Clem gets CANNON RUSHED in a StarCraft 2 Tournament!
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- Опубликовано: 1 июл 2024
- Best-of-3 series of StarCraft 2 from the ESL Open Cup Europe between Clem (Terran) and boanaan (Protoss). Clem is the clear favourite going into these games, but he did not expect the cheesy Protoss build orders from boanaan... Starting with a Cannon Rush in game 1.
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This was much more fun to watch than standart macro game.
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Indeed!
Seriously. No one wants to watch turtle terran
This is more mike a micro game
100% normal games can be stale
That entire first 7 and a half minutes I was smiling and lol irl. That was great.
I have the utmost respect for Clem, Serral and all the higher echelon SC players, but this was refreshing and fun to watch.
Clem getting cannon rushed 3 times: That expression... Am I perspiring?... No. It's just the rain. This fool could never make me sweat.
I really enjoy that Boanaan realized at some point there's no chance for him to come on top so he went all in with his stuff
I would say that Bonaan didn't really 'realise' it so much as he knew that from the start. Bonaan is a cannon rush-only player, and he does not do any other strat. He has various variants of cannon rushes, but they are all cannon rushes. He is around Rank 50 to Rank 25 GM, and if his cannon rush fails he loses to the same level of player, so he already knows he cannot possibly defeat a pro, especially one of the best players like Clem, in a normal game.
Damn that cannon rush was crazy
Please cast more of this dude.
I am simple minded. I see cannon rush, i click.
I love watching Boanaan videos on Pig's channel but I never expected to see this fantastic smooth brain genius on Lowko's channel! Let's Gooooooooo!
when you know youre outclassed just have fun
9:08 That micro was so clean.
I love this series.
Trust me if there's one thing you learn cannon rushing it's how to micro your workers
@@ProbeScout versus Clem?
@@SaltpeterTaffy wdym?
@@ProbeScout I doubt anyone learns how to micro against Micro Jackson just from cannon rushing. You're not going to say it's easy, right?
@@SaltpeterTaffy I was talking about the context of workers. There's certainly things to be said, but in general cannon rushing you learn more micro techniques than most other people do, like most of the people I trust to say adept shade dodge mines are cannon rushers, over many pros, and there are some specific micro stuff many I know practice with. I think many cannon rushers likely have less practice with large scale battle micro.
I think boanaan had a decent shot in game 2 if they’d expanded instead of going for double proxy gate at the end there. I mean you’re still trying to beat Clem, which is going to be a hell of a challenge, but I think it would’ve been better to just expand instead of sending another probe across to spend more resources on the other side of the map.
Yeah, most likely that would have been the better option. Really the problem was earlier when boanaan wasn't committing to overwhelming the bunker in range or using cannons to outrange, and that caused a lot of trouble. Personally, I think using range on the bunker would have been the better call there, and his tech just got delayed
Bonaan is an only-cannon rush player. He has invested heavily into the art of cannon rushing, and if the cannon rush fails he might as well give up because he's never beating another player on his level in a macro game, lest of all Clem.
You can just feel the moment when "playtimes over" hits lol
I remember Harstem feeling helpless against to this same cannon rusher. He lost like two or three consecutive games from the same strategy from Boanaan.
For everyone else who missed it…
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The EVERYONE after HELLO is missing. :(
@@WeItenspinner good point. Edited. 😁
My eye twitched when he didn’t say it.
In the last years he prettimuch never does the full intro...
That was so unexpected haha. Can't believe Boanan tried that in a tournament.
ALL HAIL BOANAAN
Now MaxPax is going to do it to him just to give him flash backs :)
Thanks for the video, Lowko. Appreciate the excellent content as always. ❤
Fun to watch! In the last game if Boanan had kept Tempests at the proxy, and started building up stalker count in preparation for the counterattack a bit sooner, and put the stasis ward as a fall back for stalkers instead of out in its own, he could have had a two base to one advantage and lost to Clem much more slowly.
Love the great content man! Keep it up!
Boanaan has great micro sometime, like when he escaped his probe by cancelling 3 buildings, but quite poor at other times. He did not harass as much as he could and lost some of his units without mooving them. I'm sure he can improve his cheeses again !
When I saw the title, and knowing Clem plays MaxPax all the time, I immediatelly though MaxPax had decided to play a match for fun with the guy.
Smooth brained Boanan showing some big boy brain wrinkles
Pls cast Thermy vs Serral Maxpax and Clem, and tell us if a couple is a group of two or a group of three.
That's no cannon rush, it's a battle station 😂
clem :"really... ?"
boanaan :"nah....x)"
I was so tired when I watched this, the Nextus for the pylon next to the nexus made me laugh really hard
Wait a minute
If sky protoss is skytoss...
cheese protoss should be...
... cheetoss 🤯
Boannon.... anon,... You will be called BOANNON
This is a breath of fresh air in such established Terran lategames. I enjoy the kassive macro fights but especially when they're not the standard. Love the spice
Let's go another lowko video!
I don't really know why people think of it as 'cheese', it's as valid a tactic as anything else imo. If anything why get bogged down in an uncertain attritional war when you could finish it quickly. It was a pleasure to watch Boanaan play, I think arguably his biggest mistakes were: a) Either not cutting his loses and 'running' or b) why put your infrastructure in the one area where your opponent has to counter-attack in order to break out? Like that fleet beacon; cos his pants were down after that. I love how he was eco-ing behind his crazy 'all-in's'.
You should look up Harstem's games where boanan coaches him how to cannon rush
"He is now rank 69, which is pretty NICE!" :)
The content is very interesting. It's just amazing
You did manage to get a cannon rush! Good job :3
you may not like it, but this is what peak Protoss performance looks like
I've never had protos cheese. We don't have any of those fancy cheeses where I live. I bet it's got a nutty flavor.
Great game to be seen!!!!
Lowko is casting this game..
Loved it
A good cannon rush is sooooo annoying 😭
Shield batteries will get nerfed
You know how tall people tend to run a lot faster because they cover more ground per stride? Zealots should have a greater base movement speed than marines. Its silly that they dont.
good first game
I do not get why clem did not put a bunker from the beginning in game 1, that stops every cannon rush
why is clem pulling two SCV's off the mineral line and just putting them on patrol. Is it solely to prevent the probe from warping in a structure?
at least in wood league just assume they will be terran and cannon rush to psi storms is just hella effective.
incidentally storm is good against about everything that is good against tempests. Then again, just about everything is good against tempests
@@ProbeScout psi storm is a hell of a drug
@technodrone313 thank goodness we don't have 160 damage psistorms anymore
I cant tell if Tempests are a shit unit with very limited use cases or if the Viking is OP.
More likely the first one
Both.
They're just really bad, can only work with the cannons and batteries, even still it's in unfavored match up for the tempest. The only thing you can really do is keep the distance and use vision to pick off
I've never hear anyone higher than Platinum league scrub saying Vikings are OP 😂
@@hivetech4903 That still stands; I dont play StarCraft. I have watched competitive gaming since 480p. I am an analyst and have a propensity in picking up patterns. I have watched enough StarCraft in the last 20+ years to recognize a potential balance contention point. There is an argument for the Viking in PvT considering most Protoss units are mechanical. Few Protoss low and mid tier units are incapable of shooting up. And the "siege mode" of vikings allow it to be a ground and and Air unit, attack ground and air units. AND be picked up by a Medivac. They can be produced quickly and en masse and 2 at a time from a single structure. Despite this, I did offer the suggestion that Tempests are severely underpowered and/ or have utility issues. Im not sure if you intentionally missed that, or if youre just one of those keyboard warriors.
Advising that to lift up a base from a cannon rushed area is quite bad. Unless the rusher is a dumb brute, building nothing than cannons and does not expand, this would only ensure a massive economy and production advantage to the toss cannon rusher. And I cant imagine that working againts bunker eushers either.
Dis respecting a marrine spammie, with cannonrush, and making him use the other variaties that Terran has to ofer makes a nice game for sure, anyway!
clem got pubs treatment
Stormgate will never be interesting to watch if stuff like this cant happen
Simon says to watch more high Lvl SC2. Guess I have to!
I'd love to see a nexus on the natural for the super battery
I was kinda wondering what would happen if protoss started their expansion base where the rush is staged, or much closer. There's an undiscovered element to make this cheese a real strategy.
@@eddiekalista3222 Nah its been tried a million times - it only works at low level play. Proxy Nexus is so expensive that it delays units by a huge amount, pretty much ending the cheese. A better way is making a Nexus as the first proxy building in the opponents main, then probes and zeolots are recalled to it. Unfortunately its countered by a bunker next to the CC, also doesn't work at high level.
@@hivetech4903 But Bonaan expanded behind in all three games. Since he is to build a Nexus anyways, why not proxy it so super batteries can be an option? His play style is all-in anyway, too committed that it's virtually impossible to back to a normal game and eventually win after his opponent cleared all his proxy buildings.
@@eddiekalista3222 uThermal tried it once and won the game by this way. So I can't help wondering if it can be used in higher levels.
@@kittyflier8338 Its still the delay. On most maps like Game 1 for example there's no space to build a proxy Nexus as well as all the support structures - unless you don't build as much production / defense until later which means instant gg before the Nexus is up.
Game 2 he didn't expand & failed early.
Game 3 he has enough space but there are still problems: he couldn't mine from it meaning marginally less production. Also it would mean he is committing less to the cheese if he is spending energy on Overcharge, which only lasts 14 seconds & the Terran can just back off from it, as opposed to spending energy on chrono to get more units faster.
Ultimately if it worked it would've been done, at this level these guys practice strategies 12 hours a day.
Les go bo 🎉❤😂😂😂 if I wasn't already subbed id sub again
I have to ask, did you increase the brightness on this one? , not a complain, just curious.
BRING BOANAN BACK TO YOUR VIDEOS
Each time you don't open with ♫Hello everyone my name is Lowko♫ I feel slightly disappointed
This is sad. boanaan executed that really well, but Tempest is a dipshit unit that really need to at least do splash damage or something. Clem certainly really did one hell of a job, but still...this kind of game really shows how far Protoss are behind when it comes to balance.
And yet, some week ago protoss got something like 53% winrate at pro lvl against Terran
Let's go!
Boanaan watched a little too much the cheesiest man alive
Is that the Harstem series? Because Bonaan actually tutored Harstem in cannon rushing at least twice. I'm not sure if he watches the series, but I doubt it was an influence to his cannon rush decision which he had been doing since the start of the game.
@@hetaresgaming7771 i don't really remember if he coached harstem but yeah i know, it was a joke, as a bad protoss i consider him the hero who punishes zergs for their 12 pools and terrans for their all ins
Immortals are good against armoured units not mechanical ones.
Clem is disgusting good
agreed. clem was a misclick or two away from losing 2 and 3. I really wanna see if Boanaan can refine cannon rush enough to crack top 50 or top 25.
What if it turns out that the actually best way to play _is_ to just cannon rush and that becomes standard?
Not vs Terran, for a lot of reasons. On some maps could be an ok thing to really put your opponent off guard, especially with pros being unpracticed vs cannon rush in my experience. Honestly I prefer cannon rushing a pro- toss player rather than a high GM NA toss
@@ProbeScout Dude 100%. We kind of deserve it - our worst cheese works best on eachother lol.
What do you mean "what if it turns out"? These guys play 12 hours a day for years so they can win money lol, you really think that wouldn't be the standard by now if that was plausible?
@hivetech4903 any cannon rusher will tell you as much, particularly when talking about Terran
I'd believe it if you say it's Has's new name😂
It's not Has. Additionally, Has uses various different protoss cheese, but Bonaan is a strictly only cannon rush player, and arguably the most successful only-cannon rush player at the moment.
@@hetaresgaming7771 You mean Bonaan only play TR even against other players?
@@kittyflier8338 Cannon Rush. Yes, he plays only cannon rush and nothing else. He is of a handful of players that do only cannon rush builds; instead of learning normal build orders and so on, they have dedicated their time into refining and perfecting cannon rush. When new maps comes out, the first thing they do is to explore cannon positions on the map. I believe the most famous of this group of people is printf, though he has taken a step back in the scene, and bonaan is the most prevalent top GM ranked player at the moment.
@@hetaresgaming7771 Wow thanks. That's something new to me.
If Clem can lose to a cannon Rush, that makes me feel much better about my ladder matches lol
And he loses as Terran, who have quick tools to deal with : I wonder what Serral would do.....
hahahah what the ... hahahahaha,
nice 3rd game... lol hahaha
why game 2 protoss cancel the initial gateway???!
When you go for the bunker, you have to go all in for it. Really I think Boanaan actually had a very middle of the ways bunker response which put him behind
I am already upset. Where is the best greeting ever, Lowko? 😢😢😢
I really feel like Boanaan is on to something, especially with game 1. Most cannon rushes are just a pylon with cannons, just hoping to win the skill check victory. Instead, walling off with Gateways, which immediately started producing more harassment units was genius. I wanna see them keep refining this cannon rush style. Especially since they rushed all 3 games, and Clem was very close to losing games 2 and 3. If you can get that close to beating the top Terran with cheese they are expecting, there's a real strategy worth exploring.
Boanaan only cannon rushes. He has many different variants of cannon rush, but it's always a cannon rush.
He's onto something. Clem was very close to losing games 2 and 3, and saved it through some insane decision making and micro. I think he would've closed either of those games against anyone not in the top 3 of each race. A cheese strategy that works that well against the top Terran who is expecting that cheese needs to be explored more.
@@eddiekalista3222 Game 2 & 3 were not even remotely close, not sure what you're talking about... just because Clem can't instantly win doesn't mean his eco & army supply wasn't ahead the whole game (which they were). Clem was easily winning and the cheeses were massive failures.
There is no refining a weak donkey build. Clem was not expecting it in game 1 so made several mistakes in not dealing with the probe and missing a bunker. Taking a map by surprise is about as good as these players can get, but they've been refining those cheese builds for years & there's a reason they can't close out the whole match and never win money.
The only player who fights Clem with Toss is Maxpax for the simple fact that he plays twice as much as him, Toss is garbage, the only way to pressure a Terra is for him to play worse than you, like Clem vs Maxpax if he plays If it was balanced, poor Clem wouldn't win a single game. Remember that before Clem played toss and didn't beat anyone, he just switched to Terran. I would like Maxpax to switch to Terran. I think the nerfs wouldn't take long. Lol.
Earliest i have been.
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interest in watching something new.
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Getting cannon rushed as Terran shows that your skills are on silver league level.
Clemydia is laughable.
yes of course, he probably just got lucky by hitting top 1 World Terran :D
no such thing as number 1 or etc, ceptuxuax, do, b,e outx, can do, be, outx etc any nmw and any s perfect
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trying to canon rush and or cheeese is dumb and boring.
It’s a fun change of pace. There’s dozens of standard games to watch from each tournament. Seeing new styles of cheese is refreshing.
You've been cannon rushed alot, haven't you?
Feeding the troll i have only one thing to say: as are you
@@rogue-null this isn't new styles of cheese.
@@lordlopikong6940 no. but people do it for easy mmr.
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