With the proper suspension and tires, maybe even some aero this thing would be a monster. These types of races are really entertaining! Keep up the great work Kyle 💪
He really needs to clean the hatch up if he wants it to be reliable and competitive. Or maybe he wants it to look like an ebay civic for nostalgia reasons.
@@JonHop1 i think he is going for the balance between the 2, which i think he’s doing good at trying to achieve with the cheaper motor and somewhat reliable drivetrain
@@ploxxybb yeah, and honda suspension stuff aint exactly super expensive either. i'm sure some fairly basic mods (bushings, sway bars, better coilovers, bracing, etc) paired with the new tires could not only help put the power down, but maybe even make that thing into a cornering weapon. the hatch is meant to be a streetcar, why not dip into suspension stuff? lol
@@ploxxybb It also needs to upgrade to quality parts in a lot of areas, not just the suspension.. At least he has fuel tech and a good trans now that should hold up. But he needs to upgrade his wiring and misc parts. He was using that junk China throttle body and TP boost controller.
I think you need a road coarse or time attack car in the fleet. Circle track is fun. But thats just where the fun begins. Would be great content too. A lot more races to attend and create content for your channel. Just my 2 cents. You did good Kyle. Keep it up!
agreed. and theres definitely lots of potential for content with track/autocross/etc. whether its the hatch or some other car, it'd be awesome to see kyle get into that sorta thing.
@@goobworx autocross would be a cheap fun way for them to start and get their feet under them without a crazy investment. I'd love to see them do some autocross or something like that. I think they'd enjoy it too, the way theyve been cracking into new stuff
I’d love the rematch when the C8 makes 22 lbs of boost. Great race man! One day tuning will be available for the C8 and it won’t be on a stock ECU running 3 lbs of boost. I’ll be at the next one for sure. Also, should mention the C8 won the second chance race 🤙🏼
@@theangrymarmot8336 thanks man! Just glad to be out and having fun. Honestly, loving being featured in the video haha. Even if it is in the rear view. I had a blast and just enjoyed the experience. 🤙🏼
I don't know if it would work but could you tap another harness to all the engine sensors and add a Fueltech or Holley to control just another set of injectors?
its really cool to see the normal cool car guy side of james that comes out whenever he talks to you. you should bring him in on some shenanigans he really likes kicking it with you
Thanks for coming out to do this race! Cleetus and now you guys showcasing spectator drags is bringing needed attention. Bring it up north and run with us in Seekonk. Hope you’re hooked like me!
It did so well for a drag setup. Considering there is a very heavy weight plate, the suspension and alignment are completely different for this kind of racing and the car was running sensible width front tires(wider fronts will aid turn in, reduce understeer), it was running with the fastest cars. A bit of setup change and the car would definitely be capable of winning all out.
Would love to see the hatch do more track stuff like this. A nice set of coilovers and some other suspension bits and it could be a beast at spectator drags. Maybe get some with adjustable bound/rebound so you can easily change between a drag setup and a circuit setup.
This, this is what they need to do. I'd watch the hell outta that. I'd love to see the Boiz doing something that requires more turning with the hatch. With that power, AWD, you're right, a few bits to line it out for turning too, it would probably just dominate at stuff like spectator drags and autocross/track events.
The hatch can very well be a spectator drag monster put on some real sticky wide tires, get the suspension setup, get some traction controll setup and throw on some aero and she'll dominate
they start down that rabbit hole and itll never end, nxt AWD will get banned, then boosted and regulated tire sizes then weight of vehicle ect will all be on the line and ppl just wont come at all
False - electric cars are here, they should be included. Considering a race-spec tesla that has been up pikes peak (and set some records) nearly got beat by two corvettes with probably half the torque I think it is just one of those things in racing where people have to figure out how to beat them. The 911 turbos would have been faster if they had a bit more power. The Teslas strength is that 1000+hp and torque. Their cornering speed isn't near as impressive as the launches. If there was a "stock" Plaid there it would have gotten munched by the two "road racey" vettes, the porsches, and the Civic, Evo, and DSMs would have probably held up reasonable against it.
Honestly it could be two classes without going down a rabbit hole, split it on retail price, over 100k and under 100k. Cleet doing what he did kinda goes against the spirit of the race. Pretty much just bought his way into being competitive, already has massive home advantage by practicing.
I cannot help to think, if Kyle had some more practice. That he could do well with the hatch. Also, if he would go to third coming out of the turns that thing would be moving. I am rather proud to see the AWD Honda out there doing OK.
Honestly for what they're doing here, they could probably replace the coilovers with some new ones that are of decent quality, and get an alignment for the circle track, and the tires they got, they would do worlds better. I think the right alignment specs would allow them to go a lot faster with what they've already got.
Nice job! 2nd gear is definitely not long enough for that track, but 3rd is probably too long. You could probably shave some solid time off of your laps if you changed your final drive so you could use 3rd.
as a honda guy I appreciate this channel so people can see they are actuallly good cars and not all rice balls lol , got a 94 db8 b18b integra and a 2020 accord broski keep up the good work
Dude that thing was amazing! the hatch did so good. you took a car that was from the drag strip with no modifications and put it up against the car that has 50 years of development in it and did pretty damn good....
AWD makes all the difference on the track.. And he is super lightweight as well. You can really take ANY good AWD car to the track with good power and it will perform nicely. Its a shame the Hatch isnt more cleaned up and is stil like 40% ebay china parts.
@@JonHop1 not bad considering the car was originally built with a tiny budget and big goals, i do agree that he should put some more quality parts just to make it more reliable and easier to diagnose
Best modern car performance channel going right here.. your still real. You surpassed them all on the cool o meter.. and I mean all of them. Except maybe Brett. Hes still cool lol.
I really like that you guys leave the tune alone when the car works good instead of ALWAYS screwing with it till you completely fuk it up like most guys do. Respect
From jumping cars in the street, using a sheet of plywood and a spare tire as a ramp, all the way to having your own shop, the record for the fastest mr2 and consistently going to great events! Great job Kyle and the whole team! Please make a best of 2022 compilation!
Awesome video! One of the best in a long time. The hatch is awesome, and that looked a ton of fun. You gotta go back in it next time as the Civic is a contender for sure
Nothing to be ashamed of there, that Honda is definitely spicy. Cleetus also did some work on the Porsche. I think if you did some suspension work and get the boost up you would definitely be in contention.Well done.👍👍🇨🇦
The only thing bad about the Hondas you can all wheel drive all day long but we can't get wide enough rubber under them to hook better. Not without fully cutting the front end off and doing a tubed chassi which could be the hatches new future? tubbing the rear is easy.
Kyle I love the content!! Tbh I’m not a true og but I started watching you a year ago. I’m a fan of you and cleet both but I’d love to see you on his level doing what you boys do!!! Keep it up bro I love seeing you mature and grow to be the you can be.
I love the hatch, its iconic for your channel. Would be a real shame to see her get trashed. I'd prefer to see you build a car especially for spectator drags and keep the hatch for drag strip and sick week. But kudos for your effort the hatch was ripping !
I do agree the hatch has more potential for this style of racing. The car was built for drag racing and does a damn good job. With a few mor tweaks, it might destroy in circle drags.
That EK platform with double wishbone suspension is a fantastic platform for this. Guess what they just fitted to the 992 GT3 Porsche front end :) Big front tyres and a good setup will work wonders and be easily reversible for the drags. Lots of fast time attack Hondas out there.
Ay that was impressive that your FWD Civic was launching as good as Cleetus’ Porsche. None of the RWD cars there could do that. Makes me rethink about that whole “RWD puts the power down better than FWD” when I see that.
Since most of your builds are drag /straight line based, you should consider turning the hatch into a nasty spectator drags weapon. Good suspension, tires, aero, shes already got the power. If you can get it to handle like that time attack vette, it would probably destroy the teslas.
Throw some spray on the launch or shortly after the launch. That was awesome. I absolutely love this car brother! Great job good luck with all future endeavors.
It's always cool to see James show up and sprinkle some wisdom to the topic
love james
James like Kyle more than he likes Cleetus
@@rodmrc5863 what a weird comment
James is still a honda boy deep inside
@@laupy4104 can never give up the 4 banger love
With the proper suspension and tires, maybe even some aero this thing would be a monster. These types of races are really entertaining!
Keep up the great work Kyle 💪
Big brakes!
point of spec drags is to bring your daily not bring a full blown racecar
Until it wasn't lol
@@kden1271 what if your daily is your race car then what?
… that c8 had twin turbos 🙄 and I bet Kyle doesn’t daily his hatch 🤷♂️
@ANDREW Valdivieso mmmk so you agreed twice in the same comment.... umm yes
You definitely gotta keep signing up the hatch to the spectator drags, thing could be a weapon!
He really needs to clean the hatch up if he wants it to be reliable and competitive. Or maybe he wants it to look like an ebay civic for nostalgia reasons.
@@JonHop1 i think he is going for the balance between the 2, which i think he’s doing good at trying to achieve with the cheaper motor and somewhat reliable drivetrain
Throw traction control in her.
Spectator drags is definitely a good place for the hatch. Would love to see it get set up for it and win some races
upgrade the suspension on the hatch and I reckon that thing could be REALLY fast at spectator drags!! that thing was very close to the porsche
i literally looked for the suspension comment. yeah dude, the hatch has so much more power it could hold if it just had better suspension.
@@ploxxybb yeah, and honda suspension stuff aint exactly super expensive either. i'm sure some fairly basic mods (bushings, sway bars, better coilovers, bracing, etc) paired with the new tires could not only help put the power down, but maybe even make that thing into a cornering weapon. the hatch is meant to be a streetcar, why not dip into suspension stuff? lol
@@ploxxybb It also needs to upgrade to quality parts in a lot of areas, not just the suspension.. At least he has fuel tech and a good trans now that should hold up. But he needs to upgrade his wiring and misc parts. He was using that junk China throttle body and TP boost controller.
@@goobworx he should be able to hang with the porsche... hes in a fully modified racecar vs a bone stock car...
Don't forget a good brake setup. Braking as late as possible is very important in this type of racing.
I think you need a road coarse or time attack car in the fleet. Circle track is fun. But thats just where the fun begins. Would be great content too. A lot more races to attend and create content for your channel. Just my 2 cents. You did good Kyle. Keep it up!
agreed. and theres definitely lots of potential for content with track/autocross/etc. whether its the hatch or some other car, it'd be awesome to see kyle get into that sorta thing.
he has a porsche maybe they could build that to a badass circle drag / track car
Kswap the Porsche
@@alleydee9226 pretty sure that's in the books already lol.
@@goobworx autocross would be a cheap fun way for them to start and get their feet under them without a crazy investment. I'd love to see them do some autocross or something like that. I think they'd enjoy it too, the way theyve been cracking into new stuff
James is such a good dude
I’d love the rematch when the C8 makes 22 lbs of boost.
Great race man!
One day tuning will be available for the C8 and it won’t be on a stock ECU running 3 lbs of boost.
I’ll be at the next one for sure.
Also, should mention the C8 won the second chance race 🤙🏼
Beautiful car man! Sounded sick too. Props for bringing it out!
@@theangrymarmot8336 thanks man! Just glad to be out and having fun.
Honestly, loving being featured in the video haha.
Even if it is in the rear view.
I had a blast and just enjoyed the experience.
🤙🏼
@@Stock_c8
Wow that car is awesome!!
When you get real boost it will be crazy!!
You will break everything!! Lol!!
@@mikewest5529 just happy to be out having fun!
I don't know if it would work but could you tap another harness to all the engine sensors and add a Fueltech or Holley to control just another set of injectors?
Taking out the C8 TT was extremely impressive, you were gapping him on the straight
He was accelerating way faster than the Porsche, on the straights. Too bad they didn't do testing before the event.
That C8 TT completely blew the launch, I can launch my stock C8 faster! 😅
i think the C8 driver was a bit worried about putting it in the wall, RWD gets a bit sketchy throttling around a turn if you aren't use to it
@@md.m.8372 your stock c8 doesn't have near the power of that c8 either lol its a rear wheel drive vs awd.
Dude was not even trying in the TT C8...
its really cool to see the normal cool car guy side of james that comes out whenever he talks to you. you should bring him in on some shenanigans he really likes kicking it with you
I was losing my mind when you took out the C8! Awesome video guys!
I love that GSX @2:44. It’s hard to find clean examples. Awesome to see it still taking down modern cars.
@kenny Kline Is your guy
James is wise in all things racing. Such a cool guy. The hatch is a contender with a little practice.
"Make it the other guy's problem" lmao James a real one😂
Thanks for coming out to do this race! Cleetus and now you guys showcasing spectator drags is bringing needed attention. Bring it up north and run with us in Seekonk. Hope you’re hooked like me!
I think putting some new parts on the hatch to get it more dialed in for spectator drags could be a great way of getting us more hatch content.
It did so well for a drag setup. Considering there is a very heavy weight plate, the suspension and alignment are completely different for this kind of racing and the car was running sensible width front tires(wider fronts will aid turn in, reduce understeer), it was running with the fastest cars. A bit of setup change and the car would definitely be capable of winning all out.
James is one of those guys got that wild look in his eyes! Like he's about to do some sketchy stuff!
its funny thats how you read it, i see like a constant child like happiness in his eyes 😁
I started laughing my ass off when the hatch pulled busses on the C8
This is why you never race a civc with a lap top in the passenger seat 😂
Lol it’s such a Kyle thing to test his car out right before the race 😂😂
Would love to see the hatch do more track stuff like this. A nice set of coilovers and some other suspension bits and it could be a beast at spectator drags. Maybe get some with adjustable bound/rebound so you can easily change between a drag setup and a circuit setup.
This, this is what they need to do. I'd watch the hell outta that. I'd love to see the Boiz doing something that requires more turning with the hatch. With that power, AWD, you're right, a few bits to line it out for turning too, it would probably just dominate at stuff like spectator drags and autocross/track events.
The scrub indicator you should be following is the tip of the little triangle. It looks like the tire pressures are almost exactly correct.
The hatch can very well be a spectator drag monster put on some real sticky wide tires, get the suspension setup, get some traction controll setup and throw on some aero and she'll dominate
Pretty sure it's on stock brakes too lmao, that would help a bunch with good brakes.
@@scottgilchrist5659 ah, that would explain why Kyle was braking real early, seemed like he was barely using the straights.
aero brakes suspension tires would be a track machine
@@scottgilchrist5659 yeah breaks would help a ton
they need a no Tesla rule lol...also i like how much of a homie James is, he keeps up with the channel and all
they start down that rabbit hole and itll never end, nxt AWD will get banned, then boosted and regulated tire sizes then weight of vehicle ect will all be on the line and ppl just wont come at all
False - electric cars are here, they should be included. Considering a race-spec tesla that has been up pikes peak (and set some records) nearly got beat by two corvettes with probably half the torque I think it is just one of those things in racing where people have to figure out how to beat them. The 911 turbos would have been faster if they had a bit more power. The Teslas strength is that 1000+hp and torque. Their cornering speed isn't near as impressive as the launches. If there was a "stock" Plaid there it would have gotten munched by the two "road racey" vettes, the porsches, and the Civic, Evo, and DSMs would have probably held up reasonable against it.
Honestly it could be two classes without going down a rabbit hole, split it on retail price, over 100k and under 100k.
Cleet doing what he did kinda goes against the spirit of the race. Pretty much just bought his way into being competitive, already has massive home advantage by practicing.
Love that you actually explain what you think/found what the problem is and actually show us how you fixed it. With a sledge.
You really really surprised me Kyle. Your car is setup for a drag strip. Fair doos to you dude 👏. Respect.
✌️👍🇬🇧
Hell ya good 2 see someone on RUclips who can actually drive! I like this kid! 👍🏻👍🏻
I cannot help to think, if Kyle had some more practice. That he could do well with the hatch. Also, if he would go to third coming out of the turns that thing would be moving. I am rather proud to see the AWD Honda out there doing OK.
You boys have a great bond between all involved with cleaning and the FF
Brilliant on how you help each other out
Had a blast Thanks for taking the time to take a picture with me!! Keep up the hard work!
10k car smoking a 100k car😂 Got to love it!
This is one of the coolest events I've seen - very exciting to watch. Sorry you had some mechanical issues man, the ride still rips!
Dude! Would be so sick to see the hatch all setup for spectator drags! Really dialed in to go around a circle
Honestly for what they're doing here, they could probably replace the coilovers with some new ones that are of decent quality, and get an alignment for the circle track, and the tires they got, they would do worlds better. I think the right alignment specs would allow them to go a lot faster with what they've already got.
Kyle and Jack stand have the coolest big brother little brother vibe. It's fun.
This bring back memory the street races years back of Kyle with the hatch which were incredibly enjoyable.
Nice job! 2nd gear is definitely not long enough for that track, but 3rd is probably too long. You could probably shave some solid time off of your laps if you changed your final drive so you could use 3rd.
This. Totally this.
that c8 race right away got me so hyped. good quick thinking! I love it hahah
To be honest those little hatchback Civics and crxs do really good road racing if they're set up properly
as a honda guy I appreciate this channel so people can see they are actuallly good cars and not all rice balls lol , got a 94 db8 b18b integra and a 2020 accord broski keep up the good work
Dude that thing was amazing! the hatch did so good. you took a car that was from the drag strip with no modifications and put it up against the car that has 50 years of development in it and did pretty damn good....
AWD makes all the difference on the track.. And he is super lightweight as well. You can really take ANY good AWD car to the track with good power and it will perform nicely. Its a shame the Hatch isnt more cleaned up and is stil like 40% ebay china parts.
@@JonHop1 not bad considering the car was originally built with a tiny budget and big goals, i do agree that he should put some more quality parts just to make it more reliable and easier to diagnose
Glad to see people are still giving and receiving hickies!! Makes me happy, thanks for the great content, Kyle...
If i was in that gray evo id be fuking pissed..and i know shit happens racing but thats some bull right there
that was a shit move from the red DSM
Nice showing at spectator drags! Love to see this Honda hatch hanging with the best.
Looks like a blast wish I could have been there
Best modern car performance channel going right here.. your still real. You surpassed them all on the cool o meter.. and I mean all of them. Except maybe Brett. Hes still cool lol.
I really like that you guys leave the tune alone when the car works good instead of ALWAYS screwing with it till you completely fuk it up like most guys do. Respect
Kyle keeping up with 200K supercars with his home built AWD Honda! I Love it!
From jumping cars in the street, using a sheet of plywood and a spare tire as a ramp, all the way to having your own shop, the record for the fastest mr2 and consistently going to great events! Great job Kyle and the whole team! Please make a best of 2022 compilation!
i would be sick if you set the hatch up a little better for this and make it a monster, like all suspension mods and all
Man I love spectator drags, did a awesome job your first time Kyle! 👍👍🤙🤙💪💪
I love that you kept the OG original steering wheel, living the dream Kyle and Co!💖 UK🇬🇧
Awesome video! One of the best in a long time. The hatch is awesome, and that looked a ton of fun. You gotta go back in it next time as the Civic is a contender for sure
"had to do this on my lifted camaro last week" 🤣 tye with the subtle flex
"Ty The Peener" I'm officially dead 😂🤣😂🤣
If there's one thing you could learn from Cleet, it's testing your toys. Very entertaining to watch. Happy to see the hatch mixing it up.
The Hatch has found a place in the spectators drag. The car did very well and with a few changes could easily be in the top ten. Nice work Kyle.
Bloody impressive. That hatch flies! Handling letting you down on the corners. Get that sorted and you'll own that event!
The hatch is killing it! So close to the Cleeter Porker. Great to see you guys thrashing it out.
Nothing to be ashamed of there, that Honda is definitely spicy. Cleetus also did some work on the Porsche. I think if you did some suspension work and get the boost up you would definitely be in contention.Well done.👍👍🇨🇦
The only thing bad about the Hondas you can all wheel drive all day long but we can't get wide enough rubber under them to hook better. Not without fully cutting the front end off and doing a tubed chassi which could be the hatches new future? tubbing the rear is easy.
Kyle I love the content!! Tbh I’m not a true og but I started watching you a year ago. I’m a fan of you and cleet both but I’d love to see you on his level doing what you boys do!!! Keep it up bro I love seeing you mature and grow to be the you can be.
James might've took a trip to the moon before that gem dropping moment. ⛽☁️
Very impressive performance... 😯
Just needs to be set up for this race🔧🛠️🪛
The hatch definitely has a place in circle drags...🏁
What a good save by the vette driver that was a well controlled spin 🔥
You did well bro. I love how you take things as they come. That’s racing. 🤙
Big gains can also be made with later braking, so I would upgrade to a better brake setup.
“Wanna run Leroy and the MR2?” Hahaha straight savage
I swear I love it when they feature each other
That was impressive! You did very well. Fun times! Keep the vids rolling!
"The hatch never lets me down"
The hatch; "Hold my tps".
Tye the Peener, this now moves into first place of kyles best lines 😂
Test and tune brotha!!! So sick watching the hatch doing laps, looks like you had fun.
This was so cool thanks for giving it your best no matter what always fun to see cleeter and Kyle go head to head!!!
The Civic is amazing, that car is a contender! Hope to see the Honda get more sorted for spectator drags! Fun event!
Given how fast the hatch is out the hole shows how insane cleeter Porsche is. Holy shit!
Awesome works guys. I hope you are hooked. Cause that little monster could DOMINATE with small tweaks
James is like a big brother to you 😂 always down to poke a little fun but has your back at the end of the day.
James "We know how you are with 3rd" lol timeless
Glad to see a GTO with some love into it and badass civic btw
Ty the Peener made my chest implode. I couldn’t breathe 😂😂😂
I love the hatch, its iconic for your channel. Would be a real shame to see her get trashed. I'd prefer to see you build a car especially for spectator drags and keep the hatch for drag strip and sick week. But kudos for your effort the hatch was ripping !
The hatch freaking moves. You were right there with the porche
A dammed new stock supra? This is proof that anything can happen with racing? These guys make great content! All truth!!
Nice racing dude sounded sick! Makes me laugh how much Americans say "let's go" too :D
I used to circle track race a civic wagon on a paved 3/8 oval like the FF. They corner really good with the left rear at like 15 psi.
Good set of coil overs and some suspension tuning and this will be a weapon for spectator racing
I do agree the hatch has more potential for this style of racing. The car was built for drag racing and does a damn good job. With a few mor tweaks, it might destroy in circle drags.
The Porsche handles so well in the corners you would still fight so hard to hang it in the corners but that was cool man good job
“Tye the peener” was hilarious
James gets me laughing all the time “og coils from way back when in vietnam” lmao
That EK platform with double wishbone suspension is a fantastic platform for this. Guess what they just fitted to the 992 GT3 Porsche front end :) Big front tyres and a good setup will work wonders and be easily reversible for the drags. Lots of fast time attack Hondas out there.
Ay that was impressive that your FWD Civic was launching as good as Cleetus’ Porsche. None of the RWD cars there could do that. Makes me rethink about that whole “RWD puts the power down better than FWD” when I see that.
Always funny to see a honda on a race track. Nice video!
Circle racing is such a beautiful thing
Since most of your builds are drag /straight line based, you should consider turning the hatch into a nasty spectator drags weapon. Good suspension, tires, aero, shes already got the power. If you can get it to handle like that time attack vette, it would probably destroy the teslas.
I been watching these races since they came out on RUclips an I am happy to see your hatch in it love it brother good job
Throw some spray on the launch or shortly after the launch. That was awesome. I absolutely love this car brother! Great job good luck with all future endeavors.
actually pumped watching this same feelingg i get when my picked fighter wins a ufc fight this was great love the videos
**Cleetus buys a Porsche for spectators drags**
Kyle- “Lets bring take the Civic” 😂
This needs to be the hatches new life. A spectator drag monster.