*BUFFYS THE VILLAIN?* Buffy the Vampire Slayer S4 Ep 15 "This Year's Girl" Reaction FIRST TIME WATCH
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"5 by 5"
Thor: "Ha ha ha ha......... WAIT".
Love it.
Such a Spike level reaction :D
"five by five" -- heh heh *internal dialog* "that's funny Buffy just used Faiths phrase..." *Tick tick tick ding!* "Wait!!!"
LOL yah that was fun to watch, i think it was her facial expression after the "5x5" that made him snap out of his initial reaction
I love Joyce roasting Faith this episode. Go Joyce!
No, that wasn't the Initiative. Faith was held at a normal hospital.
At a normal, light dimmer lovin’ hospital.
Thor, you always underestimated the Mayor's love for Faith. It made complete sense for me that he'd forget all hiscalculations when confronted with the woman that hurt his little girl, gloating on his face.
And the acting next episode is, IIRC, off the charts.
Yeah, absolutely. He got taken down despite all his calculations and planning by his love for Faith and his rage at Buffy hurting her.
The best explanation I’ve ever come up with for why Faith was helping Buffy in her dreams at the end of Season 3 and why Buffy was murdering Faith in her dreams in this episode was that the two slayers exist in each others minds in the form that reflects the host. So Buffy is in general a selfless and positive person, so when Buffy was dreaming and connecting with Faith, she got the parts of Faith that were the most positive attributes Faith possessed. When Faith dreamed of Buffy, Faith is filled with trauma and violence and rage and so the Buffy in her mind is just the parts of Buffy that are violent and brutal (attributes she needs to fight demons). They are mirrors reflecting the best and worst of the ppl and the world around them.
Lmao not Thor twice now forgetting about the watchers council 😂 14:51
The delayed reaction at the end was great.
My take on that old Faith Buffy dream, is that it was a Slayer Dream realm. In that area, it was more Faith's pure Slayer self, without any of the corruption. So that part helped Buffy. While the human real Faith with darkness and human emotions still holds a grudge when she wakes from the coma.
@@B-Dad A reason I think it couldn't have just been Buffy is that when Faith said "Just take what you need" it was Faith giving over some of her share of the slayer power to Buffy, which allowed Buffy to immediately come too, and be completely at full strength immediately, while Faith remained in a coma for a lot longer.
Yeah I've always seen it as the slayer dreams are part of the slayer power and Buffy a faith share that power and therefore they are connected in a kind of slayer collective consciousness that has prophetic sense.
Bringing back Faith when it was the last thing anyone was expecting is one of the many reasons that make this show so great.
Faith wasn't in the Initiative, she was in the jail ward of the hospital. Given the British guys showing up in Giles' apartment, I think we can assume the nurse who made the mysterious phone call was with the Watcher's Council (I really like the realization that even in a coma, Faith is still a Slayer, and has a Watcher: it raises the question, could they have a covert Watcher keeping tabs on Buffy despite her "mutiny" last season?)
On the dreams, I think Faith being helpful was a dream of Buffy's, while Buffy-as-Terminator was a dream of Faith's. Which is greatly revealing of how they see each other.
You wanted the Mayor to be killed in a way fitting for how great of a villian he was?
I mean, they blew up an entire school to kill him. How much more epic can you get? 😅
Well they could have chased him with a huge barrel labelled Ebola :)
Blowing up a hole town?
That would have been epic to show how big of an evil something id😁
@Siggi Linde yeah but he's only ONE of MANY demons. While he was epic, he wasn't blow up the entire town epic.
@@startingQB It's joke ;)
@@siggilinde5623 I know
Joyce is such a mood in this episode 😂
Faith is back. 🥰 Seriously one of my favourite characters in the whole Buffyverse.
She deserves more love!!🤎
One of the things I love about Buffy/Angel is the little bits of dialogue that seem kind of ordinary on a first watch, but are actually little bits of foreshadowing that you don't notice until a rewatch: Case in point from this episode, Buffy/Faith's exchange at the college: "If I were her I'd get out of dodge post hasty" "You're not me"
Everyone was so engrossed in the season 4 plot points and it was getting so good, then the writers go: "Oh yea? think things are crazy now? Hold our beers" :-) Also: "Hi mom" "Hi Honey" I love that scene.
5x5 is a military pilot term. On a scale of 1-5, how loud is the transmission coming in? How clear is the transmission coming in?
Yep, "5 by 5" = "loud and clear".
When this episode came out I can't express how thrilled i was when I saw that Faith was waking up. It also didn't help that I had the BIGGEST crush on Eliza Dushku. Faith's story is incredible and underrated. I'll always wish she would've taken on a Faith spin off series.
Also, it was the council that was still after Faith and keeping tabs on her. That was them at Giles's house hence why he called him Rupert. The initiative never knew about Faith.
SPOILER(?)
The fact Faith was never even included in an opening credit is a CRIME to me!X-(( 💔
@Nicamon I mean she was also mentioned as "and Eliza Dushku as Faith." but no she was never properly put in the intro.
@@BloodofaFool I never realized it until I saw some fanmade openings that _did_ feature her. I firmly believed she was in a canon one as well,but,alas...I was wrong!:"""-(((
@@Nicamon yeah i noticed right away lol. I followed Eliza's career though she never did huge movies besides Bring It On and Wrong Turn. I had the chance to meet her at at an Atlanta Dragoncon and thanked her for making me realize exactly how gay I was. 🤣 shes a beautiful woman.
@@BloodofaFool Wow,happy for you!😄Apart from"Buffy"I only saw her in"Tru Calling"and,years later,"Dollhouse"(plus her cameo in"The Big Bang Theory"^^). I wanted to watch her in"Wrong Turn"but it's a horror movie and I'm a scaredy cat,so I don't trust it...!:-S
People tend to forget that the Mayor is also human. No matter how big and bad anyone is they have weaknesses. Like Troy who was undefeated, he was taken down by something no one would have thought of. The mayor's Achilles Heel was Faith. I think it was genius that he was destroyed by something that was insignificant to everyone but fatal for him.
Haha that reaction you had at the ending was so great! Just laugh... wait what?
This episode and the next are two of my favorites in the entire series.
I'm not strong enough to wait two weeks for every episode. 😢
can't wait to see the next episode!as you can guess body swapping also means role swapping for the actresses...and they do just great!!
Next ep is 1 of the best of them all!!Can't wait!!🤩🤎💛
There aren't too many good or evil people, there are just people & we can all do good and evil things, often simultaneously.
Dreams are a part of the supernatural powers of a Slayer. Some slayer dreams can foretell the future, like at the very beginning of the show when Buffy was dreaming about the Master and the Harvest. Some slayer dreams show the present, like when Buffy and Angel were sharing the dream where the First Evil was torturing Angel with dreams of his evil past deeds. However, in this case think the true slayer parts of Buffy and Faith were connecting in a dream space where they can talk to each other, and maybe they can access the future or the present during their time in that place, but I don't think the emnity exists in the dream space because it's a place for more important things. Since it appears that Buffy's temporary death caused the first instance of having 2 slayers alive at one time, this is uncharted territory.
she was in the hospital, not the initiative. the lady called and the british people showed up. so you asked what the watchers council had been up to and theres the answer.
Say what you want about season 4's shaky arch & goofy main villain, but there's as many or more 5 star memorable individual episodes in it as any other season.
The initiative didn’t know slayers existed.
Season 3 is overall incredible, and these two episodes are my absolute favourite of the entire season. You're in for a treat with part 2
Everybody already filled in the behind the scenes stuff so....glad there wasn't a "previously on Buffy" that always spoils stuff
The Mayor is so great to see again and oh yeah Faith is back!! Some great moments and themes in this
Oh here we go. People like to complain about S4 but this episode is a clear indicator of why I love it so much. And there are 22 episodes in this season....and every other season except S1.
My favorite part of this episode is when the audience realizes that Faith has switched bodies with Buffy. Man, but SMG just nails that last scene. "5X5." It just kills me every....single...time.
I’m so glad that I found your channel, man! I’ve always wanted to watch Buffy but kept putting it off. But now, I’ve finished it and now I’m waiting on your reactions.
Just out of curiosity, did you manage to stay unspoiled for the whole thing? I'm always amazed if people can, it seems like little bits of the plots and themes are out everywhere
@@nancytoothaker3224 for the most part. I had known that Oz was a werewolf so I looked up what his werewolf form looked like, because after seeing the werewolves in Supernatural, I didn’t wanna be disappointed…again.
Maybe faith also projected how Buffy forgot _her_ onto Joyce
Yeah, not even Spike punched Joyce
Hell, if someone tried to punch Joyce in Spike's presence, he would punch them, even if it hurt his head to do it! The Joyce/Spike relationship is pure gold...
Been looking forward to you getting to this arc! It is so good, you are in for a good ride!
Being an adult now rewatching Buffy I can feel more empathy for Faiths character. She has a rough childhood and upbringing. She was the outcast. She never had close friends, family and watched her watcher die. She didn’t have the love, support or respect that Buffy got. Even before she turned into a villain she lived alone in a dingy motel room and nobody offered to help her. She went down the wrong path and was manipulated by the only person who was a parental role model to her. She’s like a lost child who is craving love and attention and she did everything she could to make the mayor feel proud of her.
I’m not excusing her actions but looking at it from this point of view makes Faiths character seem more tragic 😢
Yeah, I love Faith. I think being "the bad guy" was the only route she felt like she had to stand out and not just be a second rate version of Buffy. And I get the sense she was told her whole life that she was worthless and not any good, so she decided to be what people expected her to.
Faith had a lot to overcome.
I love when you make an unfounded assumption/guess (Faith held by the Initiative?!? Faith was in the hospital months before we found out the Initiative even existed) and then double down on that theory in spite of conflicting information, like if she was held by them, how does she just walk out of a "hospital" (not the secret base) and end up on the street in downtown Sunnydale (not a college campus)... :)
Is this some other secret organization?!? Well, it MIGHT be the Watcher's Council, given they are an organization that actually KNOWS about Slayers, Faith in particular, and has a vested interest in keeping tabs on her condition...
It's awesome! Some of the best wrong theories! ;)
Got super hype watching your 'Goodbye Iowa' reaction yestersday, realizing this ep was up next!
One the the many episodes in which you will start it and go “am I watching the right episode?” 😂
So much foreshadowing in this episode.
I think the idea of Faith giving Buffy information was her slayer "side" still wanting to do good. I don't think its ever really exspained.
Buffy killed Faith's "Father". So, Faith wants to kill Buffy's Mother.
Posting my BUFFY REWATCH recap for ‘This Year’s Girl’. May contain spoilers.
Here Willow shares details with Tara about the plan for the day in capturing Faith, presumably ready to introduce her to the Scooby Gang, or at least Buffy. Up until now Willow hasn’t mentioned that there is violence involved in what the Gang do together other than Buffy’s slaying. Tara confesses she can’t fight. Willow assures her that their job would be just locating Faith and then telling Buffy where she is. They wouldn’t have to do any fighting as it’s just reconnaissance. And if Faith did notice them, they can just run and hide.
These new revealed details about what the Scooby Gang does on an average day out patrolling with the Slayer makes Tara view Willow in a whole new light:
“She’s a girl who likes to get into the action. I’ve got a really cool girlfriend.”
The Initiative doesn't know about Faith. She was just at the hospital, and the people talking about her were normal doctors and police, except for that one nurse, who works undercover for the Watcher's Council.
Super fun, loving this!
Joyce is savage and I love it!
5 by 5 means 'Loud and clear' or 'I understand'.
Yay!! I love faith so much. Eliza Dushku is the best. I've been waiting so long for you to get here. Lol. Season 3&4 are some of my least favourites, but Faith makes everything better... for viewing, maybe not if you're a scoobie.😅😅
I Liked your comment,but I *STRONGLY DISAGREE* on your judgement about season 3&4...season 3 is the best of all seasons and season 4 is still better than others for the presence of episodes like"Hush"and this one and the next one 😉🤎💛 and even just for the fact that *SPOILER* it's the only season that has both Oz&Tara!🧡🤍
It will be interesting to see your joint reaction to the films "Space Truckers" and "Robocop 3". This is a cool immortal classic 👍
Yesssss, finally! I was so waiting for this story arc! I love it so much. :)
Hi Thor, I've been going through your Buffy (and Angel reactions).
On Faith--okay, I certainly don't want her or anyone to ever hurt Joyce, but I just have to appreciate how much Faith just straight up sounds like a spurned lover as she's ranting to her about Buffy "moving on." It's well known at this point that Eliza always intentionally played Faith as attracted to/crushing on Buffy, and while that might not have been Whedon's intention, Douglas Petrie (the writer of this episode as well as several other key Faith episodes) recognized that, liked it, and leaned into the subtext as much as he could.
It doesn't make anything Faith does better/more excusable--if anything it's worse--but it's SO much more interesting than Faith just being this new slayer showing up and being resentful and jealous of the protagonist in the usual way that girls are assumed to be jealous of each other. Like yes, some of that is definitely there, feelings of inadequacy because she went from nothing to being the chosen one yet she's sharing the spotlight with someone who appears to do it better, but even more than that she wants to be as important to Buffy as Angel--or even Riley--is, and so much of her self-victimization (there's a strong implication that a lot of bad things we don't even know about probably happened to Faith before we met her but she's certainly not Buffy's victim beyond getting stabbed which only happened because she pushed and pushed and pushed her into a corner) and trying to cast Buffy as another villain in her story is her inability to deal with feelings that make her vulnerable.
Ok I looked it up and Eliza Dushku is actually Five foot Five inches 😅
I always feel like it’s been too long 💜 all love though as always💕
Have been waiting for you to get to this episode! Faith is absolutely delicious with her lines. I love her so freaking much. Favorite fictional character of all time! She has such a fascinating psyche.
She's not my favorite _of all times_ but I *do* love her heaps!!>W< 🤎
Oh damn. I love this part of the season. The next episode is in my top three favourite Buffy episodes in the entire series. In fact, two of my top three are Season 4 episodes.
I love these next few episodes
I think it’s important to try and see the perspective of people who question whether or not Buffy is the hero, may even be the villain. If you can at least try and understand this perspective, you can handle more of the storylines later in seasons, particularly s6 and s7. We get to see all sides of Buffy as the audience but many people, including her closest friends, see someone who hides her insecurities and leads with her confidence she’s riteous. If you knew someone like her, you may question sometimes that she’s always right.
Is Willow wearing an Addams Family shirt at 12:11 or am I just seeing things?
Five by five 💙
Five by five! 😉
Is there any plans to switch to 2 episodes of Buffy a week? Cause 1 every 2/3 weeks will probably take like 2-3 years to finish the series
Yeah. He was doing 1/week but then started Angel and got on this schedule, seems like too long between eps to me. **shrug**
It bothers me when you call dreams flash backs lmao its a dream. Also Faith was obviously been watched by the police or FBI and the lady called the council... Some reactors pay no attention haha
I never understood the love for Faith. I personally never cared for characters who kill other people or who try to kill the heroes of the show...
Some people are just more intrigued by the complexities of antagonists because they make decisions the rest of us likely wouldn't, but at the same time, we can understand why they do what they do. Likeable villains generally make for more entertaining stories (which Buffy proves).
thank you! always constant in the comments, oh poor faith blah blah,she made her choice to be bitter. yeah she had a tough life, how that equates to " i'm totally fine with her killing people because she had issues and no other way out" BS lol
@@paulinerobertson6836 I've never seen anyone say that bs. It's obviously not as simple as "Faith bad, cuz she kill and killing is bad", that is dumb and boring. She is a complex character and people like to try and understand why she does/did the things she does/did. She had a crappy life, abusive mother, the implications of the things that happened, what we see on the show, it's interesting to analyse why she made the choices she did. How you think that equates to "oh la de da, killing is fine cuz she's got issues" is bs.
@NCC 1701 I've seen plenty of people say aw she wasn't in the right frame of mind, it's not her fault,it's all the scoobies fault.she had no choice, she's a complex character etc, Always defending her no matter what. Its never oh faith you screwed up and you should be in jail right now for everything youve done that's unforgiveable. More like aw man I just feel bad for her.
@@paulinerobertson6836 The reason you're seeing responses like that is because shows like Buffy encourage the audience to go deeper than "villain is bad because villain is bad" and invite us to explore what makes people do what they do, to empathise with their experiences, and find the humanity beneath the villainy. Good fiction gets us to consider perspectives we likely wouldn't in everyday life, and allows us to find kinship with characters that we might otherwise think we have nothing in common with.
*DAMN!!!* I haven't even begun to watch this video and I already can't wait for the next ep!!!The *BEST* Faith episode of"Buffy"AND the one with *THE* Faith Scene that stuck the most with me...the scene I think about as a 1st thing *_whenever_* I think of Faith!!!🤩🤎 00:09 - 00:12 *NO!!!!!>OO< I can't believe you give so many passes to Spike but 1 punch to _Joyce_ is all it takes for you to want *_Faith_* dead?!?!Friggin' FAITH???!!! #TeamFaith 🤎
07:05 - 07:06 She is.^w^ ❤ 07:46 - 07:53 You are. 💛🤎 11:01 - 11:05 🥺💔BTW I love how Buffy is still trying to reason with her instead of jumping to Fight/Capture Mode.💕
Yeah,I too was wondering what was up with that spell sabotage...suspicious...ò.O 13:47 - 13:53 No,you were not!No one was!🤭 15:36 - 15:38 "WHAT'S IN THE BOX???!!!>O
#TeamFaithalways
@@dawggirl I'm so disappointed that she wasn't in S3 opening.When I realized that I was so sad!!X-< 💔