If your cosmetics disappear, touching a resupply cabinet should fix it. Also, I find that crouching usually helps if you roll Spawn Dispenser or Spawn Sentry
I've done that before, and it does work sometimes. But other times it doesn't. So whenever the glitch happens, and the resupply cabinet doesn't restore my hats the first time I use it, then I just focus on the game and worry about my hats later. But I did notice that switching your loadouts seems to fix the hats sometimes as well. Although even that doesn't always work
Playing as spy is a literal disasvantage in class wars. In casual, it's never made clear what enemy classes you're fighting unless they show themselves in the spawn exit during setup time. Of course spy will have the element of surprise if he doesn't show himself during setup. But in *this* case, the enemy team already knows what they're fighting. And because of this, it's harder to get the drop on them when they're expecting you 24/7.
well, and the fact that spys playstyle relys on people distracting others, problem is everyone is trying to get backstabs, so spy is always F tier unless its against engi, only then is it even just a B tier.
@@wereowl9369 no it usually goes to E, mini's are usually still focused on dispensers and teles as well, and also the chance of an ENTIRE team using the same weapon is exactly 0.
The peak class wars moment for me was still the time I rolled Power Play 3 goddamn times in a row. The problem was that it was a Scout vs Engineer round.
There actually is one that isn’t always dustbowl, it just has dustbowl in the server name. It’s a 32-player Blackwonder US server, just pay attention to the current map. The server can still play dustbowl though
yeah I got to join that one a couple times even today but it usually full as as many of us who play class wars goes dustbowl hurts the brain but so is scouts vs demoman on hydro just today we played neither side could push and the round timer had to save us from the horror of hydro
@@TheCrappyCompletionist it’s terrible engie auto loses and the map is way too big to have fun on playing heavy. It also makes spawn sentry rtd super op against some classes.
@@balancemaster55 we had to fight three spawn sentries, and guess what class the other team was? The engineer Engie actually has a stupidly broken neesh in medieval servers with rtd.
7:53 A soldier did the kamikaze taunt, and you damaged him. So the game registered that that was a finish-off,but since the soldier died from the kamikaze taunt, the game said that you killed someone using the kamikaze taunt.
dragons fury pyros actually usually out-dps heavies at close range usually because they have to track instead of burst damage which is much easier to get full dps
@@Spiffyo It speaks to how powerful Engi is if he knows what to expect. Short Circuit takes away from the range and defense utility of the Wrangler but utterly blocks everything a Demo can throw at you, literally. And good positioning and nests covering each other, plus your teammates being able to remove sappers makes it easy to counter spies.
18:19 I like how the lag made him in the position of the heavy wall. An mvm tactic where there are 4 heavy's stuck in a ceiling while a medic makes sheild and an engineer for dispenser
If you want to kill heavies as pyro the stock flaregun is your best bet since heavies are easy to hit, no damage dropoff and crits with 90 damage when they are on fire
@@Warpzel65 Not really the scorch shot has pretty pitiful damage the heavy can just shrug off, the aim offset only really works on snipers and nobody else and they have access to healing items which they can eat themselves or give to burning teammates. So the flaregun is your way to go since it takes 4 shots with it to kill a full health heavy if the afterburn isn't interrupted between shots.
@@yeedog6145 As you mentioned the heavies have access to healing items so getting crits while burning will be problematic. You seem to be underestimating scorches damage which isnt that far off from flare guns and the difference is mostly in flares being burst especially because the bounce works on enemies that arent on fire. Also with the messing with aim part i meant a direct flare making heavy bounce up and having to readjust
@@Warpzel65 But... literally, if 4 pyros hit their flares, a Heavy insta-dies. If 4 pyros hit their Scorches, even with crits, that's only 240. They get access to healing items.
Ok hear me out: the 3 most chaotic modes in tf2. Randomized, class wars, and x10 Now I’m just saying, imagine that combined lmao. With rtd to add to the chaos too.
2024 and Im STILL shocked we NEVER got the TF2 equivalent of Overwatch's "Mystery Heroes" where everytime you die you respawn as a random hero. This game would be PERFECT for it.
I remember queueing up for casual dustbowl and joining a Heavy VS Heavy Shotguns only match. You could trade the ability to fight for a healing item or stick to melee, and it was the most hilarious fucking thing ever. After like 10 matches though, the server began devolving into pure madness and the rules were starting to be abolished as more and more heavies converted to minigunism. I love this game.
Lmaoooo what was the grenade kill marker?! from engie non the less. But amazing video! keep doing you, without it I wouldnt be into tf2 nearly as much today.
They would pick the Cow Mangler probably thinking that all the sentries would stay together so they can just deactivate them with the cow mangler's secondary shot
07:53 Sometimes when you hurt the enemy beyond half its maximum health but dies by any other reasons it can be shown in the kill feed as your kill and even count as kill and not assistance (when your objective kills itself)
Look, class wars are often similar, but never the same. We appreciate you doing another. :3 That said, I REALLY wish one of these servers would use something besides Dustbowl...
"never walk up to the doors on dustbowl pyros can fire through them" this is a thing with all maps, i wish valve would fix this but they have long abandoned TF2, i learned this upon being killed before the round began because a pyro decided to set me on fire well i was attempting to entertain his teammates via juggling explosives
There actually is a Class Wars Blackwonder server that runs maps other than Dustbowl, it should have rotation in the name, it runs everything from Turbine to Degroot Keep to even Hydro
Hey Blue if you see this, this is Duck (the guy that was pocketing you), just wanna say that you and the other random people were a blast to play with! This video is hilarious, can’t wait to see your next video!
2:03 there is one class wars server I know of that plays custom maps. It’s run by delfy and honestly it’s fun as hell since most’ve of the maps i ran on there were really good choices.
I once found a way to glitch the system on a class wars server and started playing Demoknight on a team of scouts against a team of snipers. Everyone was spamming in chat "A glitch in the matrix"
roll the dice (rtd) with class wars is cursed, me and my team were sniper, and the enemies were scouts. so the game end timer was at 1:00 on dustbowl, we had captured the first point but couldnt get the last cuz scouts had crit-a-cola. we were gonna accept our defeat but suddenly one of our teammates got powerplay and another got lucky sandvich and they immediately ran with their smgs to the point and clutched it at 0:02.
7:34 Maybe it's an anti-crash plugin? Since half the server is playing Engineer; there's going to be a lot of buildings and that takes up a good chunk of the object limit alongside projectiles, voicelines (an object is generated so that the server can sync the character's face with their voiceline), and especially cosmetics and ConTrackers.
i like how at 8:36 he was talking about how they needed a god-mode or powerplay, but when someone in chat rolled god-mode he was so focused on the dispenser that he didn't even notice the player rushing in lmao
when you roll godmode and die right after the effect wears off, you'll basically become a straight up martyr and take someone with you with the grenade.
The “spawn dispenser” and “spawn sentry” rolls only work if they’re placed on perfectly level ground, for some reason. This rules out a lot of dustbowl.
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1:16 I love how you can briefly see the scout instinctively go for the big medkit at full health
But he didn't. And I respect that.
If your cosmetics disappear, touching a resupply cabinet should fix it. Also, I find that crouching usually helps if you roll Spawn Dispenser or Spawn Sentry
I've done that before, and it does work sometimes. But other times it doesn't. So whenever the glitch happens, and the resupply cabinet doesn't restore my hats the first time I use it, then I just focus on the game and worry about my hats later.
But I did notice that switching your loadouts seems to fix the hats sometimes as well. Although even that doesn't always work
Really? I thought you could only place dispensers and sentries on flat surfaces
does anyone know what hud he uses
@@Joshy69 he's using the default HUD
@widesusie1111 i don't think that's on TF2 i think its just plugins being buggy
3:38 I mean, it's a metal grill. Of course flames are going to pass right through that thing
unlike bullets
bruh
What about the giant cleaver
@@TheWither129 cleavers use noclip on them
*grille
@@sirguinea3513 are you sure?
Playing as spy is a literal disasvantage in class wars.
In casual, it's never made clear what enemy classes you're fighting unless they show themselves in the spawn exit during setup time. Of course spy will have the element of surprise if he doesn't show himself during setup.
But in *this* case, the enemy team already knows what they're fighting. And because of this, it's harder to get the drop on them when they're expecting you 24/7.
well, and the fact that spys playstyle relys on people distracting others, problem is everyone is trying to get backstabs, so spy is always F tier unless its against engi, only then is it even just a B tier.
@@jerr4rd-4lways-d4-b3st and if the engi is using the minis spy goes back to f tier
@@wereowl9369 no it usually goes to E, mini's are usually still focused on dispensers and teles as well, and also the chance of an ENTIRE team using the same weapon is exactly 0.
Spy in general is just really bad.
Spy in class wars even loses to medic 💀
15:28 Look at that Medic, look a how happy he is
"If we can't piss off people we'll piss on people" -Great Blue, 2022
I bet Sniper would say that too.
The peak class wars moment for me was still the time I rolled Power Play 3 goddamn times in a row. The problem was that it was a Scout vs Engineer round.
Scout Versus Engineer shouldn’t be rollable. That’s the only match up I’d say is impossible. Especially on dustbowl.
May I add heavy v medic and Pyro v demoman
And if course, Spy vs any other class.
@@sheacorduroy5565 also rolling spy vs pyro is just a instant win for pyro
There actually is one that isn’t always dustbowl, it just has dustbowl in the server name. It’s a 32-player Blackwonder US server, just pay attention to the current map. The server can still play dustbowl though
yeah I got to join that one a couple times even today but it usually full as as many of us who play class wars goes
dustbowl hurts the brain
but so is scouts vs demoman on hydro just today we played neither side could push and the round timer had to save us from the horror of hydro
my favourite map on the class rotation server is playing helmsdeep. Awesome map, and great mix of payload and CP.
@@TheCrappyCompletionist it’s terrible engie auto loses and the map is way too big to have fun on playing heavy. It also makes spawn sentry rtd super op against some classes.
@@balancemaster55 we had to fight three spawn sentries, and guess what class the other team was? The engineer
Engie actually has a stupidly broken neesh in medieval servers with rtd.
7:53 A soldier did the kamikaze taunt, and you damaged him. So the game registered that that was a finish-off,but since the soldier died from the kamikaze taunt, the game said that you killed someone using the kamikaze taunt.
Man, tf2 spaghetti code can be pretty funny.
Does that make reverse kamikaze kill the rarest kill icon?
@@CoolGamer-qz5zp it isn’t rare just damage a soldier and ask them to kamikaze
@@insertuserhere1748 But what are the chances of that happening in casual
@@mariustan9275 common cuz you can just ask it in chat
play rotation class wars servers for other maps.
Same here
Do you know any good servers for that?
@@catlife6027 I Wish a Know One
@@catlife6027 two of the black wonder servers run it. One is usually full and the other is stuck on upward.
@@catlife6027 Delfy hosts a class wars server where maps rotate
dragons fury pyros actually usually out-dps heavies at close range usually because they have to track instead of burst damage which is much easier to get full dps
and tracking at melee range is kind of a pain because you have to compensate less or people seem like they teleport
@@Gensolink but in practice Pyro has neither the health nor the speed to take that advantage tho...
@@Chorismos yeah but better than the degreaser
15:20 i don't know why but seeing a handful of medics, half of them uber, running around like rats made me laugh louder that i should have
Class wars let's everyone know the strengths and weaknesses of each class
another addition to the long lists of ways to get a better tutorial experience than the one Valve gives you
Now i know that a team consisting of spies is useless!
@@carpetbeetle8349 what about engineer vs spy or demo?
And the spy's strength is having non-spy players on his team.
...wait
@@Spiffyo It speaks to how powerful Engi is if he knows what to expect.
Short Circuit takes away from the range and defense utility of the Wrangler but utterly blocks everything a Demo can throw at you, literally.
And good positioning and nests covering each other, plus your teammates being able to remove sappers makes it easy to counter spies.
18:19 I like how the lag made him in the position of the heavy wall. An mvm tactic where there are 4 heavy's stuck in a ceiling while a medic makes sheild and an engineer for dispenser
If you want to kill heavies as pyro the stock flaregun is your best bet since heavies are easy to hit, no damage dropoff and crits with 90 damage when they are on fire
Shouldnt the scorch be better with similar DPS, messing his aim up and crowd controll potrntial?
@@Warpzel65 Not really the scorch shot has pretty pitiful damage the heavy can just shrug off, the aim offset only really works on snipers and nobody else and they have access to healing items which they can eat themselves or give to burning teammates. So the flaregun is your way to go since it takes 4 shots with it to kill a full health heavy if the afterburn isn't interrupted between shots.
@@yeedog6145 As you mentioned the heavies have access to healing items so getting crits while burning will be problematic. You seem to be underestimating scorches damage which isnt that far off from flare guns and the difference is mostly in flares being burst especially because the bounce works on enemies that arent on fire. Also with the messing with aim part i meant a direct flare making heavy bounce up and having to readjust
@@Warpzel65
But... literally, if 4 pyros hit their flares, a Heavy insta-dies.
If 4 pyros hit their Scorches, even with crits, that's only 240.
They get access to healing items.
@@Warpzel65 scorch shots deal shit damage, you want a combo, scorch keep them lit flareguns do the damage
Ok hear me out: the 3 most chaotic modes in tf2. Randomized, class wars, and x10
Now I’m just saying, imagine that combined lmao. With rtd to add to the chaos too.
Well randomizer kinda ruins the gimmick of class wars
@@Mystic-Midnight but just imagine the *chaos*
Would randomizer even be compatible with class wars? Randomizer also randomizes your class.
@@ashtongiertz8728 I think that it would be coded in a way that randomizes your load outs / weapons, but not the class.
2024 and Im STILL shocked we NEVER got the TF2 equivalent of Overwatch's "Mystery Heroes" where everytime you die you respawn as a random hero.
This game would be PERFECT for it.
0:45
Rolls crits, gets killed by a random crit
Fair and balance
I remember queueing up for casual dustbowl and joining a Heavy VS Heavy Shotguns only match. You could trade the ability to fight for a healing item or stick to melee, and it was the most hilarious fucking thing ever. After like 10 matches though, the server began devolving into pure madness and the rules were starting to be abolished as more and more heavies converted to minigunism.
I love this game.
4:23
In that case you'll be spamming that scorch shot for a long long time.
>rolled crits
>got killed by a crit rocket
I love this game
Your class wars videos always bring a smile to my face
Same, they’re incredibly addictive too.
Class wars are even more ridiculous when I’ve seen randomizer on it
THANK GOD you made a new class wars video I missed them
4:12 my man just EXECUTED that heavy-
Two quotes in that scenario:
FINISH HIM!
The game was rigged from the start.
This is a bucket
0:50
3:06 "I feel kinda bad for doing this" keeps doing this
Great blue: yes I got crits!
Soldier: well I’ve got something better RANDOM crits!
I appreciate your use of the bird heads
they’re great hats and I’m sad not many people even know anything other than the chicken Kiev exist
Nothing more terrifying then a Ubered, crit driven engineer chasing you with a wrench
6:00
only a gamer would expect doors like that to protect them from a flamethrower
Once I played class wars and it was Spy vs Pyros and the demonic sounds from the other team was unreal
4:52 that voice crack
SPam scorch shot
My favorite part was that most of the scouts were using melee
Lmaoooo what was the grenade kill marker?! from engie non the less. But amazing video! keep doing you, without it I wouldnt be into tf2 nearly as much today.
Kamikaze taunt
the grenade is from you shooting and not killing a taunt killing pick soldier, and then you get the kill because he basically kill binded
Bro really equipped the sleeper, the jarate, and the HAM SHANK
Random crits, matchup unbalance AND RTD, what could possibly go wrong???
On dustbowl too, The most balanced map.
" Let's try the Sidney sleeper, if we can't piss them off we will piss on them." -Great blue
They would pick the Cow Mangler probably thinking that all the sentries would stay together so they can just deactivate them with the cow mangler's secondary shot
reality starts to melt when you realize that he is on the edge of sounding like chris griffon
0:45
Blue:WE GOT CRITS LETS GO
Game:No
17:25 When the bread monster said "NOM"
07:53
Sometimes when you hurt the enemy beyond half its maximum health but dies by any other reasons it can be shown in the kill feed as your kill and even count as kill and not assistance (when your objective kills itself)
0:40 as soon as he laughed, just a tiny bit, karma hit him harder than a revolver
0:30 hey thats me in the kill feed (im Ysh)
the way that Heavy dances while being on fire is funy
Look, class wars are often similar, but never the same. We appreciate you doing another. :3
That said, I REALLY wish one of these servers would use something besides Dustbowl...
I thought dust bowl was a nice map until I watched every single scout spamming bullets and throwables down the stairs and just spawn killing everyone
4:14
some of the best thumbnails on youtube, and awesome content 👍
Hi pirateer!
@@joeyjonquantaviusjr9927
Hi crippling Vaseline addiction!
And you make some of the best tutorials:)
you play TF2 your brain is already melted enough by the chaotic shenanigans that occur daily
"never walk up to the doors on dustbowl pyros can fire through them" this is a thing with all maps, i wish valve would fix this but they have long abandoned TF2, i learned this upon being killed before the round began because a pyro decided to set me on fire well i was attempting to entertain his teammates via juggling explosives
2:20 This is why i play the map rotation server
16 scouts vs 16 spys
16 sons vs 16 fathers
timestamps: heavy and spy
the screen: heavy and sniper
logic
There actually is a Class Wars Blackwonder server that runs maps other than Dustbowl, it should have rotation in the name, it runs everything from Turbine to Degroot Keep to even Hydro
There was a couple of months where I ONLY played class wars dust bowl... I think it changed me forever
9:14 missed opportunity to say "if we can't piss off people, then we'll piss ON people"
A shower of scorch shot flares is the scariest shit I've ever seen.
The Scout v Sniper round lasted a minute twenty five. 1:25. Scout and Sniper both have 125 base health. Coincidence? I think not.
great blue as the scout: i got a plan team
blu team: you always got a plan
Actually there are non-dustbowl classwars servers but all of the players are tryhards, and also they have medieval mode which doesn't go well
oh come on. helmsdeep is an awesome map
18:28 that heavy just watching you lmao
Class wars would probably be much more fun if both teams had to use the same class, or if you were forced to use like only 2 classes per team
If you spammed flares instead of scorch shots... Four flares kills a heavy.
6:32 your Jag went “I said we gettin crits today”
great blue: we got crits!
the soldier: and we got random crits, your point being?
Hey Blue if you see this, this is Duck (the guy that was pocketing you), just wanna say that you and the other random people were a blast to play with! This video is hilarious, can’t wait to see your next video!
Rip he didn't see this
This video alone makes me believe that GreatBlue and SoundSmith are spirtual brothers in arms and content
Advice: the tiny Mann rtd allows you to slip under enemy spawn doors, apparently
Heavy vs Sniper is just a horror game
engineer vs scouts is actual hell
Sniper vs heavy is basicly that ending scene from 300 played out over a number of minutes.
Come, we fight in shade.
2:03 there is one class wars server I know of that plays custom maps. It’s run by delfy and honestly it’s fun as hell since most’ve of the maps i ran on there were really good choices.
Scorch shot melts my brain
I once found a way to glitch the system on a class wars server and started playing Demoknight on a team of scouts against a team of snipers. Everyone was spamming in chat "A glitch in the matrix"
4:13
That was PERFECT.
roll the dice (rtd) with class wars is cursed, me and my team were sniper, and the enemies were scouts. so the game end timer was at 1:00 on dustbowl, we had captured the first point but couldnt get the last cuz scouts had crit-a-cola. we were gonna accept our defeat but suddenly one of our teammates got powerplay and another got lucky sandvich and they immediately ran with their smgs to the point and clutched it at 0:02.
Class wars looks really fun. I may actually try it if they start doing maps other than dustbowl.
2:40 there is one blackwonder server that is labeled as dustbowl but it actually does rotate through other maps (mostly custom ones)
Thank you for uploading this swag class wars video on my birthday.
“If we can’t piss people off then… we’ll piss, on people” -great blue 2022
0:50
"Dear god."
"There's more."
*"No."*
class wars in tf2 has always been a strange case to me
7:34
Maybe it's an anti-crash plugin? Since half the server is playing Engineer; there's going to be a lot of buildings and that takes up a good chunk of the object limit alongside projectiles, voicelines (an object is generated so that the server can sync the character's face with their voiceline), and especially cosmetics and ConTrackers.
“A wins a win”
Most controversial statement from Great Blue, or any TF2 youtuber ever.
Technically cow mangler has the ability to temporarily disable sentries... although you'd probably be better just shooting the sentry down anyway
kid named building damage reduction
when i saw the thumbnail i was like YOU CANNOT BURN ME IM ALERDY ON FIRE
5:33 cause m2 disables sentries
15:25 What an amazing kill cam.
Heron if you wanna increase your melee kills by a significant amount just time your hits instead of holding left click…
i like how at 8:36 he was talking about how they needed a god-mode or powerplay, but when someone in chat rolled god-mode he was so focused on the dispenser that he didn't even notice the player rushing in lmao
"Scout vs Spy"
Father vs son moment
For the Heavy vs Sniper you should've used the Fist of Steels
18:26 it’s like when u get headshot as heavy but live, u got pinned by a huntsman
that power play engi scene felt like watching freak fortress lmao
when you roll godmode and die right after the effect wears off, you'll basically become a straight up martyr and take someone with you with the grenade.
The “spawn dispenser” and “spawn sentry” rolls only work if they’re placed on perfectly level ground, for some reason. This rules out a lot of dustbowl.
That thumbnail is a POV of what happens if you criticize the weapon balance of the scorch shot in front of pyro mains.
2:47 yeah, everyone always forgets about the third exit.