Former Tory Minister Rory Stewart says Liz Truss is not conservative | LBC
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- Former Development Secretary, Rory Stewart, tells Andrew Marr Liz Truss’ ‘ideological’ talk about growth may work but ’it’s not very conservative’.
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Truss is a career politician, she couldn't care less about the UK, that's the problem.
Right now she is a career ending politician though :p
@@WhichDoctor1 she will still get a nice big pay off, when she's ousted, and will still be a MP. She won't be going to the job centre or a food bank, any time soon.
I've never understood what the problem is with being a "career politician" is. It's all dependent on what your politics are.
They're all like that, not just Truss.
She's basically in the pocket of neoliberal think tanks and hedge fund managers. Truss and her chancellor will legislate and form policy in their favour. It's not about growing the economy, it's transparently about transferring wealth up to the top of the pyramid, while promising a trickle down from the top. But, in a largely self regulating free market, there is little incentive to share wealth with main street. Trickle down has been proven to not work in the way the promise it will.
Well done Rory for stating the bleeding obvious . How I % of the Tory Party can elect a Prime Minister is a complete mockery of Democracy .
Yep, we have always laughed at third world countries .. now we are the laughing stock of the world… what a shambolic way to run a country..🤬🤬
The problem seems to come down to politicians who genuinely believe they are the ruling class.
Theres no way Liz Truss feels shes part of the ruling class though
Like Mogg and Fabricant…..
@@billpugh58 And Rory Stewart.
@@billpugh58 No way is Fabricant he went to a grammar school
And Kier Starmer….
Rory Stewart would have been amazing as a PM
Guy is too wishy washy to bring about any change… he would do well in the Lib democrats party..😏
I’m not so sure about that pal
As would Kemi Badenoch.
Deputy PM, he seems to be level headed but a PM needs a bit more boldness.
Sadly, there are not enough level headed people in the nasty party, they're all ideologues now.
To frame environmentalists as the enemy is actually unspeakable at this point in time.
They are a bunch of lunatics trying to lead the world astray!
Depends what the environmentalists want though doesn't it?
@@rww805 Asinine response that adds nothing to anything
@@rww805 The clue is in the name, they actually want to save the planet.
@@bp6639 Not quite. What if what they want is an end to nuclear energy and all further talks of nuclear energy in favour of yet more 'renewables'?
An abrupt abolition of fossil fuels? Energy rationing and 'climate change lockdowns'? Having us all kept under intense scrutiny by the state to monitor our CO2 contributions?
These are all suggestions of some of the most vocal 'environmentalists'.
Edit: Oh yes, let's not forget banning all meat and getting us all to eat bugs.
Odd isn't it, that many of these suggestions by the enviros also happen to be those heavily favoured by a certain Mr. Schwab.
So yes, it does matter what it is the environmentalists actually want.
Yesterday was brilliant. Despite being in charge of the economy (along with her chancellor), she basically said that it isn't her fault if we don't get growth, it is everybody else's!
Sounds about Tory…
I’ve liked Rory ever since I read his book many years ago about him walking across Afghanistan, I wish he’d been voted in as the Conservative Party Leader, I think politics and the UK would be a very different and better place right now if he’d have been voted in.
Meh, a tory is a tory is a tory...The country won't be a better place until they are ALL gone from power.
I hate this country and its politics. Pretty shamelessly selfish
I feel the same 👍
That's why this country is object to be sold out.
So do I . I’d love to be put on the plane to Rwanda !
I'd never fight for a country voting conservative. I'd follow their ethos and think every man for himself
@@redf7209 It's called Conservative - but what do they conserve? Extreme liberal economics and globalisation - nothing Tory about that.
If Thatcher had a Little Blue Book, Truss and the ERG reject 90% of what’s in it.
They'd probably call Churchill a socialist
Yes Thatcher was pro EU then called EEC. She could see that Britain would strive with access to a market of 400 millions and she was right (as proven by history).
@@joelleliblinc5673 The EEC is not the EU. By a long shot.
@@cockoffgewgle4993 there's no reality in the multiverse where Thatcher would have supported us leaving the single market. Not one.
@@cockoffgewgle4993 The EU built from the ECC, it was the natural, sensible, and most beneficial progression for everyone, including Britain who thrived through EU membership.
It's a shame that Rory is too honest for British politics.
I’ve never been a conservative supporter but Rory talks sense. Liz Trust has pitched her tent as an outsider even though she’s been in government for 10 years. It’s the ultimate con trick in my mind. Rory for PM? I’d vote 🗳 for him.
If you don't think Truss is Conservative then you either don't understand politics or you are highly ignorant. She is a proper Conservative as she wants to reduce taxes and state intervention... which are not what the previous Conservatives under Johnson etc. Have been doing aka raising taxes and increasing state intervention.
I've never voted for the Conservative party but I have come to realise I'm a conservative - High Tory not Thatcherite economic liberalism.
Don’t buy this: Stewart voted for cutting the top rate of tax from 50 to 45 and for every brutal austerity measure during the Cameron years. His “style” of Tory politics has been very similsr. Never forget the truth
Do you not understand the idea of party politics?
He's on the right side of politics? Would much rather have the likes of him on that side of the argument.
Thr problem is that her ideology isn't going to create sustained growth, its an outdated triclle down based idea that may create some short term growth in places like London. Modern businesses operate in complex ecosystems and need to collaborate around innovative strategies and social responsibilities.
Business has the same fundamentals. To make money you need access to customers with money to spend. The Tories are making ours poorer, and access to the EU’s more difficult and expensive.
Yesterday she said "by the end of the year all EU red tape will be consigned to history". I'd love to see how she's going to get rid of all the extra "red tape" on exports to the EU now we're not in the single market...
Growth is not her goal, selling out Britain is the mission she got.
The fact is there were no real growth for a long time since the QE and 0 interest rate, she was in the treasury she knows the facts, and she know the BOE was creating money monthly to keep the ball rolling, if it wasn't for covid and the inflation that comes because of money created no one is talking about growth, they were happy with 1% here and there created by the money printing, now that is death they start talking about real growth production the train has long gone for that, it's hard to sell anything these days without someone somewhere else selling it cheaper
@@Sam-xq8xh That could be gotten rid of pretty easily. All we need to do is agree to enforce European Union standards and join the customs union - you know, what the Brexiteers wanted before the ERG told them they didn't.
Come back Rory! I would vote for you and I have never voted conservative.
She did exactly what she stands for,and the people who put her there. the first thing she did was, make a policy, that says my poor greedy selfish friends,who are in the top of society, and built up a shopping list of weaknesses, ( eniquities ),that have a detremental affect on lower society,need to accumulate more poison so we can, destroy lower society, and make them pay for,my greedy friends,so yes she did what she is.
The CONservatives have always been greedy and condescending to the real workers of this country.
Maybe it's time for the voters to decide?
When you all will do, demand full list of all politicians on WEF' s book at taxpayer's expense and make sure your vote is not for them. The advice I give to my sons and wife entitled to vote.
I have a very high opinion of Rory Stewart! I would really like to see him back in Parliament!
I’m not British and hate the Conservative party because of their history BUT. I really like Rory and he could and should be part of their party and able to steer them in a better way. He was never going to her there because he is more center than right of center.
Look at his voting record. It doesn't line up with the way he speaks.
Not sure he belongs in the Tory Party anymore. I agree that he should be in politics but where? He talks much like a centre right Labour member. However (like the US) politics is polarised
He'd be much better served with Labour I think.
I agree with you. I like the philosophy behind Conservativism - Michael Oakeshott, Edmond Burke et al... but what we have is and long has been very far fom that. They seem to be bordering on fascism.... 'if you don't agree, you're an enemy of the State' sort of thing. I do wish that the truly honestly charming Rory, mad teeth 'n' all, were capable of an influential place in a party desecrating this country.
Yeah, he's a class above.
She's just a vapid mouthpiece for those who don't give a toss for health, environment and basically everything we need for her growth growth growth. The growth she is referring to is probably the tumour on the side of society that the Tories have been adding to so professionally.
100% with you.
Rory Stewart is a one-nation conservative. Many one-nation conservatives arose from WWII. Pre-war many conservatives had strong right-wing views. Forced to fight next to the working classes changed their views. With the rise of Thatcher, the consensus that arose from that time went. Sadly today's conservatives have by in large reverted back to their default beliefs.
The Tory party decayed from Thatcher onwards and finally died with the leaving of Rory Stewart.
The one-nation conservative idea of Disraeli is dead, and will not be coming back anytime soon, and we cannot let neoliberism continue winning.
I completely agree. She slugs think tanks off but she's in one, she a neoliberal. Never will work and never has. The country is in real danger from her.
On a planet with finite resources constant growth is impossible.
So let's get off planet. Sheesh, look up not down!
The only thing sustaining growth is population growth and corrupt, abstract economics (having an economy that produces nothing yet remains rich).
@@cockoffgewgle4993 So, to pick out a couple of random subjects, education and technological innovation have no value?
@@JohnBeeblebrox Our biggest industries are service industries.
Totally agree with how lizard looked at rishi sunak with disgust at the hustings when he warned if her diabolical policies her ego & arrogance is far bigger than common sense that is if she has any.
The only ideology Truss has is staying in power. She can be (and has been) a remainer, a brexiteer, a liberal, a conservative... whatever she thinks would gain her more votes
So . . . a Conservative?
Radical? More like simplistic and thoughtless.
A General election Now
Things may be a disaster for the Tories, but they are not ready for a collective suicide.
Love listening to Rory. And I’m a leftie.
You're a prat then.
Fair enough - Rory is a raging lefty too.
I doubt you know what left or right means! It's a label used to fool people so politicians and the rich can divide to rule the fools!!
We've seen your voting record Rory, stop pretending you suddenly have a conscience.
Rename the Tory Party the 'Taking Liberties' Party
Nope…. Change it to CON-Servative party… we have all been conned by bozo Boris and his clown circus..🤬🤬
I like Rory he’s got decency written all over his face
Decency doesn’t bring about change… vision does.. and he has none.😏
just like Boris
He is still a Tory
@@missbee3618 former
@@redf7209 bojo just did what he wanted and just apologised after when found out.
We need elections more than ever
If Rory Stewart were leader of the Tories we would be in a much better place.
Who wants to live in a Singapore type society?
what would Rory know he's a liberal not even a Red Tory? Truss is a conservative Conservative
Please please don't let us become America!! I'm glad to live in this country.
The fact that you could so easily see Rory Stewart as a Labour MP should tell you all you need to know about the British two-party state, and how this system is standing in the way of bringing to a halt the very obvious decline of this nation.
Media have turned Rory into a populist figure but the voting record and actual views make him a right wing tory that has supported their cruelty. Public are being fooled by the media the way they fooled the public about Boris.
When is Rory going to be pm
Yesterday she said "by the end of the year all EU red tape will be consigned to history". I'd love to see how she's going to get rid of all the extra "red tape" on exports to the EU now we're not in the single market...
Sensible business sees EU member red tape as the price you pay to access 450m customers.
Why would you chose less red tape just to access 65m customers getting poorer under the Tories?
She is preparing an alliance with Putin and Erdogan to put Europe to its knees.
This is the man who should have led the Tory Party.
Truss is conservative, albeit an extreme version of it...and the majority of party members voted for her as leader. Fact.
I’m fed up with emphasis on speeches . It’s action that matters . Are they aware that political history is full of political speeches designed to convince people of their own sense of inflated importance and means NOTHING without action to follow up countless claims. Her speech for example doesn’t change the nightmare that is the UK driven by an ego over substance .
More Action less talk is needed
in solving problems in the Uk from
every political party.
Whilst I would't likely agree with his politics or his vision of a 'one nation' view of the United Kingdom, I do agree with this man's integrity. I feel that he should look to forming his own political party and gather around him those similar to him who are also struggling with what the Conservative and Unionist Party have become. Once Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have finally found the courage, gumption and common sense to leave this failed union, England will need people like him to lead England to fulfill the great potential that that country also possesses.
Why don't you want Scotland, Wales and Ireland to be part of the uk?
Case in point: the Soviet Union. Whether or not you agree or disagree with Communism, the breakup of the Soviet Union had, on average, a positive economic impact on the smaller nations leaving. This is, I would argue, significantly more due to decentralisation (or recentralisation if you will) rather than actual change in economic policy, although becoming more aligned with the stronger western economies will have helped a lot empirically speaking.
@@Cumdown I don't know about that. Democracy doesn't seem to exist in britain anymore in any of the nations. As far as I can see, in each nation, i don't think any of the politicians that are in actually act as if they are representing the people of their country. I'm in wales and the welsh assembly are just another layer acting the same as Westminster and becoming richer themselves yet people no better off.
@@mel4856 Do you have evidence that the welsh government are making themselves richer because of their position in power ?
@@Cumdown I'm not one for giving up, but I am fed up of the conservatives (and labour in wales) both just take take take from the people, while the big corporations get away with paying their way, and governments lining their own pockets. In my lifetime I've never seen such a messed up Britain. And yet people here just seem to put up with it in the main. Are you not fed up with it? I know a lot who are.
Hasn't Stewart voted for benefits cuts and against benefits increases every time? He's a tory alright.
Correct Shaun. He is as vile as any Tory.
The Tories could never form a government without massive support, 33% of the working class.
It has had political scientists baffled for decades.
All of the media is owned by the rich.
I love Rory's personality and intelligence. Why oh why did the Conservatives not elect him to be their leader?
Surely you jest?
I’m a Labour voter but I would have considered voting Conservative if Rory had been Prime Minister, we need his Integrity, not the lying self serving, hate filled politicians at the top of the Tory party now.
Because they're the Tory party.
He has far too much sense and compassion for their base to ever put him in high office.
Just look at the rest of them.
Because of who they are!
He's too busy globe trotting his career.
None of this lot are conservative , hard work is not paying off !
It is interesting how Rory tries to define “his conservatism”. But conservatism is only 1 of 3 political dimensions. Progressive vs conservative, socialist vs liberal, democratic vs autocratic. As an EU citizen I think the current conservative government doesn’t fit anywhere because it is populist. And thus there is a 4th dimension which is probably intellect vs stupidity ( = populism).
In other words; the heart of the problem is that the Tories are in an identity crisis.
“Conservative” (upper Case “C”) and “conservative” (lower case “C”) are very different
20/20 hurts watching the EX-politician nail it
Lizz Truss is as Mad as Maggie Thatcher the problem is people have forgotten how krap life was under mad Maggie
That's her problem, she's a pure ideologue with no fiscal or pragmatic ideas for making a neoliberal agenda actually work (likely because it has never worked) but it is compounded by a total lack of creativity. It's like somebody told her to roll out the trickle down greatest hits then prey some magic investor fairies will fix industry and the markets without her actually having to do anything.
Correct. Maybe she and her cronies should read the book by David Stockman ,. Reagan's head of Budgets.
Nor is Stewart
If you don’t like that, you can just leave
So says Rory Stewart a complete waste of space individual if every there was one. Total failed MP.
Rory Stewart is a class act.
The Tories missed a trick by not voting Rory Stewart as their leader. He was the only one that could have brought a bit sanity into this rag bag bunch and their terrible policy making.
C’mon man, Rory couldn’t lead a scout patrol let alone 68 million Brits.. get real..😏
Lovely to see democracy in action
Joking?
@@peterebel7899 of course that are joking 😆
Indeed
This kind of polarising rhetoric is everything that is wrong with the UK at the moment. We need a government that brings the country together not divide it further
Labour are Conservative now, Conservative are Neo-Liberal now. We desperately need a new party which gives us a real left-wing option.
Conservatives have been Neoliberal since Thatcher. Now they are full blown Neoliberal Libertarian rather than Conservative.
Similar to Reagan in the States.
Agree that Labour are currently Centre Right.
Italy has moved to the right wing fascists. They know socialism is nonsense. You have to live in the real world and make capitalism work for the majority. Only idiots want to replicate Zimbabwe.
@@dowlingwoody Excellently stated !
Stewart you ate not conservative either really were you?
Power breeds folly. "Responsibility fades as the exercise of power increases. The overall responsibility of power is to govern as reasonably as possible in the interests of the state and its citizens. A duty in that process is to keep well-informed... to keep mind and judgement open and to resist the spell of wooden-headedness. If a mind is open enough to perceive that a policy is harming, rather than serving sel-interest and self-confident enough to acknowledge it, and wise enough to reverse it, that is a summit in the art of government." Barbara M Tuchman ' The March of Folly'.
The problem is that Rory Stewart has no clue what Conservative values are. And Andrew Marr is too far left of centre in his journalistic style.
He was kicking out that Buzz word "RADICAL" HOW MANY TIMES DID HE SAY IT 😂😂✌️🇬🇧✌️
Polarisation isn’t a new tactic.
You don't need to be a Conservative to know that.
This has aged well.
Rory who.
Love this man
The high earners are just going to buy more Gold if they have more money.
The conservatives through their childish loyalty to their mates missed a great opportunity by dismissing Rory Stewart as a leader, integrity and honesty from this bloke....
Rory is not a Conservative, but he is a conservative. Liz is the other way around.
This has been the Conservative party since Thatcher
Rory Stewart as PM would have been a disaster. He's a mamby pamby talk, talk, talk no action politician.
I think I can see the glint in souleness zeal in Truss's eyes that if it came to the very worst of it - e.g. on channel boat migration that if detainment camps - or concentration and even death camps that Cruella Braverman might want - then she would easily accede to, without much concern.
At least if it got her further along in her own ambitions.
She appears to have no humanity, no morals - none. Very much like her predecessor in that regard.
Rory voted for every austerity policy going, contributing to the 330,000 deaths of the most vulnerable Britons.
Wrong, she’s every inch a Tory you just don’t like to admit it to yourself….
Yeah, a late 80-s sort of Tory, except without patience & strategy
It’s hard not to like him.
Nor was he as I recall
They Live?
Rory Stewart could of been this country’s best prime minister but the rich and the powerful do not like leaders who are detailed and most of all tell the nation the truth , find this situation so confusing because do we want better or do we just watch and accept leaders who are just thinking of their hidden agendas by looking after the few and not the mass .
He should know
Economic growth does not necessarily benefit all of us, and has been shown to widen inequality in living standards, as the rich get richer, then by definition the gap must grow larger.
Companies do not usually increase wages, or share the profits more equally when they make larger profits, do they ?
Inequality also leads to more crime and social disorder.
We are supposed to be all in it together, which is true.
We all benefit the most when we take care of each other.
It's not rocket- science.
Nah, she 100% is. She came into power and immediately proposed slashing benefits and introducing trickle down economics, if that's not page one of the Conservative playbook nothing is.
I agree with Rory Stewart.
Miss Truss, the great pretender
Nope, the great CON-Servative… she conned everybody.. 😂😂
Because this man voted to remain in the EU, the new version of the Tory party and its members (that basically being of Ukippers) will never allow him to help run this nation back into some form of stability. He clearly was the best person for the job in 2019 and he was completely rejected. Shame on them.
Tufton Street Vulture Capitalism on amphetamines.
Au contraire mon ami, the problem is that she IS a Conservative... of the 18th-20th centuries.
She has not got the memo that this is the 21st century and what we need to be conserving is the sense of Britishness from the bottom UP, not the top DOWN.
LBC, why is Rory Stewart saying Liz Truss is NOT a Tory when she clearly is a Tory he just doesn't agree with her. does he want to do more for the wealthy and less for the poor? what would he have put forward?????
Real Tories are peter Hitchens and Rory
Rory Steward should buy a proper mic.
She is owned by those in the need to take the money out of Britain, she is brilliant.
It was a bubble gum speech, cheap.
of course she is
Well you’d know Rory, being barely the slightest bit Tory yourself... go join the LibDems. Maybe they’d need three cars to get their MPs to work?
You sound like very right-wing.
The pound slide continues because of her policies .
Deliver deliver deliver, pork markets , cheese imports ,disgrace disgrace .FFS
She is toast so does not matter what she does
Rory Stewart publicly talked about leaving Afghanistan and Iraq whilst privately advising Obama and Clinton on why to stay in the region whilst employing thousands of Afghans and Iraqis using taxpayers money.