I often can't hear any major differences in these RUclips comparisions, even using headphones, but the Gretch sounded way better, so what it's like live I don't know, but on here, that bridge pickup really rocks!
Thank you! Appreciate your comment. The Gretsch is a joy to play and price wise is just crazy good. Live sound wise, the recording is pretty close, its why I always play them clean with no effects first so easier to compare and do not make any post recording changes to the audio.
@@stevegroves Yes - it makes a nice change from somebody noodling away at 27 notes per millisecond, distortion maxed out, and no commentry - which is more about 'look how cool I am' and less about 'what a useful review this is.' And yes, I want one now - I've just asked the missus, and she asks why I need another guitar when I've got a dozen already - they don't understand, bless them. Anyway, you should definitely be on commission - I just hope Epiphone aren't sending the heavy mob round to break your leg...
@@SuperJ333 Thank you! nice to get positive feedback. Part of the reason I enjoy doing these vids is because of the frustration of watching them with a rock God thrashing out tunes and giving no idea about how it actually sounds. My Gretsch is the smaller bodied version, I tried the larger ones too, all sounded great but just loved the feel and ease of playing of the smaller one. All had great necks. Good luck please report back on what you get :)
Thanks for the video. I agree with your Gretsch preference. Those streamliners come setup so well from the factory it's surprising for the price. And the neck feel for some reason has become my all time favourite over my Gibson SG, Epiphone LP or even Fender strat. The new Gretsch guitars really are hitting it out of the park these days and are very underrated I feel.
Thank you! Yep they are often overlooked but offer great value for money without any quality issues even on the entry level lower end ones. I must try some of their upper end models at some point bet they are incredible..
Hi Steve, just came across your comparison video& really enjoyed the content & your playing. I have had the Gretch Streamliner 2655T since May 2021 & it suits me. At the time I was awaiting an Epiphone Casino but it was unavailable on back order so opted for the Gretch. I love the look & sound of the ES 335 & it was good to see the comparison, thank you.
Thank you! Really appreciate the feedback! These Gretsch guitars are superb value, they have a different feel to the Es335 but in my view do have better necks. The Epis are still fab too though.
I own the Epi Dot, so of course I’ve had a lot more time to play with it- but this video is a great comparison of two very similar beasts. Hats off to you, sir, for comparing the two. My personal preference is brightness of tone, so naturally I’ll lean more toward my own little beauty. The Gretsch, however, would probably be more alluring to heavier players than myself who like to scoop the mids. (Ah, the artistry of the Subjective Ear. ‘Tis a wonderful thing!)
Thank you! Appreciate your comments, both are great guitars at similar money and both do the job. Yep the DOT is slightly brighter and still love playing it, though tend to grab the Gretsch more often, think I prefer the neck on it.
I have the Epi-335, the sound was thin and horrible until I adjusted the pickups, they were at 7mm but once moved to 2 and 2.5mm the sound is full and round. My Gretsch Jet has the broad'ton pickups, they sound deeper and fuller but less high end, the 335 is more a rockabilly sound IMO, twangy top end.
Thanks for the info, comments are really useful for folks. I agree I experiment with pick up heights it can really make a difference to the output and clarity of a guitar.
Thanks for this review. I had a Dot in my radar but got a 2655T in '21. Now i feel theres no regret. I team it with my Marshall and it sounds glorious. Handles drives better. But yes tend to go bassy nothing which cannot be sorted out with using controls on amp, guutar or pedals. No regrets in getting the Gretsch.
Yep something about the Grestch guitars I just think puts them ahead of the Epiphone. Your Gretsch is good match with the Marshall amp! Glad you are enjoying it, thanks for the comment.
Great video Steve! I couldn't hear much difference in the clean tones, but the Gretsch has more drive and body with distortion. Maybe my ears aren't tuned for clean tones lol 🤘 But if you're going to do a cover of The Ventures play thrash, use the Gretsch 😂
Cheers mate :) They do sound similar but the Gretsch just feels easier and slicker. Funny enough I did learn "Walk don't run" by the Ventures! Normally play it on my Fender Jag but the Gretsch does a good job too. Now will have to check out the thrash Ventures! :) :)
Good comparison. To my ear the Epi was a bit brighter, and I like bright, but the Gretsch has more to offer. I own a Gretsch solid body and it is well built and has good tone. I vote Gretsch.
Very Cool, Thankyou. I have 2 Gretsch a G5215very basic solid body single cut single pickup rock machine and a G5248T Chambered body Double Jet with Bigsby. Both are amazing guitars and so much fun and a pleasure to play, but each has it's own personality. Love Gretsch, they provide quality instruments. Cheers
Cheers! Gretsch do make fantastic guitars at all levels, great quality and really good instruments that I reckon get a bit overlooked, and do deserve better recognition in the guitar world.
Thanks for this. The only side-by-side comparison I've seen. Originally I was wanting a Casino, then started looking at Gretsch and Coronados, but might be settled back on the casino just on the clean sound alone, even though I also need some solid power chord distortion (this in addition to a tele and strat).
Thank you for the comments :) I dont think you will go wrong with either guitar, there are a few other similar hollows out there but have only tried the Wildcat that was ok but for me lacked the depth of sound that the Gretsch had. The Epiphone is also a great guitar, they are making some good quality guitars out there now for the money.
I’ve been playing these 2 guitars back to back for the last month-ish… the Epiphone sounds rich and full with a very balanced tone. The pickups are crisp, it’s a great guitar. The Gretsch is more twangy, much lighter in weight, and it’s perhaps a bit more finicky… but there’s just something about it that feels right, and I can overlook, or even embrace some of its imperfections. And in terms of looks, I without a doubt prefer the Gretsch. The Epiphone 339 I’m playing was brand new, the Gretsch is used (but still relatively new, last 5-7 years), and while I feel like I should like the Epiphone more, I have to say that the Gretsch has really won me over
Thanks for watching and for the comment. Yep I agree the Epiphones are superb but I generally grab the Gretsch first, it just feels better to play. Am hoping to get another Gretsch model next month so will do a review on it. No doubt will also lead to some comparison vids too!
They both sound good but interesting what you say about the Gretsch. I would like another hollowbody….I did for a time own a White Falcon…beautiful guitar….Where are these both made Steve? Thanks for doing the video.
Thank you! Both made in China in their respective factories. That said both Epiphone and I feel especially Gretsch hold high build standards from these factories. Wow a White Falcon! an awesome guitar! Both these guitars hold up well I still own both and still for me the Gretsch just has a bit more feel. I did a vid recently between this Gretsch and a borrowed large bodied one, both fab.
That model Gretsch is the smaller bodied version of that Streamliner series double cut centre blocks. i.e. ES-339 vs ES-335 or like Ibanez's AS to AM models. The Dot is the larger 335 sized body. Gretsch's G2622T would be the same guitar in the 16" body equivalent of the ES-335 & Epiphone Dot. All that said, I'm with you. The Gretsch in this instance, although I'd probably buy its sibling G2622T.
Yep its exactly that, I did try the larger bodied versions but didn't get on with them as well on the day, to me they just didnt have the same tone, one of them almost sounded off for some reason. That could of just been the guitars I tried they can all differ a bit even exact same models may have even been the strings were losing tone. Would like to try out the high end Gretsch guitars for comparisom. These lower end models are superb value though! Thank you for the comments.
@@stevegroves I totally get the smaller body fit thing. I prefer the smaller too -for fit, but I prefer the tone of the larger bodied semi-hollows and hollows. At 5'9" (average western male height internationally excluding North America) I'm not a tall man nor even blessed with instrument favouring ectomorphic proportions by any measure, but I find I can cope with the larger 16" bodies in slimline hollow bodies and centre blocks whereas I avoid Dreadnought and other full size bodied large e-acoustics like the plague. I have a Gretsch G5422TG Electromatic hollow-body and Ibanez Artstar AS113 centre block semi-hollow, both of the 16" 335 style body proportions. I do prefer the body English fit of the smaller Ibanez AM and Gretsch GXX55T but I've noticed a tonal difference I prefer/am looking for in the larger bodies, so compromise on size vs the tone and size wins in my case. Agree the Streamliners are superb value. Reason I'm here. Gretsch in my country are slashing prices at present, so I'm intending buying a Streamliner while the opportunity prevails. I've triaged it to down to one of three. If only I could I would buy all three, but I wouldn't want to see the missus charged with murder!
@@theblytonian3906 Yep being 5'10 myself get what you mean. I do own and play some Dreadnought acoustics as love their tone but often grab a parlour or 000 sized one for noodling or coming up with ideas on as make better couch guitars. Definitely going to try some of the larger Gretsch models again, as with being slimline bodies it does make them easier to play. I love the Gretsch brand, my wife has a Gretsch drum kit, quality id great same as with their guitars. Good luck with the search for the perfect one or three!
@@stevegroves Somehow ended up here today Steve. Abstract, YT alogarithm? Or it might have been it suggested and I watched your honest Champion 100 review/demo. Anyhoo. Just an update. I ended up buying another Gretsch, but not a Streamliner but another Electromatic. The G5xxx Electromatic niche just ticks all the boxes I'm looking for better. Smaller bodied this time in a chambered G5232T Double Jet in drop dead gorgeous Dark Cherry Metallic with its Blacktop Filter'Trons. Looking for close to that early Harrsionesque Beatles sound on a budget. As such the G5230T really appealed in Black and White, but in the end, preferring my Revstar double cut over my Les Paul single cut, couldn't resist the G5232T Double Jet version.
@@theblytonian3906 Thanks for the comments always appeciated. Sounds good. I need to try some of the higher end Gretsch guitars too, quality of their gear is superb.
Hi, thanks for watching and for the comment. Have recently done some research and it seems that some models in the stremliner range have centre blocks if fitted with a Bigsby, while the same models without one are fully hollow. This is the case on the large bodied version I recently did a video on. Confusing! But as you say very well made, they are great quality for the money.
Gretsch headstock to body end is 41" Dot is 42 3/4". Body thickness, both 1 3/4". Max body width is Gretsch 13 3/4", Dot 16 1/8". Body length from where it joins the fretboard is. Gretsch 16 1/4" Dot 18 1/4". The Dot is obviously just a bit heavier. Hope this helps .
Do you have trouble with the Gretch staying in tune? I have the exact guitar but have to retune it after every song. Can you tell me what I am doing wrong?
Hi Dave, mine stays in tune really well. Few things I do that may or may not help. I only use D'Addario XL110 strings on it as they seem to hold tune and last better than other strings I have tried. I always put at least 4-5 turns of string on the tuning posts, I do this with all guitars and it helps stability with bigger break angles on some necks. Your strings might be binding in the top nut try a graphene or nut lube of some type. I havent needed to but I have read this helps many guitars..
The next time that you re-string your guitar, get a pencil and run it through the nut, softer the lead in the pencil the better and give it a good coating. This will lubricate the nut. If that fails there is a little screw on the top of the tuning peg, give it a 1/4 turn , hopefully this will do the trick. If both of these fail, try some better tuners.
my Gretsch can only play Taj Mahal after I put light guage strings on old "Maxine" !! My Sheraton can only do Great full dead with light strings. and Guitar center is teasing me with a tele in the margin ad. right now.
Neck PuP: Gretsch sounds a little bit bassier than epi. Also when strumming chords, Gretsch kinda sounds more "muddier" thatn Epi, the whole strum has more deffinition with Epi Both PuP's: Same as above: gretsch has a more bassier sound and when strumming whole chord, Epi has more deffinition. Bridge PuP's: Same as above: gretsch has a more bassier sound and when strumming whole chord, Epi has more deffinition. When it comes distoriton, both guitar sound pretty similar. Personal taste, inspite I'm not big Dot Fan, I'll go for it, if I had to choose a guitar for CELAN tones.. BUT would I turn down Gretsch? Nah: Gretsch bassy sound seems to feet more for blues, jazz, or more warmer and less loaded kind of music. Is this final? Nah, you can always change the pups, that's it. I bet they added a "cheaper" pair of Pup's on Gretsch, hence the bassy muddy sound, so they could add the tremolo. NEVER FORGET: When choosing an electric guitar, you've to go 25% sound, 75% comfiness. If it sounds like heaven but is a nightmare to play (like many oldschool Les Pauls), at the end you'll hate the guitar. But if the guitar is very comfortable and you can spend hours and hours playing it, you can always change the sound using a different setup of pickups, adding a different capacitor, etc, etc, but it'd be harder to make it more comfortable.
Good comments thank you. I originally bought the Gretsch brand new as wanted something that would give a bluesy feel, it sounds pretty good through valve amps and the tone can be tweeked via my amp and pedal settings. I do prefer the Gretsch in my view it just feels nicer to play and thats definitely important though the Broadtron style budget pups wont appeal to all. I picked up the Dot secondhand at a really crazy low price for its condition. Will be selling it on no doubt at some point, they have their following and are pretty good overall.
Hi Brendan, Its not any particular song just a progression I made up to add consistancy to my demos. That said the slide on the C chord I guess could make it sound a tad like the intro to Blackfoots Highway song, which I learnt to play some time back but that starts in E minor then goes to C rather than A minor to C.
Yep I should have mentioned that. I believe the real early 335 Gibsons suffered feedback, BB King put a rag in his that seemed to cure it. Centre blocks added fixed the issue as well as giving other benefits.
I have no excuses as have a Polytune on my pedal board :) Probably just forgot to re-check in between sections as they can drift from where I keep them to while using them, more so the these than any of my other guitars.. :)
@@stevegroveshmmm that’s interesting to hear. A big thing for me when buying a guitar is I want it to hold it’s tune…are you saying these aren’t great for that??
@@MS-sy8ls Nope they are pretty good at holding tune, I often run a de-humidifier in my guitar room as live in an old stone house that has high humidity. Acoustics and semi hollows more prone to tuning wandering a tad. When I made this vid had also replaced the strings another reason for a bit of drift while playing. Dont be put off they both generally hold tune well, though some folk say the Bigsby on guitars dont help. I dont have an issue with mine.
I often can't hear any major differences in these RUclips comparisions, even using headphones, but the Gretch sounded way better, so what it's like live I don't know, but on here, that bridge pickup really rocks!
Thank you! Appreciate your comment. The Gretsch is a joy to play and price wise is just crazy good. Live sound wise, the recording is pretty close, its why I always play them clean with no effects first so easier to compare and do not make any post recording changes to the audio.
@@stevegroves Yes - it makes a nice change from somebody noodling away at 27 notes per millisecond, distortion maxed out, and no commentry - which is more about 'look how cool I am' and less about 'what a useful review this is.'
And yes, I want one now - I've just asked the missus, and she asks why I need another guitar when I've got a dozen already - they don't understand, bless them.
Anyway, you should definitely be on commission - I just hope Epiphone aren't sending the heavy mob round to break your leg...
@@SuperJ333 Thank you! nice to get positive feedback. Part of the reason I enjoy doing these vids is because of the frustration of watching them with a rock God thrashing out tunes and giving no idea about how it actually sounds. My Gretsch is the smaller bodied version, I tried the larger ones too, all sounded great but just loved the feel and ease of playing of the smaller one. All had great necks. Good luck please report back on what you get :)
Nice playing! Functional comparison! Thanks for putting in the effort and the great results! 🙏
Thank you! Appreciate the feedback :)
Thanks for the video. I agree with your Gretsch preference. Those streamliners come setup so well from the factory it's surprising for the price. And the neck feel for some reason has become my all time favourite over my Gibson SG, Epiphone LP or even Fender strat. The new Gretsch guitars really are hitting it out of the park these days and are very underrated I feel.
Thank you! Yep they are often overlooked but offer great value for money without any quality issues even on the entry level lower end ones. I must try some of their upper end models at some point bet they are incredible..
Epi , they are turning out works of art.
Hi Steve, just came across your comparison video& really enjoyed the content & your playing. I have had the Gretch Streamliner 2655T since May 2021 & it suits me. At the time I was awaiting an Epiphone Casino but it was unavailable on back order so opted for the Gretch. I love the look & sound of the ES 335 & it was good to see the comparison, thank you.
Thank you! Really appreciate the feedback! These Gretsch guitars are superb value, they have a different feel to the Es335 but in my view do have better necks. The Epis are still fab too though.
I own the Epi Dot, so of course I’ve had a lot more time to play with it- but this video is a great comparison of two very similar beasts. Hats off to you, sir, for comparing the two.
My personal preference is brightness of tone, so naturally I’ll lean more toward my own little beauty. The Gretsch, however, would probably be more alluring to heavier players than myself who like to scoop the mids. (Ah, the artistry of the Subjective Ear. ‘Tis a wonderful thing!)
Thank you! Appreciate your comments, both are great guitars at similar money and both do the job. Yep the DOT is slightly brighter and still love playing it, though tend to grab the Gretsch more often, think I prefer the neck on it.
I have the Epi-335, the sound was thin and horrible until I adjusted the pickups, they were at 7mm but once moved to 2 and 2.5mm the sound is full and round. My Gretsch Jet has the broad'ton pickups, they sound deeper and fuller but less high end, the 335 is more a rockabilly sound IMO, twangy top end.
Thanks for the info, comments are really useful for folks. I agree I experiment with pick up heights it can really make a difference to the output and clarity of a guitar.
Ty,yes she's friendly open sounds,the epiphone academic rock...i prefer the Gretsch
Yep I just find the Gretsch more pleasing to play overall.
Thanks for this review. I had a Dot in my radar but got a 2655T in '21. Now i feel theres no regret. I team it with my Marshall and it sounds glorious. Handles drives better. But yes tend to go bassy nothing which cannot be sorted out with using controls on amp, guutar or pedals. No regrets in getting the Gretsch.
Yep something about the Grestch guitars I just think puts them ahead of the Epiphone. Your Gretsch is good match with the Marshall amp! Glad you are enjoying it, thanks for the comment.
Great video Steve! I couldn't hear much difference in the clean tones, but the Gretsch has more drive and body with distortion. Maybe my ears aren't tuned for clean tones lol 🤘 But if you're going to do a cover of The Ventures play thrash, use the Gretsch 😂
Cheers mate :) They do sound similar but the Gretsch just feels easier and slicker. Funny enough I did learn "Walk don't run" by the Ventures! Normally play it on my Fender Jag but the Gretsch does a good job too. Now will have to check out the thrash Ventures! :) :)
Good comparison. To my ear the Epi was a bit brighter, and I like bright, but the Gretsch has more to offer. I own a Gretsch solid body and it is well built and has good tone. I vote Gretsch.
Thank you! Yep they both are great guitars both have a different feel, love the EPI but tend to grab the Gretsch far more often.
Very Cool, Thankyou. I have 2 Gretsch a G5215very basic solid body single cut single pickup rock machine and a G5248T Chambered body Double Jet with Bigsby. Both are amazing guitars and so much fun and a pleasure to play, but each has it's own personality. Love Gretsch, they provide quality instruments. Cheers
Cheers! Gretsch do make fantastic guitars at all levels, great quality and really good instruments that I reckon get a bit overlooked, and do deserve better recognition in the guitar world.
Thanks for this. The only side-by-side comparison I've seen. Originally I was wanting a Casino, then started looking at Gretsch and Coronados, but might be settled back on the casino just on the clean sound alone, even though I also need some solid power chord distortion (this in addition to a tele and strat).
Thank you for the comments :) I dont think you will go wrong with either guitar, there are a few other similar hollows out there but have only tried the Wildcat that was ok but for me lacked the depth of sound that the Gretsch had. The Epiphone is also a great guitar, they are making some good quality guitars out there now for the money.
I’ve been playing these 2 guitars back to back for the last month-ish… the Epiphone sounds rich and full with a very balanced tone. The pickups are crisp, it’s a great guitar.
The Gretsch is more twangy, much lighter in weight, and it’s perhaps a bit more finicky… but there’s just something about it that feels right, and I can overlook, or even embrace some of its imperfections. And in terms of looks, I without a doubt prefer the Gretsch.
The Epiphone 339 I’m playing was brand new, the Gretsch is used (but still relatively new, last 5-7 years), and while I feel like I should like the Epiphone more, I have to say that the Gretsch has really won me over
Thanks for watching and for the comment. Yep I agree the Epiphones are superb but I generally grab the Gretsch first, it just feels better to play. Am hoping to get another Gretsch model next month so will do a review on it. No doubt will also lead to some comparison vids too!
They both sound good but interesting what you say about the Gretsch. I would like another hollowbody….I did for a time own a White Falcon…beautiful guitar….Where are these both made Steve? Thanks for doing the video.
Thank you! Both made in China in their respective factories. That said both Epiphone and I feel especially Gretsch hold high build standards from these factories. Wow a White Falcon! an awesome guitar! Both these guitars hold up well I still own both and still for me the Gretsch just has a bit more feel. I did a vid recently between this Gretsch and a borrowed large bodied one, both fab.
That model Gretsch is the smaller bodied version of that Streamliner series double cut centre blocks. i.e. ES-339 vs ES-335 or like Ibanez's AS to AM models. The Dot is the larger 335 sized body. Gretsch's G2622T would be the same guitar in the 16" body equivalent of the ES-335 & Epiphone Dot. All that said, I'm with you. The Gretsch in this instance, although I'd probably buy its sibling G2622T.
Yep its exactly that, I did try the larger bodied versions but didn't get on with them as well on the day, to me they just didnt have the same tone, one of them almost sounded off for some reason. That could of just been the guitars I tried they can all differ a bit even exact same models may have even been the strings were losing tone. Would like to try out the high end Gretsch guitars for comparisom. These lower end models are superb value though! Thank you for the comments.
@@stevegroves I totally get the smaller body fit thing. I prefer the smaller too -for fit, but I prefer the tone of the larger bodied semi-hollows and hollows. At 5'9" (average western male height internationally excluding North America) I'm not a tall man nor even blessed with instrument favouring ectomorphic proportions by any measure, but I find I can cope with the larger 16" bodies in slimline hollow bodies and centre blocks whereas I avoid Dreadnought and other full size bodied large e-acoustics like the plague.
I have a Gretsch G5422TG Electromatic hollow-body and Ibanez Artstar AS113 centre block semi-hollow, both of the 16" 335 style body proportions. I do prefer the body English fit of the smaller Ibanez AM and Gretsch GXX55T but I've noticed a tonal difference I prefer/am looking for in the larger bodies, so compromise on size vs the tone and size wins in my case. Agree the Streamliners are superb value. Reason I'm here. Gretsch in my country are slashing prices at present, so I'm intending buying a Streamliner while the opportunity prevails. I've triaged it to down to one of three. If only I could I would buy all three, but I wouldn't want to see the missus charged with murder!
@@theblytonian3906 Yep being 5'10 myself get what you mean. I do own and play some Dreadnought acoustics as love their tone but often grab a parlour or 000 sized one for noodling or coming up with ideas on as make better couch guitars. Definitely going to try some of the larger Gretsch models again, as with being slimline bodies it does make them easier to play. I love the Gretsch brand, my wife has a Gretsch drum kit, quality id great same as with their guitars. Good luck with the search for the perfect one or three!
@@stevegroves Somehow ended up here today Steve. Abstract, YT alogarithm? Or it might have been it suggested and I watched your honest Champion 100 review/demo. Anyhoo. Just an update. I ended up buying another Gretsch, but not a Streamliner but another Electromatic. The G5xxx Electromatic niche just ticks all the boxes I'm looking for better. Smaller bodied this time in a chambered G5232T Double Jet in drop dead gorgeous Dark Cherry Metallic with its Blacktop Filter'Trons. Looking for close to that early Harrsionesque Beatles sound on a budget. As such the G5230T really appealed in Black and White, but in the end, preferring my Revstar double cut over my Les Paul single cut, couldn't resist the G5232T Double Jet version.
@@theblytonian3906 Thanks for the comments always appeciated. Sounds good. I need to try some of the higher end Gretsch guitars too, quality of their gear is superb.
I found that hollow body Gretsch to be neck heavy. standing. Excellent workmanship from Indonesia though. The Epiphone Dot is of course semi-hollow.
Hi, thanks for watching and for the comment. Have recently done some research and it seems that some models in the stremliner range have centre blocks if fitted with a Bigsby, while the same models without one are fully hollow. This is the case on the large bodied version I recently did a video on. Confusing! But as you say very well made, they are great quality for the money.
Gretsch all day for me
Thanks for the comment, yep TBH I reckon they offer more bang for the buck all round.
The 330 is cleaner, but the streamliner is my fav by far.
Cheers! Yep both are great guitars just comes down to personal preference in the end. Still got the Epi and still play it.
What a fantastic video
Thank you very much really appreciate your kind comment :)
That's the Gretsch Jr.
Yep model number "Streamliner G2655T"
What's the difference in size, body width and overall length?
Gretsch headstock to body end is 41" Dot is 42 3/4". Body thickness, both 1 3/4". Max body width is Gretsch 13 3/4", Dot 16 1/8". Body length from where it joins the fretboard is. Gretsch 16 1/4" Dot 18 1/4". The Dot is obviously just a bit heavier. Hope this helps .
@@stevegroves Fantastic, thanks. 👍
@@Focal_Paradox No probs! happy to help when I can :)
Do you have trouble with the Gretch staying in tune? I have the exact guitar but have to retune it after every song.
Can you tell me what I am doing wrong?
Hi Dave, mine stays in tune really well. Few things I do that may or may not help. I only use D'Addario XL110 strings on it as they seem to hold tune and last better than other strings I have tried. I always put at least 4-5 turns of string on the tuning posts, I do this with all guitars and it helps stability with bigger break angles on some necks. Your strings might be binding in the top nut try a graphene or nut lube of some type. I havent needed to but I have read this helps many guitars..
The next time that you re-string your guitar, get a pencil and run it through the nut, softer the lead in the pencil the better and give it a good coating. This will lubricate the nut. If that fails there is a little screw on the top of the tuning peg, give it a 1/4 turn , hopefully this will do the trick.
If both of these fail, try some better tuners.
my Gretsch can only play Taj Mahal after I put light guage strings on old "Maxine" !! My Sheraton can only do Great full dead with light strings. and Guitar center is teasing me with a tele in the margin ad. right now.
Neck PuP: Gretsch sounds a little bit bassier than epi. Also when strumming chords, Gretsch kinda sounds more "muddier" thatn Epi, the whole strum has more deffinition with Epi
Both PuP's: Same as above: gretsch has a more bassier sound and when strumming whole chord, Epi has more deffinition.
Bridge PuP's: Same as above: gretsch has a more bassier sound and when strumming whole chord, Epi has more deffinition.
When it comes distoriton, both guitar sound pretty similar.
Personal taste, inspite I'm not big Dot Fan, I'll go for it, if I had to choose a guitar for CELAN tones.. BUT would I turn down Gretsch? Nah:
Gretsch bassy sound seems to feet more for blues, jazz, or more warmer and less loaded kind of music. Is this final? Nah, you can always change the pups, that's it.
I bet they added a "cheaper" pair of Pup's on Gretsch, hence the bassy muddy sound, so they could add the tremolo.
NEVER FORGET: When choosing an electric guitar, you've to go 25% sound, 75% comfiness. If it sounds like heaven but is a nightmare to play (like many oldschool Les Pauls), at the end you'll hate the guitar. But if the guitar is very comfortable and you can spend hours and hours playing it, you can always change the sound using a different setup of pickups, adding a different capacitor, etc, etc, but it'd be harder to make it more comfortable.
Good comments thank you. I originally bought the Gretsch brand new as wanted something that would give a bluesy feel, it sounds pretty good through valve amps and the tone can be tweeked via my amp and pedal settings. I do prefer the Gretsch in my view it just feels nicer to play and thats definitely important though the Broadtron style budget pups wont appeal to all. I picked up the Dot secondhand at a really crazy low price for its condition. Will be selling it on no doubt at some point, they have their following and are pretty good overall.
What song is the first one you play on both?
Hi Brendan, Its not any particular song just a progression I made up to add consistancy to my demos. That said the slide on the C chord I guess could make it sound a tad like the intro to Blackfoots Highway song, which I learnt to play some time back but that starts in E minor then goes to C rather than A minor to C.
@@stevegroves ok cool thanks for the reply I just really liked the riff and it sounded familiar
My ears say the epiphone plays a little, " Thinner" than the Gretsch.
I agree, the Epi has clarity but the Gretsch has a slightly fuller sound.
They are not hollow. They are semi-hollow with center blocks.
Yep I should have mentioned that. I believe the real early 335 Gibsons suffered feedback, BB King put a rag in his that seemed to cure it. Centre blocks added fixed the issue as well as giving other benefits.
Both guitars are out of tune… good demo.
I have no excuses as have a Polytune on my pedal board :) Probably just forgot to re-check in between sections as they can drift from where I keep them to while using them, more so the these than any of my other guitars.. :)
@@stevegroveshmmm that’s interesting to hear. A big thing for me when buying a guitar is I want it to hold it’s tune…are you saying these aren’t great for that??
@@MS-sy8ls Nope they are pretty good at holding tune, I often run a de-humidifier in my guitar room as live in an old stone house that has high humidity. Acoustics and semi hollows more prone to tuning wandering a tad. When I made this vid had also replaced the strings another reason for a bit of drift while playing. Dont be put off they both generally hold tune well, though some folk say the Bigsby on guitars dont help. I dont have an issue with mine.
@@stevegroves amazing, thank you!