Why it’s time to drop WhatsApp and switch to Signal
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- Опубликовано: 9 янв 2021
- In this episode, we explore why it’s time to drop WhatsApp and switch to Signal.
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Switched to signal and found my wife already had an account there which was very surprising
Very intriguing... this is either suspicious or confirms that she's a keeper.
😂
Suspect bro!
There's an imposter among yall
she is hella sus!
The guy that made WhatsApp left the company after Mark bought it.
Signal was started by the guy who made WhatsApp.
Thanks for sharing. I would add a little context. Moxie started Signal but both him and Brian (from WhatsApp) founded the Signal Foundation (Brian donated 50M).
Yes. Find us a alternative to facebook
Why did he sold Whatsapp in the first place to the creep Mark F*ckerburg!?
Is it true?
@@sunknudsen what if that ugly monster Fuckerburg in few months or year make an offer that Moxie and Brian can’t refuse 🤣⁉️
Facebook is long gone. Years ago. Yesterday I dropped WhatsApp for signal, and convinced 6 family members to come with. Screw Facebook and WhatsApp
many people I know are bailing also - it is simply stupendous - telegram and Signal are gaining 10s millions of users a DAY. People are dropping Google search for DuckDuckGo etc...this is a revolution/revolt against big tech. It is nothing to do with Trump - people are sick of Big Tech's unaccountable power and arrogance.
Me too!!
@@earthredalert DuckDuckGo is way better when you are searching specific things. Just in general not annoying unlike google
Exactly! I've been slowly degooglelizing (if dats a word 😂) myself for weeks now! I use duckduckgo instead of chrome, i use hotmail instead of gmail nd i disabled all permissions for all google services on my device... D next step is to buy a phone dat doesn't have google services built in out d box....
The reason for such drastic move is an experience I had a few weeks back... I was doing some fiddling on my phone when i stumbled into my account nd i swear i had never been dat shocked in my life! All my web activities from as far back as 2015 was being saved! Note that between 2015 nd now i've changed devices about 6 times nd even d websites i visited then nd forgotten about were all literally logged in to my google profile! And my comments, all my liked videos... There were just so much i can't say everything here.
"Do you trust Mark Zuckerberg?" Hell, no!!!
@GreenJordan 30 Signal works pretty well so far 👍🏽
@The Reaper Production I blame the parents--primum mobile.
No 😅
xD No Homo...
Wooow I've already dropped the whole Facebook ecosystem 😂
IG is my addiction bro, can't drop it. 7 years no Facebook though, 2 days no WhatsApp
Me too!
Me too
did you use Instagram? if yes then what app did you replace it with?
So many artists on IG, that’s why I can’t stop using it
I deleted my instagram acc two years ago. and now deleted my whatsapp acc, and let me tell u something: GOOD RIDDANCE !
Good luck trying to get them to completely remove your data profile from their servers 😒
Amazon are a nightmare for it.
How do I delete my Instagram account?
@@edowitch4703 help.instagram.com/370452623149242
That's what I did. I notified my contacts and made the switch. Thanks for the infos as usual 👍🏻
Great video. Ironically, just yesterday I deleted WhatsApp. Thank you.
How is that ironic ?
I dropping all technology and now will be just using pen and paper.
Use pigeons
Hahah you might be on to something... Hand Delivery as well
Lol, you cracked me up.
Stupid
Letters
How am I gonna convince friends and family to switch when they don't care because "I got nothing to hide" or "whatever they wanna see they see, nothing they haven't probably seen before"
oh man I hear you! Mine too! They don't understand that this is dictatorship !
We call those people sheep on the eay to the slaughterhouse.
That's the biggest problem and not only with friends and family, but it's the same with coworkers
same problem i am facing
@@VibezVideo yeah right...this is the only way to make them think the adverse effect of fb algorithm in coming time,
Hey Sun, thanks for the great video. It’s awesome to see the number of views this has and your sub count is shooting up along side. I’ve been binging a lot of your older videos and they’re extremely helpful.
We should also have a alternative to RUclips as well.
odysee seems pretty good
odysee
Let's not ignore Vimeo, a platform that it's intentions from the first moments of its birth was to promote actual professional, unique and artistic content. The amount of pure human expression you can find there is beyond your imagination. The "Staff Picks" section features every now and then very interesting film projects you typically don't see too often on RUclips. You have to dig very deep to find original content on this platform and thus lose your time doing so.
There is youmaker
New tube and biteshoot.
The hard part is convincing people who don't care about privacy to switch too... When everyone around you (here, at least) is using WhatsApp, it feels weird to say you don't use it. Rather, you're using an app they've never heard of...
Exact same problem for me, Its all well and good making changes and being super private, but if you can't communicate with anyone else whats the point?
Hell, I can't convince people to even go to Telegram.
Glad I came across your channel, subscribed !
Great summary, much better than mine! I switched to Signal a few months ago now but I'm still a little bit concerned Jack Dorsey is one the shareholders... I'm also moving away from all Google services too such as G Drive and G Mail. I want to move way from RUclips too but it's the only way I get the news! And most other platforms don't have the user base yet.
Sun thanks again for sharing, I have been downloading Signal, looks really fine, and about to remove What's App and notifying my contacts....Cheers!
That's amazing Vincent! I am so very happy that, together, we're cleansing our lives from overreaching apps.
03:30 "There is nothing right about Facebook."
Before Covid I was traveling and living in Africa and Kingston, Jamaica and everyone there uses WhatsApp as their main way to communicate. Facebook, Instagram are the main ways for most people to see the work that I'm doing in these poor communities. Its the main way I connect. I understand the security issues, but when you travel overseas, they are a lifeline. I do have Signal as well, but regardless of these security issues, they have been a lifeline for me.
Hello Sun, love the content, keep it up!
I have learnt more and more from you about privacy and security. Before even watching your videos I didn’t use much social media however now I’m avoiding them all even more.
Out of all the different social media platforms I want to use Instagram. I would love to see some videos deep dive into each platform and discus perhaps alternatives or ways to try and balance the convenience and privacy of each. Thank you!
The time to switch is now.
It's now or never
You should do a video on social media platforms you'd use or recommend
ok pakalu papito
I recommend your local pub. 😉
Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey has pitched for downloading encrypted messaging app Signal
Says it all
With JD attached to it....RUN.....& keep running!
Twitter is a pos, I am planning to cancel it next
He posted a picture of Signal being the new #1 downloaded app after Parler was colluded against. He's basically laughing at Parler getting blocked, not so much an endorsement for Signal (WhatsApp competitor) but a poke at Parler (Twitter rival)
Jack dorksey is a POS!
My issue with signal is, Dorsey parts owns it, hence the gloating...
Sun, thank you for this great video. I really enjoy your content. What I’d love to know is: if you’re one of the people who have used WhatsApp, facebook, and Instagram, how do we get out of it completely? Can we ask Facebook, Instagram and WhatsApp to delete any data they have on us or do we just have to live with the fact that it’s out there now? I know that there is a way to request deletion, but I wonder if you’d recommend a specific approach. All the best from Germany
How do we get out of it completely? Great question! Let me give this one some thought.
Practically it's impossible due to amount of data and databases architecture. It's cost less to you to keep all this data than deleting
You could delete everything but facebook will keep a copy forever anyway. Just delete your accounts so no new messages are sent.
I dropped Facebook (Messenger Included), Instagram, and Whatsapp a couple of years ago and I'm so happy with my decision! Started using Signal a year back and I feel my privacy is back:)
Dropping it right away. I don't have anything other than RUclips now, will not miss any of them!
A lot of HongKongers (including myself) have switched from WhatsApp to Signal. More and more people have started to get MeWe in substitution to Facebook.
Yes.. yes.. yes.. stupidity, switching to Signal but keep using Facebook, Instagram, Tinder, Bumble and whatever else
4:55
"[...] misstep of humanity [...]"
Nice.
Signal rocks, and it just keeps getting better. Switched months ago as I withdrew from FB, Twitter et al.
Signal is fantastic. I've been looking into Minds for social media and it seems great for privacy.
Here in Brazil i have signal to talk to my mother, telegram for some groups, and to talk with a few more people and whatsapp to talk to the rest of my family and other people. But I'm going to uninstall whatsapp, it might be tough in the beginning, but if enough people leave whatsapp, more companies will stop forcing people to use whatsapp for customer service. It's like now you're forced to use whatsapp, too many people use it for important stuff, I worked in the Brazilian ellection and we used whatsapp to communicate. This needs to end.
They all say at the beginning it is safe and latter on all the info are out in the public. 😱😱
You just spoke my mind bro....I just researched the founder only to see he was supporting black lives matter and ANTIFA protests which made me reason he is uninformed libral who can't stand 5 minutes of CIA NSA pressure...if they could blackmail chief justice Roberts to become basically a puppet i don't think this signal guys can stand....well let's say for the time being let's have an alternative......meanwhile check out Kingschat
@@finefranky lol its open source, you can read the code and many governments already pressured signal to make a backdoor but they denied and were banned for being too secure
@@finefranky Doesn't matter if their servers get compromised since their client is open source and audited to encrypt everything before sending it on the internet, they will not be able to cheat. But yes for that you will have to at least once meet your friends and ensure that three shared id is the same.
I'm from Portugal and i face the same problem like others commenting here: it's EXTREMELY difficult to make people drop off WhatsApp and join Signal (or even Telegram; don't know which one is better).
Now, it seems that Facebook/WhatsApp said is that this new privacy policy won't affect the Europeans due to the GDPR but the truth is that i already received the notification about the new privacy policy several times with the options "Accept" or "Not now"...
We all know that they do that because they know many people don't even read, don't care, or by accident they hit the "accept" option...
Due to GDPR, i don't believe they really care about it; if they can't go by one side, they try to go by other side.
I've been trying to convince people to change but unsuccessful. Like a friend said: "Some years ago i tried to convince people to migrate from WhatsApp to Telegram but at some point i gave up because no one has do it".
Thanks Sun! I have been telling all of my friends to make the switch. Some don't want to try....they have NO IDEA how draconian the new WhatsApp Terms of Service are....
Thanks for caring and for trying your best to ignite change.
I recommend ProtonMail as well. Drop google
Thanks gonna download...
The only one who really love and thank WhatsApp at this moment is Signal 🤣
For me the biggest problem to dropping WhatsApp is simply that no one else of my Friends and Contacts in general really cares about their privacy and what data WhatsApp/Facebook is collecting about them. Im going to switch now too but lets see how it goes...
I already switched but I dont like how the Group Messages I send out have all the replies intersect with others in the group rather than replying to just the sender, Is there a way to fix that to where it works like the whats app broadcast feature?
I was about to sign up for Signal and on sign up they ask for access to your contacts list and media.
This means they can track you through contact list mapping and WiFi and Bluetooth triangulation.
So why use Signal if you can be tracked?
How u think u will talk to people on ur contact list?
Just deny the request. Signal doesn't upload your contacts anyway, but better to be safe than sorry, correct?
You can still use Signal by typing / pasting the number of the person you want to contact.
I think the media permission is for choosing a profile image. But even profiles are encrypted and only people you message have the key to view that. It is also optional, as I recall.
How to get others to move to Signal? Many here haven’t heard of it
Thanks, Sun, for this oversight.
New subscriber here love your content
That's the same thing WhatsApp said when they started and for now that's all fine and good, till signal sell to facebook and the story starts again.
Thankfully, Signal cannot sell to anyone given it's a non profit. That being said, feel you. We have to keep and eye on the project and, some day, we will have to move once more.
Just installed signal on my iPad and pc after using on my iPhone for a few weeks, and nothing synced, missing parts of groups threads, missing private messages, I have one hot mess any idea of how to fix this issue and have everything sync correctly?
Since signal is non-profit. How do you think it is going to cover the cost of the bandwidth? Someone has to come up with the money.
@@gianfc2001 Not supposed to syn. Every device is a different entity. Messages send to that device can only be read from that device.
@@Aviator168 signal.org/donate/
Please talk about alternatives for social media (facebook and instagram particularly). It is my only way to stay in touch with people i do not have the phone number but still nice to talk every now and then
Parler & gab & nap sack
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@@PhysicsViolator Parler has mostly right content and got banned
we need social media app made in Europe, they have better regulations against the tech companies.
@@Antizokker and twitter has mostly left content and not got banned?
@@sungleong yeah man! Im in spain so not sure any of this will be used here... i tried to sign up to gab.com but was crazy slow! No i read about mewe.. do u know about this?
I installed the signal, created the account and came to the place where I had to enter the first name and last name, The app automatically showed my name without me actually entering my name. The profile picture I put up is not shown in others chat. Signal shows an other old picture of mine as my DP to the other guy I am chatting with. Only when I asked about my DP I came to know that my DP was a different one on his chat screen. How's that possible? Can you provide an explanation. This incident worried me a lot.I deleted the app because I did not understand what was going on..
Yes. Privacy respecting alternatives to FB would be great.
Your offer to research that is very much appreciated.
Mate seriously your channel is amazing.
What's really complicated about this is adoption. I would like to switch, in fact I had many alternatives already installed n my devices before this policy, but unfortunately if the people you talk to don't switch it means you are just out of the loop with your friends. In my country whatsapp is a really big and VERY frequently used, even some companies and some government services have whatsapp lines. Many people will message you over whatsapp if they have your number just by instinct. A big portion of society need to drop it for this to be a permanent solution.
This really sucks. Getting people to adopt a new platform is super hard. All my college groups are on WhatsApp and we can’t do anything about it :/
And that’s the problem I just wanted to point out. We need an actual solution on how to move the masses to Signal or other apps from WhatsApp. Just explaining the privacy issues won’t do the trick because people prefer to be comfortable.
I have the same issue, I'm using Signal already for my text messages but I just can't drop Whatsapp because of my contacts that are using it. Also, if I would drop Facebook and Whatsapp, there would be no way for me to talk to my parents who are on the other side of the world than I am. So unfortunately, no dropping for me.
Make it a trend or get the cancel culture society people.
At least they can do something useful
Yes, the network effect is definitely present. But if we don't switch now, then we might not get another opportunity when so many people are switching.
The way I've asked people to migrate groups is to create the group (with 1 or 2 people) in the new platform and share its link in the WhatsApp group. All my family members (who are tech noobs) have switched to the new group. This way it is easier for them to join the new groups.
I use Signal for most messages but would not consider it as a full replacement for whatsapp. It does not let you share video clips (usually political jokes) easily since it does not let me share media attachments with more that one user at a time. What else would you suggest?
You recommend telegram? Also for somethings that dont work in firefox I want to use vivaldi did you recomend it?
What about Telegram? I downloaded 3 days ago and is awesome.... I disabled google and chrome too...now...DuckDuckGo
Yeah you can do everything with Telegram
I always used Signal but other messaging apps that I can suggest are Skype, Telegram and Session, but Session is for mass privacy, it uses the same technologies as signal plus some extras for more privacy and security. I hope you like it 😊
Skype is completely closed source, Telegram chats by default aren't end to end encrypted, Session is the only other option apart from Signal.
You have use it I am just giving like an option
Hi. Great talk yours👍
Let me ask a question. Regarding recent noise about privacy about whatsapp, i understand they collect some data phone number, user statistcs, or other with facebook for ads purpose. My doubt is whether they access our private or encrypted chats and based on that, giving ads in facebook or like that? Could give a clarification?
Great video, I hope all my friends understand.
I feel people put too much emphasis in privacy when they are getting something for free. Servers cost money, making the app cost money, keeping and updating the app cost money, eventually the creators will want to monetize the app and either you have to pay directly for it, or you would be sold as the product. Signal might be secure for now, but then you would have to move to telegram, and then to something else.
Maybe we are better off by paying for an app altogether, but most people wouldn't. Nothing is free. Also, Whatsappp has been doing this for a long time, this is not anything new, they only clarify things they were already doing with the latest update to the terms.
I totally agree with the statement this is just what I said today.
I still love instagram I wish it was never bought by Facebook, I don’t know what can be an alternative to it :(
😥
Vero. can be an alternative
@kamel Labiad : there is an alternative..it's called VERO
Download their app.
I have to many Internet friends on Instagram /:
MySpace
I subscribed to you after watching this video 💯💯💯💯❤️👍🏼
Im gradually switching to ProtonMail are they as good as say they are?
Telegram is also better than whatsapp
Not true. It’s even worse than WhatsApp. Look it up!
@@KJC2000 Telegram is even far better than your slow niche app.
It is. Most people dont know its full potential
@@KJC2000 if you don't know telegram, don't comment
I just dont like telegram channels, im not comfortable with families using it where its easy to access porn and other stuff in channels
I prefer Telegram. Groups(up to 200k members), channels(unlimited subscribers), stickers, games, unlimited storage, folders, 2GB file sharing, music playlist in background, etc.
more mature app, but still private ownership... so their business model can easily mutate...
I prefer apps focus on just one thing.
Telegrams for hoes man
SIGNAL IS BETTR
Don't forget the instant view of pages like Wikipedia and many other sites, and without advertising 😜
I see that Gab dot com is exploding and is the $FB alternative now, but is it safe? They use their own servers rather than cloud, but I cant determine is that's enough. Please consider a video on Gab, Sun (I think it'd get many "eyeballs" as Gab is so topical now). Thank you
What maps app does everyone use as an alternative to google maps? I’ve tried maps.me and other foss apps but all seem to have a lot of missing places. I live in Las Vegas, USA as well so it’s not like I’m in a remote location.
left Facebook. thanks
So to get off facebook and whatsapp, should i just stop using the account or deactivate the account or delete the account wherever i can? Please tell
This
> so to get off facebook
if you want to stop using Facebook, just un-install it, if you are on Android, and if it was pre-installed, search on how to uninstall pre installed apps on android through adb method, use add-ons on browser to stop you
keep yourself busy with other social media site if you really want to use it
go to privacy tools. io
Go to help center and tell them to permanently erase all of your data. I did that on whatsapp
Hard to leave fb ecosystem when friends and family use it. Also, I'm a self-taught developer. I use fb groups to learn and collaborate. It has a mature groups system and can be easier to get feedback compared to other platforms. Agree with and understand what you're saying though.
Thank you. Are you having the same opinion now (May 2021 ) do you have any thing to add .
I trust Telegram. Been using it for years. I recommend it.
telegram is the same as whatsapp
@@thepinkrabbit1647 why?
@@vinc4432 its not creepted
@@mr_imbrator That's not true, it has end to end encryption.
You always give us privacy guides and telling us about how apps can take over or know all our privacy, Thank you
Hello I’m just wondering can this be used through a website on a laptop running windows? I have Apple tablets Samsung tablets and I desperately want to get rid of them and purchase a laptop, I am sick of them. Thanks.
Thank you so much for this video.
Your recommendation is Signal and everyone in South Africa is joining Telegram. Does would you recommend Telegram?
Telegram have so many features
@@Masters_Yukesh yeah. I’ve heard. Joined both last night.
Telegram for me. I've never touched Facebook for years since it was just full of idiots and ads. As for WhatsApp, I've always hated it. Especially when you habe things like telegram. I've even stopped Instagram since 2011
Telegram is worse than whatsapp
@@bhok1971 if you're under 16 yes probably is. You can do some much more on telegram. Youre just upset its screwed you over, like all Facebook apps.
@Sun Knudsen 🤔
What do you think on Mastodon as alternative?
Can you do video about it?
As a brown Hispanic man. I don't trust Twitter, Facebook, Google, and Apple.
As soon as I can I will move away from their products and services.
And what about telegram?
I want to switch to signal but no one I know uses it. So basically, I'll be alone.
Any suggestions?
Promote the app to your friends and family
yes create another fake account and add your self. you will feel less lonely
The problem is people are deleting WhatsApp but are still using Instagram. Which makes the whole point pointless!
Yes please Sun, please advise if there are any alternatives to FB...hating the fact that they have so much control. Thanks for your insightful video!
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All my friends and family did it. Happy to be away from whatsapp and facebook
I said this to my friends but they just tell me that we ain't leaving whatsapp as we used it for many years
@Vengapondy there is no safety issue here. dont start the drama
@@AhmedAhmed-yu5mz nah man they don't start a fight
They say whatsapp is well known and signal is not so I can't
I managed to convince one guy
@Vengapondy k
Never had FB (believe or not, it is possible), using a bit of Instagram, using whatsapp but i am about to drop it as soon as it's needed.
People should start to care about their privacy WAY more. And it is not just about using this or that app, but also understand that ONCE you post something public, it is on internet for eternity (if it is interesting enough.... it can be downloaded, re-posted, shared, etc.).
For me the issue is that people are not ready to switch to Signal. No matter how much i would say. I have Signal for 4-5 months yet I hardly use it. Because everyone uses Whatsapp in my country (India). No joke its a verb for us, "Just Whatsapp it too" instead of messaging it to me.
Please review to tutanota email service. I really appreciate your contents.
Ditto.
Adding Tutanota to the backlog. 🤓
I like tutanota
Anyone got a recommendation on an alternative for Instagram?
Vero
I'm making an alternative for that
Tiktok
@@dotastillthebest5474 nice one
Parler But big social media Corp shut them down
Never had FB, have had both Signal and Whatsapp (soon to be uninstalled).
Today in the US, Signal is experiencing technical problems since the morning (it is now almost evening). Surge of new users?
I be used signal for a few years and I am glad I choose it over others now 😜
I know you're right but
"Marzia, check your Signal."
Doesn't sound as good... 💔
Let's not pick what we use based on a dead meme.
Amazing content. I use Telegram, is it private?
Great question! I have to look into Telegram more thoroughly. Have you watched ruclips.net/video/MxULcUA4B5U/видео.html
Only sec chat, it have e2ee (if you trust to telegram) in cloud chat - no, it have intermediate certificate on server, that's why you have all this sync between devices
no it's not. at least whatsapp it's encrypted
Hey, great work, thanks a lot. I would definatly love it if you can do some research on a alternative to FB.
Good content. Subscribed.
I've just found this channel and I'm binge watching.
Do you know the emerging, open-sourcey, block-chainy LBRY/Odysee video platform? I think as a privacy/security channel, LBRY really suits you. You should really sync your content there.
Hey, thanks for sharing. I agree I should look into LBRY. Btw, I do syndicate this content on a self-hosted PeerTube instance at peertube.sunknudsen.com/video-channels/sunknudsen_channel/videos.
Are you gonna change to Signal, you should.
all ppl i know locally and from other countries are leaving FB,twitter and whatsapp, there's better options out there and don't feed the beast anymore.
Video on Telegram? I think it visually looks better. Signal looks a bit old school.
I genuinely felt sad seeing you upset on that other video. All the best mate. Don't let current global events get you down.
Don't get it. How do they link WhatsApp and Facebook when the credentials you provide to both are different?
I dropped fb and about to switch to signal Messenger.I think I'm addicted to insta 😅
Feel you, it's very hard to leave these platforms. I would recommend trying an alternative for at least a few weeks in order to mitigate the withdrawal period.
@@sunknudsen I quit Twitter as well, I'm only on insta right now, if you know any better alternative please suggest me.
love from india sun
If you leave FB, what happens to/with the info and data they have already taken?
I only have WhatsApp (no facebook or instagram), you think I should drop it anyway? Asking for your professional opinion.
I would quit Whatsapp and pretty much all Social Media only if it wasn't the only way to stay in touch with my family and friends, who don't give a fuck about privacy and use those all the time.
quit it and have a message on your profile / status that you aren't on whatsapp and to get signal in order to speak to you. that's what i've done
thankfully my mom's boomer friends have all panic-left whatsapp. I got her (mom) on signal. Hopefully she gets her friends on that as well
Mark Zuckerberg owns. Several apps so better check out ownership before assuming anything
And moxie is a legend
Cool picture bro
Legend? The guy one day just wanted to do something for the world but ended up being funded by the government to make a secure service. 😂
Legends are the ones who gave Putin the middle finger, risking literally their lives to protect their users privacy, like Pavel Durov from Telegram. That's a legend.
@@borealfox do some more reading mate. Fuck I don’t know, maybe watch an interview or a defcon talk. Legends come from all walks of life homey. Moxie has a pretty solid take on anarchism and technology. I hear what you’re saying doode, I just think you are a tad narrow on your definition of legends. I have met the man in person, he is even a very nice ma fukka too! Hope I didn’t offered you my doode. I just freaking love the man and his brain.
PS. Moxie is autonomous and has yet do bow down to the higher ups as far as I hear....I got big faaaaken ears
What's your thoughts on Telegram? Btw one of the good reasons about this "privacy apocalypse" of recent events on social media platforms is that I found some very good channels on youtube including yours.
Love you bro.. totally agree 200%..