Last week, I gave up my 2008 V50 which I had spend enjoyable time with for 4 years, and bought 2005 XC70 2.5T! At the end of the day, this V70(XC70 also) is a design masterpiece. I'm quite happy with my decision. Thank you for nice, clear and lovely review! (from Japan)
Just a few points i make are that my 2001 v70t does not have a 5 speed automatic box it is a 4 speed box with overdrive whereas you say u have 5 speed box, also when you put the front overhead interior lights on you first put the drivers side on & then passengers side on & then off & next you put both front interior lights on & you wondered why the need?? Well the reason is the first 2 lights you put on are what they call map reading lights & are only direct spot lights which do not throw light sideways, the third switch you turned on was the front wide angled cabin light which would throw light into drivers vision !!! Very simple safety lighting system, as for speed they are limited to 155mph & reach that quite quickly for a 2 ton car 👍👍
Great to hear! I'm really impressed with it's comfort so far, just working through some issues it has. If you haven't check out the 2 other videos I did about it (1 just dropped this morning)
Unfortunately, the auto manufactures don't offer station wagons in the United States because of the popularity of SUVs/crossovers. The advantage a stationw wagon like this Volva has, is that it gets better gas mileage than an SUV. Honda and Toyota offer station wagon versions of their sedans in European and Asian countries such as a wagon version of the Toyota Corolla, but unfortunately not in the USA. Maybe the auto manufacturers are afraid station wagons won't sell well in the USA making them less profit then SUV/crossovers
I don't believe the manufacturers 'forced' people into SUVs - consider Buick offered a wagon in the Regal not long ago, and they just didn't sell. People want SUVs... Many years ago I heard a quote that went something like this. "Wagos/Minivans are Life Choice vehicles, but SUVs are LifeSTYLE vehicles". People want the high seating and 'rugged' look for an SUV, even if it's really just a tall-car.
@@AllCarswithJon Minivans and wagons also have the added burden of having garnered a reputation for being "uncool" , since their practicality meant they got used for a myriad of mundane but highly visible roles. I wonder if the full-size SUV will eventually experience a similar reputational hangover.
@@LN997-i8x Good thoughts. I did a video several weeks back where the data shows exactly what you're saying, but on a very very small scale. SUVs are dominant, but there's a tiny uptick in sedan sales - and at least part of that is younger people not wanting to drive the uncool things their parents or grandparents drove!
I grew up w a 1989 760gle, which I later took over in hs/college and later passed it one to my cousin. My mom later leased a 2008 s80 T6. Back then, for the lease price, the Volvo was an amazing value. we loved the ride, performance and that it was understated. But it had random electrical glitches - nothing bad, just not very reassuring for a brand new car. However, current gen Volvos have gotten much more expensive with brittle ride and unrefined 4 cyl engines.
Nice! Looks like you added a nice car to your fleet! It's aged well, doesn't look like a 20 year old car, the only things that give it away are the older lift-up door handles, older head unit with cassette (not even CD) and no bluetooth, navigation, satellite radio, back up camera though you could add a nice aftermarket unit to compensate for that. I've always wanted a Volvo wagon, maybe one day I'll get one, until then, I live vicariously through other people's Volvo videos!
I'll tell you this my friend, this car has blown me away. It feels so much like a buttoned-down Buick - and I mean that in the best possible way. The steering is light, and the suspension varies between (oh! I felt that!) to soft..... but, it's supremely comfortable. Sure, parts of it are out of date, but it's been great so far. Heck, my 19 year old son yesterday was like "these seats are SO comfortable!" :)
@@AllCarswithJon Picked mine up yesterday. 2002 P2 V70. Same cream leather seats as yours (just a bit more worn than yours) and it literally feels like driving in an armchair 😅😂
I had a T5 2001 for six years. Nice to drive, and as mentioned good seats and quality overall. But...electronics can be a pain with this model. The most expencive for me was ABScontrol and Tracktion. The aut. transmision (not the type you have) had its own life. Where I live (Denmark) rust is a normal problem, but this model has few trouble even after 15 years. Hope you get a better experience with a Volvo.
Interesting that you are seeing more vintage wagons at car shows and classic car auctions.. they also seem to be increasing in value in nice condition like your Volvo...
Station wagons seem to slowly be gaining traction again in the US. I think the youth got tired of the obnoxiously large SUV’s and trucks their parents got suckered into. Hopefully one day we’ll get wagon versions of the bulletproof sedans like the accord and the Camry again.
Great review Jon! I was told by a motorhead that the 2002 XC70 didn't have any fatalities in 02 and Ford had an ad. Is their a way you can find this ad?
Great video, and great to see that people over there in the US are finally realizing just how good these wagons are . Here in Sweden and in Europe overall - wagons are absolutely everywhere. But even here there's a trend of people moving towards SUV:s instead, oftentimes SUV:s that are actually less practical than a wagon like this. I own the last model year V70 Classic 2.4 without the turbo. The "Classic" trim was available in Sweden for the 2007 and 2008 model year, and they were a little special. You got grey V70R gauges and nice metal trim in the interior. And all of the black plastic you see on your car is body painted instead. It has gone 150,000km so far and still feels fresh and tight. Oh and mine is a 5-speed manual. As far as I know, there are only two downsides to this model. 1. They are quite thirsty compared to other european wagons. 2. Suspension bushings and what not are softer and will dry out and crack with time, easy to fix though. Other than these two things, I have yet to find anything major with this wagon.
Thanks for the comment. My son drives it and it's been a good car (and it's exciting to see a 19 year old exciting about a station wagon!) It is a bit thirsty, more than we expected, but not bad. We still need to invest in a timing belt and water pump change, and I want to flush the power steering fluid, but so far the only problem he's had has been a tire getting a screw in it and blowing out. Oh, and one of the headlight wipers stopped wiping. :)
My mom has had an 07 XC70 awd since 2010, she drove it into the ground and bought another 07 because she preferred the body shape and the engine, they are great.
You will get much better results from the transmission by doing a fluid drain & fill every 25k miles...and here is the important part. You must use specified JWS 3309 fluid. Toyota T-IV fluid will work perfectly and is usually available at the lowest cost. Do not use multi vehicle or other fluids even if they say JWS 3309 "compatible". These transmissions are very fluid sensitive.
@@stevemccooleq Agreed, generally. Mobil makes a JWS 3309 spec product that I use. My 2002 V70 has a 112k miles. Unfortunately, the solenoids got gunked up in the first 60k miles under the quote (warranty) factory service schedule, no AT service during that time. Since then, I have been A+ on fluid changes, 30% drain/fills at 75k miles and full fluid exchanges at 60 and 90k. My ATF stays virginally red and I'm sure the unit is fundamentally healthy but I'm still going to need those new solenoids to ever have smooth shifting.
@@reallyhappenings5597 Yes, the Mobil 3309 and Toyota T-IV are identical from what I understand. It is just a question of which one you can get the best price. As you probably are aware there is a cottage industry on Ebay of AW50-55 valve body rebuilders (with new solenoids), prices seem to range between $150 to $250. R&R of the valve body is not simple but can be done by a DIYer or a shop would probably hit you with about 6 hrs labor (give or take). So not super cheap but can be done for way less than a $4000 transmission rebuild. Good luck.
I have almost the same car (not the turbo) in the same colour (here in UK). Have owned it from new. Now on 180k miles. I have also owned the same Volvo 850 for the last 30 years.
Still owning it? Would buy, but am in Germany :-) We only run those on the 5 cylinder Diesel Engine. 200hp and Turbo. This is the European spec; gasoline is more or less only the T5. The XC70 also has the 2.4T --- anyways, love the review, thank you!
Dear Jon, nice Review. I got the same model with the same motor and absolutely love it. I dont know if this is relevant but you mentioned the lacking bluetooth. I got a bluetooth Adapter for about 30 euros. It is a little plug which goes on the backside of the Radio unit where normally the CD changer went in back in the day. It works perfectly and is invisible. Even the back and forward Buttons are working. Hope this helps.
I love these. I stopped the other day and took a picture of one on a walk because it was a manual transmission. I tried telling my wife it was a unicorn! I like how you get out of the car before saying "come in with me". Neat touch.
You may regret buying this "network " p2 ford/volvo. I own 2 volvo v70xc, and an older 850. The 02 doesn't even compare to my 98 xc as far as reliability. My 02 v70xc has 247k milage. So far it has needed a complete transmission rebuild (which is common with the 02s), 4 out of 5 modules replaced. Electrical gremlins abound. Once it was running it was enjoyable. But be ready for Electrical failures. Many will present themselves as the milage builds. I had to invest in a code reader, VIDA and DICE system to save on repairs it got that bad. The wires in the rear side window is the antenna (there is also a antenna booster in the right rear compartment). I can almost bet that plug in the back is for a battery minder the 02 drains battery badly. I would check to see if your airbag is subject to a recall. Cheers
The early generation P2 cars aren't as good as the 2005+ Models, which solved a lot of the issues. There's a reason you see very few early AWD P2's, for example.
Well, that has not been my experience. I've owned a 2002 V70 from new (180k miles on the clock now). It is a manual though - so no transmission problems to be had. The only electrical problems for me - the DIM (driver information module), which I have repaired, and the original ETM (electronic throttle module), which I have replaced.
Great review. However, I do believe that the 2.4T is a naturally aspirated, non-turbo engine. The 2.5T is a light-pressure turbo. The seats are of an anti-submarine design, to keep the driver sitting upright and alert.
We do still have it but no, we don't want to sell it. My son uses it as his daily driver right now and will for years (I hope). If I sold it, I know I couldn't get anything else I could afford!
@@AllCarswithJon agreed. Looking for a clean low mileage one of these that I can drive for the next 10 years then pass it down to my daughter lol. I also live in NC. That’s why I asked. Beautiful car
@@alexminichello9804 Thanks, best of luck. It's been a solid car so far. Unfortunately my son needs a car and that's the option. :) If anything changes I'll let you know, but good luck in your search!
Last week, I gave up my 2008 V50 which I had spend enjoyable time with for 4 years, and bought 2005 XC70 2.5T! At the end of the day, this V70(XC70 also) is a design masterpiece. I'm quite happy with my decision. Thank you for nice, clear and lovely review! (from Japan)
Thanks so much for the comment! Good wishes from the US!
How about maintenance and parts? It’s difficult to get and expensive to fix in japan? Or you have special car pit for volvo owners?
Just a few points i make are that my 2001 v70t does not have a 5 speed automatic box it is a 4 speed box with overdrive whereas you say u have 5 speed box, also when you put the front overhead interior lights on you first put the drivers side on & then passengers side on & then off & next you put both front interior lights on & you wondered why the need?? Well the reason is the first 2 lights you put on are what they call map reading lights & are only direct spot lights which do not throw light sideways, the third switch you turned on was the front wide angled cabin light which would throw light into drivers vision !!! Very simple safety lighting system, as for speed they are limited to 155mph & reach that quite quickly for a 2 ton car 👍👍
Very nice Review! I just bought one :D
I was very impressed about the comfort of seats, the space in the car and how smooth it drives.
Great to hear! I'm really impressed with it's comfort so far, just working through some issues it has. If you haven't check out the 2 other videos I did about it (1 just dropped this morning)
Unfortunately, the auto manufactures don't offer station wagons in the United States because of the popularity of SUVs/crossovers. The advantage a stationw wagon like this Volva has, is that it gets better gas mileage than an SUV. Honda and Toyota offer station wagon versions of their sedans in European and Asian countries such as a wagon version of the Toyota Corolla, but unfortunately not in the USA. Maybe the auto manufacturers are afraid station wagons won't sell well in the USA making them less profit then SUV/crossovers
I don't believe the manufacturers 'forced' people into SUVs - consider Buick offered a wagon in the Regal not long ago, and they just didn't sell. People want SUVs...
Many years ago I heard a quote that went something like this. "Wagos/Minivans are Life Choice vehicles, but SUVs are LifeSTYLE vehicles".
People want the high seating and 'rugged' look for an SUV, even if it's really just a tall-car.
@@AllCarswithJon Minivans and wagons also have the added burden of having garnered a reputation for being "uncool" , since their practicality meant they got used for a myriad of mundane but highly visible roles. I wonder if the full-size SUV will eventually experience a similar reputational hangover.
@@LN997-i8x Good thoughts. I did a video several weeks back where the data shows exactly what you're saying, but on a very very small scale. SUVs are dominant, but there's a tiny uptick in sedan sales - and at least part of that is younger people not wanting to drive the uncool things their parents or grandparents drove!
Excellent review from a true gentleman coverig all the key points, even legroom and comfort. I’m impressed.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I grew up w a 1989 760gle, which I later took over in hs/college and later passed it one to my cousin. My mom later leased a 2008 s80 T6. Back then, for the lease price, the Volvo was an amazing value. we loved the ride, performance and that it was understated. But it had random electrical glitches - nothing bad, just not very reassuring for a brand new car. However, current gen Volvos have gotten much more expensive with brittle ride and unrefined 4 cyl engines.
Nice! Looks like you added a nice car to your fleet! It's aged well, doesn't look like a 20 year old car, the only things that give it away are the older lift-up door handles, older head unit with cassette (not even CD) and no bluetooth, navigation, satellite radio, back up camera though you could add a nice aftermarket unit to compensate for that. I've always wanted a Volvo wagon, maybe one day I'll get one, until then, I live vicariously through other people's Volvo videos!
I'll tell you this my friend, this car has blown me away. It feels so much like a buttoned-down Buick - and I mean that in the best possible way.
The steering is light, and the suspension varies between (oh! I felt that!) to soft..... but, it's supremely comfortable. Sure, parts of it are out of date, but it's been great so far.
Heck, my 19 year old son yesterday was like "these seats are SO comfortable!" :)
Good luck! Picked up my V70 yesterday after doing the same as you. Loving the V70 life so far! 😊
@@AllCarswithJon Picked mine up yesterday. 2002 P2 V70. Same cream leather seats as yours (just a bit more worn than yours) and it literally feels like driving in an armchair 😅😂
@@Charlienator3000 just sit in it and say ... "ahhhhh"
I had a T5 2001 for six years. Nice to drive, and as mentioned good seats and quality overall. But...electronics can be a pain with this model. The most expencive for me was ABScontrol and Tracktion. The aut. transmision (not the type you have) had its own life. Where I live (Denmark) rust is a normal problem, but this model has few trouble even after 15 years. Hope you get a better experience with a Volvo.
I've done a couple of videos about the car. It's been okay so far, but little issues have me questioning how many more years it actually has.
❤❤it is a VOLVO❤❤
DER IS NO MORE TO SAY❤️❤️🥰💋
I drive 46 years only Volvo
“It never rolls around”
Me with an xc70: lol
Get the IPD swaybars & bushings
Interesting that you are seeing more vintage wagons at car shows and classic car auctions.. they also seem to be increasing in value in nice condition like your Volvo...
Interesting!
I'm glad people are giving vintage wagons some love these days. This seems like like a car I would really enjoy too.
Station wagons seem to slowly be gaining traction again in the US. I think the youth got tired of the obnoxiously large SUV’s and trucks their parents got suckered into. Hopefully one day we’ll get wagon versions of the bulletproof sedans like the accord and the Camry again.
Great review Jon! I was told by a motorhead that the 2002 XC70 didn't have any fatalities in 02 and Ford had an ad. Is their a way you can find this ad?
I hadn't heard that and you've got me interested... I'll see if I can find it.
@AllCarswithJon Great look forward what you kind find, my friend was amazed when he saw the ad.
That V70n look about 1 1/2" to high in the rear suspension. That may make the car to feel a little odd on the road.
IMHO, V70 should be only released as a XC70. Them thick, unpainted plastics! Damn!
get rid of the normal intake, for just a cone and you can hear it really go.
That's an in-glass antenna printed on the side window..
Great video, and great to see that people over there in the US are finally realizing just how good these wagons are . Here in Sweden and in Europe overall - wagons are absolutely everywhere. But even here there's a trend of people moving towards SUV:s instead, oftentimes SUV:s that are actually less practical than a wagon like this. I own the last model year V70 Classic 2.4 without the turbo. The "Classic" trim was available in Sweden for the 2007 and 2008 model year, and they were a little special. You got grey V70R gauges and nice metal trim in the interior. And all of the black plastic you see on your car is body painted instead. It has gone 150,000km so far and still feels fresh and tight. Oh and mine is a 5-speed manual. As far as I know, there are only two downsides to this model.
1. They are quite thirsty compared to other european wagons.
2. Suspension bushings and what not are softer and will dry out and crack with time, easy to fix though.
Other than these two things, I have yet to find anything major with this wagon.
Thanks for the comment. My son drives it and it's been a good car (and it's exciting to see a 19 year old exciting about a station wagon!) It is a bit thirsty, more than we expected, but not bad. We still need to invest in a timing belt and water pump change, and I want to flush the power steering fluid, but so far the only problem he's had has been a tire getting a screw in it and blowing out.
Oh, and one of the headlight wipers stopped wiping. :)
My mom has had an 07 XC70 awd since 2010, she drove it into the ground and bought another 07 because she preferred the body shape and the engine, they are great.
"Transmission shifts well..." for now. Pre-facelift AW55-50SN's on the P2 need solenoids eventually, although they'll last long with fluids
You will get much better results from the transmission by doing a fluid drain & fill every 25k miles...and here is the important part. You must use specified JWS 3309 fluid. Toyota T-IV fluid will work perfectly and is usually available at the lowest cost. Do not use multi vehicle or other fluids even if they say JWS 3309 "compatible". These transmissions are very fluid sensitive.
@@stevemccooleq Agreed, generally. Mobil makes a JWS 3309 spec product that I use. My 2002 V70 has a 112k miles. Unfortunately, the solenoids got gunked up in the first 60k miles under the quote (warranty) factory service schedule, no AT service during that time. Since then, I have been A+ on fluid changes, 30% drain/fills at 75k miles and full fluid exchanges at 60 and 90k. My ATF stays virginally red and I'm sure the unit is fundamentally healthy but I'm still going to need those new solenoids to ever have smooth shifting.
@@reallyhappenings5597 Yes, the Mobil 3309 and Toyota T-IV are identical from what I understand. It is just a question of which one you can get the best price.
As you probably are aware there is a cottage industry on Ebay of AW50-55 valve body rebuilders (with new solenoids), prices seem to range between $150 to $250. R&R of the valve body is not simple but can be done by a DIYer or a shop would probably hit you with about 6 hrs labor (give or take). So not super cheap but can be done for way less than a $4000 transmission rebuild. Good luck.
@1:47 Those gadgets can be retrofitted if you don't care about.
Americans say coupe, we British say coupée, the French way
3400 lbs, a bit more on the XC70. Nowhere near 4700.
That little cubby would have been a pop out cup holder 😅
I have almost the same car (not the turbo) in the same colour (here in UK). Have owned it from new. Now on 180k miles. I have also owned the same Volvo 850 for the last 30 years.
Still owning it? Would buy, but am in Germany :-) We only run those on the 5 cylinder Diesel Engine. 200hp and Turbo. This is the European spec; gasoline is more or less only the T5. The XC70 also has the 2.4T --- anyways, love the review, thank you!
You're welcome! Thanks for the visit and comment!
And it's likely to be on sale in the very near future. Shame you're in Germany. :)
Dear Jon, nice Review. I got the same model with the same motor and absolutely love it. I dont know if this is relevant but you mentioned the lacking bluetooth. I got a bluetooth Adapter for about 30 euros. It is a little plug which goes on the backside of the Radio unit where normally the CD changer went in back in the day. It works perfectly and is invisible. Even the back and forward Buttons are working. Hope this helps.
Good to know! Thanks, I'll let my son know. (he drives it on a daily basis)
I love these. I stopped the other day and took a picture of one on a walk because it was a manual transmission. I tried telling my wife it was a unicorn! I like how you get out of the car before saying "come in with me". Neat touch.
Thanks!
You may regret buying this "network " p2 ford/volvo. I own 2 volvo v70xc, and an older 850. The 02 doesn't even compare to my 98 xc as far as reliability. My 02 v70xc has 247k milage. So far it has needed a complete transmission rebuild (which is common with the 02s), 4 out of 5 modules replaced. Electrical gremlins abound. Once it was running it was enjoyable. But be ready for Electrical failures. Many will present themselves as the milage builds. I had to invest in a code reader, VIDA and DICE system to save on repairs it got that bad. The wires in the rear side window is the antenna (there is also a antenna booster in the right rear compartment). I can almost bet that plug in the back is for a battery minder the 02 drains battery badly. I would check to see if your airbag is subject to a recall. Cheers
The early generation P2 cars aren't as good as the 2005+ Models, which solved a lot of the issues. There's a reason you see very few early AWD P2's, for example.
Well, that has not been my experience. I've owned a 2002 V70 from new (180k miles on the clock now). It is a manual though - so no transmission problems to be had. The only electrical problems for me - the DIM (driver information module), which I have repaired, and the original ETM (electronic throttle module), which I have replaced.
Great review. However, I do believe that the 2.4T is a naturally aspirated, non-turbo engine. The 2.5T is a light-pressure turbo. The seats are of an anti-submarine design, to keep the driver sitting upright and alert.
The "T" literally means "Turbo".
Base engine (B5244S) had no badged designation and that's tge only NA variant these came with.
If it has 2,4 l engine with LPT it MUST have 200 hp (147 kW), not 170 hp.
A good rewiev. Thanks.
Thanks!
You wouldn’t happen to still have it and want to sell it would you lol
We do still have it but no, we don't want to sell it. My son uses it as his daily driver right now and will for years (I hope).
If I sold it, I know I couldn't get anything else I could afford!
@@AllCarswithJon agreed. Looking for a clean low mileage one of these that I can drive for the next 10 years then pass it down to my daughter lol. I also live in NC. That’s why I asked. Beautiful car
@@alexminichello9804 Thanks, best of luck. It's been a solid car so far. Unfortunately my son needs a car and that's the option. :)
If anything changes I'll let you know, but good luck in your search!
@@AllCarswithJon Did this fellow get the car eventually? 😁
Thank you for sharing this video.Is this 4×4
Are you one of the actors on better call saul movie?
Gus drove a P80 V70 Cross-Country, an earlier version of the V70XC and later XC70 found in the P2 platform, and Volvo's first "AWD" car.