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    Tony Visconti was a New Yorker at the heart of post-swinging London, the producer who helped the UK cope with its ‘60s hangover. With T. Rex and, chiefly, David Bowie, he produced records synonymous with rock’s cutting-edge in Soho in the ‘70s.
    Producer Tony Visconti explained how he found himself in London during the Swinging '60s, detailed his work with David Bowie on the Berlin Trilogy and revealed insights into what it takes to be a producer in this lengthy lecture at RBMA Madrid 2011.
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    TOPICS:
    10:56 - Vocalists
    16:26 - Heroes
    34:03 - Bolan & Bowie
    45:11 - Scary Monsters
    1:04:10 - Harmonizer
    1:26:16 - Lodger
    1:42:05 - Gentle Giant
    1:57:18 - Brian Wilson
    MUSIC:
    00:50 - T. Rex - “Get It On” • T. Rex - Get It On (19...
    20:57 - David Bowie - “Heroes” • Video
    32:54 - The Beatles - “Eleanor Rigby” • The Beatles - Eleanor ...
    44:35 - David Bowie - “She Shook Me Cold” • David Bowie - She Shoo...
    48:03 - David Bowie - “Fashion” • Video
    1:10:22 - David Bowie - “Be My Wife” • Be My Wife - David Bowie
    1:10:14 - David Bowie - “Art Decade” • David Bowie Art Decade
    1:29:20 - David Bowie - “African Night Flight” • Video
    1:41:29 - David Bowie - “It’s No Game (Part 1)” • David Bowie - It's No ...
    1:43:18 - Gentle Giant - “Why Not” • Gentle Giant Why Not
    1:43:29 - Gentle Giant - “Edge of Twilight” • Gentle Giant: Edge of ...
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Комментарии • 212

  • @RBMA
    @RBMA  4 года назад +13

    ► Read more on Tony Visconti here...
    www.redbullmusicacademy.com/lectures/tony-visconti-1

    • @kikeheebchinkjigaboo6631
      @kikeheebchinkjigaboo6631 3 года назад

      Genocide of Beauty: CULTURAL MARXISM IN THE ARTS

    • @marypartridge5154
      @marypartridge5154 2 года назад

      Takes me back to Norfolk where as a young teenager I,met Roy Thomas Baker. And he took me to London and I remember he was a terrible driver. And he spoke about Marc Bolan. Roy went onto be with Queen.

  • @seanpages__
    @seanpages__ 3 года назад +27

    This is how you interview a legend! Let them talk and be chill.

    • @Zobin211
      @Zobin211 3 года назад +4

      Great point Sean. The hallmark of a great interviewer is that they LISTEN and let the guest do the talking. This host was incredible. He never cut off Mr. Visconti or attempted to steer this interview in any particular way. And then, when he did ask his questions, they were always really good ones that compelled very deep and lengthy answers. Of course it certainly helped that Tony was very open to sharing his thoughts and was quite articulate. But, yes, this is how interviews should go.

  • @sandrabecht4489
    @sandrabecht4489 3 года назад +30

    Interviewer did a good job by not interrupting👍🇩🇪

  • @cyclesgoff9768
    @cyclesgoff9768 4 года назад +80

    I must say that young chap handled the interview really well.

    • @mightyV444
      @mightyV444 3 года назад +2

      Oh yes! Much better than Trevor Horn's interviewer!

    • @topofthemornintoya
      @topofthemornintoya 3 года назад +3

      He was leaps and bounds above the other RBMA interviewers

    • @Halfagrapefruit
      @Halfagrapefruit 3 года назад +1

      What’s his (the interviewer) name?

    • @ianturton4976
      @ianturton4976 3 года назад +2

      Anybody remember that MTV kid that was a total asshole and probably the most disrespectful, ignorant idiot interviewer ever?

    • @viennagramophone3103
      @viennagramophone3103 3 года назад +1

      @@Halfagrapefruit Benji B

  • @johnhenni2808
    @johnhenni2808 2 года назад +3

    I love how he speaks about Marc Bolan, always very respectfully.

  • @atlantaguitar9689
    @atlantaguitar9689 5 лет назад +84

    I think Tony is too modest here but he is a class act in my opinion. His contributions to both Bolan and Bowie were much more than most people realize.

    • @jessica5497
      @jessica5497 3 года назад +15

      Lol this reminds me of that parody "It is on RUclips" an animation of Tony saying "producer tony Visconti, doing more than people think"

    • @stevetobin7495
      @stevetobin7495 3 года назад +1

      And lizzy

    • @johnmchugh8049
      @johnmchugh8049 3 года назад +4

      Tony is a genius

    • @inranglhood60
      @inranglhood60 2 года назад

      And McCartney

    • @Servoboy
      @Servoboy 2 года назад

      @@jessica5497 ruclips.net/video/2Q_ZUNvV-80/видео.html

  • @michellem.winstanley-south243
    @michellem.winstanley-south243 5 лет назад +34

    This gentleman is an absolutely brilliant human being whose contribution to music is unsurpassed. He is truly a gift and a light in this world! Bravo Mr. Visconti!!!

    • @jamiecalder2093
      @jamiecalder2093 4 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/FODvjYoVEi8/видео.html

    • @Servoboy
      @Servoboy 2 года назад

      Totally agree , I buy music I like and often over the years I've bought Music and its been Tony who's produced it. It makes me feel there is a relationship with his production that I like. Two examples were Evil Spirits the Damned and Good , The Bad and The Queen - Merry Land. On buying them found out Tony Produced.

  • @tinabolesful5184
    @tinabolesful5184 3 года назад +10

    African Night Flight is my favourite David Bowie song of all time. Loved that story

    • @Zobin211
      @Zobin211 3 года назад +1

      I smiled when Visconti asked that the host play "African Night Flight" as the Lodger track. Incredible song off an astonishing album.

  • @cmjones83
    @cmjones83 3 года назад +10

    That photo of Siouxsie Sioux, Bob Geldof and Phil Lynott! What a party that must have been.

  • @Zobin211
    @Zobin211 3 года назад +11

    This was a fantastic interview. As a huge Bowie fan I, of course, have known about Visconti for years and have always valued his contribution to Bowie's catalog, but I learned a LOT more about Tony's other projects from this program and that was wonderful.

  • @GoDamnWeird
    @GoDamnWeird 4 года назад +7

    I have to say that the only way anyone could dislike this is if they have no idea what they're watching and no appreciation for music. Thank you Tony Visconti, you were an influence on the development of my ears and helped broaden my musical horizons long before I knew who you were. Credit where it is due, man. Amazing to hear you explain your process. Truly one of the Greats.

  • @chopsueykungfu
    @chopsueykungfu 3 года назад +17

    Brian Eno says the Berlin trilogy is 1) The Idiot by Iggy Pop 2) Low by Bowie and 3) Heroes by Bowie. Bowie produced The Idiot, Tony Visconti produced Low and Heroes. All three were created in and around Berlin. Lodger was made in NY and Switzerland, and often thought to be part of the 'Berlin trilogy'.

    • @hazelwray5307
      @hazelwray5307 3 года назад +4

      Brian Eno said that Tony doesn't get enough credit for those ('Berlin') albums; that he was able to distil and shape a lot of disparate information.

    • @slaterslater5944
      @slaterslater5944 2 года назад

      @@hazelwray5307
      Tony says Tony doesn't get enough credit too ;-)

    • @CormacFourteen
      @CormacFourteen 6 месяцев назад +1

      But The Idiot was recorded in France, finished off in Munich, and mixed at Hansa in West Berlin (although not the same Hansa studio as Heroes was recorded in). Low was mostly recorded in France at the same studio as The Idiot, and finished off at the same Hansa studio. So I am not sure of Eno’s logic. I believe Iggy Pop’s Lust for Life was entirely recorded in West Berlin so that would make a better candidate.

  • @todd3205
    @todd3205 3 года назад +6

    This gentleman speaks of the music and musicians that were our life. Phenomenal.

  • @dimitreze
    @dimitreze 4 года назад +34

    great guy, great interview
    I just can't get enough of it

  • @johnhenni2808
    @johnhenni2808 2 года назад +1

    Tony Visconti is such a brilliant man and is so generous in how he talks about all the great musicians he worked with.

  • @Nomo_Popo
    @Nomo_Popo 3 года назад +5

    Legend. I like his attitude and lack of hubris. Any wannabe-producers should see him as the template.

  • @Servoboy
    @Servoboy 2 года назад +1

    A must watch for Marc and David Fans. Tony is relaxed and talks from the heart. As always. Lovely man.

  • @zambrota55
    @zambrota55 4 года назад +25

    It's hard to believe how few people saw this interview. How lucky I am to have been exposed to this ... Tony has always been one of the greatest and ... humble ... to see what records he produced ... just as important as George Martin .... at least

  • @joegombold
    @joegombold 3 года назад +7

    Great interview! These 2 hours just flew... Thanks Mr. Visconti for sharing all that and for the great contribution to music.

  • @stevenmcgihon3278
    @stevenmcgihon3278 2 года назад +2

    Does Mr. Visconti discuss lyrical content and dramatic overview of the 3 albums?
    Or is his review all of the innovative music.
    Tony deserves Rock Hall status.

  • @yragnellaable
    @yragnellaable 3 года назад +5

    Excellent interview.
    I'm embarrassed to say I always thought Eno produced those Berlin albums .
    Visconti is a true gentleman.

    • @twkotb
      @twkotb 3 года назад +2

      ruclips.net/video/FODvjYoVEi8/видео.html

  • @marypartridge5154
    @marypartridge5154 2 года назад +2

    Ive found this often, the more talented they are the more they are modest. And this is Tony, such a natural genuine guy. I can see why David Bowie would love him.

  • @stevenmcgihon3278
    @stevenmcgihon3278 2 года назад +4

    Dear Mr. Visconti, It took me "Blackstar", to figure out some things on on "Low", "Heroes", and "Lodger", which helped me understand "Alladin Sane". And understanding "Scary Monsters", helped me understand everything else. Was David a Time Traveler?

  • @versioncity1
    @versioncity1 4 года назад +4

    I love these sort of talks where people talk about their 'craft'. Wether you write, paint, play music, make films, etc etc, you can always learn something from people like this and bring it into what you do.

  • @christineharrelson4831
    @christineharrelson4831 3 года назад +4

    This was fantastic. How anyone could put a thumbs down I do not know. Listening to the methods of making music as well as the side stories was so fascinating. Thank you for the upload!

  • @ericmalone3213
    @ericmalone3213 3 года назад +10

    "There's something else going on besides The Beatles... That was George Martin." And it was also, very significantly, Geoff Emerick.

  • @TheBrightjay
    @TheBrightjay 4 года назад +11

    A good watch on lockdown
    Nice way to pass time

    • @bouffantmoose
      @bouffantmoose 3 года назад +1

      And again, now! 10 months later

  • @sspbrazil
    @sspbrazil 3 года назад +3

    The photo of Phil Collins that Tony couldn’t remember the session is from the Argent album “Counterpoints”, Phil played drums on the album filling in for Argent’s regular drummer Bob Henrit who was ill. I’m glad he talked bout Gentle Giant, but I also wish he would have talked about The Strawbs, he produced 4 of their albums. “The Man Who Sold The World” is one of my favorite albums as are “Scary Monsters” and “Lodger”.

  • @gpeddino
    @gpeddino 3 года назад +6

    Amazing interview. Tony is such a graceful and charming person. Not to mention his outstanding talents.

  • @broncodeviltexas
    @broncodeviltexas 4 года назад +13

    Bang a Gong and Heroes. OMG. Thanks Tony.

  • @girlinagale
    @girlinagale 3 года назад +20

    Frickin copyright, this is important historical documentary, I want to hear the music.

    • @Dave_Sisson
      @Dave_Sisson 3 года назад +7

      When they cut some music, I stopped the video, opened another RUclips window and listened to the track he mentioned, before resuming this video.

    • @girlinagale
      @girlinagale 3 года назад +1

      @@Dave_Sisson Yes, working for ourselves. It never stops.

    • @myaphextwin807
      @myaphextwin807 Год назад +1

      @@Dave_Sissonreally? A lot of effort if you already now the songs.

  • @thomasraven
    @thomasraven 3 года назад +8

    Why cut out even the alternate music tracks? So frustrating to watch this great interview with the music removed.

    • @SungazerDNB
      @SungazerDNB 3 года назад +6

      It's because copyright law is completely fucked.

    • @linden5165
      @linden5165 3 года назад +5

      I paused and listened in another tab.

  • @ivannio5836
    @ivannio5836 3 года назад +1

    Absolutely as I said 100s of times to myself "Scary Monsters is Bowies Sgt. Peppers!" Bravo Tony Visconti for saying it loud ;) Great interview by the way. Thank you :)

  • @Alun49
    @Alun49 2 года назад +1

    'Low' turned me on to Bowie and Eno. A landmark album and completely unique.

  • @ericjourdain892
    @ericjourdain892 3 года назад +2

    The bright side of Visconti.

  • @bluntsafety
    @bluntsafety 3 года назад +1

    Art Decade (a pun on street names) is the one that turned my world around, and around. The idea of something expanding opened me up. I play it on my Yamaha organ. Sounds great!

    • @johnnyhartley4330
      @johnnyhartley4330 3 года назад +2

      I wonder if it is a play on words, maybe Art Decayed?

  • @oskarklang8616
    @oskarklang8616 2 года назад

    Tony is a legend.Very humble and clever man.

  • @todd3205
    @todd3205 3 года назад +1

    This is a gem.

  • @nickybedo7455
    @nickybedo7455 3 года назад +1

    I love Tony's New York accent, fantastic interview!!!

  • @PontusWittenmark
    @PontusWittenmark 2 года назад

    The guy doing the interview is also really good - all the right questions, and at the right time.

  • @buckleygeneration
    @buckleygeneration 3 года назад

    Wonderful interview. This is a minor thing, but I love Tony’s accent. You can really tell how much time he’s spent in Britain.

  • @mitfreundlichengrussen1234
    @mitfreundlichengrussen1234 2 года назад +1

    So effed up to cut out the music - pure sign that the music industry is completely rotten. Thanks, Mr. Visconti for trying to share.

  • @tyronerodgers
    @tyronerodgers 3 года назад +1

    Amazing anecdotes! What a guy! Love his stories!

  • @twisttrax
    @twisttrax 3 года назад +3

    A very interesting and absorbing interview!

  • @stevenfielden8955
    @stevenfielden8955 4 года назад +10

    The man with the golden eardrums..

  • @twisttrax
    @twisttrax 3 года назад

    Bolan was my hero and biggest influence on my life so thank you tony. It must have been so exciting. I loved Bowie too so i have so much respect for you!

  • @fistsup5700
    @fistsup5700 3 года назад

    I would loved to seen Tony work in the studio after this talk. I would be amazing to see him work.

  • @robertiaccarino4363
    @robertiaccarino4363 3 года назад +1

    Classy guy; much respect to T. V.

  • @dafyddil
    @dafyddil 3 года назад +2

    To have done the things he's done and seen what he's seen. WOW

  • @almo2001
    @almo2001 3 года назад

    I love his work with The Moody Blues.

  • @hamsterbass123
    @hamsterbass123 2 года назад

    youtube gem right here fellas

  • @Bawookles
    @Bawookles 3 года назад +1

    Love both Bowie and Gentle Giant, glad they got a shout out at 1:41:47

  • @tarynmcnamara6006
    @tarynmcnamara6006 4 года назад +4

    He's from one of my old neighborhoods, Dyker Heights, Brooklyn!!

  • @JuanJLopez-ge7vi
    @JuanJLopez-ge7vi 4 года назад +1

    One of the best lectures!

  • @johnmchugh8049
    @johnmchugh8049 3 года назад +2

    Tony is amazing

  • @ludwigbagin
    @ludwigbagin 2 года назад

    What a great interview!

  • @rawspaghetti9185
    @rawspaghetti9185 3 года назад

    Thank you very much , amazing interview

  • @nummernein
    @nummernein 3 года назад +1

    What a great interview. Cheers!

  • @MegaSickcat
    @MegaSickcat 2 года назад

    Totally enjoyed listening to Tony...So informative and knowledgeable...Too bad the audience seemed to be sleeping...

  • @jiggersotoole7823
    @jiggersotoole7823 3 года назад +2

    17:00 courageous recording

  • @thevonlmo5906
    @thevonlmo5906 3 года назад

    This interview is a terrific companion piece to his autobiography. However if you read his book, have Utube on standby as he mentions a ton of artists that he was involved with over the decades.

  • @gandalfshakur8235
    @gandalfshakur8235 3 года назад +3

    Before his remix, Lodger was my least fave 70s Bowie album. After the remix, in my Bowie Top 3. You can find the whole remixed album here on YT.

  • @tarynmcnamara6006
    @tarynmcnamara6006 6 лет назад +4

    Live and direct straight from one of my neighborhoods, Dyker Heights, Brooklyn New York!!!🌉🌃

  • @spelf
    @spelf 3 года назад

    What a fascinating interview 👌👌

  • @DjangoThunders
    @DjangoThunders 3 года назад +1

    The man the myth the legend!!!!!

  • @LlewynDaviesTheThird
    @LlewynDaviesTheThird 3 года назад

    great interview

  • @gary.solexa
    @gary.solexa 3 года назад +1

    Very cool and dignified guy, and great interview overall.

  • @ZINCOVIX8754
    @ZINCOVIX8754 3 года назад

    Brilliant interview.

  • @patordie
    @patordie Год назад +1

    someone get this man some water for the love of god

  • @festersuncle6298
    @festersuncle6298 3 года назад

    I was listening to Station to Station while watching this. Hey Tony, you made it!!!!

    • @iantaylor5911
      @iantaylor5911 3 года назад +1

      Tony didn't produce Station to Station. That was Bowie/Harry Maslin.

    • @festersuncle6298
      @festersuncle6298 3 года назад

      @@iantaylor5911 Thought TV was involved? But uncredited.....idk.

    • @iantaylor5911
      @iantaylor5911 3 года назад

      @@festersuncle6298 My understanding is that he had other commitments and so wasn't involved. I've seen him quoted as saying it was his favourite Bowie album that he hadn't produced. Anyhow, a great album and in my top three along with Hunky Dory and Heroes.

    • @stephenbrown7545
      @stephenbrown7545 Год назад

      @@iantaylor5911 Bowie barely remembers recording Station to Station.

  • @telsutton
    @telsutton 3 года назад

    Klein and Hummel OY monitors @1hr34mins... bagged some for £20 two years ago. Incredible.

  • @graaarm
    @graaarm 3 года назад

    Married Mary Hopkin and May Pang. What a legend!!

  • @clausm2203
    @clausm2203 3 года назад

    Great interview

  • @dela4153
    @dela4153 Год назад +1

    whats with the weird rubber bands on the sofa?

  • @peteriuliano5846
    @peteriuliano5846 3 года назад +1

    Did Tony Produce BOWIE Prior To The Berlin Saga? Like Earlier Records Going Back To 1970-1973?

    • @freyafarmer7789
      @freyafarmer7789 3 года назад +3

      Yeah, their relationship dates right back to Bowie's very early days with Space Oddity

    • @hazelwray5307
      @hazelwray5307 3 года назад +1

      Not, Hunky Dory; "Ziggy"; Aladdin Sane; Pin ups.

  • @AlfredoRoccia
    @AlfredoRoccia 3 года назад +1

    Does someone know for which other record, apart from Band on the run, Visconti and McCartney collaborated with? That picture seems to be more recent than the 70s...

    • @twkotb
      @twkotb 3 года назад +1

      Press To Play album 1986, Tony is credited for orchestral arrangements

    • @AlfredoRoccia
      @AlfredoRoccia 3 года назад

      @@twkotb thank you!!

  • @robbiepeterh
    @robbiepeterh 3 года назад +1

    The records may say David Bowie on the cover, but really it should read Bowie, Eno and Visconti ✌🏼

  • @bigneon_glitter
    @bigneon_glitter 3 года назад

    Bootsy Collins in the audience? Mindblowing. Great conversation.

  • @djsjjd15
    @djsjjd15 3 года назад +2

    From this video, I learned that if I'm tasked with making a set "cool" ("Extreme"?) enough for Redbull and all I have is a bland, dirty, old, gray couch, I can just wrap some hot neon straps around the cushions and I'm in business... Also, if the armrests happen to be so dirty that you don't want the artists' clothes to get anywhere near them, just grab some bar mats in a complementary cool/Extreme color, put under said straps, then paint audience chairs in the entire hot neon palette and people won't even notice.

    • @Dave_Sisson
      @Dave_Sisson 3 года назад +3

      After seeing this video, I'm about to head out to buy some electric blue tape to brighten up the old beige couch in my living room.

  • @Nomo_Popo
    @Nomo_Popo 3 года назад +5

    Imagine being 22 and moving to London in 1967 OMFG

  • @averyadrian1534
    @averyadrian1534 3 года назад +2

    Are those supposed to be sand bags forming the walls?

  • @rini6
    @rini6 3 года назад

    If I think a recording is something that will make or break me I’ll probably be frozen in anxiety. 😂😂😂

  • @Johnnywhamo
    @Johnnywhamo 3 года назад +7

    Is there anything Red Bull doesnt get their greedy claws into? Seriously, when I think of music I think Red Bull.

  • @sadderthanyou7793
    @sadderthanyou7793 3 года назад +1

    All this mighty talk and he's crushing the dynamic range of his masterings like an amateur. His recent remasters of the Bowie albums are horrible.

  • @samsquid65
    @samsquid65 2 года назад

    Fantastic!

  • @idicusmax
    @idicusmax 3 года назад

    My favourite Producer of all time.... on my bucket list is; to hire Tony to do a record.

  • @ericcrawford9827
    @ericcrawford9827 4 года назад

    Sometimes the past catches up with you, sometimes it kicks you in the teeth. x

  • @milesdufourny4813
    @milesdufourny4813 3 года назад

    All I want to know is why Michael Rother wasn't asked to play on any of the Berlin sessions?

  • @niksanike6583
    @niksanike6583 4 года назад +5

    Bowie was true gent and Visconti is true gent to

  • @albertosordina7777
    @albertosordina7777 5 лет назад +2

    i love you tony

  • @Trogdor204
    @Trogdor204 4 года назад +3

    Fantastic interview! But WTF is up with that couch?

    • @linden5165
      @linden5165 3 года назад

      I thought the same! The wall and sign are pretty ugly too.

  • @suginami123
    @suginami123 3 года назад

    Great essential history.

  • @francescaruby1150
    @francescaruby1150 3 года назад

    His passion is communicable.

  • @senzarivali
    @senzarivali 5 лет назад +2

    Gold!

    • @hazelwray5307
      @hazelwray5307 3 года назад

      "your indestructible"..."always believe in" (cue Bongo's)

  • @jeffstclair9221
    @jeffstclair9221 3 года назад +1

    Great to hear Visconti talking about this stuff ... but why is'nt the music included ....

  • @peteriuliano5846
    @peteriuliano5846 3 года назад +2

    I Guess He's Saying That There's An Engineer In The Room Along With The Band And Along With Tony (The Producer) Who Will Translate Requests For Sound Control Into Specific Dials And Switches But Tony Will Help Create That Sound I Suppose.

  • @merlussaoficial
    @merlussaoficial 4 года назад +1

    wou !! i love this interview

  • @davidayer2168
    @davidayer2168 3 года назад

    What song is he talking about at the beginning??

    • @davidayer2168
      @davidayer2168 3 года назад

      @@williamhouston5765 Thanks man I figured it out but that was five min of nothing but pronouns

    • @martinhaughey5745
      @martinhaughey5745 3 года назад

      T.Rex -'Get it On'

    • @martinhaughey5745
      @martinhaughey5745 3 года назад

      T.Rex- Get it On

  • @platinecoiffure7833
    @platinecoiffure7833 3 года назад +1

    My only complaint is that we don't get to hear the music!

    • @kalebzamudio2298
      @kalebzamudio2298 3 года назад

      I think the video would get flagged for copyright and removed if they included it

    • @christineharrelson4831
      @christineharrelson4831 3 года назад

      Licensing issues; video would have copyright issues.

  • @peteriuliano5846
    @peteriuliano5846 3 года назад +1

    Who's Harry Maslin?

    • @Tawny6702
      @Tawny6702 3 года назад +1

      An American producer and recording engineer, he worked on parts of Young Americans and produced Bowie’s follow up album Station to Station, I think Bowie and Visconti had a bit of a fall out over some issues while making Young Americans and they parted ways for a while.