Ep. 35 - How to get an amazing Piano Gloss Finish on the Hammer Home Theater Sub| Home Theater Gurus
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
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* warning* Auto paint is high VOC so wear a mask made to filter vapors. Harbor Freight has these pretty cheap. You should use a mask with any high VOC paint even canned spray paint. If you smell anything it's not good enough. Notice I wear one except when I sprayed the base coat. It was a low VOC water based paint which is not the norm. Always wear a mask even when mixing and cleaning the gun. When in a booth you need to wear a paint suit as well. I'm outside so I"m a little more laxed but again I'm not a professional.
Datyon Ulitmax 12” Subwoofer Driver
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Dual Action Polisher (can be used for all sanding and buffing)
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Sanding block
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3M Sanding Sponge
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Dura Gold sand paper (different grits selectable in link) 1000 and 2000 used in video.
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320 grit for 5” orbital sander
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Paint Ratio Mixing Cups
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Paint Strainer Funnels (select 25 after clicking)
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HVLP spray gun 1.4mm tip
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HVLP filter to keep moisture out
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Epoxy Primer and Catalyst used in video
Primer
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Catalyst
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Example of base coats *make sure to get the reducer if required*
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Clear coat
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85 degrees to Hot as Hell
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Compound cutting pads 6”
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6” Polishing Disc
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Compound
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Polish
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A lot of you guys have asked about the air compressor I used. Here it is! www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-QUIET-TECH-26-Gallon-Single-Stage-Portable-Electric-Vertical-Air-Compressor/1001014062?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-tol-_-ggl-_-LIA_TOL_153_Pneumatics-And-Compressors-_-1001014062-_-local-_-0-_-0&ds_rl=1286981&gclid=Cj0KCQiAt8WOBhDbARIsANQLp97Rn3hGlj5of632gOAH7Yn5-hc39jJAkZv8hv_EBslR27EjaZTBdmcaAtu0EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
How small 0f a compressor can you use. I was in the store looking at the little 2 or 3 gallon ones but wasn't sure if they could work
@@shaunbouchersr9544 they usually have a visual graph next to the price that shows what they'll run. Anything that will run an air tool will have no issues with a spray gun as it's run at a much lower Psi.
@@hometheatergurus cool ive ordered everything just need to figure that out. ive watched the video back to front least 20 times im gonna follow it exactly.
@@shaunbouchersr9544 good luck!
@@hometheatergurus not really even with low psi need of a hvlp gun its volume of compressor that it needs. Look up what your gun needs as far as volume and psi also the smaller the tank less volume gpm or gph. The right clean and dry air will properly atomize the paint. I used to paint motorcycles for a living. Also with a smaller air tank i would use a lvlp gun designed for said smaller air compressor. Also for small jobs like this smaller guns, like touch up guns
Just a tip from a painter. Use a larger sanding block that covers the whole surface during all sanding phases including the primer and you will have a flatter surface for your piano gloss. And sand in between all coats of clear. That's how pro automotive painters get their smooth surfaces. Love the color...
@@PedroKing99 Yes, wet sand
Would you build homemade sanding block to do it or can you purchase one?
@@aaronm5535 You can buy them but it would be cheaper to make your own and work just as well
@@kotogray8335 why wet sand instead of dry sand?
@@mixsterdude Dry sanding clogs up the sandpaper too quickly and using water helps the sandpaper to stick to the surface helping to create a smoother finish
If your wet sanding use a little washing up soap in the water, really helps, breaks the water tension down 👍
I'll try it. Thanks!
My technique is to convince myself that orange peel looks nice 😂
😁I tried that for a while on my old towers then a after a few months decided to see just how good I could make them look.
I paint corrected 3 of my cars they looked awesome, back in the day 90's I had to take my new car back to the dealer , the paint was messing up, so they repainted the whole car and color sanded to. is the car in the pick. that thing looked like glass got a lot of complements, 25 years later I color sanded that same car myself it looked glass, lot of work took 2 days . All you people to be scared to buff your car out.
Yeah it makes vehicles look amazing. I got a new truck a few months ago and bought all the stuff to do paint correction and chickened out. That compound and buffing cream was actually bought for the truck. Maybe one day if it get scratched up i'll correct it. It's definitely a lot of work on a vehicle. I started off hand washing it and after 2x decided it wasn't happening anymore and now i use the auto wash close to work.
@@hometheatergurus Pros And Cons Pro Looks good when your done Con won't stay that way forever no matter how careful you baby that car. If you ever want to do it check out Junkman2000 . I still hand wash all my cars. the older i get the less i care how my car looks (57) my car gets me form point a to point b and back .
@@uwsome1 yep. And seriously it looks great using the auto wash. I've never been a hand washing kind of guy. It was my first new truck in 15 years, the honeymoon stage lasted 2 hand washes. 😂
A tip: When the compound looks dry, just add some water. The cutting material is still there. Saves you compound.
I'm trying to get an amazing speaker-gloss finish on my piano.
I like to duratex my Pianos.
🤣🤣🤣
Spray bottle for the water really helps. Mix in just a touch of soap makes it a lot easier to wet sand as well 👀
Thanks. Next time I'll Give it a try.
I have done automotive paint for over 12 years and I think you did a wonderful job thank you for the video my friend
Wow. Thanks. I'm definitely no pro so I know you guys are definitely better at it so it means a lot coming from guys that do it professionally.
Honestly, I think you did a marvelous job. Long ago I get my degree as a painter, and I love how people like you take the cow by the horn and go for it. If you have much orange peel I advise lower pressures and watch you viscosity of your paint. But anyhow, I love your video. You explained step by step, nicely, how you get the things done. I hope people are inspired by this video and go building themselves. Great job. If there are any misspelled words, I am sorry. I am Dutch and try to do the best I can. Sincerely, Bert de Vries. Hillegom, The Netherlands.
Viscosity is key. Learn to use a viscosity cup and as pressure and humidity change, you will always be spot on. I used to have a notebook with all the different paints I used and what viscosity they sprayed best at. Keep your first few coats thin, too thick and the atomized paint dents the previous coats (orange peel). Too thin, you get blush from where the solvents evaporate out and you get a dry matte look.
I agree, great job and pretty good explanation. Put enough clear on and you can sand anything back. Lacquer is the easiest to paint with, because it cuts into the previous paint, and just color sand and polish. Autos originally were brushed on lacquer and then sanded back and polished (I have done that ).
Spray edges first, then spray the panels, it leaves a higher build on the edges so you are less prone to sand or polish through. Autos originally were brushed on lacquer and then sanded back and polished (I have done that ). Most places frown on Lacquer now
@@garry7263 you are absolutely right. I love it when people now how to do the job. I love the people more when they want to learn the steps. I have noticed that people in corona time, trying to do more D.IY. stuff. They are not afraid to make a mistake. You learn from your mistakes, but never give up.
@garry7263... you nailed it with your answer. For everybody, build your stuff and new proud of the results..... eventough it's not perfect. Greetings from the Netherlands. Bert de Vries
When you wet sand don’t use just water. Add a few drops of dawn or just a standard dish soap to the water. The dish soap breaks the surface tension between the water and paint so when you sand your sandpaper will have a layer of water between itself and the paint. That is what you want when wet sanding. There’s a big difference between using dish soap and no dish soap.
Thanks, I'll try it out next time.
This is pretty close to how I paint my guitars, and I was wondering if I could do the same for a custom amp head and speaker cabinet I'm thinking of building with MDF. Yours turned out great!
When sanding I suggest you use 10% sugar soap solution to prevent excessive paper clogging and edge burn. Also use a microfibre cloth to more effectively remove slurry.
I think he mentioned people like you chiming in
@@Amor1990 he replied 2 years ago bro.... let it go,,,,
So awesome. I have two sets of towers that I built years ago. I love building homage speakers. I’ve never been able to put any kind of decent finish on them. I’m inspired to try this process on mine now.
Did you do it?
@@murrayshekelberg9754 I did. You have to beware for rounded surfaces. I kinda had those rounded edges and the paint didn't wanted stick it it for some reason. I should have sanded more. The rest was perfect after third layer of paint
When working with MDF I found the best primer in the whole wide world.... to be wood glue. Even the really rough edges it completely seals them, no pain will absorb at all.
I just got a HVLP and LVLP sprayer, I have no idea how well that would work to apply it, but its cheap, tough, and sand-able and paint-able.
How do you use wood glue as a primer?
This is the best home theater channel I've found on RUclips. I'm surprised it doesn't have way more views/subscribers.
Wow, thank you! It's growing pretty fast for a small channel. In December I barely 1k subs.
You did very well .My dad even said you did very well 4 not being a painter. And he's been painting hotrods and custom cars for over 40 years. Keep up the good work.If you need any unique custom colors let me know.
Awesome and thanks. Definitely a huge compliment as I'm definitely not a professional painter in any way.
@@hometheatergurus When you finish, make sure to give your car a quick buff too!
I have painted houses for decades and he's teaching me.
I need custom color!....
Awesome. Im going to try a pair of BMR speakers in Piano Black. Gives me great confidence seeing how you did this. Nothing crazy in the way of tools, and I have all the polish I think I'll need from the car. Thankyou very much.
Try turning the air pressure on the gun up more on the last coat of clear. It will help with the orange peel. Great job look really awesome.
Hey, great video, thanks for the upload. I'm building some speakers and would like to finish them in a similar fashion. A couple of things I missed: Do you sand the base coat between your 2 coats, or after your 2 coats, or not at all and go right to the clear? The other thing was, do you use the same cutting discs for the final polish (Super Finish 3500)? or is it something else? Thank again.
Well I followed all the instruction and my box smelled like fukn petroleum oil off gassing from the wax products for about a month inside my vehicle. And honestly the finish was no better than a well applied sanded and layered polyurethane.
😂.. Well yeah its gonna off gas , what did u expect. 😁 and I can't help you with the skilz part. If you're using auto paints and it doesn't look like auto paint with a glass finish when ur done... 🤷♂️. I'm 2 projects for 2. But you tried and that's what's important.
Love that paint work on the box. I have that Dayton Ultimax 12". I built similar to that size but used 3"1/2" OD ports. Made two ports and they are 32" long box it tune to 22 hrz. Awesome with movies.
Your doing great ! There are many ways to create a mirror finish on wood. I like you used a harbour freight touch up low flow spray gun. I bought the more expensive version because it has a stainless needle for water based paint. It looks beautiful but i just like a wood finish semi gloss because a shiny finish looks a little plastic to me but it is great for a piano. Enjoyed your hard work!
Great video btw. But i agree at 19:00, if sanded by hand, clear coat should be sanded with 600 grit sandpaper, it would be a lot faster.
You have 48 hours to spray your base and you dont need to sand. The epoxy chemically bonds to the base coat,meaning it dosent need a mechanical bond(sanding).... that epoxy sprays nice and thin if you reduce it 1:1:1 and use it as a sealer wait an hour or two to let it dry then hit it with base/clear. and you won't be able to tell the difference. i grew up about 200 yards from summit. good job , just a time saver .
Thanks Brandon, I'm definitely no pro so I take any advice I can get. I'll do that on the next one. Thanks!
My one critique from the beginning is you're "fanning" while painting. This is going to cause more buildup of paint in the center of panels and thin edges. And before anyone jumps on that, YES... skilled painters will often fan while spraying large panels but they do it AFTER painting all the edges and corners since. Always start with the edges and corners, then fill in the large areas. This is very important when spraying clear since the edges will have had just enough time to flash off enough that you wont get a run when hitting the main panel.
ALso, when cleaning your gun, remove the needle FIRST. If you don't you'll bugger the end of it when removing the nozzle.
Thanks for the advice!
This is the first of your videos I've seen but it definitely won't be the last.
Fantastic work on the sub and video production complete with product shots as you go.
Thank you so much. I still feel like they aren't good enough but I'm glad some like them and find value in the content.
This is amazing. I eventually want to give this kind of finish a go. Fingerprint magnet but so so pretty.
I myself just finished a box for an Ultimax 10. Baltic birch plywood stained with dark walnut oil stain. Finished with 3 coats of water based gloss.
It's about 3.5 cubic feet tuned to 19Hz with 3 10" Dayton Passive radiators.
I've yet to order the passive radiators but hope to get around to that in a week or so.
Thanks. The um10 is a really good performer and even works well in a box as small as a cube (net) tuned down to 20hz. Good choice!
It's best to wet sand the first clear coat with 1200 and some 0000 steel wool to get rid of the orange peel. Then clean it thinner and then spray clear coat again. Let the first clear dry for one day, at least . If heated, you can sand after an hour or two. Gotta warn you about auto clear coat though, they are nasty . Many people have died from it . You need a booth to spray them.
Hi I missed what is the liquid to sand/polish the surfaces? Regards for ARg
This came out looking amazing. Me talking to an SVS sales rep after seeing this video..."BYE FELICIA!" 😂😂
One question...Is there an 18" version of this cabinet? Would love have 2 of these for 18's!
Haha.. SVS subs have chuffing issues anyways when you push them as the port velocity it high. You can get a lot more performance for the money. Check out GSG audio. I have links to them in some of my videos. I currently run their Devestator kits and soon to be running their bts subs.
Astonishing! Like you said…it looks like you could dive right into the surface. Not sure I could cope with all that spray gun business….but the technique for getting that flat surface with wet & dry paper could probably make good even with a (carefully applied) rattle can finish.
Thank you.👍
Thanks. I've been thinking I need to do a small project with rattle cans. You can buy auto clear coat in a rattle can.
somebody did their homework. practice makes perfect. nice work.
Nice job. I was taught in my apprenticeship to rub a bar of soap on the wet and dry sandpaper while using it with water. It helps the sandpaper from clogging with the paint. Also helps with the finish.
Thanks for the tip. I'll definitely try it next time.
Adding a few drops of liquid soap in the water has the same effect.
Oh wow, congrats on teaming up with GSG, that's dope AF!
It's pretty awesome that they've offered to do this for us.
great job but just a tip to help out. Soak your sand paper for 20-30 mins prior in and bucket of water with a few drops of dish liquid in it. Personally I use a spray bottle to wet down the surface.
Great job..I have to re finish a black gloss piano.I see you used epoxy black primer.What top coat system did you use..is the base coat a 2 pack (with hardener) and also is the clear coat 2 pack (with hardener.
Thanks.. It's been a few years but all links are in the description and the video shows the products used and shows me mixing them and the ratios.
I would really recommend 3M compounds, they work really well
I actually used 3m the first time I did a base coat /clear on speakers.
Well it looks good. But u can sand it with 3000,5000,8000 and then use one step .I know I've been painting cars for 25 year .
Thanks. On the next one I'll play around with higher grits before moving on to compounds.
how and when do you primer/paint the bottom panel?
Dude, can't believe you did all that final sanding by hand! That takes a while with that fine of paper... End result looks great man. You did a great job going over everything. I used to paint cars in my dads shop back in high school and shortly after. Lots of work to get a good finish. You are correct though, no painter can completely get rid of orange peel. You get lucky sometimes, but not normally lol. If you do this again, besides getting a DA sander for the clear coat sanding, grab yourself a "california squeegee." That will complete remove all the water off the surface quickly to where you can see the cloudy/shiny areas in the clear coat. No more rags at that step. Once we started using those, it was a game changer! Again, looks awesome. Better than my swopes I painted several years ago! I didn't do the sanding/polishing step on mine, sort of a rush job. May redo them one day... 🤔
I only did the initial wet sanding by hand but yeah as I said in the video next time I'll get some paper for my sander for that step. Even still it only took maybe an hour to do that step but i did arms that day and the felt like noodles after sanding.. :) As for the squeegee, that's a great idea. I'll definitely do that!
Ohh and yeah that orange peel was bad..LOL. If I didn't know about the wet sanding I would have given up. It was great for the video though. The first time I did this last year had just a little. Thank goodness for sanding, compound and buffing. Bring on the orange peel!!
Excellent video. I am borderline ready to buy some new floor standers, but my 1997 Celestion Impact 40s are great, just shabby looking. Thinking about wrapping them or painting them to make them look gloss black. PS, you remind m of Bob Ross with the way you talk and describe your work, very cool.
Thanks for the tips. I'm in the process of painting my boxes and the clear and wet sanding you went over was very helpful, as I am getting ready to wet sand myself.
Curious, how did it turn out?
I was laying down some clear coat outside on a project of mine, and a hornet was bugging me .
I doused him with clear coat and he fell out of sight somewhere.
A couple minutes later he stung me on my little toe.
Ha.. I hate those little bastards! He's probably bragging about that to his hornet buddies right now still wearing his clear coat.
Statistical data suggests typical subwoofer distortion to be 50% down to 30% and slightly lower on very high performance models, yet audio enthusiasts will groan and moan about an amplifier yielding just less than 1% total distortion. Try to remember the listening room and the speakers are always the source of the greatest amount of distortion. Nice finish on that sub. I need that paint job on my car.👍
Thanks and trust me I wouldn't want to mess up your car so don't let me do it .. 😁
Ive been painting 4 23 yrs. For a paycheck. I dont mind anything you've done, except help to destroy the environment. Use your spray booth (you wont). Dont encourage others to do the same. Add thinner to the clear coat. Less sanding. Careful of running.
As many spray cans with aresol propellants that people spray a compressor fed hvlp is probably safer. Not everyone can afford a real booth that collects the over spray and to paint in a homemade booth where you're in a cloud is extremely bad for the person painting and requires a full suit of ppe.
@@hometheatergurus Add thinner to the clear coat. Trust. It will save you time.
Looks beautiful amazing job next time use a spray bottle when you wet sand I work in a cabinet shop in the finishing dept I am not a pro but learning from the pros in high gloss they usually add close to 7 or 8 coats of of clear of course sanding in between you will end up with less and less orange peel it will be almost not existent but awesome job regardless.
Thanks I may give that a try. In this one I actually wanted to have orange peel just to show that you don't have to spray it perfectly as it can be fixed.
Great video ! Really better than most of the cars shows I’ve seen on painting, depth wise.
I’ve always wanted to do this. You’ve shown me I can do it.
Thanks
Thanks Steve! And yep I have no doubt you can do it. The worst that happens is you screw up and get to try again.
I just got to thank you for sharing your knowledge! You do an amazing job. I've always wanted to make my own sub, now I will do! Lifetime subscriber from Norway :)
Awesome! Thank you!
Piano coat on subs and speakers for the living room is cool, but I would NOT place such a reflective box in the Home Theater for obvious reasons aka reflecting the light from the proj and the screen.
Call Me silly, But gosh does it feel good hearing a Midwest Boy. Great video, and nice work.
Love it. Amazon and Harbor freight , that's my recipe!
Thanks for watching.
I got $600 would you build me a subwoofer box with a subwoofer 12-in subwoof
Sorry man I don't build for others. Just no time. We do offer flat packs for our hammer which is ordered thru us and cut and shipped by GSG audio.
I appreciate your quality work. Thanks from Antonio Goa, the state of India
Thanks Befrank!
Did you do anything special do the edges of the MDF before painting?
On the Video prior to this we treated them with a water /glue mix.
Man, your visual explanation of what orange peel was, and why it's removed, was great.
Thanks!
Superbe travail, beaucoup de "carrossiers" devraient en prendre de la graine
If you mix up some white glue and water and paint that on the MDF before you start, it seals the surface enough so that the paint sits on top. Just a thought for the future.
I actually did this to the edges in the previous video. It seals great. With the epoxy primer I wouldn't be surprised if the primer sealed them on the 2nd coat without pre sealing. It's fantastic stuff. But I always seal mdf edges with the glue /water mix. If you don't they're sponges for regular paint as I'm sure you know.
dam that is nice .... kinda crazy but nice
What a difference from 2000 grit to the polishing stage. I wonder since there is obviously imperfections in each coat if the final result would have been even better had you sanded or polished the top coat before the clear, since what ever imperfections were in the top coat are still there under the clear.
Also nice to see an experienced person using the same kind of rubber feet I do rather than insisting you need something like the SVS isolators.
For situations I do not want permanent feet, great luck with the anti vibration pads made for industrial equipment, compressors, washing machines, etc.
There's no visible imperfection noticeable once the clear was applied and finished. An auto body guy may be able to answer better but to my eyes I'd see no reason to.
Nice job brother
Super fine work and hard work like from India brother👍
Thanks Santosh!
Man you sure know how to make that box look amazing. Great job on the enclosure and great job on the video...cheers!
Thanks , I do what I can! :)
Im a 20 year painter and honestly, good job!
You'd have saved yourself lots of sanding had you used finishing putty to give you a smooth surface to work with but nice job. Thanks for a good video
Thanks. The cabinet was smooth a baby's bottom before the primer hit. That work was done on a previous video.
Lol finishing putty? This isn’t amateur hour. Look at that glass lady
Great instruction video. Thank you for taking the time to do it. 😀
Glad you enjoyed it!
Absolutely fantastic color an looking gorgeous.....You send it to me ? Germany 😉
Thank you very much!! This sucker would cost a fortune to ship to Germany. It's heavy..😀
@@hometheatergurus just kidding mate......nice work and stay healthy.....
The cab seems very large. what was the speaker you installed?
Um12 and it's comparable in size to svs etc. Tuning good drivers low takes some space. In return you get broken dishes and strangers knocking at the door. We covered all of this in previous episodes where we modeled and designed the sub.
I am not a professional painter by any means. This is what a professional painter says 😅
😂Sometimes it's true. You do not want me painting your car. Trust me!
Thank you for this my friend. I've been thinking about doing a little project to make side panels for my hi-fi components, and this has given me the confidence to go ahead!
Awesome. The worst that happens is you screw it up and have to sand it and do it again. So far I haven't had that happen. Good luck!
Beautiful job!! Wish I had the patience.
still can see the orange peel, would love to show you how to do it perfectly in person
Thanks for watching!
Great video. Amazing results. Brian at Apex Detailing does some great wet sanding videos
Orange peel is caused by paint technique or viscosity.... Get it right and it goes on like glass
The purpose of this video was actually to purposely get orange peel so I could show those that are worried they won't get it perfect, that it's easy to fix. But thanks I'll play with that in a later project.
@@hometheatergurus Little splash of 2k thinners in lacquer makes it lay lovely
You can use rattle can primer for mdf but you have to use a primer that is a sealer/filler type primer. Two even coats or one coat overlapping 50% like you did will work.
I may try it but I absolutely love the epoxy primer. It's cheap and you can cover a large area very quickly with the hvlp.
Something you should mention is NOT to allow the water from the wet sanding to get on uncoated MDF. It will absorb that water and swell up underneath the paint. It will be very difficult to fix that. And wood putty to fill in any dings will absorb the water too! Ask me how I know.
The edges were sealed when i applied primer but yeah raw Mdf doesn't like water. This video is in the history books so I'm not able to add anything to it or edit the actual video.
Beautiful work I'm getting ready to paint a 16 cuft MDF box for 4 15" subs and I've been looking for good tips because I've never done a paint job that didn't involve nothing but rattle cans and sand paper and I want it to look really nice. Thanks for an extremely detailed video on how to get a very nice finish.
I use glass marbles in my paint to stir it up without shaking the bottle and getting air bubbles... Just drop a handful into the bottle and swirl the bottle. You can reuse them once the bottle is empty. You can thank my auto shop teacher in high school.
Good idea, Thanks!
Excellent job, good step-by-step narration. Take some advice from a guy who has mild COPD. You only have two lungs. Protect them. A decent canister respirator is less than $50. Your lungs will love you for it. Wear goggles too. Just sayin'.
Thank you. I wore a canister respirator during this video. The base is water based and I was up wind or holding my breath even with that. The primer and clear are both high voc, you'll notice I wear a mask even when mixing.
Great video and a new sub...."pun intended"...lol
Thanks! 😂
Who comes up with such bullshit? When the membrane accelerates forwards, the housing accelerates backwards! That sounds muddy and the system loses sound pressure. Put spikes underneath and weights (100/200 kg) on top and then listen again! Build a sandwich housing and fill it with quartz sand or concrete! Subwoofers always have to be connected, you can also screw them to the floor or wall if it is made of concrete or stone! But the jelly just wastes energy!!!
Lacquer us SUPER THICK!!!!
it dries FAST!
you MUST THIN ITi finally got a decent finish with an 80% thinner and 20% Lacquer. Temp was only around 65°F !!!
...if you need to take an edge off or a drip, just use straight thinner, but carefully.
Godd job. At 25:40 you can see the MDF joint. The surface should be pre even before the primer.
It actually was perfectly even however MDF and Humidity cause issues and the long panels of MDF will expand past an end panel. In reality , now that it's in a climate controlled house, it's so faint I'd have to point it out and you still may not see it.
@@hometheatergurus ok thanks for the reply. I saw, i think in New Yorkshire woodshop, that he let the MDF rest for a week in a hot chamber before working with it. His results are always perfects. Its worth the view.
@@renatogomes2396 interesting. It's definitely my favorite finish. I've done veneers on speakers before but base coat clear coat just looks so good.
Sorry, one more thing. I take it to 5000 grit where I sand at 25 - 30 degree angles going from one grit to the next in order to negate the scratches from the previous grit. Then, I hit it with a cutting compound before going for a fine one (here in Europe I am using compounds by Rupes, who also make professional sanders). Like I said, just my 2cw
i enjoyed watching this... learned a lot! well explained and not boring it's good upto the last drop!!!
Bar table acrylic
Finally, someone else that knows the difference between gloss and piano gloss, unlike SVS lol
Ohh there's definitely a huge difference between buffed single stage paint and a base /clear. HUGE!
High end painters don't distinguish between gloss and piano gloss. We call it normal.
This gloss is awesome but knocking SVS makes little to no sense at all. You can always make a custom finish for yourself if you have the time and know how. SVS offers the gloss finish for a wide range of customers while maintaining a sustainable cash flow. For fantastic al a carte finish from a company please see JWM Audio. You’ll get my meaning. The price is also eye opening.
@@beyondonethousand I think he was making a little DIY joke. Ultimately the frequencies will not care if cabinet is unfinished, shag carpet, or piano gloss.
Don't you have little bugs, flies and wind-borne grit in the USA? If I sprayed outdoor in the UK it have so much stuck in it would look like an adhesive fly-killer strip!
Ohh yes certain times of the year it's bad. I picked a nice day. I had a few specs in it but they come out when wet sanding. I did have to remove one bug during the clear coat application that left a dimple. The next coat of clear filled it in.
I've done the home made paint booth and much prefer to just take it outside.
I'll tell u like I tell everyone else I see laying down clear coat. Slow down and get a little closer. Your "orange peal" shouldn't be that heavy. You're not putting it on wet enough. Damn good looking box though. Nice work.
Thanks.
It definitely makes for more elbow work and I'm by no means a pro. Luckily sand paper can work magic. Next time I'll try a tad closer.
It was some extreme peel but I'm kinda glad as it shows even when it's bad it's easily fixable. Good for a video when you want to show people even a beginner can get a good end result.
Great job! Just to get my 2 cent's worth in, I soak the sandpaper I will be using for 15 to 20 minutes in water. Then everytime I see that my block is about to go dry, I dip it in water. That way all the slush on the paper gets washed away and it leaves a film of water on it to continue sanding.
Really impressive! That color is beautiful! I have one question…..why wet sand instead of dry sand?
Thanks. If you look into auto paint practices you'll get a better explanation but the water acts as a lubricant and is far less messy. It also keeps the pad and paint cool.
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The using a spray bottle, that’s what I use and it makes it so much easier and faster. Nice work. I paint 4 base coats and 7 clear coats. I know very over kill but if you ever put you hear on top, it gives you more meat for buffing later on
I actually used a spray bottle the first time I did this which last year. This time I just grabbed whatever was close. It's definitely more convenient.
And wow.. 7 coats. Yeah that is definitely some insurance. Nothing wrong with overkill especially when it helps ensure you've got plenty of protection when sanding it down.
Great job. Thanks.
Any chance if you know how to fix SCRATCHES on high glosss surfaces?
Absolutely blown, turned out awesome... I've been watching your videos over the past 4months cause I want to build my own Cinema and honestly you really bring some useful information on the table I'm watching every video you post up, not because I'm planning to build my own sub but due to the fact that it's just really interesting... Good job man, please keep doing what you're doing 😏
Thank you very much. I'm glad you're enjoying the channel! Here very soon I'll be building my theater, should be some good videos.
you did a good job, looks like it turned out awesome. if you plan on doing any more projects like this i would advise to invest in a better gun. that harbor freight gun is good for primer but for base and clear you really want something that is better quality. Half of being a "pro" is just having the right tools. Having a better gun will cut down on the amount of sanding and make the job faster and easier. The DeVilbiss 802342 would be a decent starter set. I have heard that the Husky guns from homedepot are ok as well. The gun i use at work is the Tekna 703567, you might even be able to find a tekna gun used for a good price.
I'm a weekend warrior and don't mind some elbow work at all. But if I was doing more I definitely may upgrade.
Any particular reason you used a single stage primer instead of a two stage. Summit says there is a difference - i dunno. How can a primer have any affect when the base coat is dry, and therefore affect the clear coat ?
Maybe im misunderstanding this terminology.
This is the best and i think only vid on RUclips that really explains how to get that piano gloss. Thank you so much for sharing. Can i just ask. If i stained and clear coated a project with polyurethane. Do i just skip the epoxy step and acrylic urethane and just prep to to polish? Or would i need to prep the poly coat and spray its with the urethane ?
Wow. Finely a good video of painting your subwoofer box with spray gun and getting a beautiful gloss finish/Glass look which is my favourite. Hate Ash. Too bad DIY subwoofer kits are not easily available in Canada. As it adds up with shipping/customs/taxes. Great video. Hopefully more to come. Perhaps a Ferrari red subwoofer video. Or colors like STARKE SOUND speakers/subwoofers.
Thanks!
I don't know of any speaker manufacturer that has an actual clear coat. Most are just buffed paint. Of course some that cost as much as a car probably do.
And also, you can flow coat it rather than fuck around with sanding and polishing. And it will give you an amazingly deep gloss.
Try it next time. RUclips flow coat and you will see
dude? why do U not have an air powered sander?? U'r spray nozzle settings will control the amount of oj peal !!!
A beautiful job. Inspiring.
Thank you!