Jaguar & Land Rover Ingenium diesel part 2. Timing chains, balance shafts - would I buy one?

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  • Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
  • In this video we discuss the repairs we carry out weekly on the Land Rover Ingenium engine.
    We start a lot of work on a Jaguar XE engine and talk you through the process.
    #cars #garage #repair #workshop #carrepair #kent #landrover #jaguar #cambelt #timingbelt #timingchain #ingenium
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Комментарии • 85

  • @jonjones6583
    @jonjones6583 5 месяцев назад +10

    Definitely will consider your services for any future work on my vehicles. A very committed young man in his trade, Great to see in this day and age. Keep up the excellent work.

  • @k20aa
    @k20aa 5 месяцев назад +8

    Omg those engines look like nightmares

  • @angusshapland2273
    @angusshapland2273 5 месяцев назад +2

    Wellseal, wonderful stuff with a wonderful smell. I was using it on bike engines in the 1960’s !!

  • @pda49184
    @pda49184 5 месяцев назад +2

    Great stuff Josh. I'm impressed with the design of these engines and even more impressed at the quality of the work you do to keep them running.

  • @mazdaman1286
    @mazdaman1286 5 месяцев назад +10

    The old Peugeot Citroen 1.9 and the 2.0 litre diesel engines could cover mind blowing mileages with simple routine servicing, , mine did 400,000ish before being rear ended, the engine lives on in a van somewhere. Now we have engines with a lifespan of a few years and less than a 100,000 miles before major surgery is required. Where exactly was the great leap forward in technology? ❤

    • @cp4512
      @cp4512 5 месяцев назад +4

      Yep, not exactly good for the environment to have engines last only 1/4 the mileage life of old engines….

    • @jrvehicleservices
      @jrvehicleservices  5 месяцев назад +5

      That is exactly the type of thing I mean, those engines were awesome!

  • @miller333
    @miller333 5 месяцев назад

    Cracking few videos to watch, finally good content to watch for ingenium engines

  • @sprograt
    @sprograt 5 месяцев назад +2

    This technology is supposedly progression in my opinion its regression. Loving to videos since I first watched you on Salvage Rebuilds, keep up the good work.

  • @petruandreascondurachi3718
    @petruandreascondurachi3718 5 месяцев назад

    Good video , interesting 👍

  • @luckysmiler
    @luckysmiler 5 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the good video

  • @Gearoid35
    @Gearoid35 5 месяцев назад +2

    Good video lads a lot of work there doing the balance shafts

    • @jrvehicleservices
      @jrvehicleservices  5 месяцев назад +2

      Quite a bit yes! Not too bad if doing chains already

  • @brianhume4743
    @brianhume4743 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great video again, just saying from North of Newcastle 👍🇬🇧🍺

  • @salisburyplain998
    @salisburyplain998 5 месяцев назад +3

    Thank the lord we off loaded our 2017 evoque before it detonated 😅

  • @tezblackwell6796
    @tezblackwell6796 5 месяцев назад +1

    Very clever people 👏👏👏

  • @brianb7636
    @brianb7636 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great to see Wellseal in use here. Been using it for years, brilliant stuff.

    • @JustMe-Dude
      @JustMe-Dude 5 месяцев назад

      not familiar with wellseal here in the USA. is that similar to permatex aviation 300 ?

    • @jrvehicleservices
      @jrvehicleservices  5 месяцев назад +1

      It's awesome stuff

    • @brianb7636
      @brianb7636 5 месяцев назад +1

      Possibly. It's basically a form of Shellac but Rolls Royce developed it. 1 tin lasts forever.

  • @ianjeffery3762
    @ianjeffery3762 5 месяцев назад +1

    I just found your channel! You guys replaced my time Ng belt on my black 2007 Freelander 2 back in 2020 ish...

  • @colinblythe3710
    @colinblythe3710 5 месяцев назад +1

    FYI :- the motor home - they need a a HEAVY DUTY commercial clutch in them with a stronger spring pressure - as the weight of the van burns them out - if you fit the standard peugeot boxer clutch 👍

  • @livesgas
    @livesgas 5 месяцев назад +2

    PSA 2.0 HDI 8 valve. One of the best diesel engines ever made. Modern engines that chase the ultimate in efficiency, fail prematurely.

  • @robertfisher7009
    @robertfisher7009 5 месяцев назад +1

    Have you released part 3 yet? I cant find it. I have a 2018 F-Pace with the 2.0 diesel Ingenium on 60k miles. I have only had a it a year without any issues and I love it. But having seen your video and finding other negative stuff, I am now thinking that I had better change this car soon!

  • @simonhughes3705
    @simonhughes3705 5 месяцев назад +1

    good work gents. been asked to do one but refused because could not justify the cost over the special tools! customer got a bit arsy till i sat down on the laser site and showed the the cost of tools alone for one job.

    • @jrvehicleservices
      @jrvehicleservices  5 месяцев назад +1

      Cheers. We bought the genuine tools as they weren't available from Laser at the time!

  • @4042buchan
    @4042buchan 5 месяцев назад +2

    I got the 2.0 ingenium rear wheel drive and its giving me the absolute fear, if something does go wrong and the repairs run into thousands i think I'll be scrapping it, bought the car thinking i was buying quality not to throw money at it, my 2005 mg zs didn't give this much worry

  • @-DC-
    @-DC- 5 месяцев назад +5

    Make it as complicated and out of the cheapest components as possible 🤣 What could possibly go wrong !

  • @almousaim
    @almousaim 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great job. How much it cost to change chine and balancer please

  • @jonpyke1595
    @jonpyke1595 12 дней назад

    Hi, great informative vids, what year did JLR sort out these issues with the Ingenium Engine or are they still unreliable ?

  • @aparvez88
    @aparvez88 2 месяца назад

    Can you replace the front crankshaft seal without removing the 8mm bolts holding the housing? Might damage mine as trying to remove a seized crankshaft pulley dampener😢

  • @christophergraham9726
    @christophergraham9726 5 месяцев назад

    Is it possible to get crank timing on wrong stroke? IE: compression or exhaust stroke.

  • @stevewaghorn2029
    @stevewaghorn2029 5 месяцев назад +1

    Whats wrong with a slot to time the balance shaft?, the shaft is on a taper pulley so it is infinitely adjustable anyway.
    I wonder where all the worn metal and bearing material goes..... no wonder why the engines grind themselves to death!.
    Seeing the way the balance shaft times up is exactly the reason why I will never own a JLR product!.
    Loving the in depth content, thanks Josh!.

    • @jrvehicleservices
      @jrvehicleservices  5 месяцев назад +2

      I've got no idea why they couldn't just put keys on the lot to be honest! Be miles easier!

  • @aparvez88
    @aparvez88 2 месяца назад

    My crankshaft pulley dampener is seized on. Wd40 and heat it came off but leaving behind the aluminium part on the pulley to the crankshaft… any ideas how to get this off without damaging the crankshaft?

  • @AlluringLordL
    @AlluringLordL 3 месяца назад

    Do you think it's worth getting the balance shaft done as a precaution, if the timing chain is being done anyway?

  • @mandykaur8684
    @mandykaur8684 3 месяца назад

    where did you get the seal installer, its not available anywhere

  • @Tec2Nut
    @Tec2Nut Месяц назад

    Would this be recommended when haveing the timing chain done ?

  • @bastogne315
    @bastogne315 3 месяца назад

    Hope those special tools come wiv every new JLR?

  • @navjotisher
    @navjotisher 4 месяца назад

    Do we need to take the complete engine out, if we need to change balance shafts??

  • @AlfredTheGreatKingOfWessex
    @AlfredTheGreatKingOfWessex 5 месяцев назад

    What are the repercussions driving with a cracked DPF? Would it be good for the car? DPF shooting out soot, less LP EGR intake because the mesh filter is completely blocked. Less regenerations because of no back pressure so no oil dilution?

    • @jrvehicleservices
      @jrvehicleservices  5 месяцев назад +2

      You'd think so but they tend to try and regen more. They also can block and then cause turbo damage

  • @dandumitru4186
    @dandumitru4186 5 месяцев назад

    Hi, can you tell me from were you buy parts ? I have a Jaguar 2.0 diesel ingenium and very soon I must to change timing chain.I am from Romania and this the price for parts is too expensive. Thanks a lot

  • @murrayedington
    @murrayedington 5 месяцев назад

    24:00 you seem to have 2 gaskets there. Did you put sealant between them, too?

    • @jrvehicleservices
      @jrvehicleservices  5 месяцев назад +1

      I didn't explain this well enough. We put Wellseal between all layers of the gasket

  • @philip.aocallaghan4602
    @philip.aocallaghan4602 Месяц назад

    What would the approximate cost to have chains and shafts replaced on land rover evoque

  • @alpinab14
    @alpinab14 5 месяцев назад

    Would love to see loads of content on the jlr 3.0d v6 diesel engine thanks

    • @jrvehicleservices
      @jrvehicleservices  5 месяцев назад +1

      We don't see as many but we do see a fair few! Inlet manifolds are quite common

    • @alpinab14
      @alpinab14 5 месяцев назад

      Yea keep seing the inlet manifolds cracking on the forums but also spun main bearings and snapped crankshafts pop up from time to time also , not much coverage on the 3.0d engine even tho they are used in a lot of cars across the range so any content on the xf and those 3.0d I think would be welcome

    • @jrvehicleservices
      @jrvehicleservices  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@alpinab14 cranks definitely definitely happen but not as common as say the chains on the 2.0

    • @alpinab14
      @alpinab14 5 месяцев назад

      Awesome thats no bad thing 👍

  • @markraz28
    @markraz28 5 месяцев назад

    Hi. Is your scanner an otofix. I have one. Just wondered what you think of it. Really enjoying the vids. Are you the guy in the fb group

    • @jrvehicleservices
      @jrvehicleservices  5 месяцев назад +2

      Yes and yes. We've got a few tools but the Otofix is always first out the box.

  • @johnthebeekeeper1706
    @johnthebeekeeper1706 5 месяцев назад

    Please enlighten me with all the modern technology in engineering why do these engines need balance shafts am I missing something

  • @DR-pb9rx
    @DR-pb9rx 2 месяца назад

    Where is more detailed video of timing chain replacement? I was watching it couple days before and now I cant find it anymore.

  • @2_wheel_rob
    @2_wheel_rob 5 месяцев назад +1

    Do the Ingenium 3.0L petrol & diesel engines suffer from the same problems as the 2.0L?

    • @jrvehicleservices
      @jrvehicleservices  5 месяцев назад +2

      We haven't seen any yet but from what the dealer boys say they are pretty good engines!

  • @g.cristian4150
    @g.cristian4150 4 месяца назад

    Hello, can you tell me please what symptoms gives bad balance sahfts?
    Because i have a vibration since 80k km, since there i changed the motor mounts (mine where good when i changed it ), i changed the exhaust vibration damper ( this was alsoo good when i changed it) , the vibration is still there at 120k km now. I also changed the motor mounts actuator and the vibration is still there, there is no chain noise. I have the car since 30k km, i made the oil changes every 10k km, the engine sounds good, but that vibration when stationary and around 1300-1400 rpm makes me mad, can be possible my issue is balance shafts?

    • @g.cristian4150
      @g.cristian4150 4 месяца назад

      The car is an xf 2019 180hp, thanks.

  • @robertbowes1001
    @robertbowes1001 5 месяцев назад

    What causes a really nasty rattle on these engines at the top end we have got 2 in work both same noise haven’t had time to properly get into them yet but wanted to know if you knew of anything

    • @jrvehicleservices
      @jrvehicleservices  5 месяцев назад

      Chains usually but we've got one in with bad lifters at the moment. Unusual though.

  • @user-bz9cb8bp2y
    @user-bz9cb8bp2y 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the information, daughter has 2ltr ingenium engine 😢.... Drives OK now on new engine (50k dead ) ... But I wonder for how long 😢.... Very bad place to put a timing chain, new engine designers... What were you thinking 😢....

    • @frasermitchell9183
      @frasermitchell9183 5 месяцев назад +1

      There is a BMW engine the same. I agree, though !

    • @johanndork5364
      @johanndork5364 5 месяцев назад +3

      and Audi I think. Dreadful, and what are all those pipes, tubes and cables everywhere….built in unreliability and guaranteed leaks.

  • @mickymac6571
    @mickymac6571 5 месяцев назад

    Good content Josh, do you rate the 3.0 Jag diesels, ( I wouldn't look at the 2.2)

    • @khalidacosta7133
      @khalidacosta7133 5 месяцев назад

      You need to point out which YEAR. The earlier 2.2 diesels were PSA engines and generally very reliable. The 3.0 was also PSA but more Ford and generally ok if you don't drive the car like you stole it.

    • @jrvehicleservices
      @jrvehicleservices  5 месяцев назад +1

      The 3.0 is alright. They do have crankshaft issues but other than that generally okay. Turbos and inlet manifolds go but not super super common

    • @mickymac6571
      @mickymac6571 5 месяцев назад

      @@jrvehicleservicesThanks Josh, seen a few advertised with knocking bottom ends at relatively low miles but have been advised it's lack of oil changes, never know out the turbo's, something to think about.

  • @emerryan578
    @emerryan578 3 месяца назад

    ruclips.net/user/shortsx3Hs4YCq9vs?si=uI5cMUDeLd-g6svv
    What would you diagnose as the cause of this sound?

    • @jrvehicleservices
      @jrvehicleservices  3 месяца назад

      Really, really hard to tell from the video. Half think it sounds like flywheel. Does it change when clutch pressed?
      As I say, really hard to tell so don't quote me on that!

    • @emerryan578
      @emerryan578 3 месяца назад

      ​@@jrvehicleservices thank you for replying
      It's an auto, 2.0 diesel,, sorry I should have said (I'm not very mechanically minded but trying to learn bits and pieces)
      You're not alone, 2 garages so far, not sure. One said balance shaft and needs a new engine. The other said something on the exhaust, but it's still there. The engine mounts were changed and this noise appeared soon after. Not sure if coincidence.
      I've seen two other instances of this on XE forums and one was apparently solved with timing chain (loose timing chain slapping against guides) and the other also timing chain and the owner decided on an engine rebuild.
      My chains, bearings etc were checked when this started and were reported as ok.
      Total mystery. Bringing it in again next week to a new garage.
      Enjoying your videos, you're very well- versed in Ingenium.

  • @system11yt
    @system11yt Месяц назад +2

    I don't like seeing that amount of plastic buried deep in an engine on a critical component.

  • @chriswilson263
    @chriswilson263 5 месяцев назад +1

    Those balance shaft needle bearings look crap!

    • @jrvehicleservices
      @jrvehicleservices  5 месяцев назад +2

      They were the biggest issue!

    • @razor1uk610
      @razor1uk610 Месяц назад

      Rubber/PTFE/Soft Bearing Cages!?! Tapered Interference Fit joints without any Alignment Marks or Keyways !?
      ...What The F**king F**k
      !?!?!?! ?!?!
      😱😰😢

  • @robertcochrane717
    @robertcochrane717 Месяц назад +1

    i will never buy anything with this chocolate engine in it the costs are horrendous thousands landrover and jag owners needing engines good cars being scraped as uneconomical to repair bring back the 2.2L it was a good engine in the 190hp at least you can fix it without going bankrupt

  • @tam1381
    @tam1381 Месяц назад

    Almost as bad as the German engines.
    Bmw, Merc and VAG .

  • @ZX600E7
    @ZX600E7 5 месяцев назад

    What awful design. Welseal, wow blast from the past

  • @robrd9485
    @robrd9485 5 месяцев назад +2

    Jaguar engines are shite, JLR should be ashamed of themselves for producing crap

    • @jrvehicleservices
      @jrvehicleservices  5 месяцев назад +3

      I blame too stringent emissions standards and not enough money in production

  • @nigelbarratt6825
    @nigelbarratt6825 4 месяца назад +1

    What an absolute faff! Not content with making some of the most unreliable engines in the history of cars, they have to make them the most difficult to repair when they break down, with ridiculous regularity. Why on earth would anyone buy them??