Didn't realize this was hitting algorithm again. Here are the changes for Season 1 of OW2 (October 2022 Edit) Overhealth (Green): 100% -> 50% ult charge granted from damage dealt to it (That's a buff to Overhealth) Armor (Yellow): Now grants damage reduction property on the armored portion only instead of the entire HP bar (That's a NERF to armor) If you want a better experience than OW ranked, check out #EsportsTower and get a FREE 2 WEEK TRIAL CLUB MEMBERSHIP. Sign up: www.esportstower.com/KarQ
@@Chicken_Pro_76 console too, you just play with pc players so it puts you at a slight disadvantage when you scrim against pc players. But we do have other console players in the Overwatch program
@@wha7does7hefox99 It is 40% health but if you have sound barrier then it'll do 40% of your health with that barrier, so unless you wait till it's over you're really only getting rid of the barrier.
@@wha7does7hefox99 you'd get far more value if you just used it when the sound barrier isn't up coz otherwise they'll be fine as it'll just destroy the sound barrier
I remember back when Torb could throw armor packs and Symmetra could build a shield generator. My favorite thing to do was play one or the other (if someone else was playing one of them) and increase everyone's HP to absurd amounts. 350 HP Zenyatta was a beast to see on the battlefield
Thank you for mentioning the 45 hps that Zen can receive after 3 seconds of not taking damage. It means that Zen has less downtime when peeking corners to attempt a kill without the need for a heal from the other support; they both can spend more time helping their teammates and/or clicking on bad guys. I'm intrigued to see how this buffs him in a broader range of scenarios and how it can change the outcome of some encounters.
No, the 1 less tank really hurt zen since zen have 0 mobility or get off me tool, you really have to just outplay the shit out of divers and assassins or have ur teammates baby sit you
Overhealth not giving ult charge is a huge buff. Before, when deciding between shooting vs waiting for temp HP to decay, ult charge would at least make shooting worth it. now, unless you're confident on being able to burst through it, it's rarely worth it.
for real. half of ur hp taking 30% less damage, THEN an ability that gives a bit of overhealth, reduces all damage by 50% now in 2023, and cant be headshotted... shooting at her might as well be worse than shooting a sym wall
I’m very happy. This means that now when wrecking ball charges into all the enemies and uses the overhealth, he won’t be a way for all the enemies attacking him to just get free ult charge.
Great changes. Having a convoluted health system and not explaining it in-game makes things feel off and unintuitive compared to other FPS games. They need to keep it simple and transparent if they want to compete with the big boys.
@@gagemestro4089 There isn't an explanation in the current game. At least not one a regular player is exposed to. The whole system is obfuscated and it's the ONLY blizzard game where this happens. WoW tells you exactly what block rating is and does, in the tooltip. I'm really disappointed in the execution of OW2.
For those that want to try plotting on desmos and see on close up, just input these 3 lines: f\left(x ight)=0.7x g\left(x ight)=\left\{x\le10:0.5x,x>10:x-5 ight\} \frac{\left(f\left(x ight)-g\left(x ight) ight)}{g\left(x ight)}\cdot100 1st line - f(x) is OW2's damage to armour target (30% reduction). X axis represents original damage, Y axis represents damage on armoured targets 2nd line - g(x) is OW1 (half under 10, -5 over 10). X axis represents original damage, Y axis represents damage on armoured targets 3rd line - percentage change in damage going from OW1 to OW2. X axis represents original damage, Y axis represents % change in damage
Since Mercy doesn't have any other accelerating healing effect outside of the passive, it seems like her healing and sustain is weaker than all the other supports.
@@TheDangerNoodle That's what I mean. All the other supports have ways of dramatically accelerating that passive healing. Even though hers is a little faster than normal, everybody else can have much more burst self healing.
@@cfriesen222 the only character who can accelerate the passive healing without using cooldowns is Lucio and *technically* Zen because he has shield regen. And while Lucio’s is slightly stronger than Mercy’s (his additional seld healing doesnt require the 3s no damage buffer, and heals ~12hp/s last I checked) he can still only heal when on the healing boost Crossfade song, and any good Lucio knows that the speed boost is just as important to use, so he naturally gets less value from his self healing than he could.
KarQ, like always, this was an extremely helpful and informative video. I had no idea how armor worked in ow 1 and I would have had no idea how it worked in ow2 but for your video. so thank you for everything you do for the community! your job doesn't pay enough to fully compensate you for the service you provide to all of us. that being said, the "look at this graph" meme, delivered so seriously, was my favorite part of the video LUL that was so perfectly placed
My question is why doesn't the game tell you all this? Why did I have to look this up just to get basic information required to play the game at all. I had no idea why Sigma for example was regenerating health randomly, or why half of my health was orange as Reinhardt
I vaguely remember years ago in ow1 (like at release or during beta) there was a brief explanation for it. Don’t know why they would remove that. Maybe I’m just misremembering.
Funny how Brig is in the thumbnail, since armor was her thing but has been slowly but surely being removed from her kit and hero uniqueness. Now the only armor she has is in her healthbar , and when she is basically full. Her rally is trash as overhealth. It's a budget sound barrier, not good for attack nor defense.
i havent played ow2, but i hope it gives a lot of health, or they increase it, or revert back to armor even if it needs to be nerfed to be fair. especially how slow everyone says the ults charge. take forever to get her ult and then its useless would suck. (im not a brig main either)
I miss the old days. You know, the ones where KarQ was sponsored by Manscaped, and we got a sack full of ball puns? I mean, it was one after another. It was nuts.
as someone who's new to fast paced shooters (I used to play paladins, but eh) especially ow2 since it released free, your videos are so dang helpful! I know the importance of this stuff since ive played quite a few competitive shooters at high elos like CSGO, valorant, apex etc. so I do know the fact that I will need a lot of theoretical knowledge so I can build my gamesense, but I did not know exactly what to search for. but you'd consistent guides have been helping out so much! I'm grateful.
just an heads up that armor no longer mitigates 30% damage to your whole healthbar , instead it mitigates 30% damage only to the armor proportion to your health . so a Reinhardt Pin will kill Brigitte now.
This would honestly make alot of sense for characters like Bastion or Orisa. It could possibly even work for Junker Queen if she ever becomes a playable character? (Since she's the Queen of a town literally filled with junk/scraps xD)
@@xickyr1611 The only issue I’d see with that is that, from a lore perspective, even machines like bastion wouldn’t be pure armor because the idea is that as you damage them, they’re exterior/more protective layer is destroyed leaving core components that can’t be inherently armored more exposed. Having a full armor unit would imply even at the most internal structures of the unit, that those parts would still be completely armored as well, which just wouldn’t really make sense.
Damn I like how this is really the nitty gritty of what goes into making this thing different from the old one. The changes are noticed. Great breakdown too it was a superb job
the colors for armor & overhealth aren't particularly friendly for red-green colorblind folk that would otherwise not need to use a color setting. hopefully there's a way to tweak the colors for each of those things
as a person who is not color blind, i think the colors stand out and they make sense intuitively. overwatch has colorblind settings, and since there are more non-colorblind people than colorblind, it's only logical that the colorblind people are the ones who should have to adapt and use the settings
ok, it may be easyer to read now, but Armor makes absolutely no sense now. The whole point was that your armor reduces low damage values but any greater attack would be pirceing trough the armor. Now it's just health that has a too small number.
I' m glad they made it way more consistent now than it was in Overwatch 1 where I found it pretty complicated to understand. Thanks for the explaination/update video on that topic, very informative :)
@@aestheticsock8772 problem with that is every tiny hitbox heroes like widow , baby dva ,etc. are not taking as much damage cause the spread is too wide. So they are dodging death at point blank. The opposite happens to big hitbox heroes like tanks, torb, mei, bastion, etc. I get that his role is to kill tanks , but since there’s only 1 tank to eliminate, the last 4 heroes are mostly all tiny and if they are long range heroes , well good luck getting to them before they kill you.
Armour in ow1 is only hard to understand if you choose to explain in an unnecessarily complicated way. It reduces damage by half up to a reduction of 5 per hit. That's it.
Still weirdly convoluted for little to no reason, like why is armor only reducing damage over 10 by 5? Like that’s so little and kinda a dumb calc. Granted it’s not complicated it’s just weird
@@FireDarkNinja yeah fair. I like the new system, it feels more balanced, and it's simpler. I would speculate the old system was based on the philosophy that armour should be very good at mitigating chip damage while allowing burst damage remain as effective.
@@Rio-un5jl I mean sort of but no matter what armour will always reduce damage a significant amount especially futuristic special armor, like a 308. round to a Kevlar chest plate is gonna fucking hurt and maybe kill but it’s gonna be more than 5 damage.
@@FireDarkNinja i agree armour should always reduce damage, but whats lost on this system, and the entire point of armor in most games is that it protects you well vs non-AP weapons, but not that well vs AP weapons. Now everything is equally AP in the game. Its just glorified health now, thats more efficient at getting healed, no gameplay difference other than that.
Overload should get an overheal amount buff. Brig ult should provide an aoe damage resist (like 15%) so that it isn’t competing with sound barrier for overheal support ult
Hey karq I used to watch ur vids a lot and they used to be REALLY helpful and entertaining 2 years ago I just wanna say now that I’m back to overwatch I’m glad to see your still the same and looking healthy man! I can enjoy the coNtent I once did the same and it feels very nice. Glad to see you and also I’m glad to always be informed! Many thanks playa
I remember a few years ago, back when new heroes were still being released for OV1, and before Apex was released, coming up with an idea for a support hero. I didn't finish working out the numbers for their fire rate or damage, but they essentially had an energy-based assault rifle (think soldier and baptise's guns), which while having a lower damage, could be overclocked to fire faster, give shots to direct health (not armour or shields) a fire dot, and ignore armour's damage reduction as it just melts through it... but was weaker against shields (both shield health and deployed energy shields). However, after overclocking, it would need to cool down, taking twice as long as their normal reloads would. I also gave them an ultimate that deployed a little hovering drone that either: gave all teammates a temporary shield similar to Rally's armour, strengthened existing shields, or let all shields regen even while taking damage. (I couldn't decide on which it should be.) That's as far as I got. I originally thought of their rifle's energy shots to partially restore all shields similar to Ana's shots to health, but make it indiscriminate, restoring even your opponent's shields.... but that would enable a lot of trolling.....
What is the genuine point of this comment? This was made way before wrecking ball buff, so KarQ can't say Wrecking Ball because it'd be factually wrong. This is also why he added the "For now" line which is correct. Or are you trying to make KarQ aware of this, which is pointless seeing 3 days before your comment he already made a video about it.
OW 2 overhealth is a good improvement, but with orisas fortify with it looks op, +125 health and a damage reduction, I get she’s chunky but it’s like she is made out of titanium. AND SHE HAS ARMOR AHHhHHHH I get armor is less strong but still, + 40% dmg reduction rein also can’t kill brig with a charge, we needed a less powerful reinhardt!
Brig's Rally feels absolutely broken now that you dont have armor. It was great at initiating fights but now it just feels like it's only good for if your whole team needs some quick burst heals as you won't actually survive a push on Rally. They need to buff the Rally or change it completely. Of course, i'm sure Rally feels fine for people who are in groups but solo queueing is a mess.
Even in groups it’s weak. Heals slow, and if you’re pushing, you’re probably not gaining any over health. Just feels like a way, way worse Sound Barrier.
OW2 is really good but I think they did nothing for support. Ult takes forever to build, you have one tank and usually ball and doom gives zero f about teams unless they are low and crying. They need to do something for support roles. Oh and yeah the support queue is 1 min and others are 5. That explains why people don't want to play support now.
It's the first beta things can and will change throughout.the support passive is really good especially for brig as putting shield up and blocking damage actually causes the game to consider you out of combat which means the 15 hp per second passive heal will kick in. Supports still require tweaking I think they should all have some sort of escape at a minimum and they should revert the sleep dart cooldown
I get that they wanted to make it simpler and that rally is super good and the best support ult in ow 1…. But still making brig and torb now grant overshields is such a huge nerf to two characters who are already struggling in the upcoming meta of overwatch 2
@@zilliq In a brawl style game with Brigitte being the number one brawl-style hero next to Rein, it doesn't really help overall. You still get three tapped by anyone on the map.
@@GummyDinosaursify I'm hoping she has a better mobility option or at least some way Inspire helps her heal faster than usual supports. I loved her in Overwatch one but she was very situational and very risky.
Important to note that because of the damage reduction producing what is essentially a flat health boost, armor also technically heals faster because you're restore more overall health while healing armor. Its why orisa pockets feel so unkillable; most of her health is armor, so even a modest heal like a zen orb healing orisa's armor with fortify active jumps the heal rate from 30 hps all the way up to 78, over doubling it.
it's actually the correct way to pronounce her name ruclips.net/video/PFWnt2Ewjos/видео.html - video of Matilda Smedius (Brig herself) teaching Carolina Ravassa (Sombra, Raze and amazing woman overall) how to pronounce her name and the name of her character
Why are they the colors of the 4 attack-types in undertale? Am I the only ones noticing this? Health=normal white attacks Armour= orange move attacks Shields= blue dont-move attacks Overhealth= green healing “attacks”
I love these new changes, especially on characters i main like D.va and Mercy, they dont feel nearly as pathetic as in OW1, particularly D.va's cannons feeling like im pinching and throwing grains of sand at ppl like an angry Salt Bae. Now they actually hurt, AND she can take quite some punishment as a tank. Now that i know how these changes work and why im enjoying ow2 sooo much more, it makes me wonder how D.va would feel if her mech was half and half armor and shields, and baby D.va having normal health, as if it were a proper vehicle... Probably overpowered. >:3 But it would make sense, the tank with the most emphasis on survivability, the regenerating shields would really work with using thrusters as an escape vector
Didn't realize this was hitting algorithm again. Here are the changes for Season 1 of OW2 (October 2022 Edit)
Overhealth (Green): 100% -> 50% ult charge granted from damage dealt to it (That's a buff to Overhealth)
Armor (Yellow): Now grants damage reduction property on the armored portion only instead of the entire HP bar (That's a NERF to armor)
If you want a better experience than OW ranked, check out #EsportsTower and get a FREE 2 WEEK TRIAL CLUB MEMBERSHIP.
Sign up: www.esportstower.com/KarQ
Just Pc right?
Esport tower for kids right I'm 24 was really excited untill they said that
Give Torb more armor or give additional from E
@@Chicken_Pro_76 console too, you just play with pc players so it puts you at a slight disadvantage when you scrim against pc players. But we do have other console players in the Overwatch program
Do the natural Shields Grant Ult charge different from OverWatch one they didn't?
Also important to know: in OW1 you could hack temporary shields. In OW2 you can’t hack overhealth. So no use in EMP’ing sound barrier anymore
Doesn’t sombras ult now do 40% health damage now? That could still be at least somewhat useful against sound barrier
@@wha7does7hefox99 only sombra can deal 40% dmg so yes but not overall
@@wha7does7hefox99 Actual health and not total health.
@@wha7does7hefox99 It is 40% health but if you have sound barrier then it'll do 40% of your health with that barrier, so unless you wait till it's over you're really only getting rid of the barrier.
@@wha7does7hefox99 you'd get far more value if you just used it when the sound barrier isn't up coz otherwise they'll be fine as it'll just destroy the sound barrier
Best part about OW2 is being able to watch so many KarQ guides
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I remember back when Torb could throw armor packs and Symmetra could build a shield generator. My favorite thing to do was play one or the other (if someone else was playing one of them) and increase everyone's HP to absurd amounts. 350 HP Zenyatta was a beast to see on the battlefield
The armor and shield stacking was insane. Miss those times.
All-for-one comps with Sym were hilarious. 300 hp shield on each with 6 shield generator ults. I think it totaled at 450 hp per sym?
@@kaipakta817 75 shield per gen x 6 so yeah, +450 shield. That's the same health as dva has now (with the 200 base) AND it heals
I’ll never get to play that lol
Thank you for mentioning the 45 hps that Zen can receive after 3 seconds of not taking damage. It means that Zen has less downtime when peeking corners to attempt a kill without the need for a heal from the other support; they both can spend more time helping their teammates and/or clicking on bad guys. I'm intrigued to see how this buffs him in a broader range of scenarios and how it can change the outcome of some encounters.
I acaullty had no idea Zen's shield was even affected by the support passive so i thought he just got like no benfit from it.
No, the 1 less tank really hurt zen since zen have 0 mobility or get off me tool, you really have to just outplay the shit out of divers and assassins or have ur teammates baby sit you
@@railx2005 I didn't think of it like that but I guess it is a skill issue
@@railx2005 bro zenyatta players are cracked. i play doomfist and ive died to way more zenyattas than anas.
Remember guys, it's blizzard. We should not support these games anymore
Overhealth not giving ult charge is a huge buff. Before, when deciding between shooting vs waiting for temp HP to decay, ult charge would at least make shooting worth it. now, unless you're confident on being able to burst through it, it's rarely worth it.
Also you're not being punished for engaging a little more aggresively by consequentially feeding more ult charge. Though that seems minuscule
Until this video I didn't really realize how much of a difference that armour change makes. No wonder Orisa never seems to die
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for real. half of ur hp taking 30% less damage, THEN an ability that gives a bit of overhealth, reduces all damage by 50% now in 2023, and cant be headshotted... shooting at her might as well be worse than shooting a sym wall
Fortify and armor being damage reductions more than doubles the effectively healing Orisa recieves.
This is honestly exactly the video I needed because I got confused when playing the beta. Thank you!
Yeah, I got confused too. Y'know, when I played the beta... That I totally got...
Pls Blizzard I beg you
@@Cardiri I got it from watching KarQ on twitch for 4 hours. It's not that hard.
@@jaroslavpohoral1897 I play on console :(
@@Cardiri same
I’m very happy. This means that now when wrecking ball charges into all the enemies and uses the overhealth, he won’t be a way for all the enemies attacking him to just get free ult charge.
Great changes. Having a convoluted health system and not explaining it in-game makes things feel off and unintuitive compared to other FPS games. They need to keep it simple and transparent if they want to compete with the big boys.
Funny enough, the changes make the health system more easy to understand, lmao. Did you not see OW 1?
@@idk-ye7ur thats the point this person is trying to make, its convoluted ESPECIALLY for people with not a lot of exposure to ow1
To be fair though, we don't know that there isn't a better explanation in the full game
@@gagemestro4089 There isn't an explanation in the current game. At least not one a regular player is exposed to. The whole system is obfuscated and it's the ONLY blizzard game where this happens. WoW tells you exactly what block rating is and does, in the tooltip.
I'm really disappointed in the execution of OW2.
@@erwarne That's definitely fair, but while maybe unlikely, it could be in the release of ow2
Yo this was so much more helpful than I thought it'd be. Thanks for putting in the time on this one!
This is cool. Thanks for the breakdown man. Torbjorn tanking headshots is hilarious.
Fitting, for a hard-headed stubborn Swede ❤️
"I'm OVERLOADING!!"
:D!
Yeah. I’m real life he would get absolutely get sent into oblivion 😂
For those that want to try plotting on desmos and see on close up, just input these 3 lines:
f\left(x
ight)=0.7x
g\left(x
ight)=\left\{x\le10:0.5x,x>10:x-5
ight\}
\frac{\left(f\left(x
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ight)}{g\left(x
ight)}\cdot100
1st line - f(x) is OW2's damage to armour target (30% reduction). X axis represents original damage, Y axis represents damage on armoured targets
2nd line - g(x) is OW1 (half under 10, -5 over 10). X axis represents original damage, Y axis represents damage on armoured targets
3rd line - percentage change in damage going from OW1 to OW2. X axis represents original damage, Y axis represents % change in damage
OMG ty.
Since Mercy doesn't have any other accelerating healing effect outside of the passive, it seems like her healing and sustain is weaker than all the other supports.
They could give her beam an overheal effect like Medic from TF2.
@@soulsmith4787 Yeah, now that they have overhealth, it would be really cool to add.
Mercy still has her own passive of sorts, which buffs the Support passive’s regen rate
@@TheDangerNoodle That's what I mean. All the other supports have ways of dramatically accelerating that passive healing. Even though hers is a little faster than normal, everybody else can have much more burst self healing.
@@cfriesen222 the only character who can accelerate the passive healing without using cooldowns is Lucio and *technically* Zen because he has shield regen. And while Lucio’s is slightly stronger than Mercy’s (his additional seld healing doesnt require the 3s no damage buffer, and heals ~12hp/s last I checked) he can still only heal when on the healing boost Crossfade song, and any good Lucio knows that the speed boost is just as important to use, so he naturally gets less value from his self healing than he could.
KarQ, like always, this was an extremely helpful and informative video. I had no idea how armor worked in ow 1 and I would have had no idea how it worked in ow2 but for your video. so thank you for everything you do for the community! your job doesn't pay enough to fully compensate you for the service you provide to all of us.
that being said, the "look at this graph" meme, delivered so seriously, was my favorite part of the video LUL that was so perfectly placed
Thank you!!
Agreed
12:03 welp it goes overhealth shields armour then health according to wrecking ball
TLDR: don’t let any of them reach 0
My question is why doesn't the game tell you all this? Why did I have to look this up just to get basic information required to play the game at all. I had no idea why Sigma for example was regenerating health randomly, or why half of my health was orange as Reinhardt
I vaguely remember years ago in ow1 (like at release or during beta) there was a brief explanation for it. Don’t know why they would remove that. Maybe I’m just misremembering.
We need a update on this video when the change goes up 😊
Especially pellet damage and burst damage.
Funny how Brig is in the thumbnail, since armor was her thing but has been slowly but surely being removed from her kit and hero uniqueness. Now the only armor she has is in her healthbar , and when she is basically full.
Her rally is trash as overhealth. It's a budget sound barrier, not good for attack nor defense.
Good, she was legit the reason I quit ow
@@idkfa9837 same. good riddance.
I agree. Her ult feels complete useless right now. It doesn't mean you hate a character then nerf she to the ground.
i havent played ow2, but i hope it gives a lot of health, or they increase it, or revert back to armor even if it needs to be nerfed to be fair. especially how slow everyone says the ults charge. take forever to get her ult and then its useless would suck. (im not a brig main either)
@@idkfa9837 Brig hasn't been busted in a long, long time my dude
I miss the old days. You know, the ones where KarQ was sponsored by Manscaped, and we got a sack full of ball puns? I mean, it was one after another. It was nuts.
as someone who's new to fast paced shooters (I used to play paladins, but eh) especially ow2 since it released free, your videos are so dang helpful!
I know the importance of this stuff since ive played quite a few competitive shooters at high elos like CSGO, valorant, apex etc.
so I do know the fact that I will need a lot of theoretical knowledge so I can build my gamesense, but I did not know exactly what to search for.
but you'd consistent guides have been helping out so much! I'm grateful.
Nice, keep in mind they reworked armour now it applies the %30 damage reduction only to the armoured portion of the hp bar
just an heads up that armor no longer mitigates 30% damage to your whole healthbar , instead it mitigates 30% damage only to the armor proportion to your health . so a Reinhardt Pin will kill Brigitte now.
A hero that didn't have health and just had shields and armor would be pretty cool
This would honestly make alot of sense for characters like Bastion or Orisa. It could possibly even work for Junker Queen if she ever becomes a playable character? (Since she's the Queen of a town literally filled with junk/scraps xD)
@@xickyr1611 The only issue I’d see with that is that, from a lore perspective, even machines like bastion wouldn’t be pure armor because the idea is that as you damage them, they’re exterior/more protective layer is destroyed leaving core components that can’t be inherently armored more exposed. Having a full armor unit would imply even at the most internal structures of the unit, that those parts would still be completely armored as well, which just wouldn’t really make sense.
Ball smirking at the “for now” line 😅
I've been confused about these for so long, thanks again KarQ!
Love you KarQ, these videos are always insane quality and explain the content thoroughly and in detail. We appreciate it and keep up the awesome work!
Dude, you know you got the best pfp in the history of ever right?
Damn I like how this is really the nitty gritty of what goes into making this thing different from the old one. The changes are noticed. Great breakdown too it was a superb job
the colors for armor & overhealth aren't particularly friendly for red-green colorblind folk that would otherwise not need to use a color setting. hopefully there's a way to tweak the colors for each of those things
Doesn't the game alredy have those options? (?
Don't you think Blizzard cares about its colorblind players? I think colorblind settings fixes this problem.
There is a colorblind settings
as a person who is not color blind, i think the colors stand out and they make sense intuitively. overwatch has colorblind settings, and since there are more non-colorblind people than colorblind, it's only logical that the colorblind people are the ones who should have to adapt and use the settings
@@albingrahn5576 the settings are basically non existent... They're borderline useless
ok, it may be easyer to read now, but Armor makes absolutely no sense now. The whole point was that your armor reduces low damage values but any greater attack would be pirceing trough the armor. Now it's just health that has a too small number.
Wrecking ball will be the first to have ALL lol
Do I already know this information: yes.
Am I still going to watch it, because the quality of these videos are addictive: YES.
I' m glad they made it way more consistent now than it was in Overwatch 1 where I found it pretty complicated to understand. Thanks for the explaination/update video on that topic, very informative :)
That suppprt passive will be so nice just so you're not forced to use a cooldown if you got away so that means more potential anti chances 😃
this video aged like milk during season 9
Why
@@Cashbans the hp rework
So with the changes in armor, Reaper, who already shreds through tanks, is now BETTER at his job?!
they nerfed his damage and increased his spread in ow2 to counteract this
@@aestheticsock8772 problem with that is every tiny hitbox heroes like widow , baby dva ,etc. are not taking as much damage cause the spread is too wide. So they are dodging death at point blank. The opposite happens to big hitbox heroes like tanks, torb, mei, bastion, etc. I get that his role is to kill tanks , but since there’s only 1 tank to eliminate, the last 4 heroes are mostly all tiny and if they are long range heroes , well good luck getting to them before they kill you.
If the 1 tank dies, everybody runs too
Having seen your old videos I didn't think there would be anything really different in this one, but I'm glad i watched it!
Armour in ow1 is only hard to understand if you choose to explain in an unnecessarily complicated way. It reduces damage by half up to a reduction of 5 per hit. That's it.
Still weirdly convoluted for little to no reason, like why is armor only reducing damage over 10 by 5? Like that’s so little and kinda a dumb calc. Granted it’s not complicated it’s just weird
@@FireDarkNinja yeah fair. I like the new system, it feels more balanced, and it's simpler. I would speculate the old system was based on the philosophy that armour should be very good at mitigating chip damage while allowing burst damage remain as effective.
@@FireDarkNinja its not weird, it makes sense that armor is good vs small bullets but bad vs large caliber or rockets. now armour is just hp*1.3
@@Rio-un5jl I mean sort of but no matter what armour will always reduce damage a significant amount especially futuristic special armor, like a 308. round to a Kevlar chest plate is gonna fucking hurt and maybe kill but it’s gonna be more than 5 damage.
@@FireDarkNinja i agree armour should always reduce damage, but whats lost on this system, and the entire point of armor in most games is that it protects you well vs non-AP weapons, but not that well vs AP weapons. Now everything is equally AP in the game. Its just glorified health now, thats more efficient at getting healed, no gameplay difference other than that.
The Brigitte pronunciation was surprisingly good so used to people butchering the pronunciation!
Brigitte technically has all 4 types of health, if you count her barrier as shield hp
I miss Briggs old ult, her new one makes no sense. Like a lot of the changes made in this game.
Yeah I'm really gonna miss the armor effect of overload and Rally, those were unique to them
I wished they gave them a bit more overhealth to compensate for the change.
Overload should get an overheal amount buff. Brig ult should provide an aoe damage resist (like 15%) so that it isn’t competing with sound barrier for overheal support ult
Yeah it’s a real bummer, rally is pretty much useless now
Great in depth video ! GJ KarQ i'm so ready for you to analyse OW2 from top to bottom
12:03 "for now..." and here we are, where ball has shield, health, armor, and overhealth
8:02 sticky stuff😏
Hey karq I used to watch ur vids a lot and they used to be REALLY helpful and entertaining 2 years ago I just wanna say now that I’m back to overwatch I’m glad to see your still the same and looking healthy man! I can enjoy the coNtent I once did the same and it feels very nice. Glad to see you and also I’m glad to always be informed! Many thanks playa
Hoping for the worskhop feature to be added in the next beta 🙏
That would be fun, I wanna mess with bastions artillery for some fun challenges
I was wondering about this! Of course it isn't there. Too bad though, it's where I go to practice my aim.
I remember a few years ago, back when new heroes were still being released for OV1, and before Apex was released, coming up with an idea for a support hero. I didn't finish working out the numbers for their fire rate or damage, but they essentially had an energy-based assault rifle (think soldier and baptise's guns), which while having a lower damage, could be overclocked to fire faster, give shots to direct health (not armour or shields) a fire dot, and ignore armour's damage reduction as it just melts through it... but was weaker against shields (both shield health and deployed energy shields). However, after overclocking, it would need to cool down, taking twice as long as their normal reloads would.
I also gave them an ultimate that deployed a little hovering drone that either: gave all teammates a temporary shield similar to Rally's armour, strengthened existing shields, or let all shields regen even while taking damage. (I couldn't decide on which it should be.)
That's as far as I got. I originally thought of their rifle's energy shots to partially restore all shields similar to Ana's shots to health, but make it indiscriminate, restoring even your opponent's shields.... but that would enable a lot of trolling.....
I never know any of this since I started playing in OW2. It’s great to know this! Should make things easier for me and my team!
10:20 no way!!! Is that groovin magic by round table playing in the background? Didn’t think I’d hear that here
Wrecking ball actually has both shields and armor rn after season three realease patch
What is the genuine point of this comment? This was made way before wrecking ball buff, so KarQ can't say Wrecking Ball because it'd be factually wrong. This is also why he added the "For now" line which is correct. Or are you trying to make KarQ aware of this, which is pointless seeing 3 days before your comment he already made a video about it.
BRO HE CALLED IT BALL IS GETTING SHEILDS ARMOR AND HEALTH IN SEASON 3
"There aren't any heroes in the game that have both shields and armor... for now"
Wrecking Ball after season 3:
holy shit i wasnt expecting the graphs
A nice walk through of changes. You were very thorough on armor. Thank you
Super informative and helpful! The armor section was particularly useful.
This systems a lot more simple now damn, thanks karq 🙏
OW 2 overhealth is a good improvement, but with orisas fortify with it looks op, +125 health and a damage reduction, I get she’s chunky but it’s like she is made out of titanium. AND SHE HAS ARMOR AHHhHHHH I get armor is less strong but still, + 40% dmg reduction rein also can’t kill brig with a charge, we needed a less powerful reinhardt!
Your edit removed the hearth, sadge
@@d00mnoodle62 dam that makes me sad he as well
They really wanted to buff her for erasing her shield. xD
Brig's Rally feels absolutely broken now that you dont have armor. It was great at initiating fights but now it just feels like it's only good for if your whole team needs some quick burst heals as you won't actually survive a push on Rally. They need to buff the Rally or change it completely. Of course, i'm sure Rally feels fine for people who are in groups but solo queueing is a mess.
Even in groups it’s weak. Heals slow, and if you’re pushing, you’re probably not gaining any over health. Just feels like a way, way worse Sound Barrier.
Answered allthe questions I had clearly and detailed! Thank you so much for making this!
Editor dropping in Groovin' Magic was a great choice. It's a bop
Good to know this since even though I opted into beta on day 2 of the early access announcement, never got to play it yet.
4:11 oh sweet devils, did not expected that picture 💀💀
imo as a colourblind person, they really need to make the colours more distinctive, they look almost exactly the same to me during matches.
Yeah it was really hard for me. I changed the enemy outlines to yellow, but now it's hard for me to see overhealth
This is very important for a lot of people! It really shouldn’t be hard to implement a color wheel for the UI elements.
Oh wow, didn't know they changed how armor worked. Significant change! Thank you!
Love your videos dude i watch them all the time when im in chemo and it always makes me feel a little better
I'd love a video that shows how stacked abilities can help teammates survive high burst damage. Like which heroes can survive dva bomb with nano
OW2 is really good but I think they did nothing for support. Ult takes forever to build, you have one tank and usually ball and doom gives zero f about teams unless they are low and crying. They need to do something for support roles. Oh and yeah the support queue is 1 min and others are 5. That explains why people don't want to play support now.
People arent playing support because you cant charge your ult in 30 seconds by being a braindead heal bot anymore.
It's the first beta things can and will change throughout.the support passive is really good especially for brig as putting shield up and blocking damage actually causes the game to consider you out of combat which means the 15 hp per second passive heal will kick in. Supports still require tweaking I think they should all have some sort of escape at a minimum and they should revert the sleep dart cooldown
thank you so much. I really needed this as I didn’t think there was any difference :)
I get that they wanted to make it simpler and that rally is super good and the best support ult in ow 1…. But still making brig and torb now grant overshields is such a huge nerf to two characters who are already struggling in the upcoming meta of overwatch 2
Their own armor is super useful now though, reducing the first rocket they get or charged headshot by 30% is a big deal
@@zilliq In a brawl style game with Brigitte being the number one brawl-style hero next to Rein, it doesn't really help overall. You still get three tapped by anyone on the map.
It also thematically feels weird.
@@GummyDinosaursify I'm hoping she has a better mobility option or at least some way Inspire helps her heal faster than usual supports. I loved her in Overwatch one but she was very situational and very risky.
Important to note that because of the damage reduction producing what is essentially a flat health boost, armor also technically heals faster because you're restore more overall health while healing armor. Its why orisa pockets feel so unkillable; most of her health is armor, so even a modest heal like a zen orb healing orisa's armor with fortify active jumps the heal rate from 30 hps all the way up to 78, over doubling it.
This video didn’t have to be 12 minutes long. I’m glad I have an ad blocker
4:10 LMAO are you kidding me!?! "Look at this P̶h̶o̶t̶o̶graph"
Well done, learned more than I thought I would honestly.
This helped me learn what armor does. Now i know why that reinhardt would NOT FREAKING DIE when i was shooting him as wrecking ball
Man I haven't heard "Groovin Magic" in such a long time
12:02 he said the thing
This channel is becoming my go-to option for when OW got an update lol.
Funny how he said no hero has both armour and shield health for now because wrecking ball now has both
3:50 "And Brigetha"
it's actually the correct way to pronounce her name
ruclips.net/video/PFWnt2Ewjos/видео.html - video of Matilda Smedius (Brig herself) teaching Carolina Ravassa (Sombra, Raze and amazing woman overall) how to pronounce her name and the name of her character
Also if you use the workshop health pool thing you can give the player over armour/shield
The background music, absolutely gold
I can't quite remember, what was it from again? It's really bugging me that I can't remember!
@@TheMerkit undertale, another medium
Interesting video! Thanks :)
I needed this guide, I’ve never been able to tell what exactly armour did
I needed this omg. Thank you sm!
Good video dawg very good graphics and straightforward
I thought I had clicked in a OW2 video, not a explanation about baskara and the thermodynamic theory
I will say for the entirety of back when I used to play overwatch, I never knew that armor health was actually any different than normal health.
Really well explained and visualized, thank you!
okay you know exactly what you were doing with that "for now" at the end. you're gonna get us killed
Why are they the colors of the 4 attack-types in undertale?
Am I the only ones noticing this?
Health=normal white attacks
Armour= orange move attacks
Shields= blue dont-move attacks
Overhealth= green healing “attacks”
i very much appreciate the detail you have you include in these videos
GURL he pulled out that graph and I felt like I was back in school
Great video KarQ! Thank you!
Nice, thanks my friend.
I am now up to suggesting the weird suit sigma has is armor, to get both on him >:D
Next reveal the differences between OW and OW2 cus I am having trouble finding any
I love these new changes, especially on characters i main like D.va and Mercy, they dont feel nearly as pathetic as in OW1, particularly D.va's cannons feeling like im pinching and throwing grains of sand at ppl like an angry Salt Bae. Now they actually hurt, AND she can take quite some punishment as a tank. Now that i know how these changes work and why im enjoying ow2 sooo much more, it makes me wonder how D.va would feel if her mech was half and half armor and shields, and baby D.va having normal health, as if it were a proper vehicle...
Probably overpowered. >:3
But it would make sense, the tank with the most emphasis on survivability, the regenerating shields would really work with using thrusters as an escape vector
Dude I love your setup and lighting!
really good educational video, thank u
thanks a lot for the video, was really helpful
0:00 Blizzard really had the nerve to put 2019 on there