@@OwDenied on our sensibilities? our patience? i guess if i do start playing again, it will be so much worse than this, haha. at least it might make for good asmr.
We need 3 things: 1) a post game interview with Veryoldman 2) an entire series of Veryoldman Bronzeleague heros 3) FFA 8player Bronzeleague heros video I might enjoy this content a lot.
49:00 - the four kind of tech labs (I guess) 1) Techlab attached to a factory 2) Techlab attached to a barrack 3) Techlab attached to a spaceport 4) Techlab attached to nothing
Our hearts go out to all the Ultralisks who lost their lives chomping at the bit, desperate to do what they were born to do, but not being allowed to do so.
"Ok, now there's no reason MAGIC should lose this..." "Ok, now there's no reason Veryoldman should lose this..." "Ok, now there's no reason MAGIC should lose this..." "Ok, now there's no reason Veryoldman should lose this..." "Ok, now there's no reason MAGIC should lose this..." "Ok, now there's no reason Veryoldman should lose this..." "Ok, now there's no reason MAGIC should lose this..." "Ok, now there's no reason Veryoldman should lose this..."
I fell asleep before the last 5 minutes. In the morning I’m thinking “oh yah, Veryold had him beat/surrounded at the end”. But then I remembered your comment so came back to confirm. Wow
I'm in pure shock over the difference of skill of Gold vs Grand Masters. The gap is huuuge. In my prime I reached rank 1 Platinum at best so I was far from good but this game was impressive in so many ways 😂
@@JudoStev That is 100% true. People are always worse than they think they are when they actually watch their own gameplay. This still does not seem like Gold though. Gold players are usually more active and don't just sit around until max pop. These guys got to max pop and then still just sat around for 10 minutes at a time doing absolutely nothing.
57:46 oh my god. How is it that the sad song always has the perfect timing? Do you have it on a button or is it always coincidence? It hit so hard when that piano chord hits a second after that message prints on the screen: "why not respond? Did I block you?" my heart... my heart.
I saw the video open with reapers shoved into a corner so zerglings couldn't surround and I thought "it can't be that bad, terran knows how to hide from zergling surrounds." Then zerg built spine crawlers behind the mineral line and terran threw reapers into them to die and I realized I was very wrong.
VeryOldMan: "You complain about other A-moving because you have to micro your units to do better than an A-move. I complain about others A-moving because I have to micro my units to do worse than A-moving them. We are not the same."
I kind of remember when I realized that A-moving could be more effective than right clicking on a particular enemy. It really explained why I was so bad at Age of Mythology as a kid. I see someone still needs to learn this lesson, but can you teach a Veryoldman new tricks.
It's good to see games like this now and again because it helps put things in perspective - like you can really see how good the very best players really are cuz some people are playing the same game and the matches look like this
One would assume that the game was long enough, to reach the end of that learning curve..but it was pain till the end. Thanks for making us feel better
You know, I read the title, but I wasn't ready for this. I haven't played since Wings of Liberty and my APM is like 50 at best, and yet even I, who only ever got to low Diamond all those years ago, could probably beat them both at the same time. Just...send help, someone. Help them. Anyone at all. Maybe I should load this back up and see how far I get if this is the norm lol what in the world
I thought I was a deep bronze player. Now I know that I can climb my way to the top of the ladder. You are right, this is the worst of the worst BUT mission accomplished. You manage to make this game entertaining. I stand up as I applause for your commentary performance !!
Talking about being old, I remember playing Starcraft on Windows 98 with an AMD K6 233Mhz, 16MB of Ram, ATI 4MB Card + Voodoo 4MB (not needed for starcraft)... Logging on Battlenet with a Dialup 56K modem using free Dial up with an Ad window that I would snipe with an application. Those were my epic gaming days, which got a lot better once we got DSL internet. (like 100KBPS down and 10KBPS up)... that was high speed. (56K modems would give you around 4 or 5 KBPS Up and Down. Counterstrike beta5 ran and was playable on a 56k also, with a ping of around 180 to 220.
no way!! mate.. 9 more seconds and your video was 59 minutes and 59 seconds.. the same length as the match we were watching.. oye.. so close... yet 9 seconds away.
Well... I finished it. Over 4 sittings. That was extraordinarily painful. Winter - your professional and hilarious commentary and casting are what kept me coming back 😁
"Both players have managed to deserve a loss, but only one can claim it."
That one was as gold as this game.
"Oh no! He's microing"
I clicked, didn't look at the video length, watched for 20min, fell asleep, woke up, and the game is still going on...
damn it. spoilers. lol
This is not a game, it's a war
@@OwDenied on our sensibilities? our patience? i guess if i do start playing again, it will be so much worse than this, haha. at least it might make for good asmr.
You shouldn't have fallen asleep, because you should never go to bed angry
I'm glad you understand why I watch this series. is literally perfect for naptime
The moment VeryOldMan discovers the A move he's getting +300 mmr x)
He didn't need his keyboard taken away. He needed to discover the 'A' key.
Have you ever played with mouse only? Many bronze legaue heroes, or ex heroes, have.
He needed his mouse to be broken, or somehow remap the right click mouse button to the A key.
Corruptors were also set to move v a-move where they would have devastated the Medivacs and Vikings
15K 10K bank investing in mass spire/spores
I just imagine he doesn't have keyboard, just a mouse and one those little 10 key pads lol
Somebody: "Zerg is OP, you can simply A-Move"
Veryoldman: "A what?!"
"Oh you meant 'Simply make a move", that's what I've been doing all along!"
Hate that I actually lol'd at how perfectly representative your post is and knowing someone bit their tongue to stop from ranting about lurkers.
Veryoldmans MVP: Forgotten and ignored Lurkers
Magics MVP: Veryoldmans desire to micro manage
We need 3 things:
1) a post game interview with Veryoldman
2) an entire series of Veryoldman Bronzeleague heros
3) FFA 8player Bronzeleague heros video
I might enjoy this content a lot.
49:00 - the four kind of tech labs (I guess)
1) Techlab attached to a factory
2) Techlab attached to a barrack
3) Techlab attached to a spaceport
4) Techlab attached to nothing
Absolutely right.
Fourth is the backup Tech lab.
Someone should test if the buildings can go off the screen
4th reactor variant as well as a ghost academy
@@PJOZeus box just expands to accommodate
Or what i think - tech labs that were destroyed while bilted/or canceled
Our hearts go out to all the Ultralisks who lost their lives chomping at the bit, desperate to do what they were born to do, but not being allowed to do so.
"Ok, now there's no reason MAGIC should lose this..."
"Ok, now there's no reason Veryoldman should lose this..."
"Ok, now there's no reason MAGIC should lose this..."
"Ok, now there's no reason Veryoldman should lose this..."
"Ok, now there's no reason MAGIC should lose this..."
"Ok, now there's no reason Veryoldman should lose this..."
"Ok, now there's no reason MAGIC should lose this..."
"Ok, now there's no reason Veryoldman should lose this..."
End it with "Now both these players have reasons to lose this" XD
"both players have earned the loss but only one can claim it!"
You're asking the wrong questions...
"How are they gonna fuck it up?"
@@Joppsta360 The thing is with BLH you usually don't have to wait for very long for the answer to reveal itself.
I fell asleep before the last 5 minutes. In the morning I’m thinking “oh yah, Veryold had him beat/surrounded at the end”. But then I remembered your comment so came back to confirm. Wow
“1 hour bronze league heroes video, must be a Bo3?”
‹narrator›: it was not‚ in fact, a best of 3.
Lmfao I thought maybe it was more than one game too
as someone kinda new to the channel, i lost it at the switch up to "welcome back to the least professional starcraft" lol
Heh, you gotta check out his Bronze League Hero playlist then! You'll love it!
Oh yes, the games are few and far between, but when he gets one its realllly good.
My god… his refusal to “A” move was maddening
I knew what series I was watching. I've seen most of the episodes. But God did that make me mad.
I'm in pure shock over the difference of skill of Gold vs Grand Masters. The gap is huuuge. In my prime I reached rank 1 Platinum at best so I was far from good but this game was impressive in so many ways 😂
@@bobby4tw im in pure shock over the difference between gold and PLATINUM. Im in dire need of opponents like that
I hope the developers are as angry as I am right now that veryoldman bullied Ultralisks in such fashion.
Sitting on over 10k minerals and gas and you casually decide your mining base is more important than all your production facilities...a bold move.
That decision won the game lmao
@@sideways5153it would’ve won the game even more definite if it wouldn’t have been done that way
it seems to me that veryoldman just doesn't know about attack command, so he just right clicks.... that was so painful to watch....
There’s no way this is gold, the gold I play everyone sweating and I just die
i mean his macro was ok but how the hell lol
If watching my own replays has taught me anything, it's that I'm much worse/slower than I think I am during the game.
@@JudoStevThis. My brain is racing and my amp is 60.
@@JudoStev That is 100% true. People are always worse than they think they are when they actually watch their own gameplay. This still does not seem like Gold though. Gold players are usually more active and don't just sit around until max pop. These guys got to max pop and then still just sat around for 10 minutes at a time doing absolutely nothing.
It’s called bronze league hero’s
57:46
oh my god. How is it that the sad song always has the perfect timing? Do you have it on a button or is it always coincidence?
It hit so hard when that piano chord hits a second after that message prints on the screen:
"why not respond? Did I block you?"
my heart... my heart.
Yeah, he uses a soundboard and stuff. You can tell because he does battle music during intense moments too.
He's called Magic because he can make his whole army disappear any time he wants to.
Hear Hear!
veryoldman was a personal attack
But god damn this was a pain to watch. Please give us more.
It gave me alot of surprises. Far more than a pro gamer match. I enjoyed the pain it bringed
5:05 " As he takes the narrow path to make sure those units don't win the game" HHAHAHa amazing commentary
I died ☠️
He used the A key precisely three times, all in chat. He knows where it is, but maybe he only has one hand?
I think it was just the enemy coming nearby and units auto attacking without him controlling them
I saw the video open with reapers shoved into a corner so zerglings couldn't surround and I thought "it can't be that bad, terran knows how to hide from zergling surrounds." Then zerg built spine crawlers behind the mineral line and terran threw reapers into them to die and I realized I was very wrong.
Oh my god it's back
"We are not here to coach, but to experience" Quite deep life advice...
Tao te Winter
As a wise man once said: "If I'm ahead and I want to lose, I make Ultralisks (and then right click move them)"
The immortal, eternal words of IdrA
Absolutely painful to watch. He still has to learn A-click.
"but you have to consider" got a big laugh from me 8:10
This game is why Battle Aces didn't enable focus fire by default.
Lmao you know it
BUT OH NO HE'S MICROING! lmao. great stuff!
Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
52:30 So much pain is written all over your face.
There’s 4 different tech labs because a tech lab isn’t always attached to a building.
'Both players deserve a loss, but only one can claim it.' Daaaaaamn.
It feels like it's been too long since a good old fashioned BLH. Let's goooo!
I loved: "His APM sky rockets, as sky rockets are being built."
TPM “turrets per minute”
@@wrenandrews3782 This is even better!
Hahah xD, new to Winter? Welcome. I took a longass break myself, but I just couldn't resist a good ol fashioned Bronze League Heroes match xD.
OldMan's mind is going to be blown when he discovers how to a-move
if veryoldman taught me one thing in this cast: It's that Terran, as always, is far too OP. Even with immaculate micro.
🧢
What he says
Ultralist-Attracting Command Centers need to be nerfed!! Let zergs a-click again!!
This is a classic Zerg submission for an IODIS complaint, and a well deserved SUCK stamp 😂
@@hivetech4903 it's a joke lmao - Magic isn't sharing the secret technique of adding ultralist pheromones to his CCs to the rest of us after all!!
more bronze league heroes XD
Hey. Can you add these types of bronze matches to the end of your normal content so we can’t tell who wins based on the time remaining.
Every video will be 3 hours. The 5 game series ends 30 minutes in, the remaining time is the BLH.
@@Burred11 I would watch to the end every time.
@@BTHobbies I still do, but yeah, BLH is some of the most entertaining SC2 content out there.
Shorter ones can be selected
I use adblock to remove the timeline when I don't want spoilers.
49:10 tech lab under construction also counts as a different tech lab, so barracks, factory, starport, and building
"four spore and many hatcheries ago" was pure poetry
Totally agree. majestic commentary
"The war against the sea creatures will continue"... hahaha creasing up over here 😂😂
BROONZE LEAGUEEE HEEEEEEEEEEEEROES
not really the same without the intro tho fr
@@ryken7797 true
VeryOldMan: "You complain about other A-moving because you have to micro your units to do better than an A-move. I complain about others A-moving because I have to micro my units to do worse than A-moving them. We are not the same."
haha. :) Nice.
You would've thought someone capable of such grammar and punctuation with those last messages would have been capable of finding the "A" key...
More ultras? How many times do I need to teach you this lesson old man
Ahem, that’s very old man to you!
I do like that veryoldman is completely willing to throw away an army and rebuild it. That's genuinely good.
Always loved your content 🎉
3:25 "... the water defense depots we have here. Smartly done."
🤣🤣🤣
5:02 "so he takes the narrow path to making sure those units don't win the game" had me actually cackle
I kind of remember when I realized that A-moving could be more effective than right clicking on a particular enemy. It really explained why I was so bad at Age of Mythology as a kid. I see someone still needs to learn this lesson, but can you teach a Veryoldman new tricks.
Fortunately, ....... Unfortunately he has enough money to build about 12 dozen more ultras. had me dying
I've watched so many pro-games, I forgot how entertaining low-ranked games are.
I love how they re-establish their base like it's their existing main on the map.
50 kill hero lurker deserves a name. I shall call him Doug.
I'm so grateful you still do these!!!! Takes me back xD
The worst case of Akeyophobia I've ever seen. WoW. I've never seen anyone like that in Bronze.
It's like he failed by trying too hard instead of just letting them do their thing.
What is akeyophobia?
@@ko71k52 "A-key-o-phobia"
@@ko71k52 An irrational fear of the 'A' key.
"Tech Shrubbery" lmfao
Veryoldman doing the impossible and loosing to marines with ultralisks. Thank you for this magnificiant game.
that hero lurker was insane
Inspires me to try the "One lurker to rule them all" - strategy...
You should check out a recent Artosis video where he lost to a Zerg with 0 drones because of a lurker (ok 2 lurkers) lol
I screamed at 32:00 🤣🤣🤣
Those ultras really didn't like that OC
This video is a comment on the human condition, and how utterly incompetent we all are compared to the best of us.
It's good to see games like this now and again because it helps put things in perspective - like you can really see how good the very best players really are cuz some people are playing the same game and the matches look like this
@@chloesmith4065 to me it is just a reminder at how bad some people are, lol. Wouldnt have thought this was possible.
You know this is gonna be good after just the first minute.
I remember waiting outside gamestop with my step bro for the midnight release for sc2.
One would assume that the game was long enough, to reach the end of that learning curve..but it was pain till the end. Thanks for making us feel better
Thanks!
A Winter cast and it's not a Dark game? What's happening? Is the world coming to an end?
It is a dark game... Just not a Dark game 😅
Fifty marines were sacrificed to one lurker to halt the apocalypse.
veryoldman was using the gold league knowledge of, "You can't use the supply block strategy if you kill too many of your opponent's units."
You know, I read the title, but I wasn't ready for this. I haven't played since Wings of Liberty and my APM is like 50 at best, and yet even I, who only ever got to low Diamond all those years ago, could probably beat them both at the same time. Just...send help, someone. Help them. Anyone at all. Maybe I should load this back up and see how far I get if this is the norm lol what in the world
Yea, that was a rough watch. Like watching a bad train wreck in slow motion.
I'm really impressed that veryoldman sent this in. It's hard to send in a loss knowing it was still a great game to see.
@@chloesmith4065 I would have to agree. It shows a good bit of being humble and respectable on his part if he was the one that submitted it.
The right click spam is just.....how do you not realize that's what's getting you killed?
54:06 yeah that's how the game felt
How on earth has he learned how to hotkey base camera inject larva, but hasn't learned how to A-move?
Veryoldman got a perfect broodling surround before even having a spire. Thats impressive
"Banelings, even if you right click it's hard to go wrong"
Veryoldman: "Hold my water, i got this."
That anti-micro is quite painful, i bet the adrenalin was pumping! :) It was quite painful, i feel sorry for you.
Great cast of Bronze league, but you're the real hero Winter.
Hear Hear!
The amount of times I was watching the game, went "Alright, he won the big fight, finally game's over" only to see 20+ minutes left
I thought I was a deep bronze player. Now I know that I can climb my way to the top of the ladder. You are right, this is the worst of the worst BUT mission accomplished. You manage to make this game entertaining. I stand up as I applause for your commentary performance !!
Brings me back to bronze league heroes! Love it. Please do this more 👍
"Magic has completed his upgrade tree... and only 38 minutes in..."
The sarcasm was so so good.
“It’s one of you”
Bro what did we do to deserve this
Talking about being old, I remember playing Starcraft on Windows 98 with an AMD K6 233Mhz, 16MB of Ram, ATI 4MB Card + Voodoo 4MB (not needed for starcraft)... Logging on Battlenet with a Dialup 56K modem using free Dial up with an Ad window that I would snipe with an application.
Those were my epic gaming days, which got a lot better once we got DSL internet. (like 100KBPS down and 10KBPS up)... that was high speed. (56K modems would give you around 4 or 5 KBPS Up and Down.
Counterstrike beta5 ran and was playable on a 56k also, with a ping of around 180 to 220.
Your intro's get me so hyped for these games
Veryoldman has obviously never heard of Vipers, or A-move.
It's really very impressive that both players managed to so consistently find the worst possible decision in every given situation.
no way!! mate.. 9 more seconds and your video was 59 minutes and 59 seconds.. the same length as the match we were watching.. oye.. so close... yet 9 seconds away.
I can’t believe it, we finally have a bronze league hero’s video!
I'm crying. VeryOldMan has not received any incoming transmission in the end...
I love when people do impressive micro that ends up worse than if they'd hit "f2, a, leftclick on enemy third"
Well... I finished it. Over 4 sittings. That was extraordinarily painful. Winter - your professional and hilarious commentary and casting are what kept me coming back 😁
He must've been doing a mouse-only challenge. I refuse to believe a man of his age and experience couldn't find the "a" key.
Well he still could've clicked the attack command to a-move instead of just right clicking if that was the case.
@@CGDW2prob forgot it exist
Yeah this hurt to watch
With that economy he forgot to click on those upgrades. It was really hard to watch it. 😂
VeryOldMan clearly was trained by classic Command and Conquer.
Today, not tomorrow or next week...
Shut up Kamala.
Fantastic comments in this game. Also, that one Lurker...lol
OMG! I haven't laughed so much for a long time. Thanks for the epic humour and the fun time! 10/10
'Now you see me, and now you don't' - MAGIC's army.
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