Palestinians: If Israel left the West Bank and Gaza, would there be peace with Israel?
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The young people don't want the two state solution and the old people are sick of the violence and want peace. That is what I observed.
Of course that's gonna be the case. The old people are tired and broken from the years of oppression and they don't want their children to go through the same shit. But the younger ones will still fight for their rightful cause. The progressive initiative is not stay low and take whatever garbage the occupation might throw at you but to fight for a better chance of living.
Many of these people have lost loved ones due to police brutality or settlers aggression which frankly explains their extreme views.
@@mohal-sal3998 No they just know the cause is bullsit.
@@mohal-sal3998 so lets do this, give the land of israel to the arabs, and expell every arab from europe and usa china etc. make sense to u mate? i think u have no clue about history tho. even in the quran it said this is the land of the jews. what do u know mate.
@@dminusflamingo7168 Arabs aren't conquering European countries for themselves they are living there following rules if those countries. Very different than Israel who performed Aliya came there. The Ottoman Empire allowed them they could buy lands trade. And after world War with countries weak around they rapidly developed their military and conquered expelled people living there. Called people of their religion from around the world, settled them. There is no comparison of such around the world. Mind you they did it with the help of so called secular countries.
Even the Palestinian Christians were expelled to make way for the Jews that would arrive from all over the world.
So they have no claim for peace because they never came is peace they always came to conquer and want to like peace and everything just for international appeal.
@@kasimshaikh3750 I don’t think beheading people in France is following the rules of the country. 🤷♀️ Western nations have tolerance for criticism of their leaders, their religious leaders, etc. and do not respond by decapitating people. Do you honestly believe Islamic beliefs and Western culture are compatible? Serious question.
As an Israeli who has voted consistently in the past two decades for left wing pro peace parties, this is seriously depressing. My assumption always that a compromise is possible, and no amount of blood is worth any peace of land - that there is a possibility of having two prosperous nations side by side, which respect each other. This video raises serious question marks over that - If Palestinians will never accept any solution where Israelis are still here, what am I expected to do? My grandparents were born here, all my family was born here, where are we to go? What other option do they leave us other than to use our power to protect ourselves? What reason should I have to continue to vote for parties that support a two state solution? So sad
The main reason that we got now this generation of ignorant an bizarre people is our running after Arafat all 90sand 00s. Nobody to blame but our own orthodox fanatic leftists. If only we could have patience for 1 generation of "iron wall" they will forget about tel arabije quickly and come with peace initiatives
@efopo In which way?
And what's your opinion in these days, if i am allowed to ask?
I think by starting to reduce oppresion and move toward softer approach, it will take time.. but keep believeing, these people had bad experience with Israel, so it is correct it their mind what they want to do, I won't even blame them if they want to kill Israelis, but that will not bring peace, both side need to know and take step back and propose a solid peace plan, Israel might need to concede a little, but for peace why not?
@@diawannotonot even, 2005 pullout almost igniting civil war and was done in hope and in good faith look how it was repaid. it got worse.
As an Israeli it is so depressing to see that there is no peace in the foreseeable future
@Pez Domino Yes, conflicts are so easy nowadays aren't they?
or just stop oppressing palestinians. if israel stopped violence and oppression, there would be peace. there was peace before zionism for hundreds of years
Many innocent Palestinians were killed and tortured in many ways.. children, women and men.. and even denied to leave the borders.. Then after all that you can't really expect them to say yes we forgive you.. I am glad you hope for a peace solution, but when citizens support such governments.. other citizens would become against those citizens :l
@@Fro.113 ignorance is bliss
@@Fro.113 "there was peace before zionism" LOL Jewish was chased out of Judea & Samaria before Islam came in. Didn't know violence against Jewish is peace for Muslim,
It seems clear to me that a majority of Palestinians don't want to live in peace as long as Israel exist. That makes any solution impossible. It's irrational and stupidly stubborn, but it also clearly demonstrates the root of the current situation.
should the Jews have made peace with the nazi$, it's very understandable why they would hate Israel
Who destroyed the peace at first? Ist normal majority Palestinians said that, because what the have been suffering for more decades under Israel's atrocities and oppression. In nakbah how many innocent Palestinians dead and displaced because Zionist colonization. It's normal that they said that, they won't forget what had happened to them. Peace do not made by oppression , murder and dehumanize. Peace comes when it knows how to treat human being
@@rezazulaa who destroyed peace first ? The Arabs did ! (Multiple times). The first started with a military coalition of Arab states at midnight 14th may 1948. And since then, Arabs (Palestinians) has seeked revenge over their lost ones from every single of their attacks and aggressions. But the truth is, if you instigate a war and loose, you have no right to seek revenge, because you started it yourself. It all repeated itself in 1967, where ALL Arabs were attacking the Jewish state from ALL sides and were ALL BEATEN in just 6 day's. Any muslim that believes in God's will, should perhaps take that as a sign from God !!!. And yet they still continue their aggression to this day, allthough any religious person can see who's side God is on.
A lot of Palestinians live peacefully in Israel side by side With their Jewish neighbors and has done so for decades. But you don't hear about them. You only hear about troublemakers that feels badly treated or complaining over Palestinians being arrested for attacking Jewish citizens. If only Palestinians changed their hateful attitude, they could live peacefully and prosperous. Unfortunately it's their own fault, when they choose hate and complete intolerance instead. You hear in this interview, they DON'T want to live peacefully with Jewish people.
A majority say's, that they want ALL israelis gone (dead). This is why, this interview reveals the true cause for all Palestinian suffering.
I think interviews like this are actually a better window onto the core issue that a million news reports, books, or academic papers. The Palestinians have never been able to sign onto a "two-state" solution because their leaders know, deep down, that the people aren't really with them. I think Israelis probably figured this out about 20 years ago, but the rest of the world hasn't really caught up yet.
a one state solution is possible. allowing the right of return, ending the occupation, creating an equal state with equal opportunities and equal protections, these are all ways that have yet to properly be tried that may create peace in the future. why would peace come simply from no longer occupying the palestinian enclaves that are the west bank & gaza? palestine is still severely divided, palestinians are still being heavily persecuted, palestinians are still unable to go back to their home countries. this act alone is not enough for peace.
The scary thing is that the younger generation who grew up since Oslo who went to schools run by the Palestinian Authority have much more extreme views than the older people in this video.
One of the cornerstones of the Oslo agreement was that both sides were supposed to educate towards peace, this seems to be proof that the PA did the exact opposite.
Not necessarily, young people are more fiery. When I was younger I used to hope someone would start something with me, now not so much.
Both sides has done the opposite
@@alikhalil2475 no. young Israelis are way more moderate and liberal than the older generation, as the overall trend worldwide.
They were to govern together and has combined schools. ,, You should read the Trueman Papers and all the Items that Israel had to agree to for statehood.
Michael Sedley actually no talking to many young Palestinians myself I can tell you that many want peace all of them have said the same thing “fuck hamas and fuck Iran.” I have no idea where your getting your news from but actually talk to the new generation Palestinians and they will paint a different picture.
It seems that only older generation of Palestinians is ready to make peace with Israel. That's so sad because usually it's the younger generation that decides people's future.
efopo Great points so as the older generation dies off this problem will get worse.
its because they dont buy into their own made up stories, the younger generation are not aware of the fact that the older generation actually made up that whole "palestine" thing to get israel.
@Alex Sunderland u stupid mate ??
@Alex Sunderland HAHAHA Lol, u are indeed!
@Alden Buyer As soon as they understand there is a world outside the cradle where they laying in. injecting the poison starts.
conclusion: there will never be peace out there, just periods of lesser violence and more intense violence.
Or temporary prehostility...
There will be peace, in the end gaza and Palestine will be just a trash dump in my opinion
@@alexdaniel3043 You're a real intellectual with your two first names.
Until the Israelis eventually will have to leave. Spreading injustice will come back and the Israelis will probably go back to diaspora I believe.
@@abyyman1671 and who will make them to? Right now nobody in the block have a stronger millitary 😂
It's amazing how all these people point to Israel's treatment of Palestinians, while completely failing to mention Hamas' treatment of Palestinians, the very government they elected for themselves.
this is west bank
hamas doesnt control west bank
@@anywaytechreview
though Hamas was born and started in the west bank and had some cooperation with the PLO (though they were far from complete allies).
@@RKTGX95doesn’t change the fact that they don’t control West Bank
Right who control's food, water, electricity fuel,internet communications, security, military law,permits to leave, calorie rationing, sabotage peace processes, kills them, annexes and steals land.75% of peoplecrely on humanitarian aid with barely an economy. It is barely liveable.This is Israel doing these not Hamas
@@anywaytechreview Despite rampant misinfo found on the internet even from supposedly reputable news orgs, Gazans actually didn't elect Hamas, Hamas wasn't even on the election ticket. The PA enacted 80% taxes on Gaza Strip residents only(on top of Gaza never having been wired for electricity and the PA refusing to help them... whereas the West Bank got electricity in 1923). This caused Gazans to immediately reject PA rule over them. Gaza attempted to break from the Palestinian Authority and hold elections, but the Palestinian Authority flat out rejected their rejection of PA rule and also their election results. It was actually the West Bank who elected Hamas, and then with Israel's help the West Bank invaded the Gaza Strip (the actual Gazan election winner managed to finally wire the Strip for electricity in the very brief period after winning and before the PA invaded).
It used to be all the terrorists were from the West Bank, Israel literally imported the terrorists to the other side. Israel did this with the intention that Israel would one day have reason to invade Gaza and drive its' inhabitants into Egypt, which they didn't have before because Gazans were pretty chill with Israel, unlike the Palestinians in the West Bank. Even though both sides were technically Palestine, they were like 2 completely separate worlds for decades, until Israel saw opportunity for more beach front property if they exacerbated Gaza's issues with how the PA treated them and then back the PA in not letting Gaza be autonomous. Before that, most the people in the Strip had relatives in Israel that they were separated from by the partition, Israelis used to come bonfire party with Gazans on the weekends in the 70s and early 80s, they'd just bypass the Eretz checkpoint by sand buggying in on the eastern side of Gaza because there was no wall back then. But when Israel allowed people to mass migrate from the West Bank(despite there being no unowned parcels of land in Gaza for those people to legally move to) the relationship between Israel and the Strip changed real quick after that.
Summary of the survey's majority of the public: "we would forgive them and stop trying to kill them if they stop existing"
No, they are saying that they should go and exist somewhere else. Big difference.
@@annelid4728 Ethnic cleansing. Pure and simple, this is exactly what they are saying.
@@interestingyoutubechannel1 But that's how Israel started, with ethnically cleansing the inhabitants. Sow the wind...reap the whirlwind. I don't wish either of them bad, though.
@@annelid4728 Actually Israel started with offering Arab inhabitants full equal citizenship. Please show me a single mainstream Palestinian Arab nationalist politician who offers this to Jews. The villages that were driven out beforehand, happened as consequence of the Arab-Israeli war which was, for Jews, a war to prevent our entire annihilation, no exaggeration (after having survived recent attempts elsewhere).
@@annelid4728 "should go and exist somewhere esle"
That what Hitler said
Sometimes I get a feeling like people are quick to blame the strong and support the underdog, without even trying to understand which side is the problematic side
True then and true now
Hits hard especially now
They are also forgetting that the Jews were severely the underdogs and made the choice to become strong and survive. Yet somehow they are STILL the underdog given that the world thinks it's OK for Gaza to shoot rockets at Israel day in and day out. Has anyone condemned the fact that rockets have become part of Israelis' daily lives?? And in previous conflicts started by Gaza Palestinians, Israel was never allowed to see it through to the end. Israel IS a victim and it is only by sheer will and determination that they still exist at all. If Israel had followed everything that was asked for by, say, the UN, and other "humanitarian" nations, they would have been exterminated a long time ago.
As for those Jewish students who are living their best Life in America, SHAME ON THEM! And why are their parents & older generations allowing them to be brainwashed against their own people?? They are persecuting their own. 😢
This. Almost always we nurture the dysfunctional and weak, but it's rarely a good idea because we perpetuate dysfunction and weakness.
The truth is that they knew from previous conflicts with the Israelis that they killed and expelled them in 1948 and then they presented many peace and 1967 borders, so do not expect them to believe what he says about false peace, because they have the right. right. The right to defend their land.
Israel already left Gaza. And there is no peace
Yeah but still occupied, they can’t build airport or port, they can’t control their borders, Actually Gaza now is a big prison.
Mahmoud Abu Halawa Yes it is with Hamas terrorists as the prison guards!
@@solvingpolitics3172 ops israel have they will never leave omg they want expand
DartLuke actually not, look at the Situation there
@Noam Bitton we see how its going on for west bank without hamas
sad what it takes to prevent these israelis from setteling on their land
The thing that's so depressing is that "how can we forget all they did to us", that sentiment is kinda implying that they didn't do anything wrong themselves, like starting the initial war in '48, starting the 6 day war, starting the first and second gazan war, all the bus bombings they did, all the rockets shot towards israel from hamas, the recent massacre, etc, etc, etc. A lot of what the conflict is today is their own making.
@valizeth4073
You came in as refugees escaping from European brutalities, they took you in, and then half of their land was forcibly taken by you.
To divide them further(by the admission of your leader) you actually funded "the bad guys who shall not be named" to rise to power. Which they did in 2006. then after they did, you drove all their leaders abroad and prevented further elections from 2006 till now. Then you surrounded the area with the densest population of them and cut off their connection to the outside world by making a deal with Egypt and providing them with limited rations, as you pocketed off the rest. You claimed they conveniently blew off their own power plant. So you had to step in to provide them with electricity as well.
You've jailed actual infants and kids and anyone you got your hands on, you've also attacked the other part that didn't elect "the bad guys"
You have done so many atrocities, that only 10% of their entire population remains. And now you want them to not fight back at all. just unalive themselves in their jail cells.
No a lot of the conflict was not their own making.
How can there be peace, when the stronger party doesn't want it?
How can there be peace if you can just claim a random attack and provide no evidence for it as you go on full revenge mode against the other party?
How can there be peace when the stronger party is just pretending?
Read history books okay, no actually just look at your own life. If say parents wanted a harmonious house, while the kids keep fighting, who achieves their will?
If it was the other way around, the kids want peace, but the parents keep making problems, do you think it's doable?
Open your eyes. The stronger party enforces its rules. If they wanted peace, they would have gotten it. What they want is an excuse.
For real. And when you look at the propaganda fueling the pro palestinian sentiments among western people its full of historical inaccuracies and mistruths.
Yes but they would never admit that it's their own doing.
@@maryanndeweerd2570Ah yes, but if they did that, then they wouldn’t be able to play the victim mentality card anymore. They would actually have to take some responsibility for their actions.
@@lowbeatzz7742 exactly 💯
They have rejected a two state solution FIVE times. Famed diplomat Abba Eban said “ they never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity”
Robert Malley (part of the Clinton camp) disagrees. Indeed, Schlomo Ben-Ami (Ehud Barak's camp) said he wouldn't accept Camp David if he were a PAlestinian.
and palestine rejected 5 times of Israel preace treaty lol
Its totally rational for palestinians not to accept splitting their country into two, when previously it has been Palestine for hundreds of years. This is stealing territory basing on a fact that it was "Israel" thousands of years ago, which is a poor excuse. This is modern colonialism.
@@burek9657 But sometimes you can’t get back in time. I am german and we lost half of our land but accepting treaties for peace will build a better world.
@@burek9657 But I see you point of view
I went to college in the U.S. which had a strong social justice culture, and the majority of people had very liberal views. As a leftist, I tended to agree with people on most issues, but as an Israeli it never stopped bothering me how they viewed the Palestinian cause as parallel to other movements for equality like the civil rights movement, in that they saw the Palestinians as fundamentally peaceful people trying to free themselves from an oppressor. Clubs like Students for Justice in Palestine and Jews for Justice for Palestinians hosted lectures and activities which constantly reinforced this (false) narrative. Because of it, many Americans in my school had in mind that if Israel simply 'ended the occupation', there will be peace. I used to argue with them that it is not what the Palestinian people want, only for them to disagree with me as if it is a subjective matter what the Palestinians want. I wish I could show them this video.
@nature giver I get what you're saying and that was also a large part of the rationale for leaving Gaza. The problem is the West Bank is much closer to Israel's large population centers. There are millions of Israelis living within 15 km of the West Bank! Even if a miracle happens and Fatah maintains power after we withdraw (current predictions are that Hamas will take over), there will still be outlaw groups shooting rockets and sending incendiaries across the border, which will be incredibly deadly for the Israelis, and also for the Palestinians in the reprisals that are sure to follow.. We are currently maintaining a relative calm there which is widely considered to be better for our safety than withdrawing.
@nature giver I don't think so. Even the incredible iron dome system has a 90% success rate at its best, and it is dealing with rockets coming from a very small area going in certain predictable directions. Shooting down rockets coming from any place in the massive West Bank and going to any of the dozens of population centers would be impossible given today's technology..
Michaelas10sk8 you disagreed with them because u knew a fact, since the whole left is based on fantasy, bullshit, irrationality, feelings, etc I’m sure if u knew other facts about other ‘“issues’” you wouldn’t have been a leftist.
u are not a leftist, u are a fascist tinged by leftie esthetics
@@ArashArchangel I doubt it. I do think that some of the recent social justice movements have these irrational elements (e.g. the belief that unequal outcomes among different races or genders are always the result of unequal opportunity or racism..), but it would be foolish to think that simply because some people have a position for irrational reasons it means that the position itself is wrong (also a common fallacy I see a lot nowadays, from both left and right). I can give you logical arguments you would probably see some validity in for most of my positions. Any in particular you're interested in..?
Interesting that it's the older people who seem more accepting of peace between 2 states.
Sam Roscoe Scary, it should be the other way around.
@@solvingpolitics3172 Ideally both would want peace! Maybe the old people have grown tired of the conflict, having lived through it for so many years.
The older folks im guessing , lived and mingled with israelis as before 1992 , there were almost no terror attacks or PA and therefore no roadblocks.
I think they didn't understand the question
they are more reasonable .
If Israelis are able to share Israel with Israeli Arabs why are Palestinians so incapable of sharing their state with Jews? There is something missing in this conversation -- the intolerance and bigotry of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza, the overall hatred towards Jews in the Muslim world. Hopefully they will grow.
We left gaza ten years ago and look at the mess hamas has created
look at how west banks keeping their land without hamas
settlements for settlements until theres no west bank left
@@jonwright4418 You're right bro this brainwashed people never understand islam is cult
@@AbuBakr.Abdullah Israel occupies less than 1% of the Middle East but that's too much according to the PA Hamas, Islamic jihad and Al quds martyr brigade THAT'S 4 pro Palestinian political terrorist groups within the borders of Greater Israel Inc West Bank and Gaza. There are no such historical people called Palestinians. Israel wasn't established in 48 it was re-establish. JUDEA and SAMARIA is where we are from.. it's such a difficult situation for all of us but we are never going to leave. Thank you for commenting.
@@gmanrapsnasty My dear God... the people of Palestine (the non-existing people according to you ) happened to live there when Zionist appeared. That 1% was already taken. They don't want the 99% that was not theirs, they want the piece that belonged to them. And nobody gives a hoot who lived there 2000 years ago.
@@annelid4728 take a look at Yassa Arafats biography he states "if there is such a people called Palestinians it is I who invented them". Through out the last 71 years numerous leaders middle Eastern hardliners Inc Assad senior publicly stated "remember Palestinians were invented as a political tool to use against the Zionist Jews" in the quran no mention of this land being linked to Palestinians. Jerusalem is mentioned 63 times as the home of the Jews. Ps 14 million people will tell you it does matter 2000 years ago
I'm sure others are thinking the same, but unable to put it in words: It's absurd how the world goes on and on about how Israel is the main obstacle to peace for not giving the Palestinians the entire West Bank and Gaza. It's absurd that content like this exists and gets shared, but not noticed and acknowledged. Content which you would think would be the missing proof that Palestinians will not accept peace even if they got "their" two-state solution. And I put "their" in quotation marks, as it is not they, the Palestinians, who want the two-state solution-it is the world which blindly clings on to an illusion of a simple black-and-white solution, in which there's one bad side and one good side. The big and powerful and the easy-to-love underdog. As frustrating as it is, it's not more complex than a lot of people not being able to live with the fact that things are not black and white; that there's not always an easy solution; and that the underdog is NOT always in the right just because he is suffering.
"the underdog is NOT always in the right just because he is suffering" Why was israel created already?
@@Megaspinosaurusrex "Not always in the right" ≠ "Never in the right"
@@JohnTheStun So palestinians are right. I'm not saying they sould go to war, palestinians have suffered enough, but I understand their feeling
@@Megaspinosaurusrex How did you get that from my last comment...?
So today there are 10 mill Jews and 2.5 mill Palestinians in West Bank.How do you see Palestinians getting the whole land back????? Just curious.
If they would completely leave then yes we will agree to have peace with them... With WHOM? With air? Smh 🤦♂️
@@luanlopes9415 it was a trouble example
@@luanlopes9415
Lies and propaganda from the taqqiya practicing muslim, as expected.
The more they get, the less peace there is until the world ends.
@@luanlopes9415 learn history first
@@luanlopes9415
What the European and arab countries did the jews ? They killed and expelled them during 20th century. Today just Marrocco accept the return of the jews. The jews was in arab countries before islam and christians. By the way 20% of muslims lived in Israel with full rights, before states of Israel in the british mandate, the arabs also massacred jew's and destroyed their homes, most of "palestinians came in end of 19th century, like lot of jews" arafat was Egyptian.
This conflict is not about land. It is a conflict born out of hatred for Israel.
It's very much the same thing in their minds
Where was their hatred for Egypt when Egypt controlled Gaza or their hatred toward Jordan when Jordan controlled the West Bank?
They have the right to hate those who made their lives hell - they just happen to be Jewish
@MsBhappy yes all of the people in this video were clearly alive during that time (sarcasm)
Israel is made to be hated
Delusional people. They brought misery on themselves.
Menc Vibe Yes, but with being brainwashed
by their dictators since birth they never had much of a chance!
Definitely. But it is not for the Israelis to pay the price, I would say.
Not enough of it.
Right, the Arabs have chosen violence for 100 years, this is where its got them, now they have become professional victims.
Should the US support/fund/propagandize and arm Palestinians as much as they do the Israeli/US military base? If there are dozens of bombers flying over a helpless people then maybe Palestinians should have at least as many bombers and guided missiles right? Ask an Israeli colonist if they could survive without being a US military base? Ask an Israeli colonist if they are the most sadistic/fascist colonial project in history. Of course Palestinians are going to be nicer people, they have more dignity because their existence doesn't depend on a sadistic colonial project. But the west has given their ruling class and plutocrats the moon and the stars so many Israelis have a relatively higher standard of living so they don't want to give up what they have no matter how sadistic. If you see this can you give me a sign, I think some of my comments are being censored. Unfortunately there is a lot of censorship and their is a lot of "promoting" of propaganda.
Right after World War II there were two separate efforts to recognize and accommodate the right of a vulnerable religious minority to self-determination in the form of a sovereign state, as follows:
(1) To accommodate the right of Muslims to self-determination in the Indian subcontinent, the British partitioned India by creating a new country, the Muslim state of Pakistan, despite the vehement objections of Indian leaders such as Ghandi and Nehru; and
(2) the UN produced, a plan to partition the area west of the Jordan River to accommodate the right of Jews to self-determination by creating the state of Israel despite the objections of Arabs and Muslims.
The creation of Pakistan resulted in the shifting of millions of refugees (Hindus and Sikhs from Pakistan, and Muslims from India to Pakistan), and in the deaths of several hundreds of thousands and perhaps even a million people.
The creation of Israel, or at least the war started by the Arab states who rejected the UN plan, resulted in a far lesser shifting of population and loss of life than the creation of Pakistan. 70 years later, the Hindus and Sikhs forced out of their ancient homelands to accommodate Muslim self-determination have for the most part moved on, and almost no one protests the massive disruption of population and loss of life that accompanied the creation of Pakistan and the accommodation of Muslim self-determination. However, some people who accept that disruption as a necessary cost to achieve Muslim self-determination view the much smaller disruptions necessary to accommodate Jewish self-determination as an unthinkable crime.
Jews have lived continuously and without interruption throughout the Middle East for approximately 3,000 years, and there were Jewish communities in places like Morocco, Tunis, Algeria, Libya, Egypt, Israel, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Yemen, and Iran hundreds of years before Islam existed. Hundreds of thousands of Jews from those countries were forced to flee those countries when the State of Israel was created. Those who deny the right of Israel to exist as a Jewish State in some tiny slice of the Middle East, but accept the deaths and refugees created by the Partition of India to create the Muslim State of Pakistan, are being very selective to the point of hypocrisy.
Absolutely!
I think the two situations are quite different. When talking about the partition of India and Pakistan, the local population voted to be in either Pakistan or India. These were the people of that land. But with Israel, most are immigrants from all over the world and the local population is Palestinian. It's like refugees coming into your home and then demanding a separate land. My grandparents from all sides immigrated from Bihar to Pakistan. They were as Indian as any other Indian but they chose to migrate to a place that would protect them from religious discrimination. I personally know a relative who used have a life of luxury with elephants and horses and palaces and after he immigrated to Pakistan, he now lives in a simple house living a lower middle-class life. They could have stayed in India, same with hindus that migrated to India. They could have stayed in Pakistan. but they chose not to. This is a very different situation where foreigners are demanded their land on the basis of religion
There is no difference. Because jews are not foreign to the land. You can say "oh it was so long ago" but they are not native to anywhere else. People were never covering to Judaism en masse that's been debunked. Conversion to Judaism is arduous and many follow the Torah because their ancestors were persecuted for their following the Torah which they did because their ancestors were persecuted for following the Torah which... on amd on back to kingdom of judeah in modern israel+gaza+west bank which was taken from the hebrews by the ancestors of the Palestinians the romans.
Palestine are the colonizers unable to accept the fact that the jewish ppl refuse to be victims and have won.
@@erich6071 Judaism is a religion not a race and hence European Jews who converted cannot claim to be native. Also, it still doesn't give them the right to kick people out of their land
@@areeshamudassir5412 Correct. Judaism is a religion. It's the religion practiced by the Jewish, or Judean, people. Jew/Judean is a nationality. Guess where Judea is.
Very depressing but at least we hear them talking truthfully what they think of peace, without the manipulation that is going on in the media today on the conflict.
Truthfully ?? really? You know what fear is ? fear to speak that is. They will never ever admit in front of a camera. You have no idea about their rulers, PLO and Hamas. Complete executioners
Only a few are courageous to say at least they believe in a future
Exactly my thought, Iris
@@vvestaasw They do have the option of speaking anonymously
@@aaronmeyer9618 Film is not anonymous.
They are afraid to be caught anyway. They don't trust anybody, not an Arab nor a Jew
Swedy Senior he's filmed anonymously in other videos
I've watched a lot of interviews with Palestinians and came to the realization that there would never be peace in this region, especially since October 7. Palestinians don't want peace. This is a sad but inevitable situation.
It's amazing how they cannot even comprehend the question. Peace is so far from their minds.
Because its their land.
If someone took my land, killed my whole family, took my home and basically just everything from me then i wouldn't be for peace too tbh. Just imagine it. Israel is claiming that this is their land but they can't mention what thed did in the past to get here.
I agree. I noticed that “peace with Israel” and Israel’s complete destruction are somehow not mutually exclusive to these people. Talk about double-think.
@@TheBrass18 it's not tho. Not even close. These people can't even name who founded their alleged country.
@@kaleidoscope3234 they are indigenous to the land.
It's very sad to see most of those people cannot even imagine peace. I have no clue how to deal with that.
It's easy, they will kill eachother eventually or run there own economy to the ground, there is no need for Israel to do much, they do most of the damage to themselves, just look at Gaza, they had a coup and a civil war in just two years and the PA has been sanctioning there own kind in Gaza for a decade now, Israel just has to sit back and watch them destroy eachother, like Syria
Oskar Dumanski Where are you from Oskar?
@@solvingpolitics3172 Does it really matter?
@@arashkborzoo Easy?! What about those people, who said there would be peace? What about children? Can you stand on the other side watching how they suffer and are exposed to brainwash process? What Syria has with that?
Oskar Dumanski It was a friendly question. Trying to understand your perspective.
I was curious about one of the interviewee's assertion about Tel Aviv originally belonging to the Palestinians and as one might expect, that appears to be a completely false propaganda point: "The city was founded in 1909 by the Yishuv (Jewish residents) as a modern housing estate on the outskirts of the ancient port city of Jaffa (Hebrew: יָפוֹ Yafo), then part of the Jerusalem province of Ottoman Syria."
@joseph adel We had independent kingdoms here centuries ago and there was always a Jewish population here. Jews started coming as Zionist pioneers in the 1880s, where the Arabs (since nobody identified as Palestinian) didn't accept or reject us, they watched and occasionally stole from the Zionist pioneers as they bought land from Arab landowners at hugely inflated prices and redeveloped it. The local Arabs didn't care for the Jews, relations started getting violent in the 1920s though.
@joseph adel
A) Yes it never was. But Jews were the majority for centuries before Arabs came.
B) Palestinians are almozt all Arabs or descended of non Arab Muslims such as Turks, Kurds, and Bosnians.
C) Actually there were plenty of Sephardi/Mizrahi Jews interested in a Jewush state. When Zionist pioneers began arriving in the 1880s it was local Sephardi Jewish communities that have them financial support. Tons of Jews from Arab and Muslim countries also immigrated alongside the European Jewish immigration waves.
D) Pretty much every genetic study confirms Ashkenazi Jews have singinficant Semitic ancestry in addition to European ancestry. You people who deny it just look ridiculous at this point.
E) Pretty much no Jews identified as Palestinians aside from some radical Haredim and far leftists in the modern day. In the 1880s local Jewish communities were helping Zionist immigration. There are Christian Palestinians though.
F) Palestine was a primarily European used name what was then Ottoman Southern Syria. The British renamed it Palestine after conquering it. That's what Europeans had referred to it as before.
G) Yes because again that's how Europeans referred to Ottoman Syria at the time.
H) Yes and it was local Jews who welcomed them. Arabs were mainly indifferent. They weren't even in charge of handling immigration the Turkish authorities were.
I) No, Palestinians have some genetic similarities with Jews, including Ashkenazi Jews, because we're all of Middle Eastern descent but genetic studies on the remains of ancient Jews show that the closest modern population to the ancient Jews are Iraqi Jews, not Palestinians.
@joseph adel Really? That's all you got? I have evidence if you want
@joseph adel FYI: Absolute Jewish majority in Jerusalem existed by the end of the 19th century
JLP444 and another thing: Lands were purchased in accordance with Ottoman Law prior to settlement. Tel Aviv included.
There is no Palestine as a nation, never was. It started as a Roman province and they gave it its name. Since then the arabs there have been ruled by many different nations. They have never existed as a nation of their own. That area isn't theirs, never was.
Wow that girl smiling while speaking of no Israel made me so uncomfortable...
Believe me your are not only speaking for yourself
She is a mindless barbaric drone who has slipped through the cracks of ethical behaivour. In the game Mass Effect she would be a Husk.. a mindless drone of indoctrination.
Me too..it was so cringy. And sad..
She reminds me of a female Nazi guard of a Death Camp
Comparing someone who lost their lands to occupyers from europe and wants it back to nazis is unthinkable
This is very depressing indeed. Seems like these people do not realize that almost all of us Israelis were born here, and have no other place to call home. I do recognize the human suffering of the Palestinians, but it sure seems they are unable to accept the fact that Israel basically started as a big refugee camp. My grandparents fled on a rocky boat from Italy to Israel, just to be arrested by the brits and locked up for 2 years. My father, a loyal Jewish Egyptian, fled from Egypt as all property belonging to Jews was confiscated as a revenge for the Jews building up their homeland. They were practically being thrown out of Egypt to Israel. The 1948 generation of Jews and Palestinians went through hell and are responsible for hell. But as long as Palestinians cling to the past and seek no solution that can include both narratives, they will continue to lose and that's sad. As one generation comes and goes you will find less sympathy and less understanding to the claim of the Palestinians as they are rooted in this land far more the Palestinians can imagine. We are moving on, building an amazing country (far from perfect) and so is the world. It Seems like we will all have to wait 100 more years for the narratives to catch up with each other. Until then we should all learn at least to be less violent to each other while we try to find a solution to a problem previous generations have created for all of us.
Okay quick background and some advice as a Israeli Arab what ever you call this I support Israel’s but I think the should leave Palestine, and go to America the land of the free
Eran Cicurel well said!!
@@useruser-xu9ht The world doesn't want Jews in it, so where are the Jews to go?
@@SubscribetoEndTheLGBTcommunity And they can't build a homeland with all that wealth, it seems. Reminder that the National Socialists you idolize worked with the Zionists.
blacktigerpaw1 I don’t idolise Nazis , just be honest jews are almost welcome everywhere in the West. Trumps daughter is jewish
"It's not Tel Aviv, it's Tel Arabiya" 😂😂😂 I laughed so hard.
Edit: apparently she said Tel Al-rabi3 which is a literal translation of Tel Aviv, still funny tho.
Lol seriously! Tel Aviv never existed prior to zionist. Who the heck told her it's really Tel Arabia?
@@sjgee4309 100 years Tel Aviv was a sand dune but it was founded by Japheth a son of Noah a few thousand years before PALESTINIANS were invented by Arafat in 1964.
You see, no matter how many times Arabs aka Palestinians try to fool themselves, there are those who know and check facts of history.
Facts are STUBBORN and refuse to be rewritten to suit Arab conflicting narratives.
"It's not the West Bank it's Judea and Samaria" always makes my day 😁
@@wikalein in capitals. JERUSALEM, JUDEA AND SAMARIA
@@avi3860 You're funny kid. Go wipe your A s 😁
They want the whole land for themselves and ending up with nothing.
Well done...
@@CharmingMountain Actually, they bought the land. The original Israeli territory was all acquired by Jews. The rest of it was won in wars.
channelin your problem is that you think it was a Palestinian country, and it wasn’t, it was part of the Ottoman Empire.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_land_purchase_in_Palestine
@@anna-jh7zy Yeah they bought the land allright, with children's blood...
@@CharmingMountain I don't know what is your connection to the conflict and if you spread this silly comparison on purpose or because of lack of understanding. Nobody took arabs houses, nobody needed them, nobody live in arab houses today.
Arabs built and developed only tiny part of the land, they could stay in their homes (literally) and be rich minority while jews are building their state (as League of Nations decision). They don't waned to be minority and decided to fight till the end. Read the biography of SS war criminal Haj Amin al Hussaini to understand what is ""till the end".
Anyway, their houses were ruined, parks, roads and new cities were build instead. So nobody live in "their houses". Find better comparison.
They had the land to themselves. Who divided it.
Israel left Gaza completely in 2005: is there peace? Case closed.
No it's still opened
Israel didn't "leave" Gaza, Hamas kicked them out
@@anon-iraq2655 Israel left and the Palestinians elected Hamas.
@@anon-iraq2655 Hamas isn't even close to being able to do anything to a military giant like Israel.
@@mugivamv3396 yes, but they constantly hurt the people of Gaza
That was very, very depressing.
Yeah, the vibe lacks hope
It's hard to believe that hope is the reason for suffering, maybe by destructive expectations, such as globalism as ideology
Hope is a very prosperous & overcoming element in life's tragedies and & path to success
Depressing they have the will to hold onto their lands? I'll take Palestine over Moshiach and Noahide law
@@JeffinBville FROM WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE THIS TIME THE XIANS ARE BEING SLAUGHTERED BY THE MONSTER HUMANOIDS. AS FOR THE JEWS, THEY NOW PROTECT THEMSELVES BUT NOT SO FOR U XIANS UNLESS THEY LIVE IN ISRAEL.THE ONLY FREE COUNTRY IN THE LEVANT
Israel : we want peace and ready for 2 state solution
Palestinian: no peace with israel it's all ours
The world: it's Israel's fault
When the Palestinians say “End the Occupation!” the world hears “Israel get out of the illegal settlements!” without realizing that in most cases they think Tel Aviv is an illegal settlement.
When Israel said 2 state solution ??? After captured Palestinian land Israel is want to capture west bank and illegal settler's are settled in west bank and occupy Palestinian houses go to sheikh jarah the you will realize stop killing Palestinian .
Palestinians didn’t kill Israeli babies , Palestinians didn’t demolish Israeli houses , Palestinians didn’t detain thousands of Israeli children
@Edwin Luciano Frias because it is
The nazis said the same to Poland
What the girl with green hijab described is defeat and unconditional surremder not peace, and looks like she havent noticed but her nation is on the defeated side of the conflict.
The war is still going on, don't count your chickens yet.
this is what low iq looks like
John Doe it will end up all lands to israel
@@geevarghese201 i think so too, they better split into 2 states
her nation isn't defeated, they lost the battle not the war, they're still there and they still can make war
what Jews don't understand is that you can't go "lol you lost the battle now your property is ours now give peace"
Thanks for showing the obvious, it's not about 67 it's about 48,now leave Israel alone!
its about 1917
it's abt 300000k BCE when Homo sapiens emerged you guys
@@amineaboutalib its all about the mammels.....!
it's about 70
@@AbuBakr.Abdullah LOL 102 years already. Give it up.
When you see and hear here, this sense of denial or exclusion of the existence of the other part, you may not wonder why walls are built higher and higher at the borders.
One problem with this question: Israel already HAS left Gaza. No soldiers are stationed, and Sharon dismantled and destroyed any Israeli settlements that were there 15 years ago. The only Israelis that are in Gaza are the prisoners that were captured.
Well, they're back in Gaza now, although not by choice.
They want them out from the river to the sea
@@henryramosmercado2857 That's right, they're not content with only one Jew-free area... 😒
Israel controls the airspace, land borders, maritime borders, electricity, water and decides in detail which imports and which exports Gaza is allowed to do. Gaza has no self-determination at all, enough with your lies.
@@noahii7577 Pretty generous of Israel to unilaterally withdraw all their "settlers" (even though there had been an ancient Jewish community in Gaza for many years prior) and then agree to supply power and water to Gaza. What happened in response? Hamas turned it into a military base and started lobbing rockets into Israel. Enough of your false moral equivalencies here.
There are no Jews left in the entire Middle East, outside of Israel. The reason why? Because of pogroms. You can count the number of Jews on one hand in most Middle Eastern countries.
Q: you know what happens to be most countries when the start a war of extermination and territorial expansion and they lose? A: they lose. The Arabs tried to un-alive the Jews in 1948, they tried again in 1967, and now they are still trying. If Israel had lost either of those wars the number of Jewish people would go to zero, just like it has in every other country in the Middle East. Enough with your moral false equivalencies. You throw around the "G word" without reference to the fact that the Palestinian population has grown tremendously since 1948 and without reference to the Arab Israeli citizens who chose to stay rather than flee in 1948.
So why do Arab allied coalition leaders and United Nations (UN) all keep taking about a "Two State Solution", when Palestinians themselves don't want any "Two State Solution"!!!
channelin
You guys keep using this “how would you feel if I come to your house and claim it’s mine”, but for some reason you keep forgetting that rich jews actually paid for this “house” and now the Arabs are the ones who got the money but refuse to give the lands in return...
So who is the criminal here?
@@CharmingMountain Its more like "How would you feel If my grandfather sold his home to yours, and now I come and want the house back for free"? lol
Very good question. As an Israeli I can tell you we arenot surprised. "Speaking peace " is a Big Fat Lie that Palestinian leaders sell the Europians and Americans while their ppl just want us killed.
They dont really need or even want those parts of Israel.
Youre mostly too lazy to watch old movies of this land but if you really want the truth watch. Youll be surprised what a deserted land this was all sand and stones. The only ones who changed this place to a modern vibrant country are the pioneer Jews who returned here to nothing to. Rebuild the glory of the days of king David and Solomon his son, our ancestors. There were almost no arabs living here 100 years ago. Its all one big lie
@@CharmingMountain Nobody take seriously this demagogue. Your house is your, but it doesn't mean everything in radius of 1000 km around it is automatically yours too. Arabs are entitled for souverignity on the territory they build and developed as well as jews have to be souverign on the territory they build and developed. This is the basic, only undeveloped areas can be divided. There are still enough lands to develop, but arabs do not them for some reason. They want TelAviv.
@@CharmingMountain your house? since when did it become yours? your grandparents were laborers working for the Turkish absentee land owners from the time of the Ottoman Empire. If you have proof of ownership then show it to the Israeli authorities and they will compensate you very generously for what you lost and if you do not have any proof then you are a LIAR! as usual from the time of Moha-mad liars... that is in your religion. Yassar Arafat proved that it is still in your blood. so if you cannot prove it then STFU.
The older generation are more accepting of peace. As for the younger generation in the video that couldn't have much more depressing. And oh yeah Israel has left Gaza.
Also the reason why today there are a lot more terror attacks comitted by palestinians citizens
Because younger generation facing problems from Israel .
Israel left gaza but is blockading it so they can control what Palestinians in gaza can get
what if Iranian proxies (Hamas or others) LEFT the West Bank and Gaza !?!?!?!??????????????? that would be wonderful
the sad truth is then israel would start building settlements in gaza
If not iranian , then aqap or isis or hamas , and when those will go away then communism will come.... sadly folks there still look for a utopia and those ideologies will use it against them.
@C caymer That's what tense the jew , Those 80000 brought big demographic and pro - arab sentiment which is bad for khazar .
@@Zinogg your are so right! if jews will leave the ME. there will be peace in SYRIA,LIBYA,YEMEN,IRAQ,AFGHANISTAN,SUDAN, did i forget anyone?
so your saying if it wouldn't be for the jews muslims will stop kill each other uhh?
@@danken1796all those countries had USA/west involvement to protect isreal and they divided nations to fight each other,just like british empire did, it's a known fact so yeah if jews leave the ME, peace will slowly starts to come back that if the west don't get involved directly or indirectly like it's happening now.
The girl with the green hijab who answered your question is clearly showing the sad reality of the region. I wonder if the Arabs who settled in the West Bank and Gaza even realize that the West Bank and Gaza and Hebron, etc. we’re all part of Judea for thousands of years and we’re the home of the Jewish people and Christians and other people. The areas are the home of many people who should learn to get along and halt this childish bickering and fighting. It is sad to see how much prejudice and hatred exist in this region. Tragic how the Arabs living in Gaza and the West Bank raise their children and grandchildren to hate. They need to look in the mirror and recognize this terrible tragedy. Because they are perpetrating hate and violence and war and ruining any chance for peace in the region.
you are nagging
I agree with. Palestinians don't want peace. Thousands of years ago they jeews disobeyed God and as a consequence they endure colonization, oppression and many more. Now instead of Muslims this from this history of the jews. They just went down the same way. Palestinians and a Muslims as a whole they will never know peace not only war I mean. I mean from natural disasters to oppression and war till they Go back to true Islam. At the moment majority of Muslims worship their scholars/and clerics who make the laws for them.
So basically, the Palestinians will accept peace only if Israel stops to exist, and all the Jews gone or dead,
sorry to break to you, dear Palestinians, never gonna happen,we are here to stay. and don't make mistakes it's our land, and it written in your Koran , so for God sake read it, and think (just a little) before you talk.
search how israel country start. u will know why palestine say like that.
@@kuneda777 Palestine is the name of Israel West Bank and Gaza Strip before 1948...the people are called Palestinian compromised of both Jews and Arabs.. The Arab single it out for Themselves in 1965 as a national identity by an Egyptian name Yasser Arafat because they have none.
@@emanueltawtah6561 palestine was never a country. nice try though
muslims and peace are mutually exclusive
@@kuneda777 israel start in self defence war in 1948 after those arabs try to destroy israel.
I'd be very interested in hearing responses to "What country does NOT belong to Muslims", meaning what place or countries can reject/expel Muslims because it is not "their land" (similar to how they accept Jews should leave the WB or Gaza because it is in their eyes, "Muslim land".
Will they accept that Sweden is Swedish land and that Muslims have no basis of existing there? How about Europe in general?
I believe it could unearth a cognitive dissonance and highlight the unattainable framing of these replies.
The world is divided to "dar el harb" and "dar el salam" in islam....
Lost in Hilbert Space “Islamists, (not all Muslims) won’t be satisfied until they have the whole planet. By then we would all starve!
@Ganga Din yea came coming up with shit.
The right of Jews to self determination in Israel is not connected to if the land is Muslim or not... it’s historical right and it doesn’t matter if Muslim or Christian living there it’s still israel right
U ar right, muslims can be dilusional and entitled, while playing victims. But your comparison Is not fair, this Is not a religious conflict, it's a conflict of two peoples fighting over a land. Religion can play a role, but to make it religious conflict entiry?? No. Also, I dunno about muslims wanting to found they own state in
Europe, like a Kurdistan in Germany (there ar millions of them). If anything, extremists want sharia low, but not a national state on their own. There's a difference between migration and integration, and taking over.
When it was founded the State of Palestine and by whom
What were its borders?
What was her capital?
What were its main cities?
Who was its basic economy
What is her government's response?
If you can name at least one leader before Arafat?
If Palestine has ever been recognized by a state whose existence at one time or another
What was the language of a Palestinian state?
What was the common religion in the state of Palestine?
What was her nature?
Since there is no such state today, what caused it to be destroyed? When did this happen?
>> If you can name at least one leader before Arafat?
Mohammed Amin al-Husseini
did i win?
i think palestine is a descendent of the pelest people who settled in Gaza region after failing to attack Egypt around the time when Israel took the land of the canaanites
@@alspezial2747 the Philistines have their roots in the Aegean islands,Europeans after DNA analysis not Arabs
@@alspezial2747 Origins of the Word Palestine
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Ha you are part of the problem you want to dehumanize us to continue killing innocent people in the name of religion. What a joke when you do things like this you will never get peace. ruclips.net/video/p0dQVA5vwwo/видео.html . There was no Israel before 1947 so I don't subscribe to your propaganda.
Just to make it clear, Israel has offered 2 states solutions during Barak and Olmert times.
Israel also wanted to give them east Jerusalem as their capital.
The Palestinians not only said no, they didn’t made any counter offer.
If the world wants peace, it should stop setting more and more pressure on Israel, and instead - start to pressure the Palestinians side on just saying YES.
(Egypt accepted Israel after 1973 war, and got back a land that is bigger than Israel itself)
That’s it.
If Mexico took over west USA and then offered them a two state solution would they accept? No because it’s their land why would they give it up?
@@meee6584 The Palestinian-Jews never wanted to take over the Palestinian-muslims land. But the Palestinian-muslims decided not to share (more than equally) and started a war. Israel had to defend itself and take over those places in order to keep it citizens safe.
Guess the Palestinian-muslim should have never started war(s)
@@madafakajones6809 they still wanted to take some.
@@meee6584 no they didn’t. They literally gave up everything for peace. Check the history book.
@@madafakajones6809 did they not want an Israeli state? And on what land? Palestinian land
Israel left gaza in 2005 and there is no peace.. why bother asking?
@Sami Seif There is no land blockade, Erez Crossing to Gaza is open for transport of goods from israel (even though it should be closed until the jihadis will stop shooting rockets, but israel is stupid to care about people that want them dead), not to mention the small fact they have a border with egypt, a fellow Arab country last time i've checked. their is also no such thing as an air blocked, Palestinians use their air space all the time to send fire-starting kites across border to Israel lmao... the only thing you got right is the sea blockade but that happend only in 2007 when hamas came to power and threw Fatah members out of off the top of the tallest building in Gaza, ignored all PA previous agreements with israel and strted shooting rockets into israeli towns. so what do you think Sami? that israel will let them have free accesses to iranian weapon shipments while they shoot rockets into israel, so they can have better missiles to kill israelis? google "Karine A" if you really interested into knowing why there is a sea blockade. either way point is there was no blockade for 2 years before the terroirsts took power, so whats your point? israel left in 2005 and didnt get peace, they got hamas in 2007 and more rockets into israeli towns every fucking year. Before hamas, people of gaza would have enter into israel for work by the hundred of thousands every day, why do you think that change? you people are delusional.
@@abuesab97 They have a border with Egypt. Talk to them.
@Nir Hakimian To be a Nazi, he'd have to be on the side of the Zionists!
@Sami Seif
Blockade is not "occupation" but a legitimate tool of defense in the time of war. Beside this the Gaza border with Egypt is not under Israeli blockade.
@@stephenobrien6983 to be a free thinker must be of the side of the idiots. 🙄
The name Palestine came to be used in the 2nd century AD, before it was called Kingdom of Judea and Israel. There has never been an independent state called Palestine, it was always a province from different Empires. Jews were refugees for almost 2000 years, they both have the same DNA Jews and Palestinians, even the Quran says that the Jews are Natives of the land. Both are Natives of the land, but if these people live in denial, if they want a one state solution they should forgive, love, be inclusive and share their land. But I guess they are million years away from being that self aware.
Now I understand why all the 2-state solutions in the past have never been accepted by Palestinian leaders. If any part of Israel remaining is included in the deal, the people will not accept it.
Corey and his Palestinian translator think the Palestinians would take a deal that only include the 1967 lands. That the Palestinians can’t or won’t say it in public but that a two state solution could work.
They discuss it here:
ruclips.net/video/QEf7jb5Bccs/видео.html
@@edwinlucianofrias1643 thanks. I'll check it out.
@@edwinlucianofrias1643 So the viewers should not believe the "palestinians" who say in their own words that they want the ethnic cleansing of Jews and destruction of Israel, but should instead listen to the delusions of Corey and his sympathetic translator?
@@cecil123 there is already ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. And Israel never gave the right to return. It's a disgusting state.
It might have a lot to do with this type of behavior from Israel. ruclips.net/video/p0dQVA5vwwo/видео.html
This is proof that the “settlements” are not the obstacle to peace. It’s the stubbornness of certain people.
Exactly that’s why I don’t have any sympathy towards them
I'm israeli and take a pro israeli stance. The settlements are not helping the situation.
@@lc2014 Becuase they fighting for their rights and land?
@@TheBrass18 🤡
@@TheBrass18 They're not fighting; most people are going about their daily lives.
In short: _"There_ _will_ _be_ _peace,_ _if_ _all_ _Israeli's_ _are_ _gone,.._ _somehow."_
With this mentality Palestine will be as peaceful as Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Somalia, .., .. and no masters degree in game theory is required to determine how much sense it makes to compromise with counterparts having this mindset.
Or maybe it would be like Jordan
They're right. Have you seen what 'israel' has done on American soil?
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@@ammarally3055 have you been to Jordan, have you lived in Jordan? I wouldn’t exactly call it peaceful.
@@nofinn1044 Better than the countries America has ruined
They don't strike me as the brightest bulbs.
I cannot understand how you can both feel opressed by someone and at the same time demand from them to remove themselves. My brain just cannot process this. Its as if diplomacy or a compromise doesn't exist in their thinking. Its as a if big mascular guy approached you and you thought he wants to beat you up, but he would say no no its ok we can be fine but your response would be: Oh no actually we cant, we will be ok only if i beat the shit out of you and you procced to start kicking him and then cry every time he punches back. This is Palestian. So sad.
It’s all in the education system. When you learn this from day 1, how could you ever believe anything else?
Notice how the older folks in these videos are more accepting of Israel and want to live alongside them. They know the price of war because they have lived through it.
Well, you can hear that Corey is mad himself when asking the questions.
This video is infuriating. As an Israeli watching those videos I have become more right wing than before. Those videos show me that the Palestinians don't even recognize my country and are not willing to make peace whatsoever.
The land is theirs in their opinion, all of it.
We will never leave the land our ancestors built. "Am Israeli Hai", "ein li erets aheret". "עם ישראל חי, אין לי ארץ אחרת" - The people of Israel are alive, I have no other land.
This video has served a important purpose. It shows once and for all that peace is not possible with the Arabs.
It's time to do what is best for the Jewish people.
Sovereignty over Judea and Samaria is the next step.
Israel is the nation state of the Jewish people
AM YISROEL CHAI ISRAEL LIVES
@nature giver Leaving = more terror attacks.
As simple as that
@nature giver Are you Israeli?
@nature giver Well, it's your opinion.
@nature giver Since you don't live in Israel, you don't know that the two state solution means the destruction of Israel.
A plestinian state means more terror attacks, more rockets fired at citizens, more stabbings of citizens etc. A paledtinian state is not an option.
Israel was simply too kind . They don’t realize the land given was a gift after they LOST THE WAR !
And then people wonder why we have such a giant problem here. Ask every Israeli if they want peace, and I guarantee you they all do. Every single one.
@@mohannadqa5101 really? God gave the land to the Jews. Even you, the Muslims know this
@@itzik52 since when does god distribute land to people
@@OliveLebanese the UN does
@@benfriedman4358 What about the british they deserve recognition
Many Palestinians want peace too but what are the odds of Israel leaving the West Bank and lifting the embargo on Gaza? Exactly. Zero. Actions speak louder than words, Israel has not intention of peace. How is annexation peace?
I'am a Palestinian but i dont agree with the sentence ( it's just our land ) it's all god's land , if we were here before anyone else that dosent mean that only us got rights to live here!
I strongly vote for the 2 state solution
I hope we can live in peace one day and I can shake your hand
You r minority less than 10%
U are right !
Lands belongs to God, and all the humans are equal and should have the same rights !
Wael Alkhalil I wish more voices were like you. If you would like to talk please contact me on my channel & I will get you my email.
All the best to you!
Veritas Nocet Et Foedari They hold themselves back! Only third world countries spend their time blaming: U.S., Israel, Western civilization. Successful people don’t care what adversity you throw at them, they just achieve!
Man this is depressing. Most of these Palestinians wouldn't accept peace unless Israel completely disappeared, and EVEN THEN, some people say that they wouldn't accept peace for the "things Israel has done to our people". This is lunacy.
Just to remark how much ignorant is this people, Israel left Gaza in 2005, eighteen years ago.
This doesnt get anywhere near enough views. But I was happy to see it on MEMRI and elsewhere around the net. Well done Corey!
I love how they think that Israelis will just leave the place and all the things they did will now just belong to them.
Nobody said that.
Thanks, I can write off losing sleep over wondering if more land for more peace would work.
The more I listen to these "Palestinian" videos the more I move in this direction, I wish there was a pew poll or something like that on this question to get a concrete idea of what % of "Palestinians" actually support peace.
@@TheSpiritof76
From these videos we can see that not a lot of Palestinians support peace, they don't even know what peace means.
Captain WeebMaster Their dictators will never allow it. They would have to run a country which they can’t. They would not be able to blame Israel for all their problems and most of all Palestinian cowardly billionaire dictators would not have international aid money to loot anymore. They like the status quo!
@efopo
A lot of Palestinians have said that even if Israel leaves, they still would not accept peace.
So, no, they don't know what peace means.
Bottom line is that they are deceived and they get mad because no one else thinks like them.
Firing rockets, *unprovoked* at their enemy (700 rockets in 24hrs, on the Sabbath during the holy month) is not peace.
@@solvingpolitics3172
Correct!
Very logical solution - they accept peace with Israel if there is no Israel at all)))
It's sad to hear many of the views of the younger people on the video. I bet if you offered a deal for a two state solution on the 1967 borders, the Palestinian leadership would snap your hand off. But it seems the Israelis are right that any deal would only be viewed by Palestinians as the first step in acquiring something better down the road and not as an end in its self. Thank you by the way for posting these videos. It's virtually impossible to actually hear Palestinian voices and opinions in the mainstream media.
The younger generation went through different education system and television, has less interaction with Israelis than the older and is swayed by social media.
ehhhh, not really. That's exactly what Ehud Barak offered in June 2000 and they rejected it and started the second intifada two months after.
@@williamyohananlavi9598 I'm sorry but that's a misrepresentation of what happened. At camp david, which was July 2000, not June, the Palestinians were willing to accept Israel on the 1967 borders, with some territory swaps. but the Israelis made more demands, including the Palestinians giving up east Jerusalem, and Israel controling water supplies in the west bank. Israel would also have control of Palestinian airspace and be allowed to station troops in the west bank as well. This coupled with the denial of right to return meant that the Palestinians couldn't really accept. They felt they had already comprisied on the creation of the state of israel and this was "comprising on a compromise". But that was 22 years ago. The situation of the Palestinians today is way worse so maybe looking back, you could say they should have taken the deal. But they would have pretty much ended up in the same position as today but having given up any pretence of being an independent country.
You know it only took me 5 mins to research enough to debunk your misrepresentation. How embarrassing for you. I'm sorry. 😀
@@truereason2784 maybe you should have done more research than just 5 minutes. Virtually every countries that ever shown good will toward Palestinian and took their refugees in have descended into violence and war. Jordan's Black September, Iraqi invasion on Kuwait, Lebanon civil war, etc...
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Even in 1947, these Muslim Arabs have refused a much better deal than Camp David, and they declared war on Israel anyway even though it's not even their land. It's quite obvious that it was the Jewish who are "comprising on a compromise", the Palestinian wouldn't even be in Westbank and Gaza strip in the first place if Israel have never signed Oslo pact.
The Jews obviously need some measure of guarantee that Palestine wouldn't turn against Israel like they did to other Arab states and Israel itself, especially considering Westbank's advantageous geological position that would allow any Palestinian extremists to rain uncheck havoc on all of Israel's densest population center. Palestine wasn't in any position to refuse anything, considering their history and credibility.
Gaza was supposed to prove that a peaceful Palestine could existed alongside Israel. No one would have argued against the two-state solution if Gaza was successful, yet it didn't even last a year until the Palestinian voted for Hamas. There is a reason why UN allowed Israel to legally continue their military occupation on West Bank.
"How to code": you mean for getting a good job? That's not in the list of their most important problems, believe me!
Palestine never have a land.
I was demonstrating with Palestinians all my life, i was jailed for them. Now i saw all the videos from the 7/10 massacare and the sheer cruelty of Hamas, but also their simple citizens and the enormty of my pain and anger for my murdered friends is just beyond. We Isralies are not ok, yet the world thinks we dont have blood.
Watching this in 2024 , this show that peace can never happen , what a shame.
Exactly thats why Israel will never repeat such a mistake like Gaza. Israel has the right to defend itself. Long live Israel! Never give up!
🤦🏽♀️awww thinks Israel is Actually a thing😂😂😂
@@idcidc880 dude, realise that already, over the last 70 years Israel is much more of a country than Palestine
@@idcidc880 if it isn't a thing then I guess there's no problem to solve.
@@idcidc880 If Israel is not a thing, then what are Palestinians whining for ? 🤣🤣🤣
@@mehul3028haha nice one
Corey, Thank you. I think this was the very best video on your channel. I learned from it that Palestinians don't understand Gaza or West Bank as separate entities, they rather see them as pieces of what should be a single country (I assume). That's why they don't accept the idea of withdrawing from the occupied pieces. They would be content if Israel (the people of the Book) withdrew from the Land in it's entirety. I also find it interesting that they don't want to decide for others - if people in Ramallah get their part, how could they accept peace for those who are refugees or who live in Yafo. Very interesting. Also it shows that both sides have something completely different on their minds when they are asked "do you want peace". For Israelis it means "leave us as we are", for Palestinians it's "leave us" period.
As I see it, Israel is in the position to bring the Palestinians out of a long quagmire that has put most of them into a state of Apathy. Israel needs to hand them their Country whether some like it or not. The Gaza Strip and a large portion of the West Bank, or West Palestine after borders are redrawn to make concessions. Israel can also propose to build them new Office Buildings in Jerusalem as a Functional, or Operational Capital for the Palestinians to run their Country and its day-to-day operations, as well as some shared administrative responsibilities in running the day-to-day civic routines in Jerusalem. This will elevate their self-importance and perception up to a level where actual peace may be attainable for a sustained period of time. I'm thinking of One Century-because it will take at least a Century for new generations of Children to realize that Israel and Palestine are living in peace with each other, and in cooperation, and even sharing in some prosperous adventures together.
I've Witten a 12 point proposal that could work, if Israel is willing to make a World Changing commitment and some sacrifices. If Israel and the US only thinks of currents events, then any plan will be short lived. We must think about long term results, to see future generations grow up with an entirely new perspective.
Very sad to hear the young Palestinian Arabs so stubborn, immature and closed-minded. Essentially they are saying the following: "This is our country, our land; we want it all back. We suffered so much. There can be no peace with Israel ; in time, we will overcome, inshallah. "
Some if it is just posturing, I suppose, or the fear of reprisals from extremists in their communities who will see this video, if they agree to make peace and compromises.
History shows that it was never a separate country under the Ottoman Caliphs and the local Arabs didn't own most of the lands in Mandate Palestine. As for the real refugees of 1948 or 1967, some left; some moved across the border to Jordan or Lebanon; some stayed to become Israeli Arabs.
It's high time to bang their heads together and tell them to move on with their lives. The world doesn't revolve around the Palestinian conflict with all its propaganda and falsehoods. Enough is enough!
@BusterPlanet My pleasure, haver. L'hayim!
Lol you can't kill us and expect peace! ruclips.net/video/p0dQVA5vwwo/видео.html
it seems all Arabs claim the land of Israel, though Palestin comes from the Romans. Israel so patient to not kick all 'Palestinians' out of West Bank and Gaza. Many nations would expel them in it's entirety. They should be thankful.
of course not, look at gaza.
It is always peaceful in the Gaza Strip, until the Israeli army arrives on the Gaza border. If Israel has given the Gaza strip to Palestine, why do they always send troops to the area. That is asking for problems ,.
@@ozwardgosku4693 yeah yeah very "peaceful". the Israeli troops are on their side of the fence- which is totally ok. it's peaceful until the 'Palestinian(there's no such thing) protesters(terrorist)' start throwing bombs, grenades and start shooting at the Israeli troops. what do you want the troops to do? watch them? of course they will fight back and protect their nation.
@@maorvilko5671 Lol
First, maybe you should watch some videos about the conflict around the Gaza Strip. In those videos you can clearly see that it is the Israeli soldiers who use the bombs, grenades and guns. The only "weapon" the protesters use are the rocks they find on the ground and throw them at full force to warn the army that they should not come closer, forcing the Israeli army to answer the request by force. Second, despite the fact that they are on their side of the fence, they can always be found near the Gaza Strip and they know it will cause problems. If they really want peace, then they must leave people alone. And why is it okay that if the Israeli army attacks them, it is because they want to protect their country, andif Palestinians doing it with the same idea, they are immediately terrorist.
@@ozwardgosku4693Gosku lets address a couple of points. fist of all you need to stop watching bullshit videos and come see for yourself, it shouldn't be dangerous as the 'Palestinians' only throw rocks right? well, it's not their only weapon, as you may or may not know they have rockets, bombs, guns, snipers, etc. and they use them all. second of all, how can the soldiers come closer? there's a literal fence there. third of all, Israel has the right to defend it's borders and has every right to be near the Gaza strip at any given time. fourth of all, the Gaza strip is not a country and will never be. Hamas is considered a terrorist group by many western countries because they target civilian populations in their attacks. Golda Meir, a former Israeli prime minister once said: " the day the Arabs will put their weapons down- there will be peace, the day Israel will put its weapons down- there will be no Israel." I think you are smart enough to understand how true and smart this statement is.
I am not fighting you and I don't hate Arabs or Muslims in general, but the sooner you and the rest of the world will realize the truth the easier it will be to make peace.
@@maorvilko5671
I also have nothing against Jews and Israel and I am certainly not an anti-Semite. I mean what's wrong with a Jewish state, they also have the right to have their own. Only I do not support the actions of the Israeli army. First of all you say "come see for yourself" and with that you claim by yourself that you have seen with your own eyes what the situation was there at the border. If you know it all, then make videos and set it to YT. I have never been able to watch footages of the protesters attacking the army with missiles and bombs. Meanwhile, there are thousands of this "bullshit video" of the Israeli army shooting the protesters while the protesters only threw stones and objects at the army. The fact that hamas have these weapons does not mean that everyone in the gaza strip is provided with a weapon. Second of all, do you really think a fence can stop Israel from entering Gaza? Third of all, Israelis have the right to protect their own borders on their side of the fence. But Palestinians also have the right to demonstrate on their side of the fence. Yes, of course, it is aggressive and yes objects are thrown at the army, but should that seriously represent death threats? Fourth Yes, Hamas are terrorists and I also think the IDF should fight hard against Hamas and yes Hamas has often attacked Israel, but the Israeli army must understand that not every Palestinian in the Gaza Strip is a Hamas terrorist. They kill innocent people who only throw objects at the IDF but, strangely enough, the IDF never fight against Hamas. If you kill innocent people you are a terrorist in my eyes. And recently, Gaza may not be a country, but it is certainly not part of Israel either. The area is largely recognized as part of the Palestinians and more and more people will also recognize it as Palestinian territory. Golda Meir is right about her statement, but people also say "If there was no Israel, there would be no Hamas". I know that the Palestinians are not the peaceful in this situation, but let's not pretend that Israel is the one here who is creating peace here. Both are just guilty of this violence and I support the Palestinians and you the Israelis and nobody can change our mind.
Where does this "this is our land" rhetoric come from?
History cleary demonstrates that the Jews were in that part of the world before there was any referemce to a palestinian. There are no records of the Romans conquering Palestinians for the land. Where am I wrong?
Depending on the author of the history book. That region once belonged to Ottoman Empire till 20 century before it was lost to English. You need to read Ottoman Empire history.
@@pembebulut2781
I know somewhat of Ottoman empire history. Tell me, what was before Ottoman history? And, in Palestine today, what ethnicity do the most ancient of artifacts belong? Canaanites maybe? Are there Canaanites today?
@@hgkal808 it doesn’t matter. Let me give you an example. Turkish people come originally from Huns who lived in east Asia. We were forced out from our land by China and due to some geographic/weather conditions as well. We still speak Turkish. When you look at our dna, it shows we have only 3-4% of Hun dna. We don’t even look like them no more. So who ever migrates in an area, they blend with locals so much. The researchers in Turkey made dna tests few years a go, if turks in turkey are more of the migrants or ancient greeks. Majority of the dna comes from ancient greek which is local. If you look at body types from the statuses from bc2000, its exactly how current turkish people look like.
So what i believe is Palestinian are from the old Jewish who converted to islam and christianity. Ottoman kept peace over there at least 400 years. Before that region has been attacked a lot, but so did anatolia land itself where current Turkey locates. The bottom line is It doesn’t matter.
Look at Jewish people in Israel. They look Italian if they came from italy, they look yemenite if they came from yemen, most of them look very European. For them, mens religion does not matter as long as mom is Jewish. But man hold 50% of dna. Because their great great great great x20 grandparents are Jewish, didn’t they have other kids? Are they the only lineage? Didn’t some of them convert to christianity or islam? If they owned the land, wouldn’t the land be shared among heirs? If thats the case all turkic people should go back to huns land and fight with china, because those lands once belonged to our great great great great parents..
The bottom line is Palestinians are local people. And it had been their land for more than 500 years even more..
@@pembebulut2781
I agree with you on dna evidence. No argument here. I do not subscribe to a one world goverment. DNA logic leads there.
Why is it you choose not to address the archeological evidence? Is there no merit in it?
Palestine is Roman in name and historacity. Should the Pope and his people reclaim the rightful inheritence of their named land?
Does length of time make what is stolen unstolen? Does stolen property become not-stolen if aquired in a process of legal transaction or is the transaction fruit of the poisonus tree? Does not the early historical accounts of Jewish insurgency againtst the Roman occupiers confirm disagreement to occupation?
I dont agree with your assesment of peace from the ottomans. The forceful taking of sons and compulsory religon is not peaceful living. Without freedom of choice there is only compliance by foot on the neck. Stockholm syndrome is a real psych disorder.
Most importantly, do the Jewish people have a right to live on the land? If yes, do they have a right to live freely according to modern principles of freedom?
I am not from the middle east. But I do live in the 2nd century of occupied Hawaii. So I understand a little of what oppression and occupation looks like.
Imagine the Germans would have that mindset. they lost the war and 30%of their territory where 18 million Germans lived and all have been expelled. There would have never been peace in Europe.
That is sort of what happened.. The allies (usa and uk) took hold of western germany while poland annexed their occupied territories and the soviet union took hold of eastern germany
@@sashalonex3105 yes millions of Germans who lived for centuries in Pommern, Schlesien, Ostpreußen, Sudetenland got expelled, lost their properties and homeland forever but they made a new start in the BRD or DDR.
hm great thought. here we have 2 totally wronged people. jewish from europe and middle east - didnt have a country for long time and holocaust. and the palastinians, whos land was taken to create israel. with germany it feels somehow different, maybe because they were the aggresor, maybe bc the differences between countries in europe is smaller, as previous guy said, germany was rebuild, hm
It happens in Poland and Kaliningrad
@@Larrypint and just like the Germans in those areas supported and provided assistance to the invading Nazi army, the "palestinians" also provided assistance to the invading Arab legion and other Arab armies in their attempted genocide against the Jews in Israel. The "palestinians" are lucky they were allowed to stay in Israel and not booted out like the Germans were after the war.
Are there any Palestinians who are aware of Judea? Do they not know that Jews have been there for 1000s of years? Do they not know how the name Palestine came to be?
Tel arabya? Where did she "learn" that from?
this land was called that before your invasion and usurping the lands
@@00Abrams00 add valid source please
@@00Abrams00 You're yet to add a source. Maybe you don't have one?
@@barrotem5627 www.google.com use your keyboard, and search for the subject, you will find tens of sources, if you want !
do you think that lands were Jewish or Empty before 1948 ??
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Look, it's simple, I couldn't find a source. It directs me to the city Tel Aviv, please add source to support your claim
Seems like these people would forego any rights rather than some rights and liberties. Gaza has been a salutary lesson to the world, and dealing with Hamas taken a lot of pressure off Israel.
If Israeli lobby stop bribing the US/UK ruling cliques will the US/UK finally stop buggering the world?
modern israel is hamas with the latest jet bombers
It's always the resentful groups & views that hate israel(jews in particular, because you can not hate the country, each country having it's own business and problems) while there are far more unstable uncontrolled facist anarchist societies. Israel isn't in the last 10 of them, actually many people would love to live there including the Druze & palestinians who are part of israel and living & enjoying the rights and opportunities that the country has to offer for their future individually, collectively respected and documented and very integrated in israel communities, positions of power including politicians, mayors and so on. Our family business's partner here is a palestinian man, for 23 years already. Our families are very close.
It's not such heaven, many arabs in our universities causing problems, rooting the palestinian/globalist nerrative in universities environment & teachings, stealing, causing problem, and so on. There is always something to fix, lalaland do not exist.
FWIW, I thought Corey did a good job in this one of assertively trying to clarify people's positions without crossing a line into being offensive or pointlessly argumentative.
Wow, best question ever. No partner with Palestinians.... No way to compromise. They would rather stay like this forever.
It's so sad that they would rather continue dying and let their children and daughters continue to die thought of Peace doesn't even enter their minds
Numbers please.
Numbers for what?
I'm lost hope with dis people.....Israel do what ever to protect ur people....
I love it when the Arabs tell the world who and what they are in their own words.
Starhopper well said, also Israel should spend more time telling the world what they have lost with Israel having to spend its resource on defense as opposed to all those medical & technical advancements that could have saved countless lives around the world!
and the world still makes excuses for them
CNN or BBC wont show this anyway. So "world" is hard to say
Asking palestine to make peace is like asking them to give up, they don't want war, they want what was taken from them.
@@Megaspinosaurusrex They never owned it though. And even if they think they did, why didn't they make any moves to declare themselves independent when the West Bank was under Jordan's control? They have absolutely no historical basis to support their claim that any land was stolen. It wasn't stolen, they ran away on their own accord.
What people can't understand is that you can never have a perfect peace. Sometimes you just get to accept "something". The idea of a two-state solution is something.
When Corey says he's from Canada and would give up his land for peace in a second lmaooooo this guy is a joke
I also found that odd. Corey, can you clarify if you sold your Canadian property to the First Nations people in your area?
@@iunderscoream THIS GUY LMFAOOOO
💯 rekt
IKR. That was so cringy.
No one has to give up land for peace, just accept the current situation or some agreement without further expectations.
Most Palestinians in this video say they don't want peace, they want war until they imagine they could destroy Israel. They instead believe in Palestinian Exceptionalism just like the Zionists did. Jews are a bit more indigenous to Israel than Palestinians are, yet even without that fact, the fact is every other land on earth has been conquered at some point or another, and unlike Palestinians, they don't sacrifice everything for a dream to go back to the past. Did Christians demand Constantinople back from the Muslims, or did they accept the new situation for peace? But that and 100's of other situations are the same.
Thus, past Zionist Exceptionalism created the problem & Palestinian Exceptionalism means a commitment to the conflict based on fantasy of going back to the past.
Older people lived more time to know they have heard and see a load more BS then the younger generation.
Regardless, one can see how the victimization card leads to entitlement and refuse to acknowledge basic human rights for the other side.
Def the Arabs need to learn human right such as dont stab your neighbor on the street is a basic
@@zivonit Good to know that the only people who actually support what Israel is doing are American racists. Not shocking, but nice to get it confirmed in every comment section.
@@robinsterne7854 im not america racist and Im not pro-israeli, but palestinian (at least people who are similar to the young people in this video) need to chill the fuck out
The older generation studied from Jordanian textbooks, the younger generation studied from textbooks re-edited by the Palestinian Authority, PA controlled TV and media. They have much less interaction with Israelis and are highly effected by social media.
The Romans were the first to call this region Palestine, and they were referring to much of present day Jordan, Syria and Lebanon as well as where Israel sits. But nobody is demanding that people in those countries leave because Palestine once covered those areas.
The Greeks.
@@edwinlucianofrias1643
Maybe it was the Greeks who gave the area a name but there has never been a country or government named Palestine.
@@PrivateEyeYiYi I wish both sides would stop trying to argue the other out of existence. Most Israelis aren’t European settlers from Eastern Europe: a majority is Mizrahi and 70 percent was born in Israel. Palestinians aren’t an invention of Yasser Arafat: they are the descendants of the Arab population of the British Mandate for Palestine. Both of these nations are there now and have to deal with each other.
@@edwinlucianofrias1643
I wish for peace as well, but since most Palestineans only seem interested in peace if all Israelis leave what they consider to be Palestine (which means the entirety of Israel) it’s hard for the Israelis to compromise. Nevertheless several attempts have been made with all of them being rejected.
@@PrivateEyeYiYi I agree with what you wrote in the post. I will only add that when someone tells you who they are, believe them. The Palestinians are telling us all who they are in these videos.
I just think it isn’t helpful to delegitimize the other side. It happens on both camps and it’s really annoying to this outside observer.
There are so many important issues to discuss. I think it just gets in the way.
4:16 " There's no Israel"
If Israel doesn't exist, what are these people whinning for?
Surprised to see that the older people are more tolerant than the younger generation, but easy to understand the indoctrination and lies they are taught.
They have been conditioned to believe that Palestine existed, was once a great nation but never in any recorded history has Palestine ever existed when it was ruled, governed or even occupied by Palestinians for Palestinians.
Israel does not THINK that Israel is their land, ISRAEL has credible evidence to back up their claim.. ALLAH GAVE THE LAND TO THE JEWS.
Why don't they believe their own Koran?
ARABS rejected their own homeland in 1947....and 1937 Peel Commission.
Palestinians were invented by Arafat in 1964.
100 years of Arab REJECTIONISM relates the whole story of why Arabs aka Palestinians do not have a homeland.
So basically is the ideia ... Palestinians clamed that jews destroyed Palestine a great country in epoch to build another in same area called Israel, Israelis claimed that this area was desert and inhabited by this epoch and palestianians are a political invent....
@@luanlopes9415 you "must" check out how many Islamic preachers, Arab historians state that Palestinians are invented. Arafat admitted that he had invented the Palestinians in 1964, as a political pawn against Israel.
Abbas stated that the ARABS (no Palestinians till 1964)
had erred (his word) by REJECTING their own homeland in 1947....and 1937 Peel Commission, as per historical facts of: "100 years of Arab REJECTIONISM'.
That's the wonder of modern technology today, everything can be checked, verified or refuted using ofcourse credible and unbiased sources.
@@luanlopes9415 Do you even know that there was an Israel before the modern, reestablished Israel? Where do you think Judaism started? How old is it and how old is Islalm? Where did Islam start and where did it spread to and when? I find it hard to believe that you could know this basic history and still think what you do unless you just don't care about the facts.
(I am a muslim without bias) I could be wrong but it seems like the Palestinians have a serious lack of education. They seem to think that it’s a possibility for the Israelis to pick up and leave, that’s just not how it works. This sounds like American Indians saying America is their land. No, it was then it was conquered. Time to deal with the reality that it is not yours anymore. Im sorry but this just pisses me off. It reminds of my people(African Americans) always crying about what somebody else is doing instead handling yours. May Allah correct our affairs. Ameen
exactly!!! it's driving all of us in Israel crazy, they are so stuck in the past that they can't think about the future. it's like they enjoy staying victims. I don't get them..
@kt95 gy Well, if thats true then Palestine people will be raped by Israel until the end of time ?
I'm a Muslim too and I agree. I just want there to be peace already and I'm tired of all this BS. While I'm against the extreme measures Israel takes against Palestinians, I think the Palestinians should agree to the 2 state solution and Israel should withdraw all its influences on them.
hamas education
Ur talking allot of shit my guy😂
Wow... They are really detached from reality. I don't think they are being taught the actual history of their land, just "everything is ours, end of story". Depressing...
It's a deeply disheartening video isn't it? Bearing in mind it's just a small selection of people and that it's a couple of years old, I'd be interested to hear some more recent opinions. I worry that this current situation will lead to more extreme views on both sides. I'm interested in the work of הבית (The Home), who bring Israeli and Palestinian people together with a focus on a one state solution, but I think there's a very long way to go before either a one or two state solution which would be acceptable for all could be accepted by either side.
Should the US support/fund/propagandize and arm Palestinians as much as they do the Israeli/US military base? If there are dozens of bombers flying over a helpless people then maybe Palestinians should have at least as many bombers and guided missiles right? Ask an Israeli colonist if they could survive without being a US military base? Ask an Israeli colonist if they are the most sadistic/fascist colonial project in history. Of course Palestinians are going to be nicer people, they have more dignity because their existence doesn't depend on a sadistic colonial project. But the west has given their ruling class and plutocrats the moon and the stars so many Israelis have a relatively higher standard of living so they don't want to give up what they have no matter how sadistic. If you see this can you give me a sign, I think some of my comments are being censored. Unfortunately there is a lot of censorship and their is a lot of "promoting" of propaganda.
Israel: kills kids, expects peace. What a joke. ruclips.net/video/p0dQVA5vwwo/видео.html
only 2 out of about 9 people will be willing to have peace. Who is Israel supposed to have a peace agreement with..?
interesting is the fact that both of them were from the older population.
This is the most powerful video i have seen. Clearly no peace is possible regardless of international intervention.
The older generation are more willing to make peace because they have seen war
Even a 2 year old has seen war in Palestine
The education system has changed hands.
That's actually sad to see that the older people want the peace more then the younger ones..
That means that as years will go through the peace in this conflict will get further and further
Well older people are less motivated while younger people have more burning desire.
The younger generation unlike the older went through different education system and television, that is controlled by the PA, the younger generation has less interaction with Israelis and is more swayed by social media.
Besides the whole Arab world was more liberal and less radical in 1930-1980.
The last two generations of Arabs in this land were taught to believe they had a whole ass country pre 1948 and now its all theirs 😂😂😂 thr older citizens know better .
Tel Arabia was an Arab city?
In what universe?
هـوويـيـن كيـــومــا do you realize that you're brainwashed ?
@@هوويينكيوما If you use this logic, jews just took back "Promised Land ", +/- , which was theirs since Abraham times. And if I remmeber corectly, all jews descent / originate in Palestine region.
Bad peace is better than good war.
@@هوويينكيوما Religion was not my point. I was pointing out the origins of the izraelis . Their grand grand grand xxx... parents were from that region. So using "history" as an argument seems not to be right. And what about the fourth generation of children? Their grand parents were already born in Palestina region /Izrael. As I saw in another Vice video, it might be 50% of today's number. (I am not willing to say which side has bigger claim on land nor truth. Both sides have their own truth. My opinion: it is just a big cluster fuck there and people will have to work hard to solve this situation. Or they just continue to kill each other. And therefore "Bad peace is better than good war."
@@هوويينكيوما God created Judaism, not Moses
So was Abraham هـوويـيـن كيـــومــا
this is the problem. Even if Israel agreed to the two state solution it would just allow its enemies to move their forces closer to Israel and allow them to surprise attack in the future. The problem is that the Muslims in the region will never stop until the state of Israel is destroyed. And exactly that is why Israel can not back down, it would be suicide.
corrected it is not muslims in this region. Its Muslims across Globe had same attitude..
I dont want to throw every muslim into the same pot. But if you consider only 2 or 3 percent of all muslims as radicals, that is still a hell of allot of them. @@venugopala4865
This video summarizes all your precious previous videos. It's the Islamic worldview in a nutshell, permitted even into the Arab Christians.
The right of return is internationally recognized right and have nothing to do with muslim world view! Israel is aparthied European settler-colony built on palestinian land so never ever think palestinians will give up their land to their oppressors more than a century, with time palestinians will choices you will never like to hear
@@hassanmohamudali3065 then they should return where they came from, Arabia. They were Jordanian, and Southern Syrian. 'Many of their surnames are good indications of their origins: Al Masri, Al Metzarwah (Egyptian), Al Husseini, Al Urdondi (Jordanian), Al Suri, Al Nashashibi (Syrian) Al Haurani (Hauran, Syria), Al Lubnani (Lebanese), Al Tarabulsi (Tarabulus-Tripoli in Lebanon), Al Iraqi (Iraqi), Al Saudi, Al Husayni (Saudi Arabia).'
There's no such thing as Palestinian Muslims or Arabs. It was a name invented in the 1960s with help from the PR department of the KGB. Christians were called Nazarenes, Muslims were called... Gasp... Arab Muslims. There's not even a P sound in Arabic, and unsurprisingly while the closest Levant populations are genetic cousins - Druze, Jews, Samaritans and Lebanese Christians... The fakestinians are related to Arab Muslims from Arab countries, Yemen, Egypt, Jordan, Syria.
The Druze people, a "genetic sanctuary" for the diversity of the Near East in antiquity, have been found in genetic studies to be the closest to Jews of the populations in the Levant. Lebanese also cluster closely with Jewish ethnic groups, closer than Syrians and Palestinians".
Nope. Christians forgive. That's our thing. WE FORGIVE, WE PRAY FOR OUR ENNEMIES, WE LOVE OUR ENNEMIES. If Christian palestinians are real christians...
@@hassanmohamudali3065
There is no such thing in international law as "right of return" for the descendants of Muslim Arabs who left British Mandatory Palestine in middle of last century in the attempt to erase Jews from the land of their origin. You have robbed and kicked out 1 000 000 Jews from all Arab countries. Israel is internationally recognized country by entire civilized world.
All of them were talking about land and not religion..are you delusional?
You can't make peace with those people. Sorry to say that but it's reality, even when Israel move to other place it will never end.
GO ISRAEL! there s no way to come to terms with these people!