keep up the good work young man, im 59 and still play SC since the day it was released...not very well but I still love the game so tyvm...learn a lot here from you....
Scv and drones can do it too and specifically against any melee unit like zerglings and zealots. But I’ve only ever seen Clem and Maxpax do it in recent memory.
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"That spread ! I can't believe its not butter" "unless Shin tries for major league baseball and throws super hard" Love your lines man ! It seems sooo hard to take down a pack of lurker from the ground ...
One hour in and I'm injecting my appreciation into the Lairgolitm to be here with the Queen Crew. They can sound like meanies at times, but we know that the Heart of Queens is pure gold.
The amount of Lurkers Zerg players are willing to throw away, in order to slightly damage some buildings in the main, never ceases to amaze and horrify me. A lot of Shin's victories were down to simply pre-splitting his Corrupters, which is another thing I'm constantly amazed even pro players don't do.
I love this kind of series, MaxPax and his incredible micro... thanks Winter for showing us these great games! I always laugh with your voices of Susan, Brenda and Karen XD, I enjoy it a lot! and I love your videos, keep it up! hugs!
I really hope that in the near future we get some sort of live event and winter would be able to get a cast In. Such a shame the peak of live esports came and went before winter had a following. This guy is truly a gem and if he had a counterpart that he vibed with i think that he could definitely be a "Tasteosis"level of entertainment with enough experience. Maybe one day. Btw maxpax game 1 super impressive
I think people don’t favor cannons because they take 15.7 seconds per nydus, but thats only 1.7 seconds to shave off via unit power, which can easily be done by 1 unit(or few probes) rather than 6+ warp-ins(3+ per nydus) every time.
Once you defend your base, you cannot move cannons to attack the opponent. if you build Zealots you can add them to your army and attack the enemy base.
@@glenmcgillivray4707 "Once you defend your base, you cannot move cannons to attack the opponent."←Why would you want to move the cannons to attack the opponent? The opponet is that they stay there all the time defending against nydus and not costing supply. If you summon zealots, and then move them out, you leave again a empty spot there nydus can spawn again, moving units to attack the opponent defeats the purpose of preventing nyduses... think before you talk.
@AlaskanHuzky it's 200 minerals defending a small radius, a nydus just outside of range is entirely safe, six zealots will defend a whole base while three cannons can defend a mineral line. Opportunity costs, I can use those zealots if the opponent stops using nydus. I cannot reposition cannons or use them offensively. regardless. Pros prefer mobile defense even when static defense is available.
I totally understand how you feel about responding to comments, I feel that way as well I've just made it a habit to respond to comments that come in during the first couple hours of a video's release, as well as most top comments, I think people enjoy when you respond to them Thank you for the videos, it's a daily ritual for me to watch your videos and youtube streams
Question about carriers: they die so easily- wouldn't it be worth not having to pay for interceptors ? What kind of difference would that make to protoss?
If Shin keeps climbing i'd love to see Shin vs Rogue Think ZvZ is the mirror match we've gone the longest without seeing now, was a tvt not too long ago, pvp a little before that I think, Zvz though? Crickets.
I only play Vs AI games for casual fun, but I think they should give protoss Shield Battery Overcharge AND Energy Overcharge, giving them nexus spells is a very good way to make up for their early game and army composition weaknesses without just making their power units broken.
Their power units are already on the verge of being broken on the ladder, which is extremely Protoss-dominated compared to Zerg. Their goal is to make Protoss more stable for defense at pro level, but not such an easy-hold defense button for the metal league plebs. So they don't want both abilities.
@@ZC.Andrew well aid, i also believe that they should balance sc2 around the Pro Meta Skillset, plebs will either enjoy the game or they wont. like me, casually playing the game for a decade.
Nah, shield battery overcharge felt like a darn cop-out for not giving shield battery 4/energy like medivac instead of 3, or an upgrade similar to caduceus reactor
@@dontpokethekenny I think it'd be cool to have a "casual mode" for vs AI games. It could be more relaxed and less balanced, and allow people to access more OP abilities for all the races - kinda like co-op but minus the commanders and played like 1v1s. That's a feature I wish was included.
I would pay $50 for Dark or Clem to play Co-Op with me. Unfortunately they could beat 4 people playing Archon mode in less than 5 minutes so Co-Op would take too long.
Hey Winter, I know you'll probably do it anyway, but I want you to know we appreciate the casts.
It reminds me of listening to Connie Mack on the AM as a child. 🤨
yeah of all the channels i follow this one is currently top tier
(he doesn't know what else he'd do with his life) but thank you!
yes, explicit thank you, Winter.
Word
still so funny to me that SHIN is top 5 Zerg in the world but him not getting Adrenal Glands is a running joke
If he gets into the finals of a major tournament, he will shock everyone by rushing to hive, get adrenal glands and all the spell casters :D
@@Daniel-rd6st And still lose 5-0 :PP
More like a light jogging joke :U
If Shin could only remember to research Adrenal glands, he would be the next Zerg Bonjwa.
Does Shin remember Adrenal glands upgrade?
@@minuteman21 nope
"a bunch of traumatized probes..." had me laughing so hard
I understand now. Not taking Adrenal Glands is Shin wearing his training weights. Imagine what he could do if he took those off.
In game 1, Adrenal Glands only finished just before 20 minutes. Hive was up before 7
That's actually lvl3 melee damage. He remembers the damage upgrades no issue but always forgets attack speed lol
“When Serral retires” is too real
Till then we have to play a nerfed to the ground race with no reliable AA 😂
37:23 Randy the Moral Support Predator Drone making all the difference! He doesn't always join the battle, but when he does, he makes it count!
keep up the good work young man, im 59 and still play SC since the day it was released...not very well but I still love the game so tyvm...learn a lot here from you....
2 reasons to watch Winter casting SHIN:
1.) Adrenal
2.) Switching to Shin POV and watch his reaction to the Dva announcer for the many times
26:00 what an incredible spread on those corruptors. Shin was able to perfectly kite the archon splash. It looked like a flock of actual birds.
Your uploads genuinely make my day a little bit better. Winter you're the GOAT
Gotta say I am really enjoying your casts. So much fun. So much knowledge. So much quirky commentary. It is Grandmaster Casting for sure!. Ty !
I like that shin likes hydras. They are a cool unit
I guess he will like the new dash ability.
Cool, but still garbage. objectively garbage for their cost
The fact that you can shove 100 probes in to 1x1 space is such a fork you to the zerg...
Scv and drones can do it too and specifically against any melee unit like zerglings and zealots. But I’ve only ever seen Clem and Maxpax do it in recent memory.
This time I remembered to like the video before Shin could forget to get Adrenal glands
Lmao
1:06:54 “I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere. Not like here. Here everything is soft and smooth.”
Looks like some good shin right here.
👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀 good shin go౦ԁ sHin👌 thats ✔ some good👌👌shin right👌👌there
👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀 good shin go౦ԁ sHin👌 thats ✔ some good👌👌shin right👌👌there👌👌👌 right✔there ✔✔if i do ƽaү so my self 💯 i say so 💯 thats what im talking about right there right there (chorus: ʳᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵗʰᵉʳᵉ) mMMMMᎷМ💯 👌👌 👌НO0ОଠOOOOOОଠଠOoooᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒ👌 👌👌 👌 💯 👌 👀 👀 👀 👌👌Good shin
"This wall-off is atrocious," hahaha - great games and cast. Much obliged, Winter.
"That spread ! I can't believe its not butter"
"unless Shin tries for major league baseball and throws super hard"
Love your lines man !
It seems sooo hard to take down a pack of lurker from the ground ...
Thanks!
One hour in and I'm injecting my appreciation into the Lairgolitm to be here with the Queen Crew.
They can sound like meanies at times, but we know that the Heart of Queens is pure gold.
We're feeling professional with the jacket today 😂
"Not that Protos would know what a door is ..." Oh I love it.
frl Shin needs to up that creep spread, in game 1 he never has ANY map control!
The comment about queen range when Serral retires 😂😂😂❤
Nice to see a balanced game for a change! And that means, no Terrans involved, with medivacs, ghosts kill it all and marines and marauders.
is Jimmy real?? all those years ive been wondering....
I think Jimmy along with Brenda and Susan are Winters Starcraft 2 alters that manifest from his DID
@@dimitriasimov356 Don't be ridiculous, Jimmy is just what he calls his wife.
Ofc he’s real. I’m his son, and he’s sitting right here.
Yes
Jimmy comes from an old Destiny sc2 meme
Search SC2 Jimmy nooooo Destiny
02:40 LMAO
where does he sleep? LOL
Been waiting for Serral to discover girls and fall off hard, maybe it's happened, Raynor the Rash maybe too many girlfriend. 🤪
@SD-jf7nb that will be a dark day for Zerg 😂
The amount of Lurkers Zerg players are willing to throw away, in order to slightly damage some buildings in the main, never ceases to amaze and horrify me.
A lot of Shin's victories were down to simply pre-splitting his Corrupters, which is another thing I'm constantly amazed even pro players don't do.
Game 1 is truly the most lore accurate ZvP.
If Protoss buildings could fly I think we would’ve seen a couple in the corners of the map in this series 💀
Lol the guy legit never researches the best zerg upgrade adrenal glands, shit makes Ling's DPS nuts
I miss how active Serral was
With some of these walls, I think we need to bring back the Pilon Efficiency and (of course) Necessary Infrastructure Safety rating
Stasis Ward behind the door. Might even give you time to kick out a sentry, if you haven't already, or recall Oracles.
Feat cpt dives!!! Man of culture indeed
Shin missing the killer instinct that dark, rogue, raynor, and serral have. Drawn out winning games for no reason.
Yeah he seems to have issues closing the game out. He's like a fighter who knocks his opponent out but then lets him get back up
He was lucky this is pre-patch, because leaving toss alive long enough for new mothership will become the bane of his existence when that goes live.
To be fair, Serral also tends to play the long game instead of finishing it, which has cost him games in the past.
I love this kind of series, MaxPax and his incredible micro... thanks Winter for showing us these great games! I always laugh with your voices of Susan, Brenda and Karen XD, I enjoy it a lot! and I love your videos, keep it up! hugs!
Love to see this kind of outcome -- please more like this! Close game, Shin's looking up!
You made me laugh so much during this series. My face hurts.
@ 8:20 so much for hotkeys :D just joshin
This was so good. I learn so much lol
I always love watching your casts Winter, thanks so much!
I really hope that in the near future we get some sort of live event and winter would be able to get a cast
In. Such a shame the peak of live esports came and went before winter had a following. This guy is truly a gem and if he had a counterpart that he vibed with i think that he could definitely be a "Tasteosis"level of entertainment with enough experience. Maybe one day.
Btw maxpax game 1 super impressive
you're humor is so on point. great stuff
Why not build cannons in every place that a nydus could spawn? Maxpax has lost more money dealing with those nyduses than if he had done with canons.
I think people don’t favor cannons because they take 15.7 seconds per nydus, but thats only 1.7 seconds to shave off via unit power, which can easily be done by 1 unit(or few probes) rather than 6+ warp-ins(3+ per nydus) every time.
@@MarsStarcruiser You don't have to micro if you use canons. Nor warp in behind when you need to warp in in the front.
Once you defend your base, you cannot move cannons to attack the opponent. if you build Zealots you can add them to your army and attack the enemy base.
@@glenmcgillivray4707 "Once you defend your base, you cannot move cannons to attack the opponent."←Why would you want to move the cannons to attack the opponent? The opponet is that they stay there all the time defending against nydus and not costing supply. If you summon zealots, and then move them out, you leave again a empty spot there nydus can spawn again, moving units to attack the opponent defeats the purpose of preventing nyduses... think before you talk.
@AlaskanHuzky it's 200 minerals defending a small radius, a nydus just outside of range is entirely safe, six zealots will defend a whole base while three cannons can defend a mineral line.
Opportunity costs, I can use those zealots if the opponent stops using nydus. I cannot reposition cannons or use them offensively. regardless. Pros prefer mobile defense even when static defense is available.
The Rose Art joke brought up scars that I forgot I had, thanks Winter.
Love ya Winter! Thank you for your content!
Thankyou
Now i can sleep
These cast are fucken great. Thanks for renewing my interest in Starcraft
I couldn’t imagine living and working with Jimmy and those queens
"SHIN has solved StarCraft 2's hardest matchup" RXN: But... Shin doesn't play as Protoss?
Late from work but I see MaxPax = Automatic Like 👍
I like the song with the clarinet. Clarinet goes hard.
Laid up in hospital, and because of you, my day was just a little bit better
thx :)
I totally understand how you feel about responding to comments, I feel that way as well
I've just made it a habit to respond to comments that come in during the first couple hours of a video's release, as well as most top comments, I think people enjoy when you respond to them
Thank you for the videos, it's a daily ritual for me to watch your videos and youtube streams
I can't keep track of which patch we're on, nor do I know what has been changed/changed back. Which cyclones are we on currently?
'If thats some of that good SHIN youre looking for,...'
maaaan, that joke about adrenogland was looow, but true lol
You always ask Jimmy where we are at, I think you should ask Brenda once In a while shower her some love 😂
Those matches felt personal
This is some of that good Shin that I'm looking for!
Winter you’re the best keep doing what you’re doing pleased 🙏
I was waiting for you, Maan! :)
For a Protoss, MaxPax has some serious Fantasy GG timing to him.
Question about carriers: they die so easily- wouldn't it be worth not having to pay for interceptors ? What kind of difference would that make to protoss?
That facepalm moment was so real 😂
You got my like on 44:02 🤣
I'm absolutely loving these match ups!! No Terran. Amazing games
If Shin keeps climbing i'd love to see Shin vs Rogue
Think ZvZ is the mirror match we've gone the longest without seeing now, was a tvt not too long ago, pvp a little before that I think, Zvz though? Crickets.
adrenal glands is 20 minutes away LMAO
I only play Vs AI games for casual fun, but I think they should give protoss Shield Battery Overcharge AND Energy Overcharge, giving them nexus spells is a very good way to make up for their early game and army composition weaknesses without just making their power units broken.
Their power units are already on the verge of being broken on the ladder, which is extremely Protoss-dominated compared to Zerg. Their goal is to make Protoss more stable for defense at pro level, but not such an easy-hold defense button for the metal league plebs. So they don't want both abilities.
@@ZC.Andrew well aid, i also believe that they should balance sc2 around the Pro Meta Skillset, plebs will either enjoy the game or they wont. like me, casually playing the game for a decade.
Nah, shield battery overcharge felt like a darn cop-out for not giving shield battery 4/energy like medivac instead of 3, or an upgrade similar to caduceus reactor
@@dontpokethekenny I think it'd be cool to have a "casual mode" for vs AI games. It could be more relaxed and less balanced, and allow people to access more OP abilities for all the races - kinda like co-op but minus the commanders and played like 1v1s. That's a feature I wish was included.
1:12:03 lurker ascends 🫡
I wouldn't describe my support as "amazing", but you have it nonetheless.
Autolike, I haven't played sc2 since 2011 and I've regained interest from watching your videos winter! Keep making videos
Futurama reference? Winter is a boomer.
what's winter's mic? just the elgato thingy?
Thanks Winter, my day is indeed a little bit better!
great t shirt.
and I hope for Queen's +1 when Serral retires too
The fact that 13 protoss units can survive against 60+ zerg units with half the overall supply and half the income for 20 minutes feels...odd?
I would pay $50 for Dark or Clem to play Co-Op with me. Unfortunately they could beat 4 people playing Archon mode in less than 5 minutes so Co-Op would take too long.
those 2 Lurkers that escaped!
winter! have you seen the sc2 bot games? they're improving and a super interesting watch imo. Would love to see you cast some :)
Have a great day buddy!
Well played.
Is there Brenda merchandise
OMG, FIFTY DKP MINUS! 😂
If you loved the onyxia video make sure to check out "razergore gone wrong" and his other video from molten core lol.
"Lets be more real, 37th birthday" 😭
ideal is to do illusions of archon mixed with reals
with Shins upswing in the ranks, at what point is he no longer the Underling?
psi storm is a hell of a drug
It's not selfish, it's self-care
queens,+1 range.. oookay, sc2 should do the update soon
Winter going up and down his soundboard at the end of game 2 was something I approve of - but why is there no "game over man, game over" ?
he also needs a "can't keep getting away with it!"
will he....?
He did not.
Ah yes, the typical maxed out zerg can't kill a protoss with 2/3rds of their supply stalemate.
Does Zerg still use Marauder to fight P?
Thank You
Om nom nom
Shin is so.. creative
I'll always root for MaxPax, I'm a big fan of mystery