Cheers Lars! I have a shed application like yours which will be a perfect solution! I am thinking of matching this with a flex switch and a case to run several cameras.
@@JosephCorreiaIreland I have dug some trenches, but only where it makes sense and I want other stuff in the ground too. I am about to upgrade the farm with more bridging tech, and it will be amazing.
Really neat looking device, however, I would recommend locating the antenna of the bridge at least a foot away from the metal siding to help prevent reflecting the total strength of the radio right back into the antenna.
@@LarsKlintTech extending the coax will add attenuation to that already weak signal from the antenna. You would be better to relocate the whole device if possible. I'm not saying moving only the antenna won't work, just that it is not as ideal as moving the whole unit.
Great stuff. I've been rocking a Flex in a Flex Utility cab with a UAP-AC-M for about 4 years. I have 3 POE cams connected to the Flex. Very handy setup.
@@LarsKlintTech It would be nice to not lose 2 ports, one for power and one for data, on the flex. Maybe they will have an ultra mega pro version that can lol.
Thanks Lars. I thought this may be a good solution for a camera at my house front door, where there's only WiFi, but the "enable UniFi mesh" is a showstopper for me!
@LarsKlintTech I wish Ubiquiti would allow client mode on the APs. I bought a GLI-MT3000 travel router, set it as client mode, and locked it to my AP. I plugged a G5 Turret PTZ to it. I wonder if Ubiquiti requires meshing for ease of setup?
@@LarsKlintTech I have a cheap ($15) TP-Link device configured to act as a WiFi client (talking to my U7 Pro access points), which then bridges the connection out an Ethernet port to a basic switch. Works fine, no mesh mode required. Which is good, because I have 5 SSIDs and mesh mode limits you to 4. I would love a device like the UDB, except without PoE, without requiring mesh mode, and way cheaper than $100.
I'd suggest putting the bridge in/near a window for better signal strength. The antenna switch setting isn't instantaneous but you can see improvement. Wow the cut-scene noises are obnoxious.
Yes, I am aware of moving it and/or getting an antenna extension. I have ordered one already. Apologies for the scratches. I was kinda frustrated with not being able to adopt it and wanted to convey that.
Hi Lars, your reviews of Ubiquiti products are just what I was looking for -- thanks! Quick question: Have you tried adding a back-up power supply to any of your Ubiquiti devices? I don't mean a large UPS system but a small pass-through battery supply that will just keep the router/camera going until the main power comes back on? That is something I am really interested in. Some Ubiquiti devices seem to have a very short internal power back-up that last a second or two but I am not sure. Any advice?
Thanks mate, and you are most welcome. I haven't added a backup power supply, but I've had a few devices running with a solar power source. It sounds like you need a UPS system in some way, if you want it so kick in when the power goes. It should work, if you have a "mini UPS" in mind. I don't think any Unifi devices have any documented internal power backup at all. You're best bet is to provide stable power through a UPS, which is what I do on most devices.
Great video, awesome product! Would be really cool if they had a 12v DC version making it easier to power for a remote location instead of using an inverter.
Lars, you may get a better signal by extending the external antenna to the outside of shed using a short piece of coax cable with SMA connectors. Also did you try the G5 Flex directly plugged into the network?
100%, that is what I will be doing soon. The signal is marginal being in a tin shed, so that would help no end. Yes, the camera is faulty and is being replaced under warranty. I reset it, tried different cables, different switches. All the same result.
Ubiquity could have just added a wifi client mode to the normal APs to serve as bridge. This sadly a product which should not exist if you have a proper wifi AP. The added on POE power is nice but yeah I feel like the Unifi AP are limited for that reason to add another product
They do that too. The U6 Mesh Pro for example has an extra PoE out that you can use for a camera. The UDB is just another way you can connect a PoE device with no cabling.
I also use an old AP, as a wireless bridge and have it connect to a switch so I can use ethernet-cabled devices where I cannot run a cable to. This is just more refined/purposeful. But you can do this with an AP
Any Unifi Access Point with a PoE injector can do this same task. Have many client sites with printers bridged with an AP & a PoE injector. Connect AP to a PoE injector, connect your device (camera) to the injector LAN port & done, you have a bridge, just make sure mesh it turned on of cause. This bridge device is basically a PoE injector with an AP built in. :-D Decent price for an all in one option.
I like the Idea but would a outdoor unit with DC power so Solar would work with it. as I think that would fit lots of other places like I have seen on your Farm in the past
The UDB is meant for indoorsy type deployments, where the UDB Pro is more for outdoor. It has PoE powering, so you can use DC for that with an adaptor.
As you mentioned, it requires AP Meshing to be enabled, along with Meshing to be enabled on at least 1 AP.. what you didn't mention at all is if by selecting that Enable button prompt, does it auto-enable Meshing on every AP automagically? If it did, have you then gone back and disabled it on all the APs except the one you want the Bridge connecting to? Hopefully Ubiquiti were smart enough to not auto-enable meshing on every AP, because that would be absolutely one hell of annoying thing to have to go back and disable across all your APs if you have 10's or even 100's of APs, and you only need it enabled for a single AP to use the bridge.
That is a really good point, and I didn't think of that as I recorded. I just checked, and the global "Wireless Meshing" under advanced system settings is enabled. I can't disable it unless I remove the UDB it says. I can however, disable meshing on each AP after the install. I am not sure if I had had any single AP enabled with meshing that it would have overwritten it, or just used it. Thanks for your feedback. I really appreciate it.
I'll bet you could add a 2-port PoE extender and hang two cameras off that port ... The G5 Flex only pulls 4W, so the 15W budget should be plenty for 2 cameras plus a PoE extender.
@@LarsKlintTech I'd be interested in the Device Bridge + Flex combo - essentially a bridged switch with 4 POE ports for attached devices - although the POE budget of 15W might be a bit limiting. Given the envisaged deployment scenario of Power but no Network cabling, it occurs to me that a combo of Device Bride + Ultra switch (with 60w adapter) would give a bridged POE switch with a 40+ W power budget - substitute the 210W adapter if more POE budget is needed. FYI - for the last 3 years I ran a combo of an unmanaged POE switch with a microtiK Map lite in bridge mode to connect a couple of G3 Flex cameras to a Nano HD. I've recently replaced the cameras with G4 Instants so I no longer need this set up. But as a concept of bridged switch it was rock solid.
I've never used any of the mesh features.. I'm curious if you could plug a small switch into this bridge to connect more than one device in the shed or is it limited to only one MAC on the ethernet port somehow? Is there a better option for what I'm talking about?
That is 40% of the comments I have got on this video, so I am planning a video to explore that option. Just waiting on a part. I have used PtP bridge devices for what you describe as well. Check out my farm tour video for where they are used. ruclips.net/video/sxj8XqHTaC4/видео.html
Sorry for the question but I don't understand if I can set the native vlan parameter on the port as for switches? I would like to connect a device on a separate vlan
Thanks for doing a video in a realistic environment. Whoever needs this isn’t going to have a -30dBm signal after all. Some tryouts about the performance with that signal would have been nice. Congratulations anyway!
Hej Lars. So how mutch does the metal wall affect the radio signal puttning the antenna inside instead of having it outside? I would mount the antenn outside.
You can also do this with an AP in mesh mode like the 6 Lite and you will also get wifi with it. Just plug your camera into the Lan port on the peo injector.
I am not sure that make sense. If you have a U6 Lite, there is only one port on it, which is for the signal to it. And if you use a PoE injector for the camera, you need the LAN connection on the other port? I am not sure I am following how you can get a connection without cables using a U6 Lite.
@@LarsKlintTech I think the key here is there's 2 ports on the POE injector. So the power one would connect the POE injector to the AP, and then whatever you want to network would connect to the LAN port on the POE injector.
@@markstev0 That wouldn't work, as one port is for LAN (no PoE), the other is for PoE. How would you power the second device then? And I don't think the AP would provide connection through the PoE.
I have questions! They have been demonstrating this mainly with cameras, but can you plug a switch into the back on if. I have one of there little 8 port POE switches which works great and it would be great if I could run something like that and a few other devices not necessarily a POE device. Can this be linked to a non unifi wifi. I had a situation where I wanted to connect my Synology NAS to a network with wifi only network. Could I use this to make the bridge. But this does look like a cool
Good questions. I would imagine you can put a switch on it. In fact I will test it out myself, but remember you only get 15W PoE if you need that. I am not sure about non UniFi things, as it is designed to power another device, so if you have a Synology NAS, you don't want PoE going to it. In that case a switch in between would be better I think.
@@LarsKlintTech Given you already have power I would imagine you could just connect one of the many AC powered Unifi switches and "ignore" the PoE that this provides. If you're worried about potential damage you could just use a PoE extractor to take PoE out of the equation. That or I know the Flex switches can both be powered by PoE and USB-C at the same time.
@@LarsKlintTech I've seen some pre-orders going for 247.50 AUD which is a joke also have you had a bit of a muck around with the third party sip on unifi talk in australia it took me awhile to get mine going due to a port problem on the software side of things
@@annoyedlemon Whaaaat! That is cheeky. I haven't done anything with Talk yet. Tbh, it is pretty low on the priority list with all the devices and projects I have yet to create content on.
Do you have to pay to adopt the UDB because I just wanna use it to get WiFi upstairs and don’t have any other unifi devices nor do I have the money for a monthly subscription
Omni-directional antenna on lead (1 meter?) placed outside of shed, attached to kit would be far better. Just make sure its the correct sma connector or whatever it is sir. Uodate g5flex on normal connection then swap it out to see if it works, ubiquiti stuff akways needs updating first!
@@LarsKlintTechl suspect the g5flex needs an update & the bridge won't allow that process to take place at a guess. But once it's working maybe it'll allow updates over bridge. You could question ubquiti about this scenario
@@patricklyons7683 No, it was faulty. I reset it, tried different cables, different switches etc. Also, the G3 Flex got updated when I plugged it in, so that seems to work.
Could you maybe resolve the "poor wifi signal inside a tin shed" by using an SMA extension cable to allow you to position the antenna outside, or even substitute an outdoor (water proof) antenna for the supplied unit "If you know what you are doing" - doesn't that simply mean unscrewing the existing unit and screwing on the new cable?
In terms of getting a camera, yes. In terms of reliability and quality, no. The point of the UDB is that you can skip the cabling and have a PoE port for any kind of device that needs it, not just a camera.
In my workshop I currently have a usw-flex that gives me 5 ports and connected to a mesh AP that connects to my house wifi. All you really need is a mesh AP plugged into a poe switch. It would cost a bit more but you get more ports. Thanks for the review and video though.
@@Jakexgt1979 There are definitely multiple ways to solve this problem, and I have done exactly what you describe too. Good to have another option. Thanks for watching and sharing 🙂
I wonder if you could use the UDB (or the pro version) with a PoE powered Switch Flex to give a couple of extra PoE ports. Obviously it is limited by WiFi connectivity and the 15Watt total power,, but I am sure two or maybe even 3 cameras could work off it if you have decent WiFi signal at the location, given cameras like the Flex are usually only 3 or 4 watts. Certainly a great device if you have areas without cabling, but still have reasonable WiFi to the area. I believe the built in antenna is a bit directional, so you can sort of point it toward an AP if you wanted to, but I am not sure it makes too much difference over the omni-directional antenna. 867mbps is so close to gigabit it's not worth even saying it's not gigabit, but it would only achieve that with ideal WiFi conditions. Any non-ideal WiFi conditions will affect that speed.
@@LarsKlintTech The thing will be using a Flex Switch due to the PoE passthrough. A non PoE powered switch may cause issues. Pity UI didn't give it the intelligence on the PoE side. Maybe it will come with firmware. The PoE powered Mini switch may work if you didn't need PoE ports.
I saw this 5 days to late! I just ran a cable from the front of the house through the back garden to the shed. So it wasn't necessary If saw this video 5 days earlier
@@LarsKlintTech yeah that would be awesome to test out. Couple hard to reach places that I’d like access control so would be worth the cost of a device bridge
I think you are missing the point. The UDB gives 15W of PoE power in a place where you can't get cabling to. I just use the G5 Flex as an example. You could set up an AI Pro, which is vastly superior to a G4 Instant for example.
You most probably couldn’t adopt it because your signal was too weak. I tried to adopt a doorbell with the mesh signal being -80 and that also didn’t work very well, but came through in the end. So when it says signal is poor, it really means it.
I thought that too, but I tested it in multiple ways, including different cables, different locations, different switches, and it never adopted. It is being replaced under warranty. With the current G3 Flex there is no issues with the same setup.
I suspect 5Ghz is in order to get the speed up as close to 1Gb as possible, so it matches most modern networks. I agree, some control over the type of PoE would have been better.
The purpose is to have a PoE port in a location you don't have to provide cabling for. You can use it for a camera or something else, but you can have a much better quality camera for example, than the wireless camera.
You mention that it is for one device, but is it? How much traffic can it handle? One Ethernet port does not mean one device. Plug a PoE powered switch into that one port and you have extended your whole network. Seeing that wireless devices have to take turns talking and shut up when others are transmitting (time slice), plus that Wi-Fi has to co-exist with Bluetooth, Zigbee, and anything else using the license free spectrum. The more wireless devices you have the less efficient your network becomes, and rather quickly. Ethernet's CDMA/CD is much more efficient. So extending your network with a single bridge device plugged into a switch and then plugging your remote devices into the switch is probably from a networking standpoint a much better and more efficient solution for moving packets than using multiple bridges.
Sigh, unifi and their passive kinda-non-standard PoE. That's why you have to be careful when you plug something in. Why are they sticking with this for so long?
I disagree. It isn't "very unreliable". The speed varies more depending on a number of variables, and if you can't run a cable to the location, this is a great solution.
If you have wifi coverage you wouldn't use the UDB to connect an AP, as you could just mesh connect it, which is effectively what the UDB does. That is why you don't see any videos doing that, cause it makes no sense. I will try it soon with a switch though.
Fellow Aussie unifi fan boy here! Can't wait till these land. Your vids are awesome, keep up the great work!
Thanks Tony. Appreciate the watch and support.
Very excited for this! Glad I found your channel. Has fed my Ubiquiti habit!
Thanks for watching mate. It feeds mine too! 😂
Cheers Lars! I have a shed application like yours which will be a perfect solution! I am thinking of matching this with a flex switch and a case to run several cameras.
You are not the first to mention this. I am wondering if a quick video on that setup would be beneficial?
@@LarsKlintTech I think that maybe a nice addition to this video.
Dude get the Kubota on the go and dig a trench, you’re country not a city dweller. 🚜🚜🚜🚜
Haha, if only I had a Kubota. There's a time for trenching and not. In this case it's much simpler with the UDB.
@@LarsKlintTech seems odd, you have a bit of land and thus compulsory to own machinery
@@a9503128 Hahaha, I know. I am a disgrace to wannabe farmers.
I was in same boat digging is messy and time consuming. Bridging tech is fine imo.....
@@JosephCorreiaIreland I have dug some trenches, but only where it makes sense and I want other stuff in the ground too. I am about to upgrade the farm with more bridging tech, and it will be amazing.
EXACTLY what I needed. Great video as usual.
Thanks mate, and thanks for watching.
For a moment i thought this had a bad upload with the noise and picture jump with you repeating "adopt" 🤣
Mission accomplished 😈
@@LarsKlintTech Indeed! 🤣 You were just testing if we were awake
Really neat looking device, however, I would recommend locating the antenna of the bridge at least a foot away from the metal siding to help prevent reflecting the total strength of the radio right back into the antenna.
You are absolutely correct. I have just ordered a coax extension to do exactly that.
@@LarsKlintTech extending the coax will add attenuation to that already weak signal from the antenna. You would be better to relocate the whole device if possible. I'm not saying moving only the antenna won't work, just that it is not as ideal as moving the whole unit.
@@T313COmun1s7 absolutely, but it will make a difference. I have a few ideas though, so let's see what works ☺️
Great stuff. I've been rocking a Flex in a Flex Utility cab with a UAP-AC-M for about 4 years. I have 3 POE cams connected to the Flex. Very handy setup.
Ah, excellent, I do the same. Not sure if the UDB will power a Switch Flex enough to run all of it though.
@@LarsKlintTech It would be nice to not lose 2 ports, one for power and one for data, on the flex. Maybe they will have an ultra mega pro version that can lol.
@@DivinaFarms_James You're not wrong. Also, you forgot "max". 😛
@@LarsKlintTech 15W maximum for output UDB will power the flex but no other PoE connections could be supported.
@@LordGooben You 100% sure? I think it's worth a test.
A device like this running on DC would be great to strap to A battery powered rig like a camera to get ptz control stable over the network
Absolutely! I have many uses for that kind of setup too.
Thanks Lars. I thought this may be a good solution for a camera at my house front door, where there's only WiFi, but the "enable UniFi mesh" is a showstopper for me!
Sure, but how else would you do it?
@LarsKlintTech I wish Ubiquiti would allow client mode on the APs. I bought a GLI-MT3000 travel router, set it as client mode, and locked it to my AP. I plugged a G5 Turret PTZ to it. I wonder if Ubiquiti requires meshing for ease of setup?
@@sirlesliechao Interesting. I'd say they use the Mesh feature to connect the UDB, hence it needs to be enabled.
@@LarsKlintTech I have a cheap ($15) TP-Link device configured to act as a WiFi client (talking to my U7 Pro access points), which then bridges the connection out an Ethernet port to a basic switch. Works fine, no mesh mode required.
Which is good, because I have 5 SSIDs and mesh mode limits you to 4.
I would love a device like the UDB, except without PoE, without requiring mesh mode, and way cheaper than $100.
@@kjdegraaf Nice work! I like it when you find your own solution 🙂
I'd suggest putting the bridge in/near a window for better signal strength. The antenna switch setting isn't instantaneous but you can see improvement.
Wow the cut-scene noises are obnoxious.
Yes, I am aware of moving it and/or getting an antenna extension. I have ordered one already.
Apologies for the scratches. I was kinda frustrated with not being able to adopt it and wanted to convey that.
Long overdue product. Love the idea of being able to install a camera anywhere. Although a lot of other creative ways to use this.
It is super handy, and yes, there are always many ways to solve a problem 😊
Hi Lars, your reviews of Ubiquiti products are just what I was looking for -- thanks!
Quick question: Have you tried adding a back-up power supply to any of your Ubiquiti devices? I don't mean a large UPS system but a small pass-through battery supply that will just keep the router/camera going until the main power comes back on? That is something I am really interested in. Some Ubiquiti devices seem to have a very short internal power back-up that last a second or two but I am not sure. Any advice?
Thanks mate, and you are most welcome.
I haven't added a backup power supply, but I've had a few devices running with a solar power source. It sounds like you need a UPS system in some way, if you want it so kick in when the power goes. It should work, if you have a "mini UPS" in mind. I don't think any Unifi devices have any documented internal power backup at all. You're best bet is to provide stable power through a UPS, which is what I do on most devices.
Great video, awesome product! Would be really cool if they had a 12v DC version making it easier to power for a remote location instead of using an inverter.
Absolutely. I would welcome a 12v/24v version as well.
was excited to see how you will use this! I might use one attached to a switch ultra in the attic to hook up cameras.
That could be interesting to see if it can power all the devices you add.
Lars, you may get a better signal by extending the external antenna to the outside of shed using a short piece of coax cable with SMA connectors. Also did you try the G5 Flex directly plugged into the network?
100%, that is what I will be doing soon. The signal is marginal being in a tin shed, so that would help no end.
Yes, the camera is faulty and is being replaced under warranty. I reset it, tried different cables, different switches. All the same result.
Nice. I've been doing the same thing with IN-WALL6 as wifi bridge. This looks simpler
It is definitely simpler, but it depends on what you need. There are many ways to solve the "no cabling" hurdle.
Ubiquity could have just added a wifi client mode to the normal APs to serve as bridge. This sadly a product which should not exist if you have a proper wifi AP. The added on POE power is nice but yeah I feel like the Unifi AP are limited for that reason to add another product
They do that too. The U6 Mesh Pro for example has an extra PoE out that you can use for a camera. The UDB is just another way you can connect a PoE device with no cabling.
I also use an old AP, as a wireless bridge and have it connect to a switch so I can use ethernet-cabled devices where I cannot run a cable to. This is just more refined/purposeful. But you can do this with an AP
Any Unifi Access Point with a PoE injector can do this same task. Have many client sites with printers bridged with an AP & a PoE injector. Connect AP to a PoE injector, connect your device (camera) to the injector LAN port & done, you have a bridge, just make sure mesh it turned on of cause.
This bridge device is basically a PoE injector with an AP built in. :-D Decent price for an all in one option.
@@SirJohndill Ah nice! I didn't think of that tbh. Thanks for sharing.
That would be perfect for my shop!!
Excellent. I am seeing a lot of use for this device in the comments, especially if it might even support a switch.
Looks like somebody needs to give that window some love, before it rots away on you! 😧
The whole shed is destined for replacement, so probably not worth fixing a single window 😁
@@LarsKlintTech - Ha! Well played. 😁
I love the device it's perfect for my needs! And i will buy one in the next months
Great! That is awesome.
As I am about to endeavour into Talk, it would be interesting to use the UDB for a Talk phone in a remote location.
If you have WiFi connection, that should work just fine.
I'm wondering with the signal being poor are you able to extended the antenna outside of the shed to get a better wifi connection.
Yes, absolutely. In fact I have done this already and have planned a video on that and a few other things to try out with the UDB.
I like the Idea but would a outdoor unit with DC power so Solar would work with it. as I think that would fit lots of other places like I have seen on your Farm in the past
The UDB is meant for indoorsy type deployments, where the UDB Pro is more for outdoor. It has PoE powering, so you can use DC for that with an adaptor.
Do you think it provides enough POE power for the unifi AI pro camera?
The UDB provides 15W of PoE power, and the AI Pro uses 11W, so yes. You can't have the Enhancer on it though.
Love this idea! Would you be able to hook up there 8 port POE+ switch, i have something similar to what you are doing
It's likely. I am planning a video on just that scenario 😊
As you mentioned, it requires AP Meshing to be enabled, along with Meshing to be enabled on at least 1 AP.. what you didn't mention at all is if by selecting that Enable button prompt, does it auto-enable Meshing on every AP automagically? If it did, have you then gone back and disabled it on all the APs except the one you want the Bridge connecting to?
Hopefully Ubiquiti were smart enough to not auto-enable meshing on every AP, because that would be absolutely one hell of annoying thing to have to go back and disable across all your APs if you have 10's or even 100's of APs, and you only need it enabled for a single AP to use the bridge.
That is a really good point, and I didn't think of that as I recorded. I just checked, and the global "Wireless Meshing" under advanced system settings is enabled. I can't disable it unless I remove the UDB it says. I can however, disable meshing on each AP after the install. I am not sure if I had had any single AP enabled with meshing that it would have overwritten it, or just used it.
Thanks for your feedback. I really appreciate it.
I'll bet you could add a 2-port PoE extender and hang two cameras off that port ... The G5 Flex only pulls 4W, so the 15W budget should be plenty for 2 cameras plus a PoE extender.
I am pretty sure you are correct. I might test that out later too. Or even a Flex Switch.
@@LarsKlintTech I'd be interested in the Device Bridge + Flex combo - essentially a bridged switch with 4 POE ports for attached devices - although the POE budget of 15W might be a bit limiting. Given the envisaged deployment scenario of Power but no Network cabling, it occurs to me that a combo of Device Bride + Ultra switch (with 60w adapter) would give a bridged POE switch with a 40+ W power budget - substitute the 210W adapter if more POE budget is needed.
FYI - for the last 3 years I ran a combo of an unmanaged POE switch with a microtiK Map lite in bridge mode to connect a couple of G3 Flex cameras to a Nano HD. I've recently replaced the cameras with G4 Instants so I no longer need this set up. But as a concept of bridged switch it was rock solid.
@@rogerjones9984 Looks like this will be a soon to come video 😂
I've never used any of the mesh features.. I'm curious if you could plug a small switch into this bridge to connect more than one device in the shed or is it limited to only one MAC on the ethernet port somehow? Is there a better option for what I'm talking about?
That is 40% of the comments I have got on this video, so I am planning a video to explore that option. Just waiting on a part.
I have used PtP bridge devices for what you describe as well. Check out my farm tour video for where they are used. ruclips.net/video/sxj8XqHTaC4/видео.html
Sorry for the question but I don't understand if I can set the native vlan parameter on the port as for switches? I would like to connect a device on a separate vlan
No need to apologise, that is a good question. You can set the VLAN directly in the settings, and you can assign an ethernet profile to the port.
You think it would be possible to use it to power a POE switch, to then power 2-3 cameras frem there?
Yep, I think that works. There are so many comments saying this, I am considering a part 2 of the device 😁
Good to see Brocky in your video
He is always close in some way 💖
Interesting. So I have a gate about a 1/4 mile away. Outside, so the Bridge Pro. Is there a way to power the Bridge w a small solar device?
Yes, as long as you can get PoE power to the UDB Pro, it should work.
@@LarsKlintTech- thanks. Let's start nagging UniFi for portable (mini solar) power solutions! 😃
@@mistertwo6113 It's not difficult to set up your own though.
It’s like adding wifi to a camera. 😊
That's not a bad way of describing it 😊
Thanks for doing a video in a realistic environment. Whoever needs this isn’t going to have a -30dBm signal after all.
Some tryouts about the performance with that signal would have been nice. Congratulations anyway!
That's my thinking too and all my videos are actual installs, not just bench tests.
I'm considering a part 2 to test out a few more things as well.
@@LarsKlintTech amazing! Once again, congratulations! This is the way
Hej Lars. So how mutch does the metal wall affect the radio signal puttning the antenna inside instead of having it outside? I would mount the antenn outside.
It does affect it of course, but the UDB is not outdoor rated so I'm waiting on an extension cable to get the antenna outside.
Would love to get one of these powered off DC I wonder if we can open it up and bypass the AC and what it needs
Interesting. Let me know what you find. I'd love DC support too.
You can also do this with an AP in mesh mode like the 6 Lite and you will also get wifi with it. Just plug your camera into the Lan port on the peo injector.
I am not sure that make sense. If you have a U6 Lite, there is only one port on it, which is for the signal to it. And if you use a PoE injector for the camera, you need the LAN connection on the other port? I am not sure I am following how you can get a connection without cables using a U6 Lite.
@@LarsKlintTech I think the key here is there's 2 ports on the POE injector. So the power one would connect the POE injector to the AP, and then whatever you want to network would connect to the LAN port on the POE injector.
@@markstev0 That wouldn't work, as one port is for LAN (no PoE), the other is for PoE. How would you power the second device then? And I don't think the AP would provide connection through the PoE.
Try adopting the g flex via main network first? Like through a poe switch inside?
I did try that too. Different switches, different VLANs, different cables. The devices is faulty and being replaced under warranty.
I have questions!
They have been demonstrating this mainly with cameras, but can you plug a switch into the back on if. I have one of there little 8 port POE switches which works great and it would be great if I could run something like that and a few other devices not necessarily a POE device.
Can this be linked to a non unifi wifi. I had a situation where I wanted to connect my Synology NAS to a network with wifi only network. Could I use this to make the bridge.
But this does look like a cool
Good questions.
I would imagine you can put a switch on it. In fact I will test it out myself, but remember you only get 15W PoE if you need that.
I am not sure about non UniFi things, as it is designed to power another device, so if you have a Synology NAS, you don't want PoE going to it. In that case a switch in between would be better I think.
@@LarsKlintTech Given you already have power I would imagine you could just connect one of the many AC powered Unifi switches and "ignore" the PoE that this provides. If you're worried about potential damage you could just use a PoE extractor to take PoE out of the equation. That or I know the Flex switches can both be powered by PoE and USB-C at the same time.
@@antikommunistischaktion There are definitely options. I'd just hate for anyone to accidentally fry something with PoE.
Is there any way to connect a cable to the antenna and put the antenna outside and have the Device Bridge still inside.
most likeley yes
Absolutely. It is just a rp-sma connector I think. I am going to do this to get better signal too.
keen to see how much it will be in AUD no doubt it would be a jacked up price with some online stores
Hard to tell. It should be about $170 or so? But probably won't be.
@@LarsKlintTech I've seen some pre-orders going for 247.50 AUD which is a joke also have you had a bit of a muck around with the third party sip on unifi talk in australia it took me awhile to get mine going due to a port problem on the software side of things
@@annoyedlemon Whaaaat! That is cheeky.
I haven't done anything with Talk yet. Tbh, it is pretty low on the priority list with all the devices and projects I have yet to create content on.
Do you have to pay to adopt the UDB because I just wanna use it to get WiFi upstairs and don’t have any other unifi devices nor do I have the money for a monthly subscription
UniFi don't have any fees on any of their devices apart from their mobile platform, so, no. No payment.
@@LarsKlintTech yay
Now to wait for them to become available
Yeah, that is always the game. 25 Oct it says on the store page.
On the UK Store Device Bridge page it displays a "Find a Distributor" button - confused
@@rogerjones9984 theres a few things in the uk store that say find a distributer
would love to see the change in signal if you plugged in a cheap generic 5Ghz outdoor antenna in just to get the antenna out of that tin box.
I am going to put an extender on the antenna so I can mount it outside. Should make a world of difference.
How do i buy from Unifi direct?
Being in Australia i find i cant get any of their locations to ship to Australia.
I use one of the Aussie resellers. There are lots of them, and prices can vary quite a bit.
@@LarsKlintTech thankyou
Omni-directional antenna on lead (1 meter?) placed outside of shed, attached to kit would be far better. Just make sure its the correct sma connector or whatever it is sir. Uodate g5flex on normal connection then swap it out to see if it works, ubiquiti stuff akways needs updating first!
That is a definite improvement in the near future. I just need to get the extension. Thanks mate.
@@LarsKlintTechl suspect the g5flex needs an update & the bridge won't allow that process to take place at a guess. But once it's working maybe it'll allow updates over bridge. You could question ubquiti about this scenario
@@patricklyons7683 No, it was faulty. I reset it, tried different cables, different switches etc. Also, the G3 Flex got updated when I plugged it in, so that seems to work.
Ue express does the same thing right?
Not exactly. The UniFi Express UX can function as a mesh AP, but it doesn't have a PoE port for powering another device.
@@LarsKlintTech great point
Could you maybe resolve the "poor wifi signal inside a tin shed" by using an SMA extension cable to allow you to position the antenna outside, or even substitute an outdoor (water proof) antenna for the supplied unit "If you know what you are doing" - doesn't that simply mean unscrewing the existing unit and screwing on the new cable?
Yep, that is exactly what I am doing. I have ordered the extension and just waiting on it to arrive.
Watch out for led sync with shutter, at the start you've got banding across the picture
Thanks for letting me know James, but I can't see it. Have you got a time stamp?
Do you think it would power A switch flex mini which has multiple cameras on it
You are not the first to ask, so I will test this soon. I suspect it would work just fine though.
Thanks.... Only 2 days before the bridge was announced i bought a u6 mesh pro to achieve this. When the bridge probably would have done the job 😢
@@JosephCorreiaIreland At least you have a good AP to go with it now 🙂
It's it the same if you just got a wireless camera to being with?
In terms of getting a camera, yes. In terms of reliability and quality, no.
The point of the UDB is that you can skip the cabling and have a PoE port for any kind of device that needs it, not just a camera.
In my workshop I currently have a usw-flex that gives me 5 ports and connected to a mesh AP that connects to my house wifi. All you really need is a mesh AP plugged into a poe switch. It would cost a bit more but you get more ports. Thanks for the review and video though.
@@Jakexgt1979 There are definitely multiple ways to solve this problem, and I have done exactly what you describe too. Good to have another option.
Thanks for watching and sharing 🙂
What a pity Ubiquiti still has no official AU shop or customer care.
Totally agree. I keep asking where it is. 😂
I wonder if you could use the UDB (or the pro version) with a PoE powered Switch Flex to give a couple of extra PoE ports. Obviously it is limited by WiFi connectivity and the 15Watt total power,, but I am sure two or maybe even 3 cameras could work off it if you have decent WiFi signal at the location, given cameras like the Flex are usually only 3 or 4 watts. Certainly a great device if you have areas without cabling, but still have reasonable WiFi to the area.
I believe the built in antenna is a bit directional, so you can sort of point it toward an AP if you wanted to, but I am not sure it makes too much difference over the omni-directional antenna.
867mbps is so close to gigabit it's not worth even saying it's not gigabit, but it would only achieve that with ideal WiFi conditions. Any non-ideal WiFi conditions will affect that speed.
You're not the first to suggest plugging a switch into it. I'll test that soon to see what is possible.
@@LarsKlintTech The thing will be using a Flex Switch due to the PoE passthrough. A non PoE powered switch may cause issues. Pity UI didn't give it the intelligence on the PoE side. Maybe it will come with firmware. The PoE powered Mini switch may work if you didn't need PoE ports.
@@EsotericArctosit does say to not use non PoE devices, but I was considering a Switch Flex, which I have a spare of.
I saw this 5 days to late! I just ran a cable from the front of the house through the back garden to the shed. So it wasn't necessary If saw this video 5 days earlier
Don't be sorry. I'd prefer a cable where feasible too, and now you can run more than 1GB 😁
Pigtail to move the antenna outside will solve the signal issue
Thanks for the feedback, I have ordered an extension cable for it 😊
connect an external antenna to the bridge that should help
Absolutely. I have ordered an extension cable already 😁
@@LarsKlintTech what cable did you buy please
@@Vijaythalapathy28 a 3 meter RP-SMA Extension male to female.
@@LarsKlintTech thank you so much
handy box, but you can't buy it in the Czech Republic, nobody offers it in the e-shop... :-(
Edit: aha... from 25 October :-)
Yes, exactly 😊
Would these work for an access point? Asking for a friend!
I guess, yes, but why? You can just add the AP as a Mesh device and not need the UDB.
You just need a poe injector for that and then mesh.
would the Access Ultra work with this?
I don't see why not. Very good idea actually, and I have one I still haven't recorded or installed.... 🤔
@@LarsKlintTech yeah that would be awesome to test out. Couple hard to reach places that I’d like access control so would be worth the cost of a device bridge
My immediate thought is to plug a Flex switch into it... but I see nothing in the specs that indicates that would be acceptable.
I am not sure either. It only gives 15W of power, and the port just does passthrough. Whether it would provide IPs to all the ports is interesting.
So this only works with unifi cameras?
No, it should work with anything PoE powered, but I'm planning some more tests and this will be one.
can i connect a network switch to it and will it work ?
I haven't tested that yet, but I'd say so.
One device to one camera only, will be better to get one that can connect to multiple cameras
I'm going to test it with a small switch if we can get more stuff working with it.
G4 instant would do the same thing without all the complexity.
I think you are missing the point. The UDB gives 15W of PoE power in a place where you can't get cabling to. I just use the G5 Flex as an example. You could set up an AI Pro, which is vastly superior to a G4 Instant for example.
99$ for it, a cheap wifi range extender does the same 😄
Can you connect a PoE camera to your wifi extender?
at 8:55 just get external SMA antenna
I have ordered an extension cable to get the antenna outside. Also, thanks for using the timestamp 👌
Connect the G5 directly to the switch and see if it adopts.
Yes, I did. And tested different cables, adopted it via mobile and web. Nothing worked. It is being replaced under warranty.
Why not just use a WiFi Protect camera?
That is certainly an option too, but they aren't amazing image quality, and the point was to show that you can get a PoE port over Wifi.
Meh! My powerline AV units operate just fine. Why fix what’s not broken?
Excellent! This isn't for you then. That doesn't mean it isn't super useful in other scenarios.
Can you add a switch to it?
I would think so. You are person number 1273721678432 to ask, so I think I might record a video on the test 😅
You most probably couldn’t adopt it because your signal was too weak. I tried to adopt a doorbell with the mesh signal being -80 and that also didn’t work very well, but came through in the end. So when it says signal is poor, it really means it.
I thought that too, but I tested it in multiple ways, including different cables, different locations, different switches, and it never adopted. It is being replaced under warranty. With the current G3 Flex there is no issues with the same setup.
i dont like the Specs. 5GHz only limits the Wifi Range extreme. And only passive PoE!
I suspect 5Ghz is in order to get the speed up as close to 1Gb as possible, so it matches most modern networks. I agree, some control over the type of PoE would have been better.
RIP Headphone users🎧😱😵
Yeah, sorry about that. Also, don't have your headphones so loud.
Why not just get the wireless camera?? What is the actual purpose of this?
The purpose is to have a PoE port in a location you don't have to provide cabling for. You can use it for a camera or something else, but you can have a much better quality camera for example, than the wireless camera.
You mention that it is for one device, but is it? How much traffic can it handle? One Ethernet port does not mean one device. Plug a PoE powered switch into that one port and you have extended your whole network. Seeing that wireless devices have to take turns talking and shut up when others are transmitting (time slice), plus that Wi-Fi has to co-exist with Bluetooth, Zigbee, and anything else using the license free spectrum. The more wireless devices you have the less efficient your network becomes, and rather quickly. Ethernet's CDMA/CD is much more efficient. So extending your network with a single bridge device plugged into a switch and then plugging your remote devices into the switch is probably from a networking standpoint a much better and more efficient solution for moving packets than using multiple bridges.
Thanks for the insights, that is really helpful. I'm planning a second video to test this scenario.
Sigh, unifi and their passive kinda-non-standard PoE. That's why you have to be careful when you plug something in. Why are they sticking with this for so long?
Not a water proof device?? Hmmm
Not this one, no. The UDB is for mainly indoor use. The UDB Pro is IPX6 rated though.
The cake is a lie 🎂
*shock* *horror* 😱
If only they could build wifi into a camera so there is no need for this........
That is a thought.
wireless is very unreliable nothing will ever beat a wired connection for speed and reliability
I disagree. It isn't "very unreliable". The speed varies more depending on a number of variables, and if you can't run a cable to the location, this is a great solution.
All these reviews/videos on the bridge only use it with a camera. This should work with an AP to get WiFi into another location.
If you have wifi coverage you wouldn't use the UDB to connect an AP, as you could just mesh connect it, which is effectively what the UDB does. That is why you don't see any videos doing that, cause it makes no sense. I will try it soon with a switch though.