Panasonic S1H: The Nerdy Stuff & Working with 6K
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- First impressions review of the Panasonic Lumix S1H focusing on the more technical details, as well as 6K editing performance and photographic capabilities.
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Effective+fun format for the video :)
I'd get one but it looks too much like a target. Just too tempting for too many here in Texas. Guess you can wear it and live in Canada, since everyone there is disarmed and bereft of a means of personal self-defense except a government issue Justin Trudeau autograph model Nerf bat.
@@geraldundone No mention of poor AF? Most clips Ive seen from the S1H show focus hunting and some missed focuses, and some frustrated to have missed their shots because of this just shooting in MF. Having waited for almost 3 years on an update to a7S2 and no clue when the a7S3 might ever be released I would have gone with the S1H.
What the heck is Panasonic thinking not having Phase detection AF on a mirrorless video focused camera? Even the Pro camcorders like Sony FX9 and Canon C700 are providing Phase based AF. I know those are way more expensive than the $4k price point of the S1H. My point being, that the old argument about "Professional DPs" dont need or use AF is no longer true. IF the platform they choose has good dependable AF they will use it, at least at the pro camcorder end of the "Cinema" production. On the mirrorless end, you've gotta have a solid AF solution now adays and it just blows my mind that Panasonic would release what would have been the perfect mirrorless video camera with only.contrast based AF. There is no firmware that will fix the AF, just because of the way contrast based AF works. To nail focus, track the subject, maintain the focus, all without focus hunting you have to have Phase detection or some implementation of Phase technology or a hybrid like Sony does where it uses both contrast and Phase to use the strengths of each as needed.
Any way, the S1H is an exceptional value and will definitely be producing some spectacular footage, but it will be done with someone taking away brain power away from composition and other areas to concentrate on manually focusing on the scene.
Please get Panasonic more onboard with solid AF using Phase detection in their S1 and GH lines
Thank you for the shoutout, and tackling these nerdy topics so I could focus on my subpar acting performance!
Yea, Jordan. Don't quit your day job.
Next intro: "Rødes? Where we're going, we don't NEED Rødes!"
I lean on BMPCC 6K for raw video which is less demanding to hardware. For photo, I would go for Canon M6 Mark II for 32M pixel sensor. So I only use EF mount lenses.
You, sir, are a major nerd... been learning with your content a lot... thanks for making me a better filmmaker... greetings from Chile
Points for Resolve I'm glad I made the switch a while back cause Premiere just isn't keeping up with the times it seems. Great vid as always man keep them coming.
Actually useful info when you showed your pc performance, finally some confirmation that premiere just asks much more RAM and CPU than I thought.
Hi Gerald. Always good to get your take on cameras. It’s be great to hear more about how you think it compares to the BMPCC6K in terms of final results.
Btw. Really liked your video re rigging the BMPCC
Thank you for this very interesting video and covering the special features of this camera in-depth, instead of just making one more variant of general review.
But with featuring all these other great people and their work, you also set a high standard of fairplay in the RUclips world!
Gerald, you’ll always be my go to guy with this stuff. So authoritative.
I held off buying a BMPCC4K because I knew this was coming out. It’s definitely the whole package as far as I can tell but ooooof that price tag + lens price tag too. It’s definitely on my “wish list” but I guess I need to up my revenue from video work to get it to be more than just a wish. When I reflect about it I have hard time not seeing myself just picking up a BMPCC4K to compliment my GH5 but I love the idea of a tidy, complete package with IBIS and not 1287 different after market addons to make it work effectively.
Decisions. 🤯
basically, the best video camera on the market
THIS IS ACTUALLY SO CLOSE TO THE PERFECT CAMERA!!! It’s only missing hybrid auto focus and electronic ND filters!!!
I depends what are you see as perfect camera because is a brick attach to a fan. Great spects but far from perfect to be a every day camera for pictures.
If they add hybrid auto focus, they should give us the ability to switch between contrast based, phase and hybrid. Not everyone likes the fast and inaccurate AF of Sony...Sometimes it's better to have a breathing but accurate AF...
@@Albanez39 breathing is also inaccurate until it becomes accurate so 1 out of 2. Sony is accurate until inaccurate, and accurate again so 2/3. I'd take 66% over 50%
No, it isn't. You haven't watched camera conspiracies yet
ivan rivas Very true
HOW do you only have 75k subscribers still. Like seriously??
And 3 months later he is at 97.8K Have some patience.
@@RichardsWorld And 1 month later he is at 110K. Get patience ;)
Thanks for going into these details. Much needed analysis for those who are serious about using this camera for regular content creation. The mash-up from other reviewers was nice too. Didn't realize that Henry's was covering tech launches / reviews as well.
Sometimes I wonder why would people think the details you are discussing are "nerdy"? These are some basic essential details one should be aware of even before buying the camera. Unless of course there happens to be a large customer base that buys the next most advanced camera just for kicks, or for showing off their new shiny toy, as opposed to making some films with it (a trend I usually notice with mobile phone users).
As content creators, what is the point of buying a 6K/4K camera if you don't have the editing workstation / storage solution that can handle those kind of files?
You're the best. So much better than ALL of your peers.
Love this summary. Great job dude!
the nerdy stuff should include the anamorphic modes: 1.33x, 1.5x, 2x and how there are special IBIS modes for those in the S35 ana shooting mode! and can you also dig into whether or not you can shoot 6k 3:2 with an ana lens and if you can modify the squeeze factor and ana IBIS settings??? these are the real nerdy stuff we need to know - there are literally dozens of us talking about this!!!!
love your videos Gerald great content!
So much awesome nerdy detail here. LOVE it. Thanks Gerald.
Next one " What's happening everybody I'm Garled Undone and I am the one who knocks"
@@huyked it's a reference to Breaking Bad ( The tv show )
Just search ( I'm not in danger, I'm the danger ) you'll find many clips
Love that show!
Dual gain sensors are so nice. Unless I need very high ISOs where it does make a difference, I use just two ISO values with my Nikon Z7 and D850 as well as my Sony a7r3. 64 and 400 with my Nikon cameras and 100 and 640 with my a7r3. I expose to the right and push or pull the lows and highs as needed in post. You guessed it. I do mostly still photography.
Loving this channel, great work!
Very intrigued by this camera, but I have a feeling it'll be awhile before I can afford to own it. Great analysis, Gerald!
It's everything I hoped. Curious when Atomos is going to sort out their raw solution. Nikon users have been waiting months. Maybe Blackmagic should release a cheap external recorder for BRAW?
BMD released two new braw capable recorders recently. But only cameras they have programmed de-mosaic algorithms for supported; currently only BMD cameras and two third party cameras, more to come. So apparently BRaw also needs to some camera specific work.
Here it is April 18th, 2020 and still waiting and waiting... and waiting.
my guy predicted the future
Premiere doesn't support decoding video with an Nvidia or AMD GPU, only the quicksync extensions in Intel CPUs. You need the Intel GPU turned on in your BIOS in order for Premiere to take advantage of them, at which point it will decode without using 100% CPU. You can verify this by clicking on the CPU in the performance monitor and seeing if the decode section shows up and is utilized. If you didn't enable the internal Intel GPU in your BIOS, you might want to retest. I also have an i7-8700k CPU and I am playing h.265 in Premiere using only 40% CPU.
Great thumbnail and nice shirt! The SH1 looks really great. I'm still bummed about the AF though.
Thanks so much, dude! 😃🙏
Panasonic has mentioned that the HDMI out of the camera is 4K only so unfortunately there will be no 6K ProRes out of the HDMI
Well, Panasonic and Atomos have announced they will be releasing Raw over HDMI from this camera, but no details. as of yet. So you never know... you MIGHT get ProRes Raw out of this in the future..
www.dpreview.com/news/9129800662/atomos-and-panasonic-to-co-develop-raw-video-for-the-panasonic-s1h
Perhaps USB-C...?
wait, if you need a ninja to get raw, but hdmi output is 4k only, isn't that a catch 22 and this camera can never have 6k raw? lol
I knew I'd seen it somewhere - SIGMA fp is using USB-C:
"...For video output, it uses USB3.1 (GEN1), which allows a smooth data transmission to an external recording unit..."
www.sigma-imaging-uk.com/cameras/fp/
Perhaps HDMI will be superseded for these throughputs.
This is beyond amazing information Thank You for awesome knowledge.
I want someone to compare the S1 with the new firmware and the S1H
That would be awesome!
the s1 is the best camera they released for sure. I held back on updates fir a reason.
Another cool feature they added to the menu system is the DISP. Filtering so you can essentially search for your codecs specifically by frame rate, resolution, and bit depth, instead of scrolling through a long list of codecs, subtle but ideal and Panasonic clearly listened to its users on that one.
Panasonic did it the right way. They gave videographers the functions they wanted without taking away functions that are more useful for photographers (s1 or s1r). No compromises. That's much better then what Fujifilm did with XT4. I went with S1R because of the XT4.
Awesome insights G! I'm gonna do what you did, and shout you and DP review out in my video (to come). I think everyone who's interested in the camera needs to watch yours and theirs. Great job!!
Thanks, Dale! Much appreciated. Eager to see your video! 😃👊
For what it’s worth the sample video plays just fine on my iPad Pro 11” on LumaFusion. Impressive. Hitting ~23% CPU usage (no way AFAIK to measure GPU usage on iOS ATM). The IBIS looks very decent.
No 6k ProRes or 6k ProResRAW HDMI out. For RAW it is basically restricted to 4k only. $4000 for 4k RAW??? No thanks. Meanwhile Blackmagic pocket 4k has 4k BRAW for $1295 and pocket 6k has 6k BRAW for $2495. Need to hear your thoughts on Pocket 6k Gerald.
This is a hybrid camera. Not just a cinema camera. It can take 96 mp high res stills and the only change from the S1 is the AA filter. Can the BMPCC 4k or 6k be used for stills as well?
There has not been a statement yet on the resolution for the RAW through HDMI. The Shogun can record Panasonic 5.7K RAW from the EVA-1. Will the S1H be able to do 6K or 5.9K to the Ninja V? Maybe not. Time will tell. s3.amazonaws.com/atomos-web-uploads/press/Press-Release-Atomos-Panasonic_S1H.pdf
The problem with Pocket 6K, IMO, is the ergonomics, battery life and the screen. The screen is not bright enough, and you block it when you need to build out your camera.
You've been busy. This is a beast of a camera. It has IBIS a mutant flippy and is rated for 400k shutters? Was there a group off in the corner wearing Canon and Nikon shirts taking notes? I hope so. I don't want to abandon them just yet.
Merch shirt looks cool Mr Stark. I may need to shrink a small size for my daughter 😃 . Thanks Gerald.
Great Gerald, keep undone"ing"!!!
Great content, great and easy presentation!!
7:24 mr. brownstone feeling at home doing his standup at the "fencing club" soundstage. who would be so smooth amidst such chaos? classic camera-youtube stuff there gerald.
That's right Gerald!! Let's get WON-DONE! Woooooooooo
Dude you rock, much appreciated
Already owning the BMPCC4K, I feel well equipped for my film making needs. That being said, if I were able to invest in another camera, it would probably be the S1H. Since, before my P4K, I shot with the GH5 and love what I can get out of Panasonic cameras.
This thing is high on my Wish list. I'd be REALLY curious to see a real break down out the 4:2:0 vs 4:2:2 however. I loved the S1 in my use of it but wanted these video features. Glad to see Panasonic pushing forward.
Gerald, much better voice speed in your latest videos. Much better on the ears. Thanks for the test file. Much appreciated.
I downloaded your 5.9K clip into Premiere and here are my results:
1) In the SOURCE WINDOW = 9% CPU, 50% GPU0, 40% GPU1
2) In the PROGRAM WINDOW:
- First 12 seconds = 100% CPU, 33% GPU0, 1% GPU1
- After first 12 seconds = 5% CPU, 33% GPU0, 1% GPU1
Sometimes I get dropped frames after 12 seconds sometimes I don't. I don't know why there is variation but it could be because I have other programs opened at the same time?
My specs are:
- XEON 18 core / 36 threads @ 2.69 GHz all cores
- 256GB DDR4 2400 RAM
- 2 x Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti 11GB
- OS drive / Premiere = Toshiba RD400 512GB NVME SSD
- File was played from Seagate 10TB 7200RPM drive
Thanks a lot for sharing!
Hmmmm...Blackmagic Pocket 6k for $2500 vs the S1H at $4000. I do like that flip screen but $1500 worth? Now I just need the Sony A7SIII announcement so I can finally decide on a new camera!
IBIS? Full Frame??
Reasonable 4k/6k file sizes? Baked in picture profiles for when you have fast turnaround or clients that don't want to grade? Tactile audio controls in a convenient spot, without cables and dongles hanging out the side of your camera?
IBIS was mentioned, but the biggest advantage of that feature is not having to build up a rig if you want to remain lightweight and nimble. Also, solid battery life on the internal battery. I love the image out of the Blackmagic pocket cameras, but they are incomplete out of the box.
@@nickharris5231 and that is something to consider. The "real" cost of the system. I was excited with the BMPCC 4K when it was going to be released. A great price and Resolve included. But then, what you had to add to it, the cost kept going up. For "me", a "one man band" and backpacker, it wasn't for "me". This S1H isn't for me either for that matter. But, if I were to choose, it would be the S1H. It is more ready to go out of the box. Add lens and off you go.
DamienG Videos!
* Full frame
* IBIS
* AF
* Weather sealing
* Battery life
* Tilt screen/viewfinder
* Lowlight performance
* Takes photos
Your content is always so good.
Thank you very much! 😃👊
Weather sealing is a big plus !
If the S1H had Sony autofocus I would die of happiness..
well, I went ahead and bought the S1H. I'm loving everything about it except the autofocus which I have to say is so unreliable (for video) that it is literally unusable. So using this camera and focusing manually is an interesting challenge but I'm actually enjoying the experience. The tool provided, peaking and magnification, are quite good and, what the heck, I'm getting better at being a camera operator as a result. Everything else - from the beautiful imagery to the easy to grade vlog, and the codecs, resolution, blah blah blah - are really terrific. I'd still rather use my Sony a73 for run and gun work - but for controlled purposeful shooting, this thing is hard to beat. Thanks for your input on this camera and a whole bunch of great video content.
Thinking about selling the a7iii for that S1H. Any thoughts?
@@makestuffmike well I eventually sold the S1h and bought the Sony a7S3. And now I’m much happier. For the type of video I do, the auto focus is critical. And the 6k is not. The Panny was also so big and heavy and at the time had a very limited lens selection which is only now improving thanks to Sigma but still can’t compare to e-mount lens selection. So the Sony a7s3 is ultimately more versatile and with the s-cinetone color profile delivering really beautiful images. The S1h is still spectacular but just not optimal for most of what I need.
Thanks for covering some of the workflow issues that may come up.
But what about that auto-focus though. You know we all want to know if we will get decent autofocus for 4k dollars.
Another insightful video! Quick look comparison 6k vs bmcc6k? Very different tools just wondering:) also have you used “beam me up Scotty” intro?
Haha. No Star Trek ones yet. 🤣
Thanks for the suggestion!
Even though I'm a moron, and I'm not authorized to do this, I hereby award you with an honorary membership in Mensa.
This comment made me laugh. Thanks
I think its a lot easier to find a pc you can edit 4k and 6k on, just that most people are looking in the wrong place. For a start think about building a pc and probably go with AMD Ryzen instead of Intel, you can get dirt cheap 8 cores from last gen and the new 3000 series has some serious horse power at a much lower price than Intel. Also if you can find Vega 56 they also have very good productivity chops, but Nvidias latest graphics cards are very good in this regard too but overpriced compared to last gen
Nice one Gerald. There's only 2 things really holding the S1 back and that's the lack of shutter 'degrees' in which case you don't have a synchro scan option. This is catching me out with those shoots indoors at 60fps. Also, the low bitrates compared to the GH5 and S1H. If both of these issues were fixed via a firmware upgrade, then I wouldn't feel the need to sell the S1 and get the S1H. What do you think? It can be frustrating when you buy a camera and have the new 'way better' version coming out just a few months later.
Panasonic killed it with the S1h!............the next maybe S2h with phase auto focus and a little reduction in price would force the crippled canaon to bail out of the mirror less market! 😂👍🏾I am a recent Fuji guy but, I am also trying to figure out a way to buy the S1h myself!
You beast!! Great video!!
Gerald, how do you think this camera compares with the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 6K?
Eager to see a comparison with the S1H, BMPCC6K and SIGMA fp
@@fellowcitizen yes it will be interesting to see not to mention Nikon z6 will support prores raw by the end of this year I even heard rumors that fuji will release prores raw in future for medium format and apsc lineup. Interesting time for creators.
Out Shouvik Bandyopadhyay will have to send the Z for the raw upgrade for a charge. I guess it will be like the Sony NEX-FS700 upgrade and I am wondering if a version like Z6R will be coming out later with just the Z6 on body but hardware and firmware updated that way on the firmware info on the cameras. Is hard to diced to buy another Z6 or just hold on. But this Panasonic looks amazing too. Love the Z6 pair with the Ninja V
So, very helpful, but I still have a few questions unresolved--of the most rudimentary nature.
First, I'm still unclear on shooting 6k. On my editor it shows up in what seems to be a 3X4 box. Not sure how to edit it---and yes, sorry I hate reading manuals. So, how do you edit it?
Second, I note the Peaking issue on the S1 is "fixed" in the SH1. I think I've mentioned this before. When you use focus peaking to get your focus for a shot it's...well, fine. Not as good as the Fujifilm peaking, but MUCH better than the Sony. The problem comes when you press the start button. The peaking significantly reduces in visibility---the the point it's almost invisible----and all but impossible to use for tracking an object or subject or even doing an accurate focus pull.
For us fully manual video shooters it's really crippling.
Any insight on whether Panasonic will fix this---or is that Panasonic pulling a Canon on us and sneakily crippling the S1 to FORCE people to pony up the $$$ and buy the SH1?!?
Considering Jordan's review was just 2-3 days ago, man you produce your video really fast.
The DPReview dudes are awesome! Also, still a very informative video. I'll likely be sticking with the GH5 for now but one can dream.
Great Video as usual! Hope Panny can tweak their AF system so no hunting. Seems like a dream video camera otherwise. Waiting on Sony A7siii before making decision.
Wow I'm suddenly really interested in the S1H. Now I've got to upgrade my m43 glass!
Great info. As other reviewers said, I wish the S1H screen was on the other cameras. I'd like this camera for mostly stills and some high end video but the filter may affect the stills too much. Needs to be tested.
Gerald Hi
Great hyper-nerd overload. I may have to re-watch a gazillion times to soak it all in. Thanks.
I’m taking the plunge and moving from my long love affair with the 5D mk4 having upgraded though the series and going for the S1H!
I have and love my Zeiss Otus 55 and 28 + 15mm distagon. But I am starting to miss AF. Would I be mad to trade in my beloved lenses for the Panasonic S Pro series? Or should I simply buy the adaptor and stick with it?
I really want to get into resolve because of the better performance since it actually utilitieses every component on a computer but I want to learn after effects first...
Something to say here, that is not very well known: GPUs don't support h.264 in 10bit for hardware decoding. They only do so in 8bit. For h.265, the newer cards like yours, support h.265 in 8/10/12 bit hardware decoding. So h.264 in 10bit will always use the CPU, no matter if you're using Premiere or Resolve. But for Premiere not offloading h.265 to the GPU is indeed a rather major offence.
Thanks for that note. Cheers!
Correct! The 5.7K 10Bit 30p sample file is smooth with a RTX 2060 super, 4 cores 6700K in DaVinci Resolve 16.
Thank you for providing a clip!
I have to say that i found that one really difficult to grade and could not get the image to look what i wanted it to.
If that is in all enviroments this camera would be a pass.
Do you maybe have another outdoor shot we could try out?
Thank you!
So intrigued but same lens selection problem right now that talked me off the ledge from buying the S1 this summer..
Unique insights as always :) I'm particularly curious about the OLPF and how much it gets rid of the moire of the S1 (which is pretty bad in video). On the timecode in front though it appears from others that it's still the sync once and then run internally, instead of continuous sync like the Blackmagic etc. A bit disappointing. The RAW output is potentially interesting but the devil will be in the details for that one on both the output res and bit depth front, as well as exactly how Atomos will handle it (ProRes RAW isn't available in any NLE except FCPX as far as I'm aware). Keep up the good work!
Thanks, Paul! Yeah, I'm pretty curious about those raw details myself. Hopefully we'll find out more soon.
Loved it!
One question: can the camera record straight to an SSD via USB C?
Not at this moment (something only the BMPCC4K/6K and Sigma fp are promising at this moment) I hope this functionality can be implemented in the future (if it is possible through the hardware, would eliminate the need for an external monitor then)
@@ashok.vardhan.g Yes, given that they share lenses, it should be interesting to see whether the Sigma fp will complement the S1H, or overlap too much - one of the few things we know is that it will record to SSD. (Actually... they could all potentially be used in the same stable with EF lenses, Resolve and the MC-21)
One more nerdy thing: the colour matrix has been aligned as closely as possible to the EVA-series (as well as having a matching interface.)
via Zacuto's interview: ruclips.net/video/jzosK0LJBLk/видео.html
Great video Gerald! I love how in depth you go. It looks like an amazing camera and I would definitely use it for larger commercial productions that require RAW and 6k capabilities in a small form factor. However, I'm not going to purchase the S1H anytime soon. It's not worth the extra $1500 for me because I already have the S1 and GH5s and I wouldn't even use the additional features. I actually prefer to use the 150mbps 10bit files on the GH5s and S1 to save memory space on my relatively low budget projects. I mostly shoot corporate video and weddings and it is for the most part viewed on phones. I deliver everything in 1080p, so 6k is way overkill. Thanks for everything you do! You are one of my favorite channels on RUclips.
Thanks for providing different info from other channels.
Not on my wishlist. I’m not up to it... too good for my skills
You are amazing Gerald. Love your videos. Maybe, do a video on video editing with the new AMD Ryzen cpus instead of that intel 8700? I’ll buy your shirts if you do🥴
Thanks for the download of the source clip.
Video quality seems to be pretty much the same with the S1 which is great but horrible at the same time.
The blue and yellow clipping is still there and unless people keep reporting this issue Panasonic may not fix it. :(
Download the clip and look at the woman's hair in the last second...
The other clips by Wex or BHPhoto also show the same issues.
My pleasure. How far back do you think this goes? I was working with someone's old footage, I think it was a GH4 and it had some blue issues as well.
@@geraldundone never had this on my GH4 nor GH5 using V-LOG. Have never seen it on Varicam nor Eva-1 footage either. All these cameras seem to have a proper rolloff to oversaturated blues and yellows.
Both the S1 and S1H are the first V-Log capable Panasonic cameras ever to show this issue- at least in V-Log :(
Why would somebody dislike this?!
Good job!
Yes I am intrigued by this camera.
No it is not on my wish list at this time because of price and lenses available.
If I get better at video, and make more $$ doing video, then I will consider upgrading to it.
Who uses Premiere Pro anyway? DaVinci Resolve is the way always to go!
great content as usual gerald. The camera is fantastic but there are 2 major issues from my point of view: autofocus and lens mount. Still waiting for the perfect camera.
Please elaborate on how is "lens mount" an issue?
Ashok Vardhan it’s L mount which means lens selection is very limited and pricey
It's nt on my list to buy but so far it's gonna be a beast of a rig!
@3:10 Seems that it doesn't handle that blue highlights too well in the background? I noticed the same thing in the video B&H put together where they did a low light bar scene with blue lights
I am seriously thinking of buying this camera. But I have a Sigma FP and I want to know if the autofocus and sensor are worth the cost of getting another one. In other words, while this camera looks fantastic and lets me keep and use all my L mount lenses, will I get better photos and videos with it? Or is the sensor and autofocus about the same please? Deeply grateful for any answer you care to give.
Did they fix the issue with the autofocus?
While other youtubers read off spec sheets and regurgitates the same ol' info, Gerald get Un-DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Awesome video, Gerald! However, I don't know if its just my browser, but I'm not able to download the 6K footage from your link. It's just showing me that "No video supported with format and MIME type found."
Sir Gerald... Hi. Question. Do you know if using the Sigma 18-35 & 50-100 would be a good idea for this camera (obviously using the MC-21 alongside of it)? Is it possible to use a crop mode with the camera in 6k or 5.9k with APS-C lenses? Let me know you can help! Thanks!
Why are you not using QuickSync with Premiere when you have an 8700K? It also helps in timeline performance. Just enable iGPU in BIOS...
EDIT: iGPU isn't used with the 6K file, still you should enable iGPU in BIOS.
TechReflex because it doesn’t do shit.
I was looking for some information on the editing requirements for 6k video (considering an upgrade from my 4k camera) and came across your video. During my research I came across this article (see below link) that may be of interest to anyone editing on Macs. For anyone with a Mac Mini, there's also a tip about cooling on the Mac Mini that prevents throttling due to overheating: it's a free app that allows you to run the fan at about 4k revs, rather than the quieter (ie lower speed) fan settings the Mac Mini runs at by default. It's noisier, but will unlock better performance.
It's an article by Mysterybox.us, who teamed up with Panasonic for the S1H launch to create the Keplar 138 video for them. This article is from late 2018, and has interesting info about the Mac Mini from 2018 which has "built in HEVC encoding hardware acceleration" (see the full quote under the article link below) and it goes into the specification of Mac Mini that they had chosen for their 4k editing workflow alongside the more powerful MacPros they use for 8k work. From what I understand, and from what you say in your video here, the same spec would probably be sufficient for 6k editing in Final Cut Pro X (their editing software of choice) and Davinci Resolve. They specify 3 configurations with the Mac Mini, and compare performance with a 5k iMac.
Unfortunately, they don't have any blog posts about 6k workflow specifically... and of course there is now a new M1 Mac Mini... but I post this here in case it's of interest for anyone evaluating their current system's likely suitability for 6k workflow. For reference, their recommended 2018 Mac Mini spec with eGPU is:
Intel Core i7 3.2GHz (4.2 boost clock)
64GB 2667GHz DDR4
1TB SSD
Sonnet Breakaway Box 650
Radeon Vega Frontier Edition 16GB
LG Ultrawide 34 (3440 x 1440)
MacOS 10.14.2
FCPX 10.4.4
www.mysterybox.us/blog/2019/1/22/2018-mac-mini-editors-workstation
"The Coffee Lake chipset has built-in HEVC encoding hardware acceleration, and the T2 chip, while designed for security encoding functions, was also reported to handle HEVC loads. Any other codec at 4K and this high a bit rate would be impossible to edit on this machine without an eGPU, but the chipset takes much of the load off the built-in Intel 630."
Looks like a camera that's too specialized for me. I love video, and would love some 4k 60fps 10bit, and 1080p 180fps. But that weight, dimensions, and cost are way too much for me. Ignoring the lack of good AF given I'm still using an a7s MK1, haha.
Could you also make a nerdier video about the new Sony A6600, by like comparing it to the Sony A6500? Like testing out if it actually can focus and meter one EV lower than the A6500 like Sony claims, I haven't found any of the reviewers talking about that.
The S1H is a definitely a game changer for professional video production. The camera is really a full-blown 6K cinema camera in a mirrorless body that exceeds the capabilities of anything else in it’s class. For video, television, and film production I can confidently say it offers more bang for the buck of any video camera ever made. Here’s a link to my review of the camera and a trailer for a the 4-hour S1H master class I have produced that can help new owners get the best results with their camera. ruclips.net/video/GhZP14WVCn0/видео.html
*stares at collection of 8 m43 lenses and G9*
... damnit.
I'll have it if it's going cheap :D
Funny thing is I initially got into m43 (starting with the g85) to keep everything compact and lightweight, but I still wasn't taking my gear with me on weight-conscious adventures. So I bought an LX10, and it's *breathtakingly* good. Its low light performance is only marginally worse (at 24mm equiv) than my G9 16mm f/1.4. Now I take my LX10 everywhere, and only use my G9 specifically for photography trips.
So, what's the point keeping it lightweight? An LX10 + S1H would be a solid combination.
Picking it up once raw is available
just buy a Blackmagic pocket 6k?
@@gfilm6870 I need photo too
Hey Gerald Nikon (for z6,z7)and Panasonic (for s1h) will release prores raw update by the end of this year .Do you think if we can edit prores raw in Windows if not now in future maybe? Do you think Davinci resolve/premiere pro will support prores raw? Currently only finalcut supports prores raw from what I know.
Super helpful. Going to see if I can explode my mbp with the 6k footage
Nice video Gerald!
I'm really struggling to get real time playback with he s1h 5.9k footage.
Ive got the same cpu as you overclocked and an rtx 2080 as well as 32gb ram.
Resolve studio is on 17.1 and all the latest drivers are installed. yet playing back the 5.9k footage is extremely choppy and uneditable. The fps indicator shows around 11fps and sometimes it shows a green indicator that says 24fps but it's still showing choppy/frozen footage.
Also, my task manager shows the cpu as doing 50-70% whilst my GPU only does 7-15%! the gpu's enabled in resolve and everything!
Really not sure what to do, I spec'd out my PC and its having trouble playing back the h.265 codec whereas yours is playing smoothly. Could really use some help!
Hi Gerald, what about enabling your onboard GPU? I know hardware encoding is not advisable for delivery, but I thought Premiere Pro 2019 made use of the intel GPU's Quicksync/decoding for timeline playback?
Gerald! Did you get to play with the upcoming LUMIX S 24-70mm 2.8 Pro?
I did, yeah, for a little while. Solid lens. Pretty standard for the most part. Reminds me of every other quality 24-70, but the focus clutch is a nice touch. Wish it had hard stops though.
Hi Gerald,
Have you seen this?
Exactly,...so for the blue channel clipping, yes we have seen this for decades on many camera models. Some camera's are more resistant that others. However, with the S1 and S1H, we are seeing these cameras having an EXTREME sensitivity to blue lights. More than any camera I have ever seen.
Oddly enough, the same blue light test scene is 100% FINE when switching to HLG. And, going further, the exact same blue light does NOT hurt the GH5 VLog-L or HLG.
Even B&H's S1H promo sales video is riddled with severe blu channel clipping. That was a terrible way to highlight the S1H. Those guys spread blu light all over their shots! If I was Panasonic, I would BEG B&H to take their promo video down!
I "think" Panny can fix this, but of they can't, people MUST know that if you have blue light in your shot, like a stage show or wedding reception...DO NOT USE VLOG....you need to switch to HLG. Once that blu channel gets smashed, it cannot be repaired in post.
We need to raise public awareness about this. If you are doing a paid project, VLog could totally ruin you footage before you are able to switch to HLG.
BE CAREFUL NOT TO GET BURNED BY VLOG!
m.ruclips.net/video/1hFBnAGahFM/видео.html
What do you think about it?
Thanks.
Is ACES a good subject for your channel?