Here's what I'm still trying to rap my head around the lateral control concepts. Feel free to point out any errors have made here because I am still learning. What I am hearing is a lot of people are expecting more out of NNFF/NNLC then it is capable of producing, and it's due to misunderstanding exactly what it's doing. I was one of those people. There are several different "MAXIMUMS" one can talk about here: -Steering Motor Capability - This is the theoretical maximum torque that the motor that turns the wheels of the car is ever capable of reaching, essentially before it would otherwise burn itself out electrically. This number is in the HUNDREDS of ft-lbs (or as WirelessNet2 says in his Medium article "capable of easily tearing your arms off"). This is wholly impractical when talking about driving a car (automatically or manually), so it will be ignored from this point forward, but it STILL does differ, car-to-car. -Next, is the "Stock Maximum Torque" - this is the maximum amount of demand that your car's Electronics Control Unit (ECU) will "ask" the steering motor to provide on the vehicle's stock LKA/LCA system, out of the factory. This is some arbitrary value that vehicle assist system manufacturers will pick, probably while being hounded by hundreds of corporate and federal safety officers reqiring it to be set WELL BELOW a value that could potentially cause the car to "steer itself." -Now, let's talk about OpenPilot 0.9+ "NNLC/NNFF" auto-tuning modes. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING that OpenPilot is ONLY capable of "tuning" the values UP TO, BUT NOT EXCEEDING the "Stock Maximum Torque." There is NOTHING in these NNLC/NNFF settings that gets around that. In other words, UNTIL OP version
So you didn’t want to annoy people on Discord but I’m somehow free game? lol I never expected more torque. I expected increased accuracy with the torque I already had available. Success in a curve is determined before even approaching a curve. ;) This is quite an old video, and like you mentioned, NNFF work has been introduced - but all it seemed to uncover is that the path planning from the model itself is lacking. All the accuracy in world can’t fix bad instructions aka “wanting to cut corners”, from late turn in.
Thanks for watching! Unless I get a new unit or can help someone in person with a new installation, I am reluctant to take apart my installation in gear or damaging or stressing something out. It’s a dev kit and the hardware doesn’t feel particularly robust; running the cables through my panels feels like a a lot of stress to the wiring for example. But if I get the chance to help someone out, I will definitely upload!
Greetings again. So Live-Torque can adjust automated settings so that drivers won't have to manually adjust them as much? Sounds convenient. I'm sure that there are still kinks to work out, though. Meanwhile, here's to comparisons with e2e. Feel free to include a Street Fighter VS logo in the thumbnail for laughs. Sorry. I've been having Street Fighter in my head lately.
github.com/commaai/openpilot/wiki/Tuning Normally you need to change values until the car physically executes what the software intends accurately. It takes some fiddling to get it right while checking on graphs and such; this will do away with that and make adjustments to align the software intention and physical execution. That’s the theory I guess, but I’m honestly not really sure - I still need to learn how to use pilot juggler. Great idea with the Street Fighter visuals though! Thanks as always for watching. Sorry I could not get any Digimon in. But keep you eyes peeled lol
@@bryan.deleon Thanks for the link. No doubt that there will be updates and patches for Live-Torque at some point. I suppose that you do have one software as your "main" for the time being. Had to throw in some fighting game jargon used by current players. There's no rush to binge on Digimon. Even I needed time before I started liking the franchise.
I noticed the same thing. My, is always have a lower speed than my speedometer on my car. It's GPS not calibrated by some electronics. Every time I pass by the speed meter my comma is on point with that, then my speedometer is
Here's what I'm still trying to rap my head around the lateral control concepts. Feel free to point out any errors have made here because I am still learning. What I am hearing is a lot of people are expecting more out of NNFF/NNLC then it is capable of producing, and it's due to misunderstanding exactly what it's doing. I was one of those people.
There are several different "MAXIMUMS" one can talk about here:
-Steering Motor Capability - This is the theoretical maximum torque that the motor that turns the wheels of the car is ever capable of reaching, essentially before it would otherwise burn itself out electrically. This number is in the HUNDREDS of ft-lbs (or as WirelessNet2 says in his Medium article "capable of easily tearing your arms off"). This is wholly impractical when talking about driving a car (automatically or manually), so it will be ignored from this point forward, but it STILL does differ, car-to-car.
-Next, is the "Stock Maximum Torque" - this is the maximum amount of demand that your car's Electronics Control Unit (ECU) will "ask" the steering motor to provide on the vehicle's stock LKA/LCA system, out of the factory. This is some arbitrary value that vehicle assist system manufacturers will pick, probably while being hounded by hundreds of corporate and federal safety officers reqiring it to be set WELL BELOW a value that could potentially cause the car to "steer itself."
-Now, let's talk about OpenPilot 0.9+ "NNLC/NNFF" auto-tuning modes. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING that OpenPilot is ONLY capable of "tuning" the values UP TO, BUT NOT EXCEEDING the "Stock Maximum Torque." There is NOTHING in these NNLC/NNFF settings that gets around that. In other words, UNTIL OP version
So you didn’t want to annoy people on Discord but I’m somehow free game? lol
I never expected more torque. I expected increased accuracy with the torque I already had available. Success in a curve is determined before even approaching a curve. ;)
This is quite an old video, and like you mentioned, NNFF work has been introduced - but all it seemed to uncover is that the path planning from the model itself is lacking. All the accuracy in world can’t fix bad instructions aka “wanting to cut corners”, from late turn in.
Can you show installation videos
Thanks
If I get a friend or acquaintance to help installing a new one, I may.
Are you having issues with your installation?
I’m just not sure how to start with remove the front strong inside plastic cover on new 2023 Rav full options
It’s all new to me
@@skytechm07 ruclips.net/video/fMnTuD4GyRo/видео.html here is a start.
@@skytechm07 I have a 2023 RAV4 I just got my comma 3x, are you able to help me please 🙏🏾
Can you do a full installation video for open pilot Rav4
Thank you
Thanks for watching! Unless I get a new unit or can help someone in person with a new installation, I am reluctant to take apart my installation in gear or damaging or stressing something out. It’s a dev kit and the hardware doesn’t feel particularly robust; running the cables through my panels feels like a a lot of stress to the wiring for example. But if I get the chance to help someone out, I will definitely upload!
Greetings again. So Live-Torque can adjust automated settings so that drivers won't have to manually adjust them as much? Sounds convenient. I'm sure that there are still kinks to work out, though. Meanwhile, here's to comparisons with e2e. Feel free to include a Street Fighter VS logo in the thumbnail for laughs. Sorry. I've been having Street Fighter in my head lately.
github.com/commaai/openpilot/wiki/Tuning
Normally you need to change values until the car physically executes what the software intends accurately. It takes some fiddling to get it right while checking on graphs and such; this will do away with that and make adjustments to align the software intention and physical execution. That’s the theory I guess, but I’m honestly not really sure - I still need to learn how to use pilot juggler.
Great idea with the Street Fighter visuals though!
Thanks as always for watching. Sorry I could not get any Digimon in. But keep you eyes peeled lol
@@bryan.deleon Thanks for the link. No doubt that there will be updates and patches for Live-Torque at some point. I suppose that you do have one software as your "main" for the time being. Had to throw in some fighting game jargon used by current players.
There's no rush to binge on Digimon. Even I needed time before I started liking the franchise.
I noticed the same thing. My, is always have a lower speed than my speedometer on my car. It's GPS not calibrated by some electronics. Every time I pass by the speed meter my comma is on point with that, then my speedometer is
Has this been fixed for you?