Taking A $150 Speaker Kit To The Next Level- Let's Build The C-Note Speaker Kit!

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  • Опубликовано: 28 дек 2024

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  • @PAC-fp9hy
    @PAC-fp9hy Год назад +30

    I have done a lot of veneering for both furniture, cabinet work and hifi speakers, including a reproduction mid-century console stereo. If you want to be quick, by all means use contact glue, but be very careful with your choice of veneer. A veneer like Walnut appears to be flat, but will ripple when applied. You can see this in the video. The same goes for Oak and other hardwood varieties. These veneers do not finish well with contact glue because there is no compression involved on the grain and contact glue never sets, it remains tacky throughout its life. It is meant for countertops that have a hard phenolic veneer, that lies perfectly flat. Also, with some wood fillers it will react and cause swelling, particularly if you have screwed the panels anywhere. There is no substitute for cold press veneering using standard wood glue. You just need a fast setting wood glue, a few clamps and some old board to flatten the veneer. Make sure that both the veneer and the MDF have a layer of glue. Two coats of glue on the veneer is optimum. You can do opposite sides to save time. The finish is perfectly flat with no 'float' or softness to it. If you can afford it, buy a trim router with a flush bit - this takes off the excess veneer perfectly. Whiteside also have a bit with a very small head that allows you to trim the cutouts to the depth of the speaker plate.

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад +1

      Thanks for the tips! I do have a trim router and will definitely be using it in the future. Thanks for watching!

    • @danielh12345
      @danielh12345 Год назад

      Can I ask what your opinion is on the iron on veneer method? Do the same pitfalls apply there or should the results in general be similar to cold press veneering? I've previously done the ironing method where I apply glue with a roller to both surface and veneer let it dry, then roll the surface to be veneered again and let dry until tacky. Then use a iron and apply pressure, right after that I use a veneer roller while its still hot and roll until flat and cool. Working from inside out and with the grain. On the oak i had some very minor splitting which after sanding and finishing was not visible. On the ovangkol (the first veneering I did) I did not have this issue. My theory was the the veneer was just not very well cut but maybe my method was just sub par? I would appreciate you sharing your opinion and experience of your craft :)

    • @BogdanWeiss
      @BogdanWeiss 11 месяцев назад

      Looks like a beginner "first DIY adventure " - not saying there's anything wrong with that, but " I was going to ask whether "Next Level " is coming in episode 2 ??? And the wave-guide is seriously NOT flush with the enclosure - 100% creating a response ripple. Since when is basic construction considered "Next Level " am I missing something ??

  • @lights80088
    @lights80088 Год назад +3

    Great job young man, coming from an old man. Nice to see you exercising your passion.

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад

      I appreciate that!

  • @mrboat580
    @mrboat580 Месяц назад +1

    Nice job and detailed explanation. I built the C-notes as well and finished in cherry veneer. For more porous veneers I like to pore fill with Timbermate, or epoxy/cabosil. I used French polish on cherry and it is perhaps my favorite gloss finish of all. Poly is fine but it attracts dust and other contaminants. I use poly if I am going to burnish it to satin with 0000 steel wool but for gloss, I almost always choose lacquer.
    C-notes are not my favorite bookshelf design. These were kind of the final straw as to why I don't build or buy speakers under say, 6.5". Two exceptions being the Speedsters, and Jeff Bagby's Continuums. The latter were designed to be used with subs so they are very effective above 60hz or so and have some of the sweetest mid-range. Once we start trying to crowd in sub bass on these little drivers, SPL capabilities become severely limited. I choose speakers that can play to 90db easily, even if I only listen at 70db or so.

  • @geographyinaction7814
    @geographyinaction7814 Месяц назад +1

    I think you did a great job. Personally, I would use a matte finish, but that's me.

  • @veroman007
    @veroman007 Год назад +9

    I would recommend lining the inside of those cabinets with some sort of damping material. You really don’t want to have bare wood in an enclosure. Beautiful finish however

    • @matthewtaylor7355
      @matthewtaylor7355 Год назад

      Do all speakers need to b damped

    • @ngl750k
      @ngl750k Год назад

      do i also need damping material in a sealed sub box?

    • @C-man553
      @C-man553 10 месяцев назад

      @@ngl750kNo

  • @deathandtexas2016
    @deathandtexas2016 8 месяцев назад +1

    Nice build! I found that I had to shim the tweeter out for it to be perfectly flush with the front baffle (something my OCD demanded). I used slightly compressible felt tape to achieve this.

  • @cnnlive10
    @cnnlive10 Год назад

    I already own a pair and have been very impressed from the first day I had them set up. After watching this, I plan on tearing mine apart and putting some money into the veneer, setting up an external crossover with "Hi End" audiophile type componets, using some damping material on the bass driver and cabinet walls and maybe a few internal bracing pieces. Great video and thanks for posting!

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад

      Yes they're worth a little investment into the finish. They really are great for the money. Thanks for watching!!

  • @DIYAudioGuy
    @DIYAudioGuy Год назад

    Exellent work!

  • @toecutterjenkins
    @toecutterjenkins Год назад +5

    Some finish tips. In the raw veneer, use a damp sponge to pop the grain llet dry and sand. Then thin the poly and use a rag to put super thin coats and lightly sand between. You can get a glass like finish
    I have put together gr research kits, and they sound amazing for the price of these diy speakers.

  • @rakitakhan
    @rakitakhan 7 месяцев назад

    Nice build. I'm glad you know how to solder. So many "experts" online just melt the solder on the joint without heating the work itself. Damn fine job !

  • @ole9421
    @ole9421 Год назад

    Building all the kits? Awesome, I'll be here for the ride. Looking forward to the floor standers.

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад

      Yep that's the plan. They're all sold out right now, so I'm having to improvise.

  • @jordandominy7295
    @jordandominy7295 Год назад +5

    I’m currently building a set of these, too! I’m almost finished. I’m using walnut veneer and painting the fronts white. (I was also planning a video on my build 😂)

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад +1

      Nice!! They sound great given the price point. Good luck!

  • @hervedelplanque2841
    @hervedelplanque2841 Год назад

    Nice job ! I built the Classic II with my son and I was blown away by the sound.

  • @johannjohann6523
    @johannjohann6523 10 месяцев назад +1

    I liked that the drivers were made in Taiwan not China. I definitely prefer Taiwan made goods over Chinese, especially in electronics and audio. So two thumbs up Dayton Audio!

  • @PeterMumford
    @PeterMumford Год назад

    Very inspiring! I liked that you built it out of the box, with no mods, and I liked your demonstration of veneering the cabinets. I would have liked to see how the veneer wrapped around the radiused corners on the front. In any case, nicely done.

  • @BellyUpFishGarage
    @BellyUpFishGarage Месяц назад

    Would these be overkill for a set of garage speakers?

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Месяц назад +1

      It really depends on your budget. You could definitely do more affordable for a garage setup. But these are still well worth their price.

    • @BellyUpFishGarage
      @BellyUpFishGarage Месяц назад

      @@DIYhyfy Thanks.

  • @llee4225
    @llee4225 Год назад +1

    It would be great to get a video on the 3 way speakers that you have. It was looking for a fuller range speaker!

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад +1

      Unfortunately I didn't film that build, but I can definitely do some measurements and a walk around!

  • @davidsecord6412
    @davidsecord6412 Год назад +1

    I've built these. My mods include: 1. I routed the inside of the face board to take the woofer from the back. 2. I replaced the elements of the crossover with military-spec, including conductive plastic potentiometer for a treble control I added on the back and capacitors and resistors. Air core inductors came with the kit and I used them. 3. No nails in MDF. I just used glue with corner clamps. 4. Finish is red oak veneer from our friends at Rockler. 5. I used a cup with four-way post connectors to take the wires from the amp on the back. 6. Used wood sealant on the MDF so that it is easier for a good bond for the contact adhesive to adhere the wood veneer. As I love the look of natural wood, I finished over the red oak with seven coats of Varathane. I recommend trimming the veneer with a veneer bit on your router. Using a tacky cloth to take off really fine saw dust can really make the difference in your finish. I like to apply the polyurethane with a disposable foam brush. I built covers using the supplies from Parts Express. My only complaint is that the woofer is not mounted in a routed mount as their intention is to have it overlay the tweeter flange. I think that my build looks better and comes closer to having the focus of the voice coils for the woofer and tweeter line up. I also recommend using the foam seals Parts Express sells to make sure that the drivers are airtight to the face. If you look at the finish in this video, you'll see imperfections, due to the lack of 800 grit sanding in between coats. The more coats you do (sanding and using a tacky cloth in between coats when dry) the nicer the finish is. Spraying it on is really the best way if you have a ventilated area. Pax.

  • @markwhite9459
    @markwhite9459 Год назад +1

    Looks good ! Did you not use any dampening material ?

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад

      I did not, but may in the future

    • @Walkercolt1
      @Walkercolt1 Год назад

      I have these and I used a 1" convoluted mattress topper from Big Lots (dirt cheap!) for lining. I think it clears up the midrange some, but without it, in a "soft room" (like living rooms or such), you shouldn't hear much difference. Half-inch foam carpet pad from a big-box store (the cheap stuff is usually softer) will work fine too. I don't think I'd want to use typical 2" convoluted speaker foam-it would cut the EFFECTIVE enclosure volume too much and hurt bass. BTW, you just need lining on the vertical sides and back at most.

  • @stuartkennedy4202
    @stuartkennedy4202 Год назад

    You done these so effortlessly and what a saving. I know they sound excellent from previous reviews. Great job.

  • @surley6334
    @surley6334 3 месяца назад

    OK, nice job putting these together. My interest is in perhaps upgrading the drivers, using Dayton RS or SIG series. My thinking being better drivers, better sound, maybe. I am also trying to get around building the enclosure, as I no longer have the tools needed for a scratch build. Also, I am having a difficult time finding any documented builds using these drivers that might verify improved sound. I'm in right field with this thinking, such thinking has worked well for me in the past. Any thoughts appreciated. Billy

  • @johnbarker8504
    @johnbarker8504 Год назад +2

    I'm sure someone else has said this already, but - Acoustic foam (egg-carton-style stuff) to line the cabinet and then some loosely-stuffed wadding will help damp internal reflections. Don't let the wadding obstruct the back of the woofer or the reflex tube.

  • @mikeeygauthier2959
    @mikeeygauthier2959 Год назад +1

    Would be interesting to listen to the speakers without any veneer finish! Great video, thank you.

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад

      Good idea, I'll include that in the next project!

    • @mikeeygauthier2959
      @mikeeygauthier2959 Год назад +1

      @@DIYhyfy I only mention this because I have a pair of Focal Alpha 65 (older ones), and remove the plastic sides and scraped off the stuckon rubber pad. Gave a more open and detailed Sound. Recently upgraded the fuses to Synergistic orange (used) and again much better Sound.

  • @fonkenful
    @fonkenful Год назад +1

    Ever experimented with iron on yellow glue method for veneering? Definitely not as quick as contact cement, but allows for easy adjustment and alignment of grain figuring. And for finishing of finer veneers like walnut or Sapele mahogany, aerosol spray bombs of lacquer can look luscious.

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад

      I have a little bit. I will likely use it in future builds

  • @perlman7376
    @perlman7376 Год назад

    Thank you. Looking forward to the next video.What stands are those?

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад

      These are the cheap dayton 20" I believe

  • @chinmeysway
    @chinmeysway Год назад

    Oh what are those other 3-way type speakers? Looks like another build of yore but didn’t see a vid on it..
    thanks :-)

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад

      Stick around! Those are the Swans from Hivi. I've got a video on them coming this week.

  • @crztrn1
    @crztrn1 Год назад

    nice job on video. I bought the same speakers and yet to put them together

  • @JR-ho5qm
    @JR-ho5qm Год назад +2

    Just found your channel. 👍🏻 have you seen the GR Reserch Brutes? I think that would be a fantastic build for you,and could draw allot of attention to your channel 👍🏻🔈

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад +2

      Yes I love their videos. I definitely have looked over their kits. They look great, but are a bit pricey for the time being. Hopefully in the future!

  • @Mike-vr4lw
    @Mike-vr4lw Год назад

    Very cool . Looks like fun. 👍

  • @02honeydew
    @02honeydew Год назад +1

    Ive read that they cut the relief for the tweeter like 1/16th too deep, causing the tweeter to sit slightly too deep behind the woofer and the face of the speaker. I guess people use a tiny shim to bring it back to the surface. Maybe you could try it out and see if it makes any difference

    • @davidsecord6412
      @davidsecord6412 Год назад

      The depth is intended to allow the foam adhesive edge seal to make an airtight and non-rattling connection between the flange of the tweeter and the face board.

    • @02honeydew
      @02honeydew Год назад

      @@davidsecord6412 Oh, I see. Whatever post I read about it, they said they found the sound to improve, but I'm unsure how exactly they said that was, and I can't remember anything else. I just thought it was odd in one of the angled shots in this video, you can see the bare mdf very slightly around the tweeter which I thought was odd. But if they meant it that way, where the tweeter is actually supposed to be that far back, then that's cool too. I just thought it was odd that it sat back so far.

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад +2

      Yea I used gasket, as it was audible without

    • @johnbarker8504
      @johnbarker8504 Год назад +1

      The tweeter should be flush, so yes - some kind of gasket to bring it forward just a tad.

    • @BostonMike68
      @BostonMike68 Год назад

      ​@DIYhyfy every one are experts they watch a couple of gr research videos and they are armchair s engineers. I stopped posting my speaker designs on diy groups because people get so negative and most people never actually have ever tried to build anything. I am actually sitting in front of an mtm with 2 6.5 designers in a solid wood cabinet on top of mdf it's heavy but I like mass loaded cabinets . They are nice heavy mid woofers for the money

  • @dippitydoinit
    @dippitydoinit Год назад

    Nice video. I see you have some raw MDF showing around the tweeters. I recommend spray painting Black around any recessed speakers before applying veneer. Since yours are complete I would use a black marker or add an additional layer of speaker gasket tape to bring the tweeter forward more.

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад +1

      Nice tip! These were sent to a friend of mine. I removed drivers and painted recess after filming. I was too anxious to get it filmed, that I rushed and forgot!

  • @michaelsegel8758
    @michaelsegel8758 11 месяцев назад

    I like the idea of your plan on building all of the speakers.
    Have to ask... did you consider adding some dampening material in the cabinet?

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  11 месяцев назад

      Yes, these were for a friend. I filled them in prior to shipping them out. Unfortunately didn't have it on hand for the video.

  • @AntonioGarcia-xk6jd
    @AntonioGarcia-xk6jd 9 месяцев назад

    can you list all the tools i would need to build these speakers...... i love your video's
    😊😊😊😊

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  9 месяцев назад

      Going to do my best:
      Wood glue
      Clamps (ideally 4+)
      Soldering Iron
      Sand paper
      Screw drivers
      Drill Bit (terminal holes)

  • @hi-fihaven2257
    @hi-fihaven2257 Год назад

    EXCELLENT video Man! 😎

  • @iyona14granturismogt6gtspo7
    @iyona14granturismogt6gtspo7 Год назад

    Arm chair Quarterback here,uh...if you put both speakers together, you could have an extended surface to run sander back and forth without fear of rounding edge.

  • @Silent-Lucidity
    @Silent-Lucidity 8 месяцев назад

    Nice job!

  • @MrBeblis
    @MrBeblis Год назад +1

    You should have substituted better resistors and tube connectors in the place of those binding posts.
    Rest of the components are nice, also maybe more bracing and insulation.

    • @BostonMike68
      @BostonMike68 Год назад +3

      OK Danny those tube connectors cost more than that whole kit

  • @crossoverchef
    @crossoverchef Год назад

    put a gasket under the tweeter to bring it up a bit and make it flush.

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад

      Good idea

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад

      Also: grandma called and said stop eating all our steak, and ruining everybody's lives!

    • @Walkercolt1
      @Walkercolt1 Год назад

      If you don't have a fancy speaker gasket,several layers of painter's tape will do fine. Big name/big price speaker builders use tape for gaskets!

  • @bpalpha
    @bpalpha Год назад

    Nice work dude. Handsome speaker. C-Notes are a great entry level speaker, especially with prices going haywire these days. Better still, you can customize this speaker towards your own sense of aesthetics.

  • @look8234
    @look8234 Год назад

    Great job!

  • @BS513
    @BS513 Год назад

    Nice vid. Would like to see your build of hivi 3.1

  • @arturomty9969
    @arturomty9969 Год назад

    Great work! Although I generally prefer a flat finish, I must admit that they look fantastic. I've liked and subscribed!

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад +1

      Yes I'll be using different lacquers coming up. Flat, satin etc. Thanks for watching!!

  • @daviddavila249
    @daviddavila249 Год назад

    such an awesome video!

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад

      Thanks for watching!

  • @dannyblaha9344
    @dannyblaha9344 Год назад

    looks good i like to see how swans from amazon build and sound

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад

      Hit subscribe! I've got a video on the Swans coming early next week! Thanks for watching!

  • @robertjdejong
    @robertjdejong 11 месяцев назад

    9:20 we “don’t want to round the edges”
    9:29 Proceeds sanding the edge on a 45 degree angle 😆

  • @PATRICEBAUDER
    @PATRICEBAUDER Год назад

    bonjour, vidéo de très belle qualité pour l'image et le son.......... belle fabrication des boites, sauf le placage, il aurait peut-être fallu mieux soigner la découpe du placage dans les angles......... et surtout pas de vernis polyuréthane, juste teinter et cirer...............

  • @chinmeysway
    @chinmeysway Год назад

    Nice. Wish it came in bamboo so that at least one major component could be sustainable

    • @BostonMike68
      @BostonMike68 Год назад +1

      Make your own cabinets out of bamboo

  • @impuls60
    @impuls60 Год назад

    The tweeter really should be flush with the baffle to not make any early reflection points.

    • @ThresholdZhor
      @ThresholdZhor Год назад

      I pointed that also, those difractions lower the coherency and thereby the image

  • @justinmanny86
    @justinmanny86 10 месяцев назад

    Has anyone compared the c-notes to the c-sharp, overnight sensation, and sambas? I've only build an 18" gsg marty so Im brand new to the DIY bookshelf speakers. I'm looking to build a pair but I'm not sure which generally sound the best. Im going for more clarity than bass since I'm already in way overkill with bass. Id love to hear everyone's opinions!

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  10 месяцев назад +1

      If you're after detail, I highly recommend the Hivi Swans 3way. They're a bit more pricey (around or under $300). The c-sharp are just an actively powered c-note to my knowledge. The Overnight Sensations are a go to for many. Lots of good options. These c-notes sounded great for $100.

  • @marksweeney7327
    @marksweeney7327 Год назад

    $150 speakers never looked so good!

  • @sabresys45
    @sabresys45 Год назад

    You can VASTLY improve the polyurethane finish if you would employ better application technique, the easiest way would be to learn to apply by wiping on by thinning the poly and sanding and steel wool between coats. You'd be much happier with the results.

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад

      Interesting, thanks for the tips. I've always thought wipe on poly looked easier! I'll definitely give it a shot going forward.

    • @sabresys45
      @sabresys45 Год назад +1

      ​@@DIYhyfydon't bother with the wipe on poly, it's just regular poly thinned with mineral spirits, buy regular poly and thin it yourself, it's cheaper and you can control the thickness to suit your situation. Several thin coats with sanding or ateel wool between will give a nice result.

    • @CapraHiFi
      @CapraHiFi Год назад

      ​@@sabresys45can you do the same with water based poly by adding more water? I'm also interested in this wipe on technique.

  • @ThresholdZhor
    @ThresholdZhor Год назад

    I made my first speaker at the age of 16, in those days these kits don't even exist, personally I don't like the gloss coat you put on the veneer, I prefer semi matte, the woofer is over the tweeter edges and is a bit inside, is better to separate the woofer 1 inch to avoid diffractions, the tweeter polarity should be inversed because capacitor retards the phase 180 degrees, besides everything good job

  • @kkrobertson1
    @kkrobertson1 11 месяцев назад

    Great build but don't like the poly finish. Should be lightly sprayed on and polished not brushed.

  • @frankd.b.9233
    @frankd.b.9233 6 месяцев назад

    Too bad you didn't round [ bevelled ] the inside of the speaker seat
    And an iron works great when installing veneers

  • @surround1969
    @surround1969 9 месяцев назад

    this veneer will look much more awesome if matt paint ... not glossy

  • @vicg5323
    @vicg5323 10 месяцев назад

    What’s the next level?

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  10 месяцев назад

      Rocket boosters, coming soon!

  • @peterlyk
    @peterlyk Год назад

    You dont have any damping ind them

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад

      That's true. I would always recommend using it.

  • @cillyede
    @cillyede Год назад

    👍👍👍🇩🇪

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад

      Thanks for watching!!

  • @matthewtaylor7355
    @matthewtaylor7355 Год назад

    Those caps r basic.. Mundorf betta than those bennecs

  • @C-man553
    @C-man553 10 месяцев назад

    90% appearance talk, 3% babble, 2% … describing performance. Driver model numbers, xover quality, nothing.
    The finish really Pops-Sounds like a tv review.

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  10 месяцев назад

      Glad you enjoyed it!