloved that putting one on a limited production program can feel unfair.
In the end, while I don't like this change, I do understand it. I would love for the BDP to be a great source of modulars based on more niche concepts and/or built in less traditional ways, especially since modulars don't really get chosen that frequently. Those who designed modulars for the BDP now have to somewhat arbitrarily "unmodularize" their designs. I think the BDP should be focused on giving fans what they want, the way that they want it. And I don't see these rules as helping to that end. But at the same time, it featuring modulars creates the problems I explained above. It is funny to me how the shear quality of these modular sets is ultimately the issue. People want them, and the BDP gives us the opportunity to have them, but they are in a way too popular, and not everyone would be able to have them. There's not easy solution to this dilemma.
Clickbait. Lego is not cancelling Modulars. They simply don't want modulars in the Bricklink program.
Yup. Downvote. Remove from watch history. Do not recommend channel. I don't support manipulation.
That is correct! LEGO is cancelling modulars [from being in the BDP]
Based on these changes, it sounds like the Icons line isn’t selling as well as Lego wants these days. Same could be said for the Natural History Museum Modular. We bought our copy for 30% directly from Lego during a sale, which is unheard of for a Modular on the shelf for less than a year. I think restricting the BDP forces Modular and Icons line collectors to spend their money directly at the Lego store and/or online. Of course Lego owns BL so they see those profits too, but I would imagine they want their own sets selling lots of copies compared to the BDP sets selling out in minutes and then they’re forced to put their own sets on sale to move them.
@@Slapshotpops That's an interesting line of thinking and I would say the facts certainly line up with your assessment. It'll be interesting to see what the modulars in the future look like and how LEGO handles them 🤔. It's impossible to deny that the buildings in the BDP ALWAYS are successful, but maybe the Museum mod is just a minor setback.
Lego is not canceling modulars. They are not allowing modulars to be submitted in the BDP as they want to distinguish their Modular line from other sets.
I don’t think it is a good idea to exclude Modular’s, with how many are wanting to build cities on a mils modular base. Just doesn’t make sense to me
@@FlashGamer521 Okay. Alternate solution: Stop the Bricklink Designer Program.
"artificially increasing the value of their own official models" What have you been smoking? Their models are produced in unlimited numbers, the BDP is limited to 30,000 sets max.
Bricklink was the only way to stock up on modulars. Lego know bricklink modulars are better than theirs.
Bricklink Designer Program always had some fire modulars and I hope there may still be an option to have some "modular" type BDP sets in the future. Fingers crossed!
the fossil fuel thing is so stupid :/ that's pretty stupid to ban because it's "Bad for the environment" yet it's built with plastic bricks made from oil (and some plants)
This change was interesting to me that they are taking this stance. I don't think they're winning any "brownie" points in the community or with the normies at large. Certainly LEGO retail sets are not following this mantra at all.
I'm looking at YOU Speed Champions (one of my faves!)
I think it’s surprising the BDP exists to begin with! I don’t mind them restricting modulars (especially if it’s temporary). It just pushes the envelope for exploring other genres. I would very much like to see them expand the max production volume. The fact that some sets sell out in a few hours definitely means there’s room for expansion.
😂jaws literally about hunting a fish
@@bluesjackson8707 Shhhh 🤫 you're gonna get me in trouble!
Clickbait title!
(tell me how lego didn't cancel modulars)
@@cpafol Tell me how your video title isn't clickbait
It would be one thing if they stated the rules but decided to make more modular sets. Its another for them to cut the theme and not allow the submissions. The problem with the designer program is that they are choosing not to sell the schematics of things and idea that dont get chosen to be sets, as far as i can tell. If the designers are allowed to post directions on rebrickable and other platforms i see no harm. It would not surprise me if this becomes an anti-trust situation way way down the road, lego may not be the recipient of such a thing, but another similar example could come up
I think you're confusing Ideas with the BDP. Sets that are submitted to Ideas cannot have their instructions published, because the submissions become property of the LEGO group. For BDP the instructions may not be published while the set is under consideration. After it's been rejected, or hasn't been picked, you're free to post/sell the instructions.
@@bloodymarvelous4790 nah, that was my guess at the end of the comment. Bu thank you for trying to clarify
Yeah let’s continue to make non-biodegradable plastic but say we want to be an environmentally friendly company ! And the machines used to make those plastic pieces….. what fuels them ?
I honestly don’t think this changes much. I think they have been banning most of the Modulars anyway, now they are just stating clearly what will not be allowed. It’s getting silly with so many great Modulars created and none get chosen, at least people know the rules now and can create different things. I do hope something like Transylvania doesn’t gets blocked.
ridiciolous and stupid rules.
forbidding coal/gas/fuels and they make these brick from palstic.
Gotta get that cheap clickbait
Rip octan
Oh shoot, I didn't even think of that . It seems that's been phased out for a while...but now we probably know it's never coming back...
Modulars have already been getting the boot for ever, they have at last decided to tell us because I and many others had suspicions they were blocking all modulars for years. Lets look at the two we got, one was the Lego store which had to be a modular, the other was a train station which would come under a different theme, a train station is far more trains theme than modular theme, so it just scraped through the Lego blocking process.
Something smells bad in the bricklink programme, and it has been dodgy for a while, now they finally come out with it. I commented on your bricklink interview that I was not happy at what was getting chosen, that there was too many great designs getting the chop while very underwhelming designs were getting chosen. The particular two I mentioned was "Ships" and "Modulars", now we know they have been scrapping modulars, and very soon they will reveal that no ship designs will ever be chosen. Just change the name and call it what it is becoming, "BRICKLINK CASTLE/MEDIEVAL DESIGNERS PROGRAMME", then at least we all know where we stand.
I'm not clear on what you're saying. Do you, or don't you want clarity? They've given it, and you seem to be bitching about it, and then asking for more clarity. Why? So you can bitch some more?
Big L on them. Not a modular fan but I do agree with the bricklink design program, we could of got modulars that we probably wouldn't get from Lego.
Why would you need these clickbaits? Terrible.
Modular is going strong, Lego does not want any limited, hard to get "kind of official" modular sets to ruin existing collections.
Clickbaits? Did LEGO not cancel modulars? Would you rather have me say, "LEGO Canceled Modulars Within One Segment Of Their Multi-Billion Dollar Company As Of August 2024"?
Also your reasoning for why they are barring modulars from the BDP couldn't be more false. In speaking directly with the BDP Program Manager, they are barring modulars to not compete with existing modulars, which is the essence of the BDP. To not have produce sets that already exist within the LEGO Portfolio, not to "Ruin Existing Collections" as you have stated.
me clicking here cuz im worried they'll stop making marvel modulars
Don't worry, LEGO only canceled modulars within the BDP segment! I trust you watched the video to discover this
LEGO getting preachy and hypocritical with the fossil fuels line.
How could you say that! LEGO doesn't use fossil fuels at all to make their product! Couldn't be more separate
@@cpafol Haha, lol, that's so funny.
You better start a different channel then, if you disapprove of their production methods.
@@bloodymarvelous4790 I don't mean to harp on your comments, I promise! But the sarcasm in my response to FabuBrik must be lost on you or evidently wasn't clear enough on my end 😬
LEGO really trying to take people’s trains away?!? That will go over so well 😂
Congrats on your channel growth! 🎉
They knew better than to do that! The day that happens is the day so many OFAL's (old fans of lego) will burn LEGO down 😂
And thank you! It's been a crazy week, but hoping for some more bangers coming soon!
Wow, this was a horrible video.
There was not reason to stress the word "will". There's a huge difference between "We will ask ourselves if this can be construed as a modular building." and "We WILL ask ourselves if this can be construed as a modular building." One is an indication of consideration, the other is a threat.
Also, this is just clarification as to what the limitations are for designs that can be picked. The choice of which entries will actually make it to production has always been with the BDP. There have been tons of modular type buildings in the past 5 series, and none have been picked. And the reason has been clear from the very beginning. LEGO doesn't want to approve any designs that might come close to existing or upcoming projects. So no IP's, no modulars, no Speed Champions type cars, no Icons type cars, etc.
Terrible video. To me it is the limited production point. It ruins many collections to know there are "new" and expensive and hard to get modulars.
This comment sounds like a threat 😬
(I promise I'm not targeting you! you've just been very vocal in this comment section which I greatly appreciate you voicing your observations and opinions!)
TLDR: No - just on Bricklink Designer Program!
You should change the title. It's clickbait. (Title right now: 'LEGO Is Canceling Modulars!' )
i clicked out of concern
This
After having watched the video, I'm far from impressed with everything he said.
The thumbnail is clickbait, the video is biased, and the quotes are stressed in such a way as to put LEGO in a bad light.
@@bloodymarvelous4790 Thank you for watching the video! After all, these are my opinions of which the purpose of this video was to have everyone include theirs.
LEGO is canceling modulars within a segment of their company, that's hardly far form the truth, and I believe I've hardly painted LEGO in a bad light. After all, they are being very progressive in staying away from other potentially harmful themes. I appreciate you sharing your opinion!
I'm considering on changing the title to: "LEGO Modulars: It's Clickbait".
Thoughts?
Appears to me, to be the perception of a separation of church and state i.e. (The LEGO Group & BrickLink Designer Program). A line has also been drawn in the bricks to keep TLG & BLDP profitable.
Hmm, that's an interesting take. I see from where you're coming, but I don't know why LEGO evidently feels so threatened by the BDP modulars? There's only been 2 finalists modulars, and there's little to no chance they've actually cannibalized purchases from LEGO ICONS.
Changes like this just feel overreaching and making something that, while it doesn't make much change, it still send a VERY strong message to the community!
@@cpafol Perhaps LEGO or whomever is supervising the BDP is acting according to an overthinker who is directing these actions. I too "don't" feel they are cannibalizing purchases from LEGO ICONS, however something is going on if you read between the lines. LEGO BDP is searching for that diamond in the rough, what better way than to fine tune the creative genius that is waiting to be discovered.
It’s getting closer to the point to give up Lego.
Get woke go broke.
lmao sure jan
So close!
There is always ReBrickable
This is true, but it just feels different when a set is officially recognized by the program and reproduced for us to purchase! It's also much cheaper on average!
There is always Rebrickable, and I have used it, but it is hardly ideal. Having to make subpar choices because the pieces you require are really expensive or unavailable in the colour you want, and you end up spending $400 on what would be a $200 set is not great. I now only use it when the design is using the pieces from a set, like buying two of the Modern House set to make it a modular, or the design uses mostly pieces I already have.
@@neilrusling-je6zo I have heard similar stories when it comes to Rebrickable! Not always ideal 😬