Yes It was basically those kits are versatile on different fronts or theaters on that era even South Korean soldiers wore the same outfit just like their American counterparts during and after the Korean war following its training that they received from the United States military
Just when I thought US unforms couldn't get any cooler! This combines the best part of the WW2 European uniform (the cool coat) with the best part of the Vietnam uniform (the M16). It would also be interesting to think about what a later Korean War would be like. Maybe the full-auto M16 would help against Chinese human wave tactics? Would attack helicopters be vital in clearing enemy positions in mountainous terrain?
Wow I am Korean and I am especially interested in the Korean and U.S. military in the 6-80s! Your video is very interesting!! :) In addition, I am very envious and wonderful of the courtesy and honor of American soldiers. Also, I offer my condolences to the American soldiers who sacrificed themselves for the Republic of Korea..
@@certifiedhistorynerd i also had the chance to get me an army vietnam trench coat, but my dad said "no more buying military stuff until February" because i have too much stuff
@@certifiedhistorynerd Vietnam has a diverse natural wonders considering it's tropical but in the northern segment of the country which is near in China basically the temperature is already cold enough especially in the highlands of northern Vietnam
I can’t wait to see more videos I also have an idea, in ww1 America made a prototype helmet called the model 8 helmet but was never issued to soldiers maybe make a video about it anyway I can’t wait to see what you come out with
Although in Vietnam ya had guys were the green side in brown environments and the brown side in green environments so who’s ta say history wouldn’t repeat itself, however yes the brown side probably would be more prominent in Winter.
@@certifiedhistorynerd Mitchell was adopted in 1953. The reversibility was meant as a sort of "Universal camo solution" (That age-old Icarian task) to any theater that the Marine corps could encounter (Wine Leaf for Summer/Spring/Tropics, Clouds for Winter/Fall/Mountainous). If the pattern was deemed well enough for tropic use, I'm certain it would be widely adopted by all branches for a temperate AO. It's not really as much of a "Vietnam camo" (even though it's highly associated with that conflict); It's really just an upgraded P42 Frog Skin with their knowledge from Korea.
OG-108 wool shirts (and pants) were still in service by the time of Vietnam. To my knowledge, they stayed in service until the BDU was introduced. I personally own a shirt that was owned by someone who was garrisoned in Korea. They were designed to be a layering system with the M1951/65 field uniform, similar to the M1943 system before them. The overcoat you are wearing is a post Korean war overcoat, although I'm not sure it is something that saw field service. It shares a lot of similarities to the overcoat made for the Army Greens dress uniform. Your scenario also depends a lot on if this conflict was happening in addition to Vietnam, or instead of it. If instead, it is probable the M16 isn't even brought into service. If they both happen, M16s would see prioritization going to Vietnam, so they would still be incredibly rare. I agree with your take on ERDL, I think it would work rather well in that climate and region.
Thanks for the information! Yeah there is definitely some more research that should’ve been put into this, I might remake it later with some more things
Why try to speculate about the uniform and equipment? All that is necessary is to research what uniforms and equipment were issued in the 1960s in Korea and in the US Army in Germany.
Yeah well if the first Korean War is called the forgotten war of course I didn’t know about the second one lol. Thanks for the link though I’ll check that video out!
@@certifiedhistorynerd Cool. It's Mark Felton, so it's a quality video. I put quotation marks on second because it's of course one long conflict, still not resolved. We've only signed an armistice, not a peace treaty.
It’s actually cool because it looks like either a stateside national guardsman, and MP, or a soldier stationed in Germany in the 60’s
Yeah I know lol, I like how it turned out and I’m definitely gonna make this a series now.
Yes It was basically those kits are versatile on different fronts or theaters on that era even South Korean soldiers wore the same outfit just like their American counterparts during and after the Korean war following its training that they received from the United States military
The U.S did actually fight in Korea in the 1960s. The Korean DMZ Conflict lasted from 1966 to 1969.
Oh yeah I had forgotten about that
Just when I thought US unforms couldn't get any cooler! This combines the best part of the WW2 European uniform (the cool coat) with the best part of the Vietnam uniform (the M16).
It would also be interesting to think about what a later Korean War would be like. Maybe the full-auto M16 would help against Chinese human wave tactics? Would attack helicopters be vital in clearing enemy positions in mountainous terrain?
Yeah I might dive a little deeper into this someday, I’ll even see if I can get some of my squad mates ta join in
Wow I am Korean and I am especially interested in the Korean and U.S. military in the 6-80s! Your video is very interesting!! :) In addition, I am very envious and wonderful of the courtesy and honor of American soldiers. Also, I offer my condolences to the American soldiers who sacrificed themselves for the Republic of Korea..
The coldest temperature recorded in Vietnam was −6.1 °C (21.0 °F) in Sa Pa on 4 January 1974.
- Wikipedia
note this was on a mountain range/peak
Interesting idea or alternate history love it.
Thank ya!
That's pretty cool! I have a 1963 USMC trench coat. I also have an airsoft m14. And a m16 replica.
Oh cool!
Need ta get me a M65 or M51 jacket
@@certifiedhistorynerd i also had the chance to get me an army vietnam trench coat, but my dad said "no more buying military stuff until February" because i have too much stuff
@@SGTLevi011 lol, yeah I know that feeling
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That kit can can be applied on a east asian environment during the cold war like korea and japan,china 1960s
Yeah that’s kinda what I was going for lol, should probably rename it
@@certifiedhistorynerd Vietnam has a diverse natural wonders considering it's tropical but in the northern segment of the country which is near in China basically the temperature is already cold enough especially in the highlands of northern Vietnam
@@portraitsofarts_893 yeah that’s a part of Vietnam I kinda wanna learn more about
@@certifiedhistorynerdmy pleasure to update you buddy
I can’t wait to see more videos I also have an idea, in ww1 America made a prototype helmet called the model 8 helmet but was never issued to soldiers maybe make a video about it anyway I can’t wait to see what you come out with
Thanks man! I’ll try ta think of more things, maybe I’ll do another one soon
The trench coat is post ww2 for sure possibly Korean War era I personally own a trench coat just like that.
Had someone tell me it’s post Korean, looks like a model 53 from what I’ve seen, don’t know for sure though.
afgan but cold
Don’t have that stuff lol
lol@@certifiedhistorynerd
You should flip your cover to the Mitchell pattern. Once it gets cold, brown dominated patterns are going to work better than the "wine leaf".
Depends on the environment, for like Korea yeah but in a Colder Vietnam probably not, although it probably would’ve made more sense.
Although in Vietnam ya had guys were the green side in brown environments and the brown side in green environments so who’s ta say history wouldn’t repeat itself, however yes the brown side probably would be more prominent in Winter.
But again this is all speculation so who knows
As I said in the video there probably would’ve been a different camo pattern (similar to ERDL) that would have been designed for this environment.
@@certifiedhistorynerd Mitchell was adopted in 1953. The reversibility was meant as a sort of "Universal camo solution" (That age-old Icarian task) to any theater that the Marine corps could encounter (Wine Leaf for Summer/Spring/Tropics, Clouds for Winter/Fall/Mountainous). If the pattern was deemed well enough for tropic use, I'm certain it would be widely adopted by all branches for a temperate AO.
It's not really as much of a "Vietnam camo" (even though it's highly associated with that conflict); It's really just an upgraded P42 Frog Skin with their knowledge from Korea.
Those grenades would never be 'hung' on the web-belt like that.
What? That’s where they’re supposed ta be. There’s literally photos of them doing it, not only that that’s literally where they’re made ta be.
OG-108 wool shirts (and pants) were still in service by the time of Vietnam. To my knowledge, they stayed in service until the BDU was introduced. I personally own a shirt that was owned by someone who was garrisoned in Korea. They were designed to be a layering system with the M1951/65 field uniform, similar to the M1943 system before them. The overcoat you are wearing is a post Korean war overcoat, although I'm not sure it is something that saw field service. It shares a lot of similarities to the overcoat made for the Army Greens dress uniform.
Your scenario also depends a lot on if this conflict was happening in addition to Vietnam, or instead of it. If instead, it is probable the M16 isn't even brought into service. If they both happen, M16s would see prioritization going to Vietnam, so they would still be incredibly rare. I agree with your take on ERDL, I think it would work rather well in that climate and region.
Thanks for the information! Yeah there is definitely some more research that should’ve been put into this, I might remake it later with some more things
@@certifiedhistorynerd my theory is that they would end up reissuing stocks of WWII greatcoats and cold weather gear.
@@ConnorLundeen yeah that’s why I have the post Korean War trench coat.
@@ConnorLundeenwouldn’t happen. They had plenty of issue cold weather gear, plus he woulda been wearing a fishtail parka.
@@goforbroke4428 they had plenty of cold weather stock for a volunteer army, but not mass conscription as a conflict in Korea would require.
Why try to speculate about the uniform and equipment? All that is necessary is to research what uniforms and equipment were issued in the 1960s in Korea and in the US Army in Germany.
It’s more fun ta speculate lol
pretty interesting
Wouldn’t be wearing jungle fatigues. Or jungle bootsYou’d have been issued og 107s like everyone not in Vietnam.
Yeah I know I mentioned that in the video
Alternate??? He doesn't know about the "second" Korean War! Behold: ruclips.net/video/3hpFsKqaIuc/видео.html
Yeah well if the first Korean War is called the forgotten war of course I didn’t know about the second one lol. Thanks for the link though I’ll check that video out!
@@certifiedhistorynerd Cool. It's Mark Felton, so it's a quality video. I put quotation marks on second because it's of course one long conflict, still not resolved. We've only signed an armistice, not a peace treaty.
@@The_Conspiracy_Analyst yeah I can’t believe I never knew there was a second conflict in the late 60s lol