Fun fact: Michael Chiklis said he'd only accept the role of the Thing if he was given a practical costume. He is a huge fan of the character and he wanted to actually wear a costume so he could literally BE the character and he spent hours every day in the makeup chair without complaint. That's true dedication right there
Unfortunately I think it's a safe bet that when the MCU starts introducing their own version of The Thing that he'll just be another CGI character, because when you watch Korg in Thor: Ragnarok you'd get a pretty basic idea of how they would be doing Thing.
@@notane.real1 To be fair that's what they've been doing with The Hulk since the 2003 movie, and Hulk is one of those Marvel characters like Venom that you have to admit is being portrayed more accurately from the comics than ever because of today's CGI, so it isn't like it can't still be a benefit for some characters more than others.
“I spent my whole life protecting you and for what? So you can play Twister with your girlfriend while I’m the FREAK OF THE WEEK?!😡” Michael Chiklis really nailed his role! He was the perfect man for the role 👍🏻
I really don't understand why the plot was like this in the movie, it could've been just about them learning how to use their powers to stop Doctor Doom.
The Tim Story film version blends both the classic Comics and the ultimate version in terms of how the Four and Doom gained their powers. - 616: Space mission gone wrong via Cosmic Rays; Doom's Miscalculations - 1610: Reed, Sue, Johnny, Ben, and Victor gained their powers in the same project.
@@superherobandaa3496 Yeah, I liked them both. Only thing I would change is Galactus. I would've had him be surrounded in "Cosmic dust". Then in that scene where Johnny helps stabilize Silver Surfer's board you get past the dust and actually see him. A giant leg, then move upwards towards his face. A little shrouded in shadow for some mystery. And you also see the purple of his eyes.
The Fox FF movies may be bad but Michael Chiklis nailed the Thing, showing him both as brute but also sympathetic hero. In this whole scene it's easy to understand why Ben falls into Doom's manipulation due to his desperation into wanting to be human again combine with the possible jealousy for Reed being able to go on a date with the girl he loves, something Ben can't do anymore because of his transformation.
I did not think the first one was bad...I am sorry but I remember a dozen different movies that are beloved that the special effects were know were near as good as this one and the acting was not bad.
@@marciasilva549 Yeah and the fact that he has to live with his friends, who all are famous and can have relationships really must causing him to suffer jealousy and lash out his anger for not being able to share this same respect that his friends gain from society.
Sue's actually op. The movies haven't done her justice yet, she WOULD break up the fight. One example, she can put a force field bubble in somebody, expand it & make 'em pop. She even got a win against HULK.
The cast of this film is gonna cameo in an MCU film and people are gonna start trying to convince everyone it was good all along and we just didn’t see it for two decades
Even though these movies aren’t the best, I absolutely loved them. The casting was great and they really got me into Marvel comics in general. Looking back, these films will always hold a special place in my heart
I never understood Ben here. Reed did everything he could to transform him (and them) back. But this is very complex and you have to do it right. You can't blame Reed for taking a break to avoid mistakes. Otherwise his best friend could get killed by his mistake and that's what Reed really doesn't want to. It's not like he stopped working for a week, he literally fell asleep while working on a solution and Susan had to force him to take a break. I understand, that the situation was hard for Ben, but his best friend did everything to get him back to normal and he questions him for taking a break? That's not fair.
Reed did nothing wrong but you have to understand Ben. Reed, Sue, and Johnny all got powers but they still look the same and they are even celebrities. But Ben is treated like a monster, a "thing", even the love of his life left him. He was more desperate to turn back to normal than Reed and Sue (Johnny is not included because he enjoyed having powers)
@@xentharas5629 I know, but we also have to know that anyone in Ben's shoes could have reacted like that. Like out of the four, he could have wondered why he should have suffered the most.
And thats why i love this scene. A good written scene. The family dynamic is there as well. One can sympathize and understand both points of view. Thing is ugly and not accepted by people, especially his loved one. Not only that, but its hard for him to benefit off of his powers, as it only offers him brute strength, whereas the others got kickass powers and look the same and can lead normal lives still if they want to. Thing doesnt have a choice or those options. While Reed is working hard at it and tirelessly, he still has time to go on a date with his lover, adding salt to the lost love wound of the Thing. How can your focus be on one thing specifically as well as say that is your main goal, but then you have time to not work on the project to play romance. So the Thing was correct in that aspect. However, from Reed's pov and side of things, its completely understandable that he is in the right, as he has been working nonstop on it for the most part and while being smartest man alive, it doesnt mean its easy and its still very taxing on his mind. And he still does have a relationship to water. Part of his situation is that he has to balance all of these situations to please everyone, as a lover to Susan and a friend and family member to the rest, Thing included. And when he finally does put off his work, which is very rare for Reed, he still gets punished for it. I also love that this scene shows accurate characterization of the two. Reed barely has time for his love life, as the leader of the fantastic four, as well as being the brains of the whole thing and still having a responsibility to the rest of the world, as one of the worlds greatest scientific minds. Not only that, but he is a perfectionist, and sometimes that means he uses more time than he can afford or never finished on certain projects. The machine could be good enough already, but Reed wants to perfect it, out of his necessity and out of wanting to make sure nothing goes wrong. The Thing is hot headed, an isolationist at heart, and impatient, so its fitting that he doesnt want to wait and has no care as to if it things can get worse, because there is a possibility of it solving everything and thats all he hears or cares about. While he doesnt put much care into his well being, the rest of his family do. Finally, you get the brawler Thing trying to release his hit head anger and solve things through brute force, even attacking, compared to Reed, who even after being pushed and all, doesnt want to fight. And when he does decide that he must act through physical means, he doesnt even attack or hit the Thing, but only subdues him and dodges his attacks. And as for Susan, she gets ignored by the Thing in this scene, and even brushed aside. Almost finally getting her way of Reed focusing on her for once, and when she almost finally gets it, it only causes drama to the group dynamic and causes Reed and the Thing to get into an altercation. She is invisible women, as without even using her powers, shes "invisible" to Mr. Fantastic and in this scene, "invisible" to Ben.
“Stop it or I will” I wish we had seen that. These movies never really showed how powerful Sue could be and how she’s not someone to underestimate. One of my favorite moments of her’s in the comics was when Hydra brainwashed Wolverine and sent him after the FF and she blinded and choked him out via strategic use of her powers. The only reason she didn’t do worse was because Hydra got Wolverine out of there
Ben: I've spent my whole life protecting you and for what? So you could play twister with your girlfriend while I'm the freak of the week? That part will crack me up every time 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
0:33 this is like raphael interrupts and shoves leonardo in tmnt 2 the leader says something and the strongest one interrupts him with shoving when reed says i have to get it right and is not right yet we need to get tests...... and then ben interrupts reed with shoving with 1 finger
Same, they only got a bad rep cause the plot was light on actual superhero action. Otherwise, the casting was perfect and the powers were used creatively like in this scene.
Movies back then were absolutely magical, in storytelling and scope. The beautiful scores were final icing on the cake 🎂. There's no magic or inspiration anymore 😢, seems to be all be political and personal agendas and corporate profit. I've noticed that most movies scores sounds very generic with "NO" heart or emotions. I really want to bringing the back those types of movies that I grew up with ever since I was toddler and younger ages in 2000s era with more "Absolutely Magical", "Storytelling" and "Scope". Even more "Heart and Emotion".
@@iandanielcassidy8126 That was exactly what I had in mind with the early 2000 marvel movies, I used to call them the great rise, and the later reboots the rusty issues. Until they are brought into the MCU, I believe we could all re experience the classical magic of marvel. Like Spider-Man.
@@Omega_Redstone totally agree. People think it's all nostalgia goggles and being unfair to modern movies, but No. It's all the value and quality of the movies back then, the delivery, lessons everything all that is gone nowadays. Technology creates the story these days, not the soul of the writer.
Both versions had their problems. The main problems with the Tim Story movies is how they did Sue and Doom. They always focused on how sexy Jessica Elba is rather than focusing on the character as a person. Doom isn’t supposed to get powers from the same accident that create the 4. Doom is a master of magic and is as brilliant as Reed and Tony Stark. He is a dictator of his own country, so he has diplomatic immunity. His main goal is to rule the world in the comics. All he does in these movies is create havoc. He acts like Lex Luthor in these movies but in the comics he is so much more than that.
Michael Chiklis as the Thing was an absolutely perfect casting choice. It's on par with Kelsey Grammer as Beast, Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool and RDJ as Iron Man. He's able to convey so much emotion through all that makeup and he truly captures the character's sassy and brutish nature. Even the voice is exactly how I imagined from the comics. I was never really a fan of the other casting choices, especially Jessica Alba as Sue. I didn't feel like she captured Sue's motherly personality from the comics. Ioan Gruffudd as Reed also didn't sit well with me. They tried to make him adorkable and nerdy but Reed was never socially awkward in the comics, as he was very charismatic and outspoken. Chris Evans as Johnny was...okay. But he didn't really get much focus other than being a child-like comic relief.
For the MCU Fantastic Four I think they should make it similar to Doom Patrol where the overall threats are emotional not physical, explore the trauma that each of these characters have and how they deal with it, and have the heart of the movie be about Reed, Sue, Johnny and Ben's relationships with each other
Ben was being absolutely being stupid and selfish, Dr. Doom lied to him to turn against Reed, honestly I like it better when Ben and Johnny are fighting.
What made him angry is that Reed is taking off time from work to spend time with Sue in public like normal people.... he promised him that he would stop at nothing to cure him yet he is giving off the same attitude that Johnny has shown: since they can turn their powers on and off at whim they can still live semi-normal lives, enjoy fame and go out while Ben is viewed as a monster, the least heroic and people run away from him.... he is angry and frustrated cause Reed is essentially pushing him aside and not viewing Ben's situation with more concern.........
Say what you want, the movies' casting was perfect. Everyone talk about Chiklis, but Gruffudd and Evans were just as good in embodying their respective characters. The CGI holds pretty good to this day, as well.
At least after this fight we learned why Mr Fantastic is the leader of the group even if it was the comic continued onward thing right brilliant Marvel fans in case you catch my drift
@@omniscension8967 well didn't he won the fight against the the thing there, I mean Mr Fantastic covered up the The Thing all around him and he the Thing couldn't move at all so in case this happen in the comics of Mr Fantastic, Human Torch and The Thing of fighting each other of who should be the leader of the Team we now know Mr Fantastic would win the fight with easy so that's what, I meant Dillon sir.
With their friendship throughout the years I feel like reed knows how to calm Ben down but now with powers he’s not tryna fight Ben just restrain him till he calms down bc to reed Ben is still his friend and he’d rather risk his own life than ruin bens life more than it could
I watched this movie recently for the first time and I got say its actually enjoyable. Its not perfect, casting is pretty good, I respect the decision to make the thing practical and not CGI. Its not a great movie by any means, but its a fun one that I wouldnt mind popping in every now and then
The casting for these films was surprisingly good, especially Laurence Fishburne as The Silver Surfer. I just hope Dr. Doom isn't just some snidy, whiny prick in the MCU. Still waitin' on that Giancarlo Esposito casting, MARVEL...
@N-Gin & TonicTM I love Giancarlo but honestly he’s not Dr. Doom material imo. He’s a phenomenal actor but as a huge Doom fan I just can’t envision him in the role. I think more along the lines of Nikolaj Coster Waldau, Cillian Murphy, Michael Fassbender, Alexander Skarsgård
The only thing I didn't like about these movies was The Thing being so small.I mean this is Ben freakin Grimm we're talking about and he wasn't even as big as some bodybuilders I've seen.His color and texture was passable,his size was an insult.The tamest MCU Hulk could take him easily
First of all i completely understand Ben's frustration of beinga rock-based creature but i agree with Reed there, without testing he would not be sure if the machine works.
Well instead of going out on a date he should be at his desk working to cure his best friend and ensure the machine is capable of doing that, hence Bens fury!
Fun fact: Michael Chiklis said he'd only accept the role of the Thing if he was given a practical costume. He is a huge fan of the character and he wanted to actually wear a costume so he could literally BE the character and he spent hours every day in the makeup chair without complaint. That's true dedication right there
That costume looks like shit
Unfortunately I think it's a safe bet that when the MCU starts introducing their own version of The Thing that he'll just be another CGI character, because when you watch Korg in Thor: Ragnarok you'd get a pretty basic idea of how they would be doing Thing.
@@nicksorenson940 yeah, actor motion capture and cgi the thing in
@@notane.real1 To be fair that's what they've been doing with The Hulk since the 2003 movie, and Hulk is one of those Marvel characters like Venom that you have to admit is being portrayed more accurately from the comics than ever because of today's CGI, so it isn't like it can't still be a benefit for some characters more than others.
I'm not sure if him wanting it to be practical is real, but he did say it was a hell to wear that shit
“I spent my whole life protecting you and for what? So you can play Twister with your girlfriend while I’m the FREAK OF THE WEEK?!😡”
Michael Chiklis really nailed his role! He was the perfect man for the role 👍🏻
Agreed
Ben Stop It
@@jamesl.anderson1384 you stay out of this Susie
@@rubenfranco8618 stop it or i will
Get off me rubber boy!
Plot could be better but the casting was easily 10/10.
Plot in the first movie is perfect. Except for Doctor Doom
I really don't understand why the plot was like this in the movie, it could've been just about them learning how to use their powers to stop Doctor Doom.
@@masterdrake43because this is a big factor in their origin
The Tim Story film version blends both the classic Comics and the ultimate version in terms of how the Four and Doom gained their powers.
- 616: Space mission gone wrong via Cosmic Rays; Doom's Miscalculations
- 1610: Reed, Sue, Johnny, Ben, and Victor gained their powers in the same project.
Never understood why this movie was so hated. I love it.
it was the other movie
Other movie is also gold
@@superherobandaa3496 Yeah, I liked them both. Only thing I would change is Galactus. I would've had him be surrounded in "Cosmic dust". Then in that scene where Johnny helps stabilize Silver Surfer's board you get past the dust and actually see him. A giant leg, then move upwards towards his face. A little shrouded in shadow for some mystery. And you also see the purple of his eyes.
I think they mean the one with the black human torch
I thought part 2 was awesome, the casting for silver surfer was spot on, Victor Doom Returns, but Galactus Cloud Burts I mean... :/
Ioan Gruffudd actually played a pretty good Mr. Fantastic. :)
I know right? He looks way more iconic and hopefully John Krasinski can keep it going
Yeah his version looks spot on to the comics compared to that 2015 one
@@christmascreeper5027 same
He actually was my favorite. lusting after Jessica Alba wasn't bad too.
@@christmascreeper5027 Nah i want Gruffudd in Doctor Strange 2. Kransiski is a joke
The Fox FF movies may be bad but Michael Chiklis nailed the Thing, showing him both as brute but also sympathetic hero. In this whole scene it's easy to understand why Ben falls into Doom's manipulation due to his desperation into wanting to be human again combine with the possible jealousy for Reed being able to go on a date with the girl he loves, something Ben can't do anymore because of his transformation.
I did not think the first one was bad...I am sorry but I remember a dozen different movies that are beloved that the special effects were know were near as good as this one and the acting was not bad.
And to be fair, out of all of them, Ben was the one who lost the most.
@@Paradox-vk9fe The two movies aren't bad but are far from being good adaptations of the Fantastic Four.
@@marciasilva549 Yeah and the fact that he has to live with his friends, who all are famous and can have relationships really must causing him to suffer jealousy and lash out his anger for not being able to share this same respect that his friends gain from society.
@@JBD915right. imagine this thing next to hulk 2003.
That's actually perfectly normal for two best friends to get into a fight like that
Let's be honest, Michael Chiklis as the thing carried these movies
Him and Chris Evans were both great in these movies!
Michael's performance was rock solid.
@@RudiW1510 and Chris Evans was on fire
Don't sleep on Mr Fantastic, he played his part perfectly. Honestly all 4 of them did.
@@wulaeofthetengu8336 yes! People never mention how great Ioan Gruffudd was as reed
The twister with your girlfriend gets me a lot 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Now this is THE smartest man alive
John Krasinski’s Reed in MOM was just a variant from an alternate reality.
@@sammontanez6908and is also stupid
@@sammontanez6908I mean... His intro is literally "The Smartest Man Alive"...
Then he went and got poor ol' No-Speak killed.
wtf is wrong with u first is batman second is luthor then spiderman later iron man and banner...
@@dywanztaboru40 reference flew over ya head
"Good thing your flexible enough to watch your own back"
Wanda: "What back?"
"Stay out of this Suzie"
"Stop it or I will"
...okay?
Get off me rubber boy
she means she will stop it herself
Sue's actually op. The movies haven't done her justice yet, she WOULD break up the fight.
One example, she can put a force field bubble in somebody, expand it & make 'em pop.
She even got a win against HULK.
@@Walt_Xander94so she can do the same thing as antman to Thanos
Horribly written line 🥴
You can see a family dynamic exemplified in this scene. One of the things this movie did right
"GET OFF ME RUBBER BOY!" says the guy in the rubber suit
Reed becomes super rubber boy
Ben Grimm isn't aware of the fourth wall, lol
The cast of this film is gonna cameo in an MCU film and people are gonna start trying to convince everyone it was good all along and we just didn’t see it for two decades
If and/or when this happens, I'm coming back here to say you called it.
I don’t think anyone’s gonna do that. Ever. Chris evans was in this movie as human torch and it hasn’t happened
@@trashygamer7014 And? Now there's a perfect setup for a joke.
@@NitroNinja324 I don't follow
@@trashygamer7014 ?
The best thing about Mr.Fantastic is he can give himself a reach-around
Over time this film will be re-evaluated
They will apear in Dr. Strange movie.
@@RonsaRRR No
No, its still bad
Storytelling could be better. But damn, they really look the part.
Nah
Even though these movies aren’t the best, I absolutely loved them. The casting was great and they really got me into Marvel comics in general. Looking back, these films will always hold a special place in my heart
I never understood Ben here.
Reed did everything he could to transform him (and them) back.
But this is very complex and you have to do it right. You can't blame Reed for taking a break to avoid mistakes.
Otherwise his best friend could get killed by his mistake and that's what Reed really doesn't want to.
It's not like he stopped working for a week, he literally fell asleep while working on a solution and Susan had to force him to take a break.
I understand, that the situation was hard for Ben, but his best friend did everything to get him back to normal and he questions him for taking a break? That's not fair.
Reed did nothing wrong but you have to understand Ben. Reed, Sue, and Johnny all got powers but they still look the same and they are even celebrities. But Ben is treated like a monster, a "thing", even the love of his life left him. He was more desperate to turn back to normal than Reed and Sue (Johnny is not included because he enjoyed having powers)
@@jetguy128 i understand that, but blaming Reed is possibly the most wrong act in his position.
@@xentharas5629 I know, but we also have to know that anyone in Ben's shoes could have reacted like that. Like out of the four, he could have wondered why he should have suffered the most.
@@xentharas5629 victor manipulated Ben also
And thats why i love this scene. A good written scene. The family dynamic is there as well.
One can sympathize and understand both points of view. Thing is ugly and not accepted by people, especially his loved one. Not only that, but its hard for him to benefit off of his powers, as it only offers him brute strength, whereas the others got kickass powers and look the same and can lead normal lives still if they want to. Thing doesnt have a choice or those options. While Reed is working hard at it and tirelessly, he still has time to go on a date with his lover, adding salt to the lost love wound of the Thing. How can your focus be on one thing specifically as well as say that is your main goal, but then you have time to not work on the project to play romance. So the Thing was correct in that aspect.
However, from Reed's pov and side of things, its completely understandable that he is in the right, as he has been working nonstop on it for the most part and while being smartest man alive, it doesnt mean its easy and its still very taxing on his mind. And he still does have a relationship to water. Part of his situation is that he has to balance all of these situations to please everyone, as a lover to Susan and a friend and family member to the rest, Thing included. And when he finally does put off his work, which is very rare for Reed, he still gets punished for it.
I also love that this scene shows accurate characterization of the two. Reed barely has time for his love life, as the leader of the fantastic four, as well as being the brains of the whole thing and still having a responsibility to the rest of the world, as one of the worlds greatest scientific minds. Not only that, but he is a perfectionist, and sometimes that means he uses more time than he can afford or never finished on certain projects. The machine could be good enough already, but Reed wants to perfect it, out of his necessity and out of wanting to make sure nothing goes wrong. The Thing is hot headed, an isolationist at heart, and impatient, so its fitting that he doesnt want to wait and has no care as to if it things can get worse, because there is a possibility of it solving everything and thats all he hears or cares about. While he doesnt put much care into his well being, the rest of his family do.
Finally, you get the brawler Thing trying to release his hit head anger and solve things through brute force, even attacking, compared to Reed, who even after being pushed and all, doesnt want to fight. And when he does decide that he must act through physical means, he doesnt even attack or hit the Thing, but only subdues him and dodges his attacks.
And as for Susan, she gets ignored by the Thing in this scene, and even brushed aside. Almost finally getting her way of Reed focusing on her for once, and when she almost finally gets it, it only causes drama to the group dynamic and causes Reed and the Thing to get into an altercation. She is invisible women, as without even using her powers, shes "invisible" to Mr. Fantastic and in this scene, "invisible" to Ben.
“Stop it or I will”
I wish we had seen that. These movies never really showed how powerful Sue could be and how she’s not someone to underestimate. One of my favorite moments of her’s in the comics was when Hydra brainwashed Wolverine and sent him after the FF and she blinded and choked him out via strategic use of her powers. The only reason she didn’t do worse was because Hydra got Wolverine out of there
This Wolverine comics was whack as fuck
I'd be glad to see Ioan gruffudd back as Reed Richards.
Me too
Ben: I've spent my whole life protecting you and for what? So you could play twister with your girlfriend while I'm the freak of the week?
That part will crack me up every time 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The twister with your girlfriend gets me a lot 😂😂😂
Sue: Ben stop it
@@jamesl.anderson1384 ben: you stay out of this Susie
@@rubenfranco8618 stop it or i will
0:34
0:36 just like Raphael
0:33 this is like raphael interrupts and shoves leonardo in tmnt 2 the leader says something and the strongest one interrupts him with shoving when reed says i have to get it right and is not right yet we need to get tests...... and then ben interrupts reed with shoving with 1 finger
dont care, loved these movies and i always will
Same here
Same, they only got a bad rep cause the plot was light on actual superhero action. Otherwise, the casting was perfect and the powers were used creatively like in this scene.
Mr fantastic forced the thing to t pose
Fun fact: the weight of the first Thing Suit was over four hundred pounds!
That's like 3 times the weight of an average person. You sure it was four hundred pounds?
@@nazmossakib9157 yes. Weight distribution is an interesting thing. But the second thing suit weighed a lot less bc they used different materials
If this is true, It is really fscinating I love this kind of big and heavy pratical efects's suit like in old kaiju movies
how come he was able to act to begin with?
I love how Michael Chiklis is the one thing we can all get behind with these movies. Truly someone who went all out with his dedication
I'm so ready to see the MCU version of Fantastic Four.
Oh, yeah me too !! 💕💕
I already made his appearance in the MCU I’m not gonna spoil it to you
spaggheti
Yes Red Richard the smartest man alive
Welp. lmao
These movies are fun, like the original comics were. Not exactly Oscar worthy but still a fun watch nonetheless. The reboot is an unwatchable mess.
Movies back then were absolutely magical, in storytelling and scope. The beautiful scores were final icing on the cake 🎂. There's no magic or inspiration anymore 😢, seems to be all be political and personal agendas and corporate profit. I've noticed that most movies scores sounds very generic with "NO" heart or emotions. I really want to bringing the back those types of movies that I grew up with ever since I was toddler and younger ages in 2000s era with more "Absolutely Magical", "Storytelling" and "Scope". Even more "Heart and Emotion".
@@iandanielcassidy8126 That was exactly what I had in mind with the early 2000 marvel movies, I used to call them the great rise, and the later reboots the rusty issues. Until they are brought into the MCU, I believe we could all re experience the classical magic of marvel. Like Spider-Man.
@@Omega_Redstone totally agree. People think it's all nostalgia goggles and being unfair to modern movies, but No. It's all the value and quality of the movies back then, the delivery, lessons everything all that is gone nowadays. Technology creates the story these days, not the soul of the writer.
Both versions had their problems. The main problems with the Tim Story movies is how they did Sue and Doom. They always focused on how sexy Jessica Elba is rather than focusing on the character as a person. Doom isn’t supposed to get powers from the same accident that create the 4. Doom is a master of magic and is as brilliant as Reed and Tony Stark. He is a dictator of his own country, so he has diplomatic immunity. His main goal is to rule the world in the comics. All he does in these movies is create havoc. He acts like Lex Luthor in these movies but in the comics he is so much more than that.
0:26 here comes trouble!
Michael Chiklis as the Thing was an absolutely perfect casting choice. It's on par with Kelsey Grammer as Beast, Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool and RDJ as Iron Man. He's able to convey so much emotion through all that makeup and he truly captures the character's sassy and brutish nature. Even the voice is exactly how I imagined from the comics.
I was never really a fan of the other casting choices, especially Jessica Alba as Sue. I didn't feel like she captured Sue's motherly personality from the comics. Ioan Gruffudd as Reed also didn't sit well with me. They tried to make him adorkable and nerdy but Reed was never socially awkward in the comics, as he was very charismatic and outspoken. Chris Evans as Johnny was...okay. But he didn't really get much focus other than being a child-like comic relief.
He fought for the role because Ben is his favorite comic book character
Yo for a movie that came out in 2005, this looks fire
The casting for the Fantastic 4 in this duology is so underrated, especially Michael as Ben/Thing.
Ben was acting like Reed had given up trying to help him
Their the OG fantastic four better than the newest ones for all I know
For the MCU Fantastic Four I think they should make it similar to Doom Patrol where the overall threats are emotional not physical, explore the trauma that each of these characters have and how they deal with it, and have the heart of the movie be about Reed, Sue, Johnny and Ben's relationships with each other
I hope reed is played by John krasinski
No.
No ,they got so many crazy villians in comics ,why would we want some trauma shit
Isn’t that what this movie is?
That sounds awful
I want these actors in Doctor Strange 2 especially Ioan Gruffudd's Mr Fantastic
He got replaced by John krasinski in MCU
@@chasestucki629 Yep, Mr. Fantastic in the MCU was the "smartest" man alive. Right Black Volt?
This was during Peak Jessica Alba hotness and no one can argue otherwise.
I see no lies
No no, he's got a point.
Its a shame they made her invisible at all. :D
Err 2010 I think, even 2016
@@jeromeinthehousesowatchyam4237 i see nothing
Love this cast so much better than the newer cast, but yall keep on laughing
The thumbnail has meme potential
I hope that old casting comeback in this marvel multiverse would be awesome
This is hands down the best adaptation we've got of the F4. I hope these guys can make a cameo in the next adaptation
Ngl this fantastic team we’re a better one than 2015❤️ I hope we see them again in multiverse of madness
No
Ben was being absolutely being stupid and selfish, Dr. Doom lied to him to turn against Reed, honestly I like it better when Ben and Johnny are fighting.
he is not stupid, he was very sad because of his looks
@@MrAlkylation He absolutely WAS being stupid... Reed gave a very valid argument for why the machine isn't ready, and Ben just ignores it.
@@nahor88
Would you wanna look like that and not be able to live a normal life? No lol
What made him angry is that Reed is taking off time from work to spend time with Sue in public like normal people.... he promised him that he would stop at nothing to cure him yet he is giving off the same attitude that Johnny has shown: since they can turn their powers on and off at whim they can still live semi-normal lives, enjoy fame and go out while Ben is viewed as a monster, the least heroic and people run away from him.... he is angry and frustrated cause Reed is essentially pushing him aside and not viewing Ben's situation with more concern.........
a year from today This movie turns 20 years old!
Say what you want, the movies' casting was perfect. Everyone talk about Chiklis, but Gruffudd and Evans were just as good in embodying their respective characters.
The CGI holds pretty good to this day, as well.
Man jessica's face was just so beautiful
"So you can play twister with your girlfriend, while I'm the freak of the week!?"
At least after this fight we learned why Mr Fantastic is the leader of the group even if it was the comic continued onward thing right brilliant Marvel fans in case you catch my drift
Could you give more detail on this? I have no clue what you're talking about.
@@omniscension8967 well didn't he won the fight against the the thing there, I mean Mr Fantastic covered up the The Thing all around him and he the Thing couldn't move at all so in case this happen in the comics of Mr Fantastic, Human Torch and The Thing of fighting each other of who should be the leader of the Team we now know Mr Fantastic would win the fight with easy so that's what, I meant Dillon sir.
@@drewharding Oh I got you. I misunderstood your original comment. Thanks for clearing that up.
Ben: yeah, i have that effect on people.
Reed: "Were working as hard as we can." 🤨
@@Just_KILL3R Ben: (Chuckles) Yeah. I can tell. Victor was right.
@@rainbowhawk911 "Victor? Ben I don't know this thing will change us back or make us worse. I need you to be patient for a little while longer..."
@@Just_KILL3R Ben: REED! LOOK AT ME!
@@rainbowhawk911 "I am looking. That's why I can't make a mistake. I gotta get it right; and it's not right yet. We need to test it."
Who came here after watching doctor strange 2 john krasinski's fantastic 4 version??😎
Poor Reed got crushed by Wanda easily...
@@VARJAGAMINGENTERTAINMENT At least Wanda got her end at the end of the movie
Michael Was a great Thing. I wish he’d come back.
Should have gotta this actor back for Doctor Strange 2.
Nah. They kill him off too. Look what done to Patrick Stewart 😮
Big Brute strength, the 💪 member of Fantastic 4 vs Tensile strength.
Susan: stop it or I will!
Tf you gonna do play hide and seek
She could easily kill him 😂
Get off me rubber boy 🤣🤣
Ioan Gruffurd is a better Mr. Fantastic than John Kransinski *fight me*
I’ll fight WITH you
With their friendship throughout the years I feel like reed knows how to calm Ben down but now with powers he’s not tryna fight Ben just restrain him till he calms down bc to reed Ben is still his friend and he’d rather risk his own life than ruin bens life more than it could
Poor Ben.
Yeah but he’s happy now he found his perfect lover and still has his friends
Ioan Gruffudd is the best Reed Richards a.k.a Mr fantastic in fantastic four 👈👍💯
No
@@aurebat5358 yes
Been saying it. All the fantastic 4 movies are flawed, but this is the best representation.
The first was definitely the best. It wasn't great, but it was the best of them all.
Bring this cast back
They were the perfect cast
Stop fighting otherwise I'll call up Wanda. 😛
When you add fake tension to the script
The best Fantastic Four movies, even though all r bad, these r still the most comic accurate compared to, you know 😑
🔥!Fant4stic!🔥
@@JKissoon1🤢
You stay out this Susie 0:44
Nothing is beating this FF cast they all look exactly like their comic counterparts can't say the same for the MCU though but honestly not surprised
That CGI though 😂👍🏽
They call it a fight and yet Ben just pushes and throws Reed not attempting one punch on him despite his anger
I watched this movie recently for the first time and I got say its actually enjoyable. Its not perfect, casting is pretty good, I respect the decision to make the thing practical and not CGI. Its not a great movie by any means, but its a fun one that I wouldnt mind popping in every now and then
No
@@aurebat5358 Ratio. 🚬🐛
Ben, relax and chant with me.
(Mulan reference)
Ben growling
The casting for these films was surprisingly good, especially Laurence Fishburne as The Silver Surfer.
I just hope Dr. Doom isn't just some snidy, whiny prick in the MCU.
Still waitin' on that Giancarlo Esposito casting, MARVEL...
@N-Gin & TonicTM I love Giancarlo but honestly he’s not Dr. Doom material imo. He’s a phenomenal actor but as a huge Doom fan I just can’t envision him in the role. I think more along the lines of Nikolaj Coster Waldau, Cillian Murphy, Michael Fassbender, Alexander Skarsgård
@@rileyribble6733 Michael Fassbender was Magneto tho.
@Keanu Paler and Chris Evans was Human Torch. That doesn’t really matter given it was under FOX lol. He could very easily play Dr. Doom in the MCU
@@rileyribble6733 That would be confusing so I don’t think so.
0:27 0:43 This is no big deal they still wanted wanna changed back to normal.
17 years and I still like this movie
I feel like Korg and Ben would be good friends
I agree!
First saw Reed in 102 Dalmatians lol
This was a great movie originals kick ass!
No
I can't believe how old this movie is. Damn I'm old
Forget it’s cloberin time, I’m by Cracker Barrel and it’s peach cobbler time 😊
Chris evens played two marvel characters captain America and human torch 💀
come on that's jessica alba you can't blame a guy for being distracted.
I can't blame Ben for being angry at Reed and Sue he's been treated a monster. He's literally my favourite character.
my first superhero movies still love ioan's mr fantastic
Still the single best Reed Richards followed by Krasinski and now the miscast announcement of Pedro Pascal.
Wow, this is the first time I realized Ben had 4 fingers
I liked this movie more than the remake.
Gotta say this movie is fantastic
The only thing I didn't like about these movies was The Thing being so small.I mean this is Ben freakin Grimm we're talking about and he wasn't even as big as some bodybuilders I've seen.His color and texture was passable,his size was an insult.The tamest MCU Hulk could take him easily
0:45 oh and what you gonna do ? being naked and invisible ?
I hope MCU does the fantastic 4 justice right
the thing has no idea that he's fighting a god "Nika Nika"!
Thing: “Reed! Look at me!”😡
Reed: “ I am looking!” 😡 0:27
This was in my recommended for no reason. Fantastic 4 news is coming.
This scene coulda been very powerful if they didn’t try turning it into a joke
Because of the pun? People talk like that to relieve stress.
@@destroyerblackdragon no the whole thing was just so hokey like a lame cartoon
@@spermario645On the contrary, this joke is appropriate.
@@Marine_2010 nah it sucked and so did the movie
@@spermario645 why?
“Stop it or I will” taken literally means she’s giving him what he asked for.
First of all i completely understand Ben's frustration of beinga rock-based creature but i agree with Reed there, without testing he would not be sure if the machine works.
Well instead of going out on a date he should be at his desk working to cure his best friend and ensure the machine is capable of doing that, hence Bens fury!
@@carson11100 while you gotta point there 👍 but Reed needs to take a break sometimes and not exhaust himself for work.
He looks like a melted down Stretch Armstrong.
GET OFF ME RUBBER BOY !!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The smartest man