This is the most out of the box and least expensive conversion I have seen. For those of us who can’t afford to go buy a new Tesla and just switch bodies I think this is a great video to give ideas! Thanks a lot!
I've seen some shadetree shit in my day but this takes the cake! How are the main bearings going to get lubricated? Parasitic drag from trying to turn the heavy unbalanced crankshaft.
good idea ... but you have to take into account several things such as lubrication of the crankshaft, the fact that the time band is not determined for that type of effort and the engine will keep you turning backwards, that causes the transmission to it is the other way around ... I also feel that you have the ability to move the project forward. I'll be waiting to see it work. good luck
I really like the idea because it bypasses the need for external engine mounts. The oil pan issue is legitimate and can probably be solved with rerouting the oil pump over the crank shaft bearings. I recommend replacing timing sprockets with motorcycle chain sprockets.
@@steveakendo8579 Pretty sure the block on those Suzukis is aluminum but keeping the original crank isn't the best idea. Esp with no way to lube the bearings.
Ya using the old block is a way to stay away for facing up a lot of other stuff . I would not use to old engen but I do understand y many people do or would
I join the other comments to insist that the best and worthy conversion is to volt directly onto gearbox either with clutch of you want to keep it or without clutch. Get rid of weight and other technical n mechanical inconveniences. Which motor are you using and what's the price? Good luck.
Guys don’t hate, we were all interested in his idea whether we agree if it works or not.. but to the builder, my advise is, if your planing on using this setup there are a lot of cons you may have to overcome before it’s a daily driver.. like you have now, I wouldn’t be as concerned about an oiling system because I don’t see you generating a lot of torque, grease will probably work in place of an oiling system, the belt is so long your gonna lose a lot of torque thru it.. basically if you want to use the engine block, and flywheel, you may have been better off stripping the engine down as you have, and placing your electric motor where your starter was and running it that way, your gonna get more torque there than any other location using this setup, but without starter, you may want to park it in a slight incline for easy take off
Great effort, though would’ve been better to see how the bolts are removed and the oil drained first. Also thank you so much for holding the camera steady and not waving it and making me sick from motion sickness like some other videos.
MrCorynick yeah but which bolts, how many, what size, how much room, can it be done with impact drill, does anything need to be supported whilst loosening ..... sheesh!!!
The G-series are amazing little lumps. The one in my '89 Sidekick has been running with a cracked head since I got it in '09. I replaced the head with one that had narrower cracks (between the valves as usual!) back in '13 and have not missed a beat. I don't know of any other engine that will tolerate these conditions.
Mostly brilliant! Big pulley on motor and small pulley on crank seems like a torque reduction. I'm thinking of how those pulleys could/should be reversed. Big torque reduction means big increase in amperes. Shorter life of brushes. Blocking off oil feed to the head would allow retention of oil pump to lube mains, should this thing hold together!
@@bayuprastyo3902 Brushless motor needs big transistors and a controller to change DC into AC. So yes it would solve the brush wear problem. But then you would need a dedicated cooling system to keep the high current transistors from overheating. This is what goes on inside an actual electric car. Good question. Shows you are thinking!
Please, Make attention!!! Engine oil is hazardous for the environment and human being health. Please, try to collect the oil drop off every time in order to avoid this mess. Many thanks.
Don't worry, the millions of gallons glyphosate being sprayed on our Earth are about 3 billion times worse than that little puddle of oil, I don't think it's going to kill the honey bees butterflies and hummingbirds or give people autism
Don't worry, the millions of gallons glyphosate being sprayed on our Earth are about 3 billion times worse than that little puddle of oil, I don't think it's going to kill the honey bees butterflies and hummingbirds or give people autism
Interestingly, the oil actually comes from the ground to begin with. Putting it back into the soil doesn’t seem as bad as say, putting it into a waterway.
@@Hayden734 glyposate dont kill bees, intense monoculture with no forests or plant variety kill bees. and the alternative is plow tge land, much worst for the earth.
I remember back in the 60s and 70s when some people where removing the motors on VW bugs and made a mounting plate to install a C face DC aircraft engine starter motor to the transaxle, they removed the rear seat and put a bank of car batteries in. You might be able to see some information on them from old Mother Earth or popular mechanic mags from back then.
Using the block is quite clever, minimal modification needed to fit in the car. Hell even with a v6 block you can easily mount 2 or even 3 electric motors depending on size and spacing
@@amarjeetsingh-nw4gd, He could have simply tapped the upper oil passages, and installed threaded plugs. He could also install a lighter spring in the oil pump bypass passage, to limit the oil pressure to say; 10 psi, which would be adequate for this purpose ... thus, reducing the parasitic power drain from the electric motor.
im guessing the bearings should last a while as long as there is some type of lubrication between them. In an engine the power comes from the crank which causes more wear to the bearings. In this setup the power is coming from the "cam gear" where the electric motor is. So the crank is just gliding and not producing torque. I would think its similar to when you catch a rod knock so you disconnect the spark wire for the cylinder of the knock so that rod just glides on the crank. Im no expert tho. Just putting in my .02
Main bearings will seize due to heat and lack of lubrication. Still needs a charging system for any range. I’m curious to see it under load... Real MacGyver here, might get you out of pinch then leave you stranded down the road!
That's what I was getting ready to ask... how do they plan to lubricate the main bearings? If they don't it'll seize..... they should have dumped the weight of the engine block and connected the electric motor to the transmission.... oh, and you're gonna need a lot more batteries
@@RockinPapa it takes a functioning Brain to figure things like that out😅 only reason to keep the block is to gain a little rotating inertia from crank and flywheel, and the functioning clutch. Still stupid beyond belief😅
In my country for eg, I would need the engine block so as to keep the engine number that the car was registered with as EV conversions are not possible yet. Cheeky way of getting around stupidlaws
the electric motor is placed directly in the differential that allows more power to reach the wheels and have less weight since you do not use a clutch, the block and gearbox, you would have to open the gearbox and use only the differential, in a Rear wheel drive vehicle is simpler, I never saw such a bad conversion.
That and all the extra weight of the block just to recycle the crank. It's an interesting concept, but lotsa problems down the road with this type of conversion.
No durará, los cojinetes necesitarán lubricación a presión. Debiste eliminar el Bloke, e instalar el motor eléctrico directamente a la caja de velocidades. Es sugerencia.
Es cierto,no lo veo muy factible tampoco creo que resista mucho las poleas y las correas tienden a cortarse. Yo optaria por reemplazar el cigueñal o adaptarle otro sistema para poder aprovechar al maximo el torque que genere el motor
Yo diria que le dejé la bomba de aceite y le ponga aceite con una manguera x entre medio de la planchuela.y le haga una multiplicadora de velocidad y para que no se le termine la batería ponga el alternador y toda la electricidad.
Hay un error. Ahora todo el Torque irá sobre la correa. No va aguantar. Hubiera conectado el motor en todo caso directo mediante engranajes al sigueñal o directo a la caja de cambios, mediante el volante con el embrague
That is solved they will have a boy sitting near the engine with an oil spray and every 15 minutes he drops a little oil. Don't worry, everything is already thought.(:
You could have welded the oil holes on the rod journals. Then utilized the oiling system. The main bearings are going to go bye bye. Good theory though.
Conrod holes and pressure feed to the cylinder head the crankshaft will run dry and seize in this case if it is left like this but very interesting setup anyway
I was in deep rural Mexico when a rod bearing went out. We pulled the head off, took the piston out and cut the rod so the end would stay wrapped around the crank. Put the head back on and reused the gasket. Made it home.
Not sure a cam belt would take the strain for long but like the idea. Would fabricating an adaptor to stick the flywheel direct onto the motor spindle be another option. I have a old rear wheel Ford pop with a bad engine and would love to dabble with EV.
I la lubricacion del sígueñal ??????? Y esa correa como hace para soportar el peso de todo el vehículo ???????? La idea está buena pero hay que hacer una serie de cambios
This is definitely pretty primitive, no machining, there's going to a gear ratio increase from the camshaft sprocket/pulley to the crankshaft sprocket/pulley. theres going to be no lubrication for the crankshaft. accounting for the crankshaft and flywheel weight. there's going to be a serious amount of parasitic energy loss. I would be willing to bet that the electric motor won't be hardly able move the vehicle. but we will never know because the video ended before the project was finished. as far as I'm concerned it's a total fail. it would work much better to make a coupler. right to the input shaft of the transmission.
why wouldn't he just make the motor drive the transmission? whats the point on using a motor to drive a non-functional engine lol. put a custom gear assembly on the motor if needed and just slap it on the tranny.
Coming from mr music authorities. LOL stick to music. We're going to see the next video. And the motor and belt not taking the strain, cause it the higher rpm side or rather the torque comes from the gearing. Remember. 4 gear is 1 rotation to 1 rotation at about 30-40 mph. That not going to break it's acceptable. So 1 gear is like 3-4 to 1 rotation you can hand twist it to get the car moving. But this is a first, and of course it will have faults. That why the next attempt would be better. Talk it cheep.its about doing.
That what everybody doing he testing if playing with gearing he can use the engine manual transmission. If he can it be so much more fun and higher speed for a longer distance. It's a test and creating and learning
He only needs to form a channel underneath his top plate to channel the oil normally fed to the head back down through the cylinder to the oil pan. As one person said the advantage of not direct drive to the motor is the gear selection which is a big advantage if he drives up hills. 2500 watt motor is only about 4 hp. If he could find about a 20hp forklift motor from a 48v forklift he could probably obtain 35-45 mph on level ground. But he gets an A for ingenuity ! I like it!
There is a programme called "vintage voltage", you've probably seen it? Those guys really know their stuff but as brilliant as the end result may be their conversions cost around 50k. Not that I would have a clue but I'm pretty sure that a good starting point is to make sure the car you're converting isn't a heap?
Again crankcase bearing are left out... Oil lubrication of the crankcase is important other wise bearings will give up quickly. An oil pump could have been remained attached to the drive belt and a head gasket could be used to seal the piston chambers with the top cover plate. Lubrication of crank shaft and bearing is important...
Highly probable because rod bearings were disconnected, the oil pressure would be very low. Because the pressure would just bleed off from the holes provided for the rod bearings. Even if you had the oil pump running, and oil in the crankcase. You still have to change the oil occasionally. The motor needs to be connected directly to the transmission.
@@carwashadamcooper1538 IMO electric cars ......yeah...we’re just not there yet, No way to make environmentally friendly batteries No way to charge them environmentally efficiently Yet. So it would have been better if he just fixed the original engine and used the car that way. Modern cars with properly operating emission systems, pollute less than electric cars.
You will be snapping belts like crazy 😜 once inside a car connected to wheels and loaded up,but ofcourse that depends on the kinda power you aiming for 🤔
thats what i was thinking. the belt is built strong enough to turn the cam over with the pressure from the valve springs and a water pump.. no where near as much stress as the weight of a whole car.
@sirkentechnics7099 buddy, I think you should either watch again or learn the parts of an engine before you speak to me any further on this particular video. 🤣
@@AndrewProjectos Yes, it was like a 1960 English Ford. He took the head off the engine, bolted a 1/4 inch plate on top of the block, he bolted a electric motor and a generator beside it. The one pulley and belt went from the electric motor to crank pulley, and tother belt went from the ele. motor to the generator. I was just a kid, that's the best I can remember. He never finished it but it was cool for that time. He was a tinker er.
Está bueno, el problema es que las bancadas del cigüeñal no están lubricadas , a la larga la fricción vá a destruir los metales, habría que ver si con el Carter con aceite y con un salpicador se puede solucionar.
Don't the front and back crank bearings need lubrication? It's a shame that block doesn't have sleeved cylinders, maybe they could be removed and the block could be hollowed out for various components?
In regard to the crank bearings , I’d say if the oil pump is driven directly from the crank as most engines are seal of the top of the block so oil doesn’t spray out fabrication of a oil filler cap or a removable plug or just fill from the dip stick tube job done crank is lubricated ,
Interesting project. Issues with lubrication and torque problems between motor and crankshaft, under load, spring to mind. Perhaps different gear ratios? Would love to try something like this, myself.
Buen dia Esta mui vien tu proyecto y efectivo. Nomas una preguntita donde dejaste la lubricasion del cigueñal ? Xk con el trabajo podria .. bueno se va amarrar ya con un trabajo constante Si te sirve de algo.mi opinion Deverias de dejar el carther con su aceite y la linea de arriba la.ke va hacia la cabeza puedes hacerle u. Tipo de rosca ahi y enroscar una manguera como.la de los frenos k aguante la precion y enroscarla a un costado del carther asi abra lubricasion en los muñones del cigueñan y las bielas nomas cortalas en cuanto sale del muñon del cigueñal para k no se salga la precion por ahi ya ke va tener sus metales ahi. Bueno es mi humilde opinion ya que soi tecnico automotriz aki en sinaloa.
Años de desarrollo e investigacion de ingenieros y el maestro se manda tremenda modificación con un motor de arranque una planchuela una bateria de moto y una correa de tiempo!! .... si las automotrices se hubieran dado cuenta de esta genialidad se hubieran ahorrado muchos millones de dólares en piezas inútiles..(sarcasmo)
cut down the connecting rods reinstall to seal up the oil, you would need to keep the oil system for any longevity. Or machine for roller bearings? Modify to accept a sealed bearing maybe hub assembly. have fun enjoy
Te felicito , pero por un lado no creo que tenga fuerza para mover el auto y por el otro lado , se va a fundir el cigüeñal por no tener lubricación forzada !!!'
This idea is not bad but how about the charging of battery ? and the output from engine crank shaft, would be connected to rear wheel by propeller shaft for RWD ?
ГРМ при заклинивании порвётся, тем самым предотвратит поломку других агрегатов, плюс гена будет питать систему, а так придётся шкиф движка менять, на более длинный и в ремонте будет меньше проблем, станина при том фактически готова и вес переда не изменился, тем самым не придётся подвеску менять, из за облегчения переда, в итоге при боковом ветре перед будет сносить. Поэтому данный вариант менее затратен.
Awesome job. Have you considered cutting a cradle into the engine block so that the motor sits down into it and than running straps over the top to steady it ?
I can see where you're coming from, and it looks like it could work. There are some problems with longevity How long did you run the motor on the engine without any oil and with only 2 bearings? You will run into an unbalance with no pistons on the crankshaft. Running the motor with that gearing will reduce your available torque. If anything it would be a good idea to try swapping the two pulleys (if possible of course). Speaking of torque, how much torque can a timing belt take? How often will you be replacing the belt?
tosdude ... no issue with balance because removing all of the pistons keeps it equal. If he had plugged off the holes in the crank (rod bearings) he could have put the oil pan back on to lube the bottom end. (gasket needed to seal the top side) My best guess is the timing belt will outlast the other components here. The first failure will likely be the electric motor from overheating.... if the battery lasts long enough.
apparently it's a good idea but there are several disadvantages because the engine does not have access to power to drive the vehicle on a slope for example also the inconvenience of lubricating the engine block and the speed.
Great going!, the use of a flywheel should help with power/torque, and maybe use grease on the crank instead of oil, use, or make grooved bearing's to hold the grease in maybe, just a thought.
Hahahahah! I just finished rebuilding a vehical! This was a haliarious comment! Awesome! Sounds like that person might have thought this would be a difficult task! Kind of weird, it's like going over these comments and meetings yet again from years ago! What's that say
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Muito inteligente, não tinha visto ainda desse jeito, a maioria dos vídeos de conversão para motores elétricos, eles colocam uma flange entre o motor e o câmbio para dar encaixe! Parabéns 👏
What i like here is zero fancy tools... hate diy and free make videos with zillions worth of tool. Messy welding like myself though, thumbs up! Concerning lubrication I would slap plate for oilpan with gasket and fill it to level of bearings. This myfriends, will run!
Don't worry, the millions of gallons glyphosate being sprayed on our Earth are about 3 billion times worse than that little puddle of oil, I don't think it's going to kill the honey bees butterflies and hummingbirds or give people autism
Смазка коренных должна быть,хотя б оставить -1,3, и пятую опору коленвала,остальное снять и заглушить,и слабенький насосик масляный,даже думаю пойдёт,как в пилах использовать для смаза цепи,иль может кто и лучше вариант предложит.а сама передача с таким передаточным числом не заслуживает внимания-здесь сделано 2 к 1 му,а нужно наоборот,и так этот эл движке может работать на 6000 оборотах-тогда и пойдёт моща,а на колене тогда в 2 раза больше оборотов и как видим на первичный вал КПП выйдет 12000 обмин ,значит нужно менять шестерни наоборот,и вообще-утопия.
@@Vladimir-Maksimov Есть разные педали газа,на разных принципах устроены-одно дело общее напряжение понижать вместе с оборотами,тогда мощность тяги сразу упадёт,но есть и другая схема-используется датчик оборотов на движке и блок электронный,таким образом при этой регулировке подаётся разное напряжение на якорь и статор,при этом сила тяги не падает,что при 2000 об,что при 12000 об.Такие схемы работают в стиралках с плавным регулятором оборотов.
Buena la iniciativa . Pero en ese estado el auto no se mueve y si se mueve. No tiene variación en la aceleración y se fundirá el cigüeñal y la batería no aguanta mucho tiempo. Pero por algo se empieza. Ánimos!!
How many foot pound's of tourk will it have, in comparison verses without the electric helper motor? And I guess now the idea is, you've made it a hybrid, so better MPG? & It would be nice to see it actually installed, started up, and running, during a test drive, with mileage comparison, and social tourk differences!
That's not all... You 4 get something much more imp. Electrics usually fitted never used to have the advantage of a geared transmission. Besides most of the engine is stripped. And you've got to factored the power steering and easy plug n play here...
@Tim O'Brien why would he run an alternator when he has to charge the batteries to run the car anyway? You could just run all the auxiliary stuff off that same battery, and having an electric motor to turn an alternator will never be as efficient is just using the power from the battery, there's no free energy that way, it will always use more power then it will give because alternators aren't 100% efficient. Maybe a solar panel on the roof would be cool to trickle charge the battery system
It's a bad idea. You cannot expect this motor to drive the wheel with your design (timing belt wheel). Instead try couple the motor with the Clutch assembly or the fly wheel directly.
the way he did it is more of a simple way to do it . i like the idea of using the motor block for the electric motor mounting plate . no need to make any other mounting frame for the transmission or the flywheel to mount the clutch / pressure plate . i like the ability of the clutch. only thing is the majority of crank oil holes will need to be welded and the oil pump assembly put back in for the crank bearings and also a heavier drive belt system .
This is the most out of the box and least expensive conversion I have seen.
For those of us who can’t afford to go buy a new Tesla and just switch bodies I think this is a great video to give ideas!
Thanks a lot!
i saw a car powered by an electric drill - simply ridiculous!!!!
🤣🤣
I've seen some shadetree shit in my day but this takes the cake! How are the main bearings going to get lubricated? Parasitic drag from trying to turn the heavy unbalanced crankshaft.
Beat me to it!
It wont work for more than 10 minutes
That weld would break in a minute.
That is by far the dumbest conversion I’ve ever seen in my life
Hahaha! I think the joke is on anyone who watched this crap
good idea ... but you have to take into account several things such as lubrication of the crankshaft, the fact that the time band is not determined for that type of effort and the engine will keep you turning backwards, that causes the transmission to it is the other way around ... I also feel that you have the ability to move the project forward. I'll be waiting to see it work. good luck
I really like the idea because it bypasses the need for external engine mounts.
The oil pan issue is legitimate and can probably be solved with rerouting the oil pump over the crank shaft bearings.
I recommend replacing timing sprockets with motorcycle chain sprockets.
Engine block has to go. Too heavy.
@@steveakendo8579 no just gott remove the crank and use a straight shaft.
@@steveakendo8579 Pretty sure the block on those Suzukis is aluminum but keeping the original crank isn't the best idea. Esp with no way to lube the bearings.
Ya using the old block is a way to stay away for facing up a lot of other stuff . I would not use to old engen but I do understand y many people do or would
Eu recomendo colocar um eixo completo eliminando as manivelas .......
Good attempt but not without faults as mentioned, enjoyed watching thanks
He did the entire job with crowbar , pair of small pliers and a fork.
And ultra slow hand movements
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Esto no sirve ,,, porque tiene que buscar como se va a lubricar el cigüeñal en una hora mas tardar se va a trancar por falta de lubricación
I join the other comments to insist that the best and worthy conversion is to volt directly onto gearbox either with clutch of you want to keep it or without clutch. Get rid of weight and other technical n mechanical inconveniences. Which motor are you using and what's the price? Good luck.
With using the block you can still use your break assist and your air conditioning
Judging by your engine pulling skills I'd say you're headed in the right direction!
Guys don’t hate, we were all interested in his idea whether we agree if it works or not.. but to the builder, my advise is, if your planing on using this setup there are a lot of cons you may have to overcome before it’s a daily driver.. like you have now, I wouldn’t be as concerned about an oiling system because I don’t see you generating a lot of torque, grease will probably work in place of an oiling system, the belt is so long your gonna lose a lot of torque thru it.. basically if you want to use the engine block, and flywheel, you may have been better off stripping the engine down as you have, and placing your electric motor where your starter was and running it that way, your gonna get more torque there than any other location using this setup, but without starter, you may want to park it in a slight incline for easy take off
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What a wast of time
Great effort, though would’ve been better to see how the bolts are removed and the oil drained first. Also thank you so much for holding the camera steady and not waving it and making me sick from motion sickness like some other videos.
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Good work
Bolts are removed with wrenches
MrCorynick yeah but which bolts, how many, what size, how much room, can it be done with impact drill, does anything need to be supported whilst loosening ..... sheesh!!!
@@Alrukitaf if you can't figure that out on your own you shouldn't be doing this kind of stuff. It wasn't meant to be a step by step guide...
My son had a 1997 Geo Metro four-door LSI that was basically a rebadged Suzuki Swift and I must admit those Suzuki engines are bulletproof very good👍
The G-series are amazing little lumps. The one in my '89 Sidekick has been running with a cracked head since I got it in '09. I replaced the head with one that had narrower cracks (between the valves as usual!) back in '13 and have not missed a beat. I don't know of any other engine that will tolerate these conditions.
Mostly brilliant! Big pulley on motor and small pulley on crank seems like a torque reduction. I'm thinking of how those pulleys could/should be reversed. Big torque reduction means big increase in amperes. Shorter life of brushes. Blocking off oil feed to the head would allow retention of oil pump to lube mains, should this thing hold together!
That belt wont hold the weight of the car
Você tem pra vender o motor elétrico
How is using brushless motor, does it can be the solution for the brush problem?
@@bayuprastyo3902 Brushless motor needs big transistors and a controller to change DC into AC. So yes it would solve the brush wear problem. But then you would need a dedicated cooling system to keep the high current transistors from overheating. This is what goes on inside an actual electric car. Good question. Shows you are thinking!
The crankshaft bearings perform better under pressure and recirculation to prevent bearings failure..how would this be solved.?
Te felicito! Que bien como contaminas todo el suelo con aceite! (Con sarcasmo!)
En mi país le decimos " un pelotudo"
Please,
Make attention!!!
Engine oil is hazardous for the environment and human being health.
Please, try to collect the oil drop off every time in order to avoid this mess.
Many thanks.
Don't worry, the millions of gallons glyphosate being sprayed on our Earth are about 3 billion times worse than that little puddle of oil, I don't think it's going to kill the honey bees butterflies and hummingbirds or give people autism
Don't worry, the millions of gallons glyphosate being sprayed on our Earth are about 3 billion times worse than that little puddle of oil, I don't think it's going to kill the honey bees butterflies and hummingbirds or give people autism
Interestingly, the oil actually comes from the ground to begin with. Putting it back into the soil doesn’t seem as bad as say, putting it into a waterway.
@@Hayden734 glyposate dont kill bees, intense monoculture with no forests or plant variety kill bees.
and the alternative is plow tge land, much worst for the earth.
@@polentusmax6100 how about Back to Eden gardening by Paul gautschi
I remember back in the 60s and 70s when some people where removing the motors on VW bugs and made a mounting plate to install a C face DC aircraft engine starter motor to the transaxle, they removed the rear seat and put a bank of car batteries in. You might be able to see some information on them from old Mother Earth or popular mechanic mags from back then.
Using the block is quite clever, minimal modification needed to fit in the car. Hell even with a v6 block you can easily mount 2 or even 3 electric motors depending on size and spacing
I get it but how long will the crank bearings last.
Exactly what i was going to say.
@@pinballrockstar I was going to say the same.
@Honda 250 well said...will have to block upper oil vents
@@amarjeetsingh-nw4gd,
He could have simply tapped the upper oil passages, and installed threaded plugs.
He could also install a lighter spring in the oil pump bypass passage, to limit the oil pressure to say; 10 psi, which would be adequate for this purpose ... thus, reducing the parasitic power drain from the electric motor.
im guessing the bearings should last a while as long as there is some type of lubrication between them. In an engine the power comes from the crank which causes more wear to the bearings. In this setup the power is coming from the "cam gear" where the electric motor is. So the crank is just gliding and not producing torque. I would think its similar to when you catch a rod knock so you disconnect the spark wire for the cylinder of the knock so that rod just glides on the crank. Im no expert tho. Just putting in my .02
Main bearings will seize due to heat and lack of lubrication. Still needs a charging system for any range. I’m curious to see it under load... Real MacGyver here, might get you out of pinch then leave you stranded down the road!
Its just stupid third world junk
Just overfill the crankcase with oil.
That's what I was getting ready to ask... how do they plan to lubricate the main bearings? If they don't it'll seize..... they should have dumped the weight of the engine block and connected the electric motor to the transmission.... oh, and you're gonna need a lot more batteries
@@RockinPapa it takes a functioning Brain to figure things like that out😅 only reason to keep the block is to gain a little rotating inertia from crank and flywheel, and the functioning clutch. Still stupid beyond belief😅
Steve Wildermuth would the ac and other things work like this?
You should look into, why all manufacturers install electric motors directly to the wheels or to the transmission in automatic transmission hybrids.
Your setup may work but that gear ratio will not give good power n efficiency, do the math
@@fosterraymond my set up? What are you talking about?
Attach flywheel and clutch assembly to electric motor. No need for engine block
The engine block has the flywheel,clutch,and trans already boltable..
Yes an idiot ....the biggest in mechanical world .....
Its a waste to guide him
In my country for eg, I would need the engine block so as to keep the engine number that the car was registered with as EV conversions are not possible yet. Cheeky way of getting around stupidlaws
When u need ac and power steering u needs these pullies
the electric motor is placed directly in the differential that allows more power to reach the wheels and have less weight since you do not use a clutch, the block and gearbox, you would have to open the gearbox and use only the differential, in a Rear wheel drive vehicle is simpler, I never saw such a bad conversion.
That engine block will seize with no oil flow or cooling... not a smart conversion.
How long would the bearings last without lub5
One of lifes lessons !!
All of that extra weight when he could've just made an adapter to go straight on the gearbox layshaft !
This has got to be a JOKE.
This conversion is great for just cruising around town at 1 mph.
Ofcourse once you’ve got air ride fitted and a massive sub
+Bryce VAN DER BYL I didn't see anything wrong with the engine so the car was a running car or at worst repairable.
Qual é o valor de um motor igual a esse ai ?
Vale seu peso em metal
lol
With out a oil system, those crank bearing are going to be wiped within a few miles
Had the same thought!!
That and all the extra weight of the block just to recycle the crank. It's an interesting concept, but lotsa problems down the road with this type of conversion.
If this thing could move an inch, then yes. But you can be sure, that contraption went to the scrapyard right after recording.
No durará, los cojinetes necesitarán lubricación a presión. Debiste eliminar el Bloke, e instalar el motor eléctrico directamente a la caja de velocidades. Es sugerencia.
Vas a tener que eliminar los castillos y adaptar algun tipo de balero o balinera si no lubrica los caskillos se fundira
Ese motor no debe trner la fuerza suficiente para mover el peso del vehiculo
Es cierto,no lo veo muy factible tampoco creo que resista mucho las poleas y las correas tienden a cortarse. Yo optaria por reemplazar el cigueñal o adaptarle otro sistema para poder aprovechar al maximo el torque que genere el motor
Eso por un lado, por otro lado quedó jirando el motor al revés... le quedarán 5 reversas y una para adelante
Yo diria que le dejé la bomba de aceite y le ponga aceite con una manguera x entre medio de la planchuela.y le haga una multiplicadora de velocidad y para que no se le termine la batería ponga el alternador y toda la electricidad.
No sirve para nada, no se va quemar porque no tiene potencia.
Solo sirve para engañar ilusos
Awesome, you always had briliant idea. Thanks for sharing
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Divergence of imagination and ability, I'm not knocking his imagination.
This brings shade tree mechanic to a whole new level.
as someone who does car work under a shady tree I find that term very offensive sir
Wait, so I can probably just hook my battery to my alternator and let er rip!! Lol Cool idea! I love it!
I wanna know how to get three arms with hands bro u blew my mind lol love your channel thank you for your time and effort
Hay un error. Ahora todo el Torque irá sobre la correa. No va aguantar. Hubiera conectado el motor en todo caso directo mediante engranajes al sigueñal o directo a la caja de cambios, mediante el volante con el embrague
This invention would make an extremely good boat anchor.
After few days old engine bearings will damage without oil... Please mention all details
You're right!
Baea kuch nahi hoga
There won't be a second part. This is botched right from the beginning
@@quevicular yup
That is solved they will have a boy sitting near the engine with an oil spray and every 15 minutes he drops a little oil. Don't worry, everything is already thought.(:
Já que o eixo manivela continua no lugar ele vai precisar ser lubrificado nos mancais fixos, para não haver desgaste nos casquihos.
You could have welded the oil holes on the rod journals. Then utilized the oiling system. The main bearings are going to go bye bye. Good theory though.
Drew McNicol
How long is the timing belt going to last carrying the entire load of the car?
Conrod holes and pressure feed to the cylinder head the crankshaft will run dry and seize in this case if it is left like this but very interesting setup anyway
I was in deep rural Mexico when a rod bearing went out. We pulled the head off, took the piston out and cut the rod so the end would stay wrapped around the crank. Put the head back on and reused the gasket. Made it home.
Anything in a pinch. 75% power is better than walking.
Not sure a cam belt would take the strain for long but like the idea. Would fabricating an adaptor to stick the flywheel direct onto the motor spindle be another option. I have a old rear wheel Ford pop with a bad engine and would love to dabble with EV.
Great one. You work with what you have and overtime you will improve it..keep it up
I la lubricacion del sígueñal ??????? Y esa correa como hace para soportar el peso de todo el vehículo ???????? La idea está buena pero hay que hacer una serie de cambios
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Good idea to replace a 44kw motor with a 2.5kw one ?
This is definitely pretty primitive, no machining, there's going to a gear ratio increase from the camshaft sprocket/pulley to the crankshaft sprocket/pulley. theres going to be no lubrication for the crankshaft. accounting for the crankshaft and flywheel weight. there's going to be a serious amount of parasitic energy loss. I would be willing to bet that the electric motor won't be hardly able move the vehicle. but we will never know because the video ended before the project was finished. as far as I'm concerned it's a total fail.
it would work much better to make a coupler. right to the input shaft of the transmission.
why wouldn't he just make the motor drive the transmission? whats the point on using a motor to drive a non-functional engine lol. put a custom gear assembly on the motor if needed and just slap it on the tranny.
Coming from mr music authorities. LOL stick to music.
We're going to see the next video.
And the motor and belt not taking the strain, cause it the higher rpm side or rather the torque comes from the gearing. Remember. 4 gear is 1 rotation to 1 rotation at about 30-40 mph. That not going to break it's acceptable.
So 1 gear is like 3-4 to 1 rotation you can hand twist it to get the car moving. But this is a first, and of course it will have faults. That why the next attempt would be better. Talk it cheep.its about doing.
That what everybody doing he testing if playing with gearing he can use the engine manual transmission. If he can it be so much more fun and higher speed for a longer distance. It's a test and creating and learning
He only needs to form a channel underneath his top plate to channel the oil normally fed to the head back down through the cylinder to the oil pan. As one person said the advantage of not direct drive to the motor is the gear selection which is a big advantage if he drives up hills. 2500 watt motor is only about 4 hp. If he could find about a 20hp forklift motor from a 48v forklift he could probably obtain 35-45 mph on level ground. But he gets an A for ingenuity ! I like it!
There is a programme called "vintage voltage", you've probably seen it? Those guys really know their stuff but as brilliant as the end result may be their conversions cost around 50k. Not that I would have a clue but I'm pretty sure that a good starting point is to make sure the car you're converting isn't a heap?
I love the big spooge of oil when they pry the motor out on the ground.
Again crankcase bearing are left out... Oil lubrication of the crankcase is important other wise bearings will give up quickly. An oil pump could have been remained attached to the drive belt and a head gasket could be used to seal the piston chambers with the top cover plate.
Lubrication of crank shaft and bearing is important...
Highly probable because rod bearings were disconnected, the oil pressure would be very low. Because the pressure would just bleed off from the holes provided for the rod bearings. Even if you had the oil pump running, and oil in the crankcase. You still have to change the oil occasionally.
The motor needs to be connected directly to the transmission.
Yes, I saw that. This build is fun, but useless. I would not want to go farther in it than I want to walk back.
@@carwashadamcooper1538 IMO electric cars ......yeah...we’re just not there yet,
No way to make environmentally friendly batteries
No way to charge them environmentally efficiently
Yet.
So it would have been better if he just fixed the original engine and used the car that way. Modern cars with properly operating emission systems, pollute less than electric cars.
Guys it has the oil pump installed already
@@OkFixer
Bro. One idea
Just remove a. Crank's all bush bearings. And install ball bearings to cranks both end. So no need lubrication....
LOVE the just let the
engine oil soak into the ground thing. ha ha
You will be snapping belts like crazy 😜 once inside a car connected to wheels and loaded up,but ofcourse that depends on the kinda power you aiming for 🤔
thats what i was thinking. the belt is built strong enough to turn the cam over with the pressure from the valve springs and a water pump.. no where near as much stress as the weight of a whole car.
Chain drive
Complimenti per la vostra trasformazione..vero ingegno" 😀👋
It need the other way around, small wheel on elctromotor big one on the crank side, and a high rpm electromotor will work perfectly.
I have to question the strength of ANY timing belt, because driving the valve train seems stressing enough.
He has removed the valves, no valves no piston cups
@sirkentechnics7099 buddy, I think you should either watch again or learn the parts of an engine before you speak to me any further on this particular video. 🤣
Oil directly into the soil, well done!
Stupid trying to save the world with electric drive while spoiling ground water
No... He wants to eliminate grass
Where do you think the oil came from??? He's recycling...
The assembly of a new electric car is probably worse for the environment than that little dab of oil
Looks good but you should consider the oil bien on the soil that is very contaminated
Y así paraque sirve?. Y cómo se mantienen lubricados los cojinetes del cigüeñal? Se van a fundir.
No sirve para nada. Es una perdida de tiempo
Los carbones del motor támbien
Este foi o projeto mais real e mais interessante que ja vi, parabéns mano, muito bom mesmo.
Também gostei. Simples e, parece que funcionou
Bacana mesmo.
Poderia montar o motor elétrico dentro do bloco do motor a combustão, mas terá que fazer o enrolamento do zero. Eliminaria a correia
My dad did something like this back in the early 70s,he used a English Ford.
Really?
@@AndrewProjectos
Yes, it was like a 1960 English Ford. He took the head off the engine, bolted a 1/4 inch plate on top of the block, he bolted a electric motor and a generator beside it. The one pulley and belt went from the electric motor to crank pulley, and tother belt went from the ele. motor to the generator. I was just a kid, that's the best I can remember. He never finished it but it was cool for that time. He was a tinker er.
Está bueno, el problema es que las bancadas del cigüeñal no están lubricadas , a la larga la fricción vá a destruir los metales, habría que ver si con el Carter con aceite y con un salpicador se puede solucionar.
Don't the front and back crank bearings need lubrication?
It's a shame that block doesn't have sleeved cylinders, maybe they could be removed and the block could be hollowed out for various components?
Dont know if he put tha crank case and oil back into.if not in the first 20 minutes gonna be locked cause main bearings dry..waste of time..
Чего?
I like that idea
In regard to the crank bearings , I’d say if the oil pump is driven directly from the crank as most engines are seal of the top of the block so oil doesn’t spray out fabrication of a oil filler cap or a removable plug or just fill from the dip stick tube job done crank is lubricated ,
I like you friend comet ferfect
Interesting project. Issues with lubrication and torque problems between motor and crankshaft, under load, spring to mind. Perhaps different gear ratios? Would love to try something like this, myself.
Buen dia
Esta mui vien tu proyecto y efectivo. Nomas una preguntita donde dejaste la lubricasion del cigueñal ? Xk con el trabajo podria .. bueno se va amarrar ya con un trabajo constante
Si te sirve de algo.mi opinion
Deverias de dejar el carther con su aceite y la linea de arriba la.ke va hacia la cabeza puedes hacerle u. Tipo de rosca ahi y enroscar una manguera como.la de los frenos k aguante la precion y enroscarla a un costado del carther asi abra lubricasion en los muñones del cigueñan y las bielas nomas cortalas en cuanto sale del muñon del cigueñal para k no se salga la precion por ahi ya ke va tener sus metales ahi.
Bueno es mi humilde opinion ya que soi tecnico automotriz aki en sinaloa.
De cuantos caballos es el motor que instalaste?
Años de desarrollo e investigacion de ingenieros y el maestro se manda tremenda modificación con un motor de arranque una planchuela una bateria de moto y una correa de tiempo!! .... si las automotrices se hubieran dado cuenta de esta genialidad se hubieran ahorrado muchos millones de dólares en piezas inútiles..(sarcasmo)
cut down the connecting rods reinstall to seal up the oil, you would need to keep the oil system for any longevity. Or machine for roller bearings? Modify to accept a sealed bearing maybe hub assembly. have fun enjoy
Use clutch without. Engine block
What a nice step I need full video of how to convert it from petrol engines to electric motors engine
Y como lubricas los bearings del cigüeñal?🤔
En minutos se clava todo
Hola , que motor es ese que usaste ahi ? de que artefacto es o para que se usa , o donde se consigue ?
Te felicito , pero por un lado no creo que tenga fuerza para mover el auto y por el otro lado , se va a fundir el cigüeñal por no tener lubricación forzada !!!'
Así de simple no hay lubricación. Necesitaría poner baleros en el cigüeñal. Sustituir por un eje con baleros .
es mas eficiente conectarlo a la caja y asi le da mas potencia por q se ahorra el tener que mover el cigueñal
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La.Technologia.AutoMotriz.
Pero.Sonar.No.Cuesta.Nada.
Sin contar el sistema de frenos que necesita una pression de empuje porque si no quedaria como una piedra el pedal
This idea is not bad but how about the charging of battery ? and the output from engine crank shaft,
would be connected to rear wheel by propeller shaft for RWD ?
проще сразу к кпп прилопатить,коленвал отнимет энергию да еще и без смазки не долго будет работать
ГРМ при заклинивании порвётся, тем самым предотвратит поломку других агрегатов, плюс гена будет питать систему, а так придётся шкиф движка менять, на более длинный и в ремонте будет меньше проблем, станина при том фактически готова и вес переда не изменился, тем самым не придётся подвеску менять, из за облегчения переда, в итоге при боковом ветре перед будет сносить. Поэтому данный вариант менее затратен.
Интересно, через сколько времени работы без смазки шеек коленвала на них на мотает вкладыши?
умница! правильно сказал.а все ето видеё бред сивой кобылы в лунную ночь.
Я ему ещё розетку посоветовал купить, а то на аккумуляторе долго не приедешь))))
@@НильсКлаус а на генераторе, который остался.
А кто вам это мешает сделать, вам дали идею или всё пережевывать обязаны, тогда обезьяна умней окажется, нежели человек.
@@Vladimir-Maksimov зделать что? Смазку на колено??? Эта конструкция не стоет того чтобы над этим заморачиваться !
Excellent work, atleast you built something unlike those lazy guys who only criticise.
Awesome job. Have you considered cutting a cradle into the engine block so that the motor sits down into it and than running straps over the top to steady it ?
...ratchet straps........🤔🤣😂
I love how you guys are just as much shade tree mechanics as I am
I can see where you're coming from, and it looks like it could work. There are some problems with longevity
How long did you run the motor on the engine without any oil and with only 2 bearings?
You will run into an unbalance with no pistons on the crankshaft.
Running the motor with that gearing will reduce your available torque. If anything it would be a good idea to try swapping the two pulleys (if possible of course).
Speaking of torque, how much torque can a timing belt take? How often will you be replacing the belt?
tosdude ... no issue with balance because removing all of the pistons keeps it equal. If he had plugged off the holes in the crank (rod bearings) he could have put the oil pan back on to lube the bottom end. (gasket needed to seal the top side) My best guess is the timing belt will outlast the other components here. The first failure will likely be the electric motor from overheating.... if the battery lasts long enough.
@@rupe53 Ah that's interesting , i also assumed out of balance with no pistons !
apparently it's a good idea but there are several disadvantages because the engine does not have access to power to drive the vehicle on a slope for example also the inconvenience of lubricating the engine block and the speed.
Toda la energia derrochada por: rozamiento, vibracion, desgaste, peso, calor etc.
Lo dudo que llegue a funcionar antes que te quedes sin 🔋😬👍
I am going to try this for sure.thanks
Oil into the grass isn’t OSHA approved lol
Who cares about OSHA, it will dissolve after we are dead anyway
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Good work and good music 1
Simple practical .
In other words.. made in India
Very good idea friend thank for idea
Man that was environmentally friendly, dumps 5 quarts of motor oil on the ground. Nice!
My first thought seconds ago
And release ac gas in the atmosphehere
Back where it came from
Great going!, the use of a flywheel should help with power/torque, and maybe use grease on the crank instead of oil, use, or make grooved bearing's to hold the grease in maybe, just a thought.
I now know exactly how not to tackle such a project thanks to this.
Hahahahah! I just finished rebuilding a vehical! This was a haliarious comment! Awesome! Sounds like that person might have thought this would be a difficult task! Kind of weird, it's like going over these comments and meetings yet again from years ago! What's that say
Para tocar lancha. Seria bom
@@nathanmciver6496 zzzzzzz
this project will not run long, main journal bearing of the engine will be easily broken/worn beacause there is no oil running in it..
@@JMaster12 if they sealed the top of the deck off and maintained oil pump it could have a chance, but even then ify
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Muito inteligente, não tinha visto ainda desse jeito, a maioria dos vídeos de conversão para motores elétricos, eles colocam uma flange entre o motor e o câmbio para dar encaixe! Parabéns 👏
Nice project 👍👍👍
Wasting too much of that precious energy turning useless engine parts instead of direct transmission Drive
The crank will still need oil.?
@larry ballard You think he'll sell that ???
exactly, not to mention the entire engine & transmission torque falling directly on that poor timing belt.
I think once the momentum is attained the crankshaft is a plus.
How much downward torque is on the piston connecting rod, is it equal to the timing belt? How do you install a timing belt tensioner too?
Dream big and go all the way dude
Without oil pressure in crankshaft bearings it wouldn't work for a long time...
Using a straight metal rod instead of a crankshaft and sealed ball bearings instead of oil-bathed flat bearings could extend its life considerably.
If the oil pump is in front cover drove by crank it will have oil pressure
Well done. But how is the crank shaft going to be lubricated?
This timing belt used, cannot pull the load. Motor should be installed directly with the flying wheel
helps with weight as well.
correct
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What i like here is zero fancy tools... hate diy and free make videos with zillions worth of tool. Messy welding like myself though, thumbs up! Concerning lubrication I would slap plate for oilpan with gasket and fill it to level of bearings. This myfriends, will run!
Maybe a little respect for the earth would be good! The ground shouldn’t be used as a sponge!
Don't worry, the millions of gallons glyphosate being sprayed on our Earth are about 3 billion times worse than that little puddle of oil, I don't think it's going to kill the honey bees butterflies and hummingbirds or give people autism
@@Hayden734 Before they invented Round Up, we use to mix kerosene with used motor oil and use it for weed and grass killer.
@@charlesaanonson3954 and I'd rather 100 gallons of that than one gallon of Roundup, search dr. Stephanie seneff glyphosate and you'll see why
Great idea although some flaws are obvious to the trained eye, but it will work !!!!!
Смазка коренных подшипников должна быть!
Зачем нужно это устройство?
По идее оставив в поддоне масло и заблокировав подачу его к распредвалу должно работать )))
Смазка коренных должна быть,хотя б оставить -1,3, и пятую опору коленвала,остальное снять и заглушить,и слабенький насосик масляный,даже думаю пойдёт,как в пилах использовать для смаза цепи,иль может кто и лучше вариант предложит.а сама передача с таким передаточным числом не заслуживает внимания-здесь сделано 2 к 1 му,а нужно наоборот,и так этот эл движке может работать на 6000 оборотах-тогда и пойдёт моща,а на колене тогда в 2 раза больше оборотов и как видим на первичный вал КПП выйдет 12000 обмин ,значит нужно менять шестерни наоборот,и вообще-утопия.
@@valb1896 а разве с помощью педали газа нельзя уменьшить обороты до 900/1000 и при нажатии увеличивать 3000/6000/12000.
@@Vladimir-Maksimov Есть разные педали газа,на разных принципах устроены-одно дело общее напряжение понижать вместе с оборотами,тогда мощность тяги сразу упадёт,но есть и другая схема-используется датчик оборотов на движке и блок электронный,таким образом при этой регулировке подаётся разное напряжение на якорь и статор,при этом сила тяги не падает,что при 2000 об,что при 12000 об.Такие схемы работают в стиралках с плавным регулятором оборотов.
Buena la iniciativa . Pero en ese estado el auto no se mueve y si se mueve. No tiene variación en la aceleración y se fundirá el cigüeñal y la batería no aguanta mucho tiempo. Pero por algo se empieza. Ánimos!!
This way is actually pretty clever, the two downsides are the weight of the original motor and not having oil to lubricate the crankshaft bearings.
How many foot pound's of tourk will it have, in comparison verses without the electric helper motor? And I guess now the idea is, you've made it a hybrid, so better MPG? & It would be nice to see it actually installed, started up, and running, during a test drive, with mileage comparison, and social tourk differences!
So much dead weight. Just build an adapter plate directly to the transmission
That's not all... You 4 get something much more imp. Electrics usually fitted never used to have the advantage of a geared transmission. Besides most of the engine is stripped. And you've got to factored the power steering and easy plug n play here...
@Tim O'Brien why would he run an alternator when he has to charge the batteries to run the car anyway? You could just run all the auxiliary stuff off that same battery, and having an electric motor to turn an alternator will never be as efficient is just using the power from the battery, there's no free energy that way, it will always use more power then it will give because alternators aren't 100% efficient. Maybe a solar panel on the roof would be cool to trickle charge the battery system
Its a great idea but how do you get round the lubrication to the crankshaft?
Grease.
Sem lubrificação as bronzinas do fixo vão fundir e travar o virabrequim
Y la lubricación del sigueñal , los metales de biela se quedarían sin aseite????
Perdón de bancada k pasaría con eso sin lubricación.
It's a bad idea. You cannot expect this motor to drive the wheel with your design (timing belt wheel). Instead try couple the motor with the Clutch assembly or the fly wheel directly.
the way he did it is more of a simple way to do it . i like the idea of using the motor block for the electric motor mounting plate . no need to make any other mounting frame for the transmission or the flywheel to mount the clutch / pressure plate . i like the ability of the clutch. only thing is the majority of crank oil holes will need to be welded and the oil pump assembly put back in for the crank bearings and also a heavier drive belt system .