*SHE'S TERRIFYING!* Buffy the Vampire Slayer S5 Ep 13 "Blood Ties" Reaction: FIRST TIME WATCHING
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SHE'S TERRIFYING! Buffy the Vampire Slayer S5 Ep 13 "Blood Ties" Reaction: FIRST TIME WATCHING
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Do we suspect that Ben and Glory have a connection?
I actually adore Dawn, but I remember she was so divisive in the fandom, as if a kid going through this kind of trauma without being perfect is somehow a problem. People were so hard on her. But I love this episode- “it’s summers’ blood, it’s just like mine” always chokes me up.
same!
completely agree, like shes 14 already with an inferiority complex(sister of slayer) & then she finds out shes not real?? she handled it like a champ tbh
i mean, she just showed up... it was annoying... i remember the common thought was "oh crap, I missed episodes?" bc we didnt have a way to find out lol there was barely an internet and people didnt ever think to post or look it up by default like we do now....
the 90's was the bill clinton presidency, when we had a national consensus around cutting welfare benefits and bombing foreign countries, and driving gay people out of the military was hailed as a huge improvement over the previous (unofficial) policy of simply murdering them. empathy was not at a high.
I think because the character was originally written as pre-teen she initially came across as immature and bratty. She does get better as the writers start to treat her more as a teenager.
A perfect episode to metaphor adoption and what adopted kids go through.
Yes! I don't think I noticed that as a core theme watching this episode the first time but it's so true!
Poor Ben, he had to leave before Glory came in. I hope he's okay.
Do we think... there's some connection between Ben and Glory?
Ben did refer to Glory as his sister.
@@jp3813 That's a good point. Now... more importantly... do we suspect that Ben and Glory may be some how... related?
@@mithroch Remember Sammy Jankis.
@@jp3813 nice cut.
I feel so bad for Dawn in this episode. I'm glad you like her. She gets so much hate from the fandom, but really, how else should she have reacted to learning she wasn't a real human girl? She handled it pretty well, all things considered.
I honestly don't know why people would hate on Dawn...
@@nickreacts6394 partly because she was an outsider to most who just wiggled into the scoobies' lives. And as an annoying teen character, some people found her grating. Not I though, I think she's an amazing addition to the story and show and the writers did an amazing job making us care for the character. Buffy cares and loves her so by this point in the season, we do too! My favorite season of the show for sure.
@@nickreacts6394I love Dawn. She is so realistic. I’m the oldest of four and my siblings are six, nine and twelve years younger than me I definitely know what annoying younger siblings are like lol. You have to have compassion for this poor girl!
@@nickreacts6394 Many fans even hated on Tara for a long while. Especially Oz fans.
@@nickreacts6394 Nerds have a real issue with kids.
SW fans prove it more than any, but it's a nerd issue full stop.
Glory materializing in the sky and then falling is so Looney Toons and every time I see it, I crack up laughing.
Its very interesting how you think there is some connection between ben and glory
Did you say there is a connection between Ben and.. Glory?! 😮
When Spike was William, the human, he was definitely an outsider, and he spent a lot of time watching the people around him - either watching a girl he was infatuated with or watching the guys that the girls liked in order to see how try to be like them. So he became a vampire who already had some knowledge of how people interacted and then built on it because a successful vampire can use human behavior to hunt better. Now, he has had almost 200 years of honing those skills, and his full attention is on the woman he loves and the people around her, so he's definitely going to have the insight to be able to help if she or they let him.
I believe Ben refers to Glory as his sister because they share a body, so how else would he refer to her in normal conversation? I think "hell goddess cursed into sharing a body with me" might cause more questions than anything else, you know?
I love that you respect and see the positive qualities of Dawn, people are so harsh on her, when she handled it better than many others in her position would.
Agreed & I think she is a wonderful actor, but do think nick & thor might be connected
She has Buffy blood in her veins.
She is immature, but she is brave and selfless like Buffy.
Now, do we suspect there's some kind of connection between Ben and Glory?
Wait hold the phone Nick, are you saying there might be some connection between Ben and Glory? 🤔
And again Spike is there when important information about Summers girls is revealed. Dawn found out she is the key. Before that Joyce learned that Buffy is a vampire slayer. I am surprised that he wasn't there when Buffy found out she is the slayer, lol. But who knows, maybe he was somewhere passing nearby.
Glory is so much fun!
I love Dawn and I always appreciate new watchers understanding her. So many people hate her bc she’s annoying. She’s a 14 year old little sibling OF COURSE she’s annoying 😂
I think this episode is proof Buffy shouldn’t have told the Scoobies. Or at the very least, she shouldn’t have told them before she told Dawn. All of them act so strange around her that it’s obvious something is off.
Nice reaction, Nick! Season 5 is my favorite, and it's because of episodes like this: powerful stories of family, friends, and complex relationships. BTW, what makes you think there is some sort of connection between Ben and Glory? It's an interesting theory, though...
3:38 glory saving her favorite minion is so awesome
Love some Dawn appreciation! One of the most unfairly hated characters on TV imo. The trauma that girl goes through, it's no wonder she is a little 'whiny' as people claim she is. Imagine being 14 and finding out all of your memories are fake, your family isn't your family, and a hell god is after you. The identity crisis alone would be horrifying. Great reaction! And I love that you caught that she's wearing green in this episode lol always find it fun when people see that.
Michelle knocks it out of the park in this one.
This is one of my favorite episodes. Michelle Trachtenberg does such an amazing job here as Dawn. Spike taking care of Dawn, making sure she doesn't go off alone at night, and them finding out together what is going on. Not sure how she slips him to get to the hospital, though. Then Dawn trying to get info out of Glory as to what the key is so she knows what she is, despite her fear, was brilliant. The reveal that Ben and Glory share the same body, yet they consider themselves siblings is interesting. The fact that Dawn can't remember they inhabit the same body is weird, isn't it? I think Spike comforting Buffy is showing a definite turn in his character and in Buffy's, because she is starting to show more trust in him. First with how he didn't buckle to Glory and give up Dawn and now how she saw that he actually took care of Dawn by going with her to the Magic Box even if she did find out bad information there and she got away from him. Wheels are turning in her brain now.
Also, Willow's magic has taken a significant leap here. I know Tara is helping her, but I think Tara is more someone Willow taps into to draw power from, as well as more of an anchor to keep her from getting lost in the magic. While I don't think this spell was more powerful than the one she did to resoul Angel, that was a one time case with set magic based in the power of the magical objects that used Willow as a focus. This is using Willow's power directly. Teleporting is a massive spell. Her power is growing significantly.
Sooooo, what your saying is you think there is some kind of connection between Ben and Glory?
Michelle's acting in this episode actually blows me away! 🥹🤯😭🙏
This whole episode gave me anxiety and the ending was so heartwarming. I always saw Buffy more like her mother though
Hell yess! My day needed a thor reacts episode
This was before the "It depends on your point of view" from ROTS.
So you think there may be a connection between Ben and Glory?
Really?
I want Glory's dress from this episode so bad. Makes your skin sing...
I watched Buffy when it first aired in the ‘90s…and I have ever stopped watching. I really enjoy your reactions, it’s like I get to discover Buffy all over again. Thank you.☺️
Buffy should have told Dawn before telling her friends. Wrong decision.
Lmfao @ the sith lord joke haha
10 Gold Stars For The Peeta Reference
This episode & the next 3, chefs kiss 😘
now do we think Ben and Glory are connected somehow?
Are you sure there's a connection between Glory & Ben???
Nick formerly Thor, thanks, as this an interesting episode.
The "reveal" was actually NOT overdue. Buffy has a mission. A mission to protect Dawn. The druids made Dawn from her, after all.
Gonna be interesting from here to the end of S5. (And then through S7.)
I loved this!!
I've been a Buffy fan since it originally aired, and I think I figured out why Dawn got so much (undeserved) hate. In a show where all of the other teenage characters are played by adults in their 20s or 30s, Dawn was played by an actress who was also 14/15, and acted like an actual 14/15 year old instead of a young adult. We were conditioned by 5 seasons of teenagers looking and acting like adults, so when Dawn showed up, she seemed super immature by comparison. I like Dawn so much more now while re-watching it and realizing why I was so biased before! She's just a kid trying her best, going through something impossible!
This was before the LOTR movies.
Super Duper fun thanks!
I can’t believe you didn’t like Dawn before the start of this season! She was always s great IMO. 😜. Great reaction though! 👍
I love how this shoe leaves things up to interpretation. I hope no one spoils!
To play devil's advocate for a second regarding Spike: isn't it possible that he just tagged along with Dawn because he has nothing better to do? Or that he "comforts" Buffy because he finds her worrying annoying? I'm not saying Spike doesn't have likable or redeeming qualities but I do think James Marsters charisma can cloud fan's judgement a bit, so I like to bring in a balanced perspective.
Posting my BUFFY REWATCH recap for ‘Blood Ties’. May contain spoilers.
For this episode recap of ‘Blood Ties’, we’re going back to the theme of withholding information that we had in Season 4 with Willow withholding her romantic/sexual relationship with Tara from Buffy and the Gang, and Buffy withholding information of Riley being an Initiative Commando from Giles. But this time the reason to withhold information is much more serious as this is about Dawn’s true nature as the Key. Therefore, it would be information that would put the Scoobies in danger if they knew about her being it. Buffy only tells Giles this information as soon she finds out for herself, and they decide together that it’s for the best that no one else knows, lest they be targeted by Glory - who is looking for the Key to open a portal to get back to her Hell dimension.
I wanted to address this withholding of information from the other Scoobies because “it’s too dangerous” to know it because it’s a common occurrence that Buffy uses the “it’s too dangerous” excuse when it comes to Willow and Xander. Knowing they’re willing volunteers in aiding her in the Slayage, she often worries about their safety when she’s really got a challenge on her hands. And I would say Glory is the biggest challenge she’s faced so far. As a Hell God, Glory is the strongest Big Bad Buffy has come across yet. She’s even stronger than Adam - so she probably thinks that the enjoining spell (where she, Willow, Xander and Giles combined their essences to defeat Adam when he was just too strong for Buffy to take on alone in the Season 4 climax) wouldn’t be helpful this time. So she and Giles figured that keeping them out-of-the-loop on the Key was the best thing to do to both keep Willow/Xander/Scooby Gang safe and protect Dawn.
But see... the thing is, is they’re not going to take ‘no’ for an answer. Willow and Xander specifically (and Giles, to some degree, with officially being her assigned, and recently reinstated, Watcher) will always risk their lives not just because they’re the Slayer’s best friends - (and Watcher/Father figure) - but also because they’ve chosen their fate a long time ago. They were aware of the dangers and the risks and the consequences from pretty much the start of Buffy’s Slayer journey, and they chose to be willing participants in helping Buffy anyway. So now it doesn’t matter whether Buffy is around to fight evil as they’re going to be doing it anyway... because they’ve CHOSEN to do it. And that’s a very important word in the context of this subject because Buffy had no choice.
I bring up Willow’s conversation with Buffy in the episode ‘Choices’ in telling her where she’ll be going to college after graduating from Sunnydale High School:
Buffy: “I'm never getting out of here. I kept thinking if I stopped the Mayor or... but I was kidding myself. I mean, there is always going to be something. I'm a Sunnydale girl,... no other choice.”
Willow: “Must be tough. I mean, here I am... I can do anything I want. I can go to any college in the country. Four or five in Europe if I want.”
Buffy: “Please tell me you're going somewhere with this?”
Willow: “No.
*Hands Buffy a letter*
I'm not going anywhere.”
Buffy:
*Reads the letter*
“UC Sunnydale?”
Willow: “I will be matriculating with Class of 2003.”
Buffy: “Are you serious?”
Willow: “Say,... isn't that where you're going?”
*Buffy hugs her and they tumble onto the ground*
Buffy: “I can't believe it! Are you serious?! Ah, wait, what am I saying? You can't.”
Willow: “What do you mean, ‘I can't?’”
Buffy: “I won't let you.”
Willow: “Of the two people here, which is the boss of me?”
Buffy: “There are better schools.”
Willow: “Sunnydale's not bad. And I can design my own curriculum.”
Buffy: “Okay, well, there are safer schools. There are safer prisons. I can't let you stay because of me.”
Willow: "Actually, this isn't about you. Although I'm fond, don't get me wrong, of you. The other night, you know, being captured and all, facing off with Faith. Things just, kind of, got clear. I mean, you've been fighting evil here for three years, and I've helped some, and now we're supposed to decide what we want to do with our lives. And I just realized that that's what I want to do. Fight evil, help people. I mean, I think it's worth doing. And I don't think you do it because you have to. It's a good fight, Buffy, and I want in.”
Buffy: “I kind of love you.”
Willow: “And, besides, I have a shot at being a bad ass Wiccan, and what better place to learn?”
It’s not about Buffy. It’s about fighting the good fight. Fighting against evil. Big Bad evil, the likes of Glory, especially. Maybe it makes some sense to play the whole “it’s too dangerous” card with Xander since he doesn’t have any physical/practical and/or mystical/magical powers... but it doesn’t make sense to play it with Willow. Willow now knows who she is and what she wants. Even if she doesn’t always believe in herself, she’s at least self-aware enough to know what it is that makes her tick. She wants to feel the heroicness of Buffy in helping the innocent for herself. Willow wants the power... and now she’s got the power... there is no reason why she shouldn’t be allowed to know information that would put her in danger or make her a target when she clearly shows, and does later prove when Glory targets Tara, that she’s the only one strong and powerful enough to hurt her and protect everyone, including Dawn, from Glory.
“The Slayer thing really isn't about the violence. It's about the power.”
It ultimately comes down to Buffy thinking she’s burdening her friends with having to take on the responsibility of Slayage. But she’s all wrong. Her friends - especially Willow - have CHOSEN this life. And it’s literally Giles’ job so... get a clue, Slayer. You’re better off when you have help. Your ties to the world do not weaken you. They make you stronger. There is always danger, there is always risk, there is always consequences. But someone’s CHOICE is all that matters. Just because YOU didn’t get a choice in the matter doesn’t mean you can “relieve” the Scoobies from theirs in the name of “it’s too dangerous" because it is also too dangerous for you to be without them too, Buffy.
Actually, I don't think the "it's too dangerous" was for the scoobies, it was for them being able to relay the info about Dawn to Glory. If they never knew, they couldn't tell her. And she WAS RIGHT when she told Giles they would treat Dawn differently and act weird around her. Their weirdness set her off even more than all the incredibly over-the-top eavesdropping of only certain things.
SPOILER:
The fact that they got angry at her just pissed me off. Sure they want in the fight when it suits them but the minute one of them gets hurt you just know they'll blame Buffy for it & make her feel guilty for getting them involved.
And we all know that Willow's power is steeped in darkness because of the Hellmouth and her reckless behavior, she didn't train from a young age properly (which I blame on Giles lack of guidance) so she doesn't respect wiccan ways & only goes for the quick fix, even without telling ppl who are involved ie: delusting spell w/Xander. Her high horse just keeps getting taller with her ego.
@@fanmagicks never interpreted it like that. That could be just as true, yes.
Buffy is hell god or a god in a hell dimension?
Hey nick I think you would enjoy that movie called bottoms. It’s funny
Spike just likes to be involved in stirring up shit but he's always been insightful. And I think he does have a begrudging respect for Buffy, he all but admits it with "it's what you hero types do".
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So you are saying that Ben is connected to Glory some way??? But how???
Wait... are you saying that there is some sort of connection between Ben and Glory??? It could be. I mean... Glory showed up when Dawn was talking to Ben... and then... huh? Ben must have left... I think?