I must say, these videos where you work as a team and do a breakdown of what is going through your head as you engage are absolutely fantastic. Some of your best content by far and so addicting to watch. Please keep doing more of these.
It’d be interesting to see a role reversal on this, how challenging would it be to be on the Mirage side and going against the F-16 in BVR (2v2). I don’t know much but especially about French fox-3s how much of a threat MICA-RFs could pose.
It would be very interesting for sure. Mirage has a very good climb rate and is fast too as it was originally designed as an interceptor so lower t/w might not hurt as much in getting high and fast. Mica RF is inferior to amraam but mica ir can be used kinda like r27et. It would surely be interesting and i think it's even. Desperately need a Mirage 2000-5. I mean it's not even in production anymore. Hope france builds more rafale and phases out Mirage so we can get it in dcs
@@utkarshchaurasia2233 it would be amazing to get a Rafale module but realistically we’ll probably get a full fidelity alien spaceship from Area 51 before the Rafale
Also it's especially fun to see a BVR engagement turning into a fox2 and guns only dogfight in the same video, as it seems most of your preexisting videos tend to show either one of these two types of engagements but almost never both.
@@GrowlingSidewinder lol what came to my mind was the old insurance commercial (I forgot the company) of the older guy with a dollar bill at the end of his fishing pole teasing folks saying “you gotta be quicker than that” Remember that ?
Yeah, you lost your wingman.....but you can always write a song about it. Back at base. At the O-club. While your ground crew is painting your victory marks on the side of your plane.
Sidewinder in 200 years: F-16 Boa Constrictor VS F-23485710957 Dogfight "yeah I got no chance in the two circle but I can still out-rate him on the deck"
At 3:47 you manually adjusted the range on the HSD. If you hit the DCPL button, it changes the HSD to CPL (coupled) mode so it will display the same range scale as the radar. That way you can always have decluttered displays and never have to take your hands off the HOTAS to click fiddly little buttons. IMO it makes the interface of the Viper SO slick and easy that way. I also like to switch from DEP to CEN sometimes when I'm running cold to maintain SA.
Hey GS, i have to thank you a lot. Today, in a VR Chat flight sim, in a F-16, I wasn’t ever shot down even when someone fired all their missiles at me. It was a lot of fun playing the game and the flashbacks of you playing in the F-16 was awesome. Thank you! (Its like non-stop studying for a test, fighting 2 guys was easy thanks to you)
Rest In Peace for your Wingman and he will be remembered. Also, You are a hero pilot in Turkey now! :) Kidding! Impressive Job dude. The F16 is just a beast in BVR. You are a well pilot too. On the other side, F16's don't look accurate with latest update. Previous Turkish F16"s were more accurate with K.Ataturk signature by canopy. I hope DCS will fix Turkish F16 layer. Rest in Peace all soldiers! Happy Memorial Day!
Great video as always... and I gotta say I love the paint job on those Hellenic Mirages... Even if they do end up a pile of spare parts! You could literally see the shadow of the MICA-IR on your aircraft as it passes! Thanks again bro for the mid-shift entertainment!
@@GrowlingSidewinder anytime brother. I’m chasing a dream too. I hope folks appreciate how difficult it is to get sponsors for this kind of content. You’ve worked very hard and it’s paying off! I couldn’t be happier for you.
I wish Razbam could give us the 2000-5 with these missiles. I love the mirage but it is suffering trying to fight at against everything when they out range you, and by the time you are in range they can use their IR missiles to kill you lmao.
I'm sure they would love to, but it's up to the AdA and Dassault to allow it. The rumor is that they're making a 2000-5 for training purposes and that we MIGHT get a sanitized version of it. Obviously that's not official by ANY means. I've also seen something indicating the AdA are getting a Razbam Rafale, but with zero intention to let civilians get hold of it.
Okay, you lost LongShot…but…dude…I’ve never seen you fly as well as that. Ever. Incredible. Just….out-f-in-standing. Right on the edge. Boom. Road to 1mil!
This was a knuckle biting, Flight Suit Pucker Spoil Havin', highly informative engagement. Most excellent, & the tac view at the end was illuminating to say the least.
8:42 It almost looked as if that missile had a defective fuse/detonator cause it was certainly close enough to splash your underside with shrapnel had it gone off.
You haven't given us one that cinematic since your Mig 29 vid, where you landed with the wing on fire. I love it when you and Longshot fly together. Great vid!
A little disappointed that you aren't making more WWII dogfighting videos. I find those videos much more engaging than computerized missile shots. Thanks!
Since you hit the first plane with the first launch at 30 you were correct about IF you had got the second missile off....emphasis on the future to zip along sooner or take a few seconds to fire second one.
Really nice showing! I really love the roleplay involved as you take on Mirages with Turkish F-16s on the Cyprus skies. As a Turkish viewer I was really suprised to see these details in the video, keep the great content up :)
Thanks GS, BFM i feel I have down and understand but BVR I still feel totally out of my depth and don't really get yet. I'm hoping these vids will help me as much as your BFM vids have.
I just love your channel. I really appreciate how informative you are and at the same time entertaining. I have really learned a lot and applied it to another game.
@@talha6852 yh..... disappointing , although i think that's the case bc everyone nows that growling is winning almost every time , so really it's a question of ''which side is growling playing as'' rather than ''best aircraft''
@@angryvoices177 yeah true that sidewinder is like a machine that only aims Hunting other planes lol but i found some cringy greeks complaining about name of f-16 lol
I know this is outside of your usual content, but War Thunder just announced that the F-14A is coming next patch. Even though the game isn't a "sim" I would love to see you do a comparison between their model and the DCS one. Thanks for the amazing content!
Here's a great scenario to test your skills; get in your favorite jet and arm it to the teeth. Then take on the AI, and with each victory, add an enemy plane to increase difficulties. See how many multiple bogies you can take on at once. Use any tactics including BVR that'll give you an advantage. I'd like to see you take on multiple WW 2 planes to start off with, then move to Gen-1 fighters, and so on.
How in the world did your prox fuse go off on your Fox-2 and his missile that nearly scraped your paint didn't? You know it's getting spicy when the commentary stops and captions start popping up. LOL. Nice fight.
Greece has 2000-5 Mk2 version with RDY-2 radar vs Turkish f16-block50 technically not Vipers (blk70+). The only Turkish advantage is probably turkish link16 to Awacs, but area will be unfriendly for the later, due to Rafale-meteor combination already serving the Hellenic Airforce.
please note that all f16s are vipers, viper is simply a nickname for the Viper like the warthog is a nickname for the Thunderbolt II, Viper models are distinguished using block numbers (as you mentioned above) but all F-16 are "vipers".
Your videos make me want to buy a flight simulator again. I started on IL 2 Sturmovik flight simulator fighting in American and German fighters. You make playing look awesome keep it up I tune in here all the time for some good dog fighting.
Nope DCS have the -5F variant not the Mk2 of HAF. HAF's Mk2s have a short range data link just for formation and better ICMS EW system (far more advanced than ASPIS I of Block 30/40/50 of THK) and RDY-2 radar able of tracking and locking 6 targets fire all its missiles at once (HAF loves the IR variant not the EM that those Mirages use mainly because the bandit won't get notification that there's a missile in the air because of it's IR tracking from 70km away). At TLP 2019 exercise M-2000-5Mk2 pilot of 331 Sqn was awarded with the Best Warrior/Pilot of NATO award. 331 Sqn is well known as Escort Master and that they never go defensive at Greece
Hey growling l, have you seen the new Top Gun: Maverick movie. If you have, could you try reenact the movie dogfights or the attack on the bunker in the new Be Maverick operation if possible
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Gs please do a video on Mig29 over Yugoslavia in 1999 during NATO offensive , against f16 or f15. Its been a while ignoring me bruwf
I must say, these videos where you work as a team and do a breakdown of what is going through your head as you engage are absolutely fantastic. Some of your best content by far and so addicting to watch. Please keep doing more of these.
First mirage didn’t defend, need a better opponent
It’d be interesting to see a role reversal on this, how challenging would it be to be on the Mirage side and going against the F-16 in BVR (2v2). I don’t know much but especially about French fox-3s how much of a threat MICA-RFs could pose.
Would be interesting, sadly we only have the older 2000C, not the 2000-5, that's playable, and that doesn't have fox-3s available.
It would be very interesting for sure. Mirage has a very good climb rate and is fast too as it was originally designed as an interceptor so lower t/w might not hurt as much in getting high and fast.
Mica RF is inferior to amraam but mica ir can be used kinda like r27et. It would surely be interesting and i think it's even. Desperately need a Mirage 2000-5. I mean it's not even in production anymore. Hope france builds more rafale and phases out Mirage so we can get it in dcs
@@utkarshchaurasia2233 it would be amazing to get a Rafale module but realistically we’ll probably get a full fidelity alien spaceship from Area 51 before the Rafale
Also it's especially fun to see a BVR engagement turning into a fox2 and guns only dogfight in the same video, as it seems most of your preexisting videos tend to show either one of these two types of engagements but almost never both.
Same here. We got to see best of both worlds. Great video!
8:42 Looks like GS has finally gotten tired of outrating other jets in the F-16, and has decided to start outrating missiles instead
Lold, it’s funny cuz it kind of seems like that’s exactly what happened.
@@GrowlingSidewinder reckon there could be a beginner's guide to DCS (and I guess air combat) terminology? Things like WEZ, going pitbull etc.
@@Xiphactinus He made one a few years ago, it's in the catalogue
@@GrowlingSidewinder lol what came to my mind was the old insurance commercial (I forgot the company) of the older guy with a dollar bill at the end of his fishing pole teasing folks saying “you gotta be quicker than that”
Remember that ?
@@MississippiKid96 ” I got somethin fur ya" "ooh ya almosss had it"
An F-16 with no wings has to be among the most terrifying things I've ever seen.
Yeah, you lost your wingman.....but you can always write a song about it. Back at base. At the O-club. While your ground crew is painting your victory marks on the side of your plane.
Sidewinder in 200 years: F-16 Boa Constrictor VS F-23485710957 Dogfight
"yeah I got no chance in the two circle but I can still out-rate him on the deck"
At 3:47 you manually adjusted the range on the HSD. If you hit the DCPL button, it changes the HSD to CPL (coupled) mode so it will display the same range scale as the radar. That way you can always have decluttered displays and never have to take your hands off the HOTAS to click fiddly little buttons. IMO it makes the interface of the Viper SO slick and easy that way. I also like to switch from DEP to CEN sometimes when I'm running cold to maintain SA.
or just get some keybindings to not have to fiddle with the mouse
We definitely need a 2000-5 as full fidelity module 😍
Hey GS, i have to thank you a lot. Today, in a VR Chat flight sim, in a F-16, I wasn’t ever shot down even when someone fired all their missiles at me. It was a lot of fun playing the game and the flashbacks of you playing in the F-16 was awesome. Thank you! (Its like non-stop studying for a test, fighting 2 guys was easy thanks to you)
Rest In Peace for your Wingman and he will be remembered. Also, You are a hero pilot in Turkey now! :) Kidding! Impressive Job dude. The F16 is just a beast in BVR. You are a well pilot too. On the other side, F16's don't look accurate with latest update. Previous Turkish F16"s were more accurate with K.Ataturk signature by canopy. I hope DCS will fix Turkish F16 layer. Rest in Peace all soldiers! Happy Memorial Day!
Are you turkish?
@@ΙωνΦλουδας idk but i am and im amazed that there isnt any arguements at the comment section this community is great ngl
That was a complete Matrix missile dodge moment @ 8:42 😎👍
Tango 1 Never Dies
Haha ah tango yaktın bizi
Loving the delta wing fights, they make for such interesting opponents
Anything mirage related has my attention…
Scratch that
Anything growling sidewinder related has my attention 😄
Amazing vid as always keep it up!
I appreciate you
Great video as always... and I gotta say I love the paint job on those Hellenic Mirages... Even if they do end up a pile of spare parts! You could literally see the shadow of the MICA-IR on your aircraft as it passes!
Thanks again bro for the mid-shift entertainment!
The Greek Rafales will probably make spare parts of the F-16s ;)
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Great video but you should have been on a greek f16
So glad seeing sponsorships for the channel! Great job GS, beautiful fight!
Thank you always grateful for subs who understand how huge that is for a channel. Thank you again.
@@GrowlingSidewinder anytime brother. I’m chasing a dream too. I hope folks appreciate how difficult it is to get sponsors for this kind of content. You’ve worked very hard and it’s paying off! I couldn’t be happier for you.
What a terrible situation in which to find yourself. Sick battle. Outnumbered, but still kicking ass.
I wish Razbam could give us the 2000-5 with these missiles. I love the mirage but it is suffering trying to fight at against everything when they out range you, and by the time you are in range they can use their IR missiles to kill you lmao.
I'm sure they would love to, but it's up to the AdA and Dassault to allow it. The rumor is that they're making a 2000-5 for training purposes and that we MIGHT get a sanitized version of it. Obviously that's not official by ANY means. I've also seen something indicating the AdA are getting a Razbam Rafale, but with zero intention to let civilians get hold of it.
What a beautiful slo-mo miss! LOL!
Great vid - thanks to you both! (and Takview was especially helpful)
How great would it be to fly a 2000-5 in DCS??
Very disciplined duel. Loves from Istanbul, Turkey :)
Thank you for Taking Turkisch f 16 very nice fight love Form Turkey
Too bad about your wingman, Longshot! Great video, you got really lucky with that one missile trying to shave your belly!
thank you for supporting the channel. much appreciated. and yes I didn't even know how close it got until I watched the replays lol
@@GrowlingSidewinder it's my pleasure. I enjoy your videos and I don't mind chipping in a few bucks.
Perfect timing!
I just walked out of the theater I went to watch Top Gun Maverick😂
Me too haha
8:35 Great Matrix-style sequence.
Go, Morpheus, errr…GS !
That's a good idea to cover two things in one video.
You are doing BVR engagements and then merging for dogfight. This is good. I like it.
i’ve been waiting to see a bvr turn into a merge dogfight like this, great flying. every new upload makes me wish i had a computer to play this.
Okay, you lost LongShot…but…dude…I’ve never seen you fly as well as that. Ever. Incredible. Just….out-f-in-standing. Right on the edge. Boom. Road to 1mil!
This was a knuckle biting, Flight Suit Pucker Spoil Havin', highly informative engagement. Most excellent, & the tac view at the end was illuminating to say the least.
Agreed! This was absolutely amazing! A highly stakes dogfight rivalling Hollywood!
Condolences for losing your wingman ... getting 5 malakas for the loss of one viper is an excellent outcome.
Hi love yours and longshots vids. Keep up the good work.
8:42 It almost looked as if that missile had a defective fuse/detonator cause it was certainly close enough to splash your underside with shrapnel had it gone off.
Agreed
@@GrowlingSidewinder
Yeah, cuz right prior you reversed then jinked on instinct. Some of that pilot shit, forsure, Mav...
You haven't given us one that cinematic since your Mig 29 vid, where you landed with the wing on fire.
I love it when you and Longshot fly together.
Great vid!
Could you put more pilots in the your squadron?? Maybe Shotgun. I think it would be a great video with you three together, the more the better.
Highlights the value of coordination among the elements of a group- not only sensor data but telling each other what you're trying to do.
What a video! 8:36 🔥🔥🔥🔥 you guys should definitely do more of these!
So glad to see that the comment section is actually about the aircraft and not who would win in an actual war etc
got here 7 seconds from uploading
Two of the best looking aircraft in DCS, those curves 👌
A little disappointed that you aren't making more WWII dogfighting videos. I find those videos much more engaging than computerized missile shots. Thanks!
The camera work around 10:40 is sick.
finally the video i have been waiting for
Damn, i've been looking to see a fight like this for a while... Outnumbered, slinging Fox-3's then Fox-2's AND guns? now THAT's intensity
Very interesting. BVR is much more than just standing off and launching AMRAAMs. Thank you for posting.
I expect the new Top Gun to give this channel a real boost in audience
On 8:41 theoretically the rocket would detonate. Because it passed too close to the turbine that was in afterburner mode.
HOLY SHIT! That missile was close!
Good thing you wore your brown flight suit that day
Since you hit the first plane with the first launch at 30 you were correct about IF you had got the second missile off....emphasis on the future to zip along sooner or take a few seconds to fire second one.
Really nice showing! I really love the roleplay involved as you take on Mirages with Turkish F-16s on the Cyprus skies. As a Turkish viewer I was really suprised to see these details in the video, keep the great content up :)
You are a Turkish hero now!
Thanks GS, BFM i feel I have down and understand but BVR I still feel totally out of my depth and don't really get yet. I'm hoping these vids will help me as much as your BFM vids have.
Wow! All in 1! That's seldom! Spectacular fight!
This was so awesome to watch! - Totally loved it!
That was impressive.
Turkey hasnt f16 vipers. Her best is f16 block 50m with mechanical radar
I just love your channel. I really appreciate how informative you are and at the same time entertaining. I have really learned a lot and applied it to another game.
Loved the video @Growling Sidewinder! Can't wait for the next video man! I wonder how the F-15 would do against the Mirage 2000-5?
LET'S GOOOOOO way to hang in at the end force the merge keep it one-cricle and Fox 2 HELL YEAH
🇹🇷 Thanks for this wonderful gameplay 👻
I enjoy this type of fight where it’s not all close in guns only dog fighting, seems slightly more realistic.
Good showing by both sides. Awesome dogfight video.
Unofficial day 95 of asking gs to take on the f22 in a warbird
i am here for the comments ie greek/turkish pilots best pilots etc
Same but couldnt find any
@@talha6852 yh..... disappointing , although i think that's the case bc everyone nows that growling is winning almost every time , so really it's a question of ''which side is growling playing as'' rather than ''best aircraft''
@@angryvoices177 yeah true that sidewinder is like a machine that only aims Hunting other planes lol but i found some cringy greeks complaining about name of f-16 lol
@@talha6852 the name of the f16?
@@angryvoices177 yeah they are saying "Turks doesnt has any viper its falcon bla bla bls" like this
Loved how things unfolded.
Do a Turkish F-16 vs a Greek Rafale video ;)
I know this is outside of your usual content, but War Thunder just announced that the F-14A is coming next patch. Even though the game isn't a "sim" I would love to see you do a comparison between their model and the DCS one.
Thanks for the amazing content!
"Wha... what? AMRAAM... Why U do this?" lol
Is this the first skillshare ad?? NICE!!
Here's a great scenario to test your skills; get in your favorite jet and arm it to the teeth. Then take on the AI, and with each victory, add an enemy plane to increase difficulties. See how many multiple bogies you can take on at once. Use any tactics including BVR that'll give you an advantage.
I'd like to see you take on multiple WW 2 planes to start off with, then move to Gen-1 fighters, and so on.
How in the world did your prox fuse go off on your Fox-2 and his missile that nearly scraped your paint didn't? You know it's getting spicy when the commentary stops and captions start popping up. LOL. Nice fight.
Greece has 2000-5 Mk2 version with RDY-2 radar vs Turkish f16-block50 technically not Vipers (blk70+). The only Turkish advantage is probably turkish link16 to Awacs, but area will be unfriendly for the later, due to Rafale-meteor combination already serving the Hellenic Airforce.
please note that all f16s are vipers, viper is simply a nickname for the Viper like the warthog is a nickname for the Thunderbolt II, Viper models are distinguished using block numbers (as you mentioned above) but all F-16 are "vipers".
Turkey has just Block 50‘s not Blk52 +
@@Šajze yes, I stand corrected.
@@Šajze turkey also has block 52+ turkey does modernize their f16s by themself just like israel
@@kemalsurmeli7722 no you don’t have
Greek Rafale vs Turkish F16 soon? More specifically METEOR vs AMRAAM
Best video yet! So intense I was sweating!
If the missile would proxy fused, then your engine would be made into swiss cheese.
Your videos make me want to buy a flight simulator again. I started on IL 2 Sturmovik flight simulator fighting in American and German fighters. You make playing look awesome keep it up I tune in here all the time for some good dog fighting.
Please fly in the livery of my old unit. 114th TFG, the Lobos. SD ANG. 😎
Awesome video! A drama with three acts.
Woof - close! Thanks guys, good work :)
NEED TO SEE TOP GUN MAVERICK.
they do a great job with terminology but they don't get into the one circle two circle tactics
"Goose!!" (I know he wasn't a RIO) Great fight!!!
F22 vs p51 pls
Same
Very good video and great fight skills of GS!!?👍🏻
The mirage can't shoot meteor. The battle has ended before starting.
Hellenic Air Force debates 😎🇬🇷
Subbed. New to DCS - were the mirages players?
That sure looked closer than 48 ft. !
For both of you to get through 5 Mirage... was a Longshot... :)
Turkish vipers vs Greek mirages, I think it will happen soon in rl
nah both sides have leaders like dogs they barking each other but not biting
Nope DCS have the -5F variant not the Mk2 of HAF. HAF's Mk2s have a short range data link just for formation and better ICMS EW system (far more advanced than ASPIS I of Block 30/40/50 of THK) and RDY-2 radar able of tracking and locking 6 targets fire all its missiles at once (HAF loves the IR variant not the EM that those Mirages use mainly because the bandit won't get notification that there's a missile in the air because of it's IR tracking from 70km away). At TLP 2019 exercise M-2000-5Mk2 pilot of 331 Sqn was awarded with the Best Warrior/Pilot of NATO award. 331 Sqn is well known as Escort Master and that they never go defensive at Greece
What is your problem? Nobody wants such a thing to happen...
Small correction it will be turkish F16 vs Greek Rafale
@@edimoulitsas or even Vipers vs Vipers
Growling Sidewinder's DCS lessons on Skillshare soon
more f-18 super hornet specifically the E model content plz!!
After the movie I need even more tomcat content 👌 enjoyed the bvr yall
You should also do a HAF Rafale vs TUF F-16 V. HAahahaahaha! Good Job!
6:45 technically a win-win !
That was an awesome sauce fight.
Skillshare, your balls will thank you. ;-)
Hey growling l, have you seen the new Top Gun: Maverick movie. If you have, could you try reenact the movie dogfights or the attack on the bunker in the new Be Maverick operation if possible
flying the iron beagle