Is This Amazon DIY Speaker Kit A Winner? Let's Build The HiVi Swans 3-Way Kit!

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  • Опубликовано: 29 дек 2024

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  • @walterbkeen
    @walterbkeen Год назад +8

    Absolutely loved building these...
    Also left my crossover stock but rounded over all of the corners with a 1/2" round over bit, and painted the modified cabinets with Gliddon's Maxi-Flex Gloss White (highly recommended).
    Ditched the included terminal cup for Dayton Audio's 5-way gold binding posts. Looks much cleaner, but was quite a bit of work to plug the hole with some scrap mdf and erased the imperfections with automotive body filler.
    Now working on building a set of custom subwoofer stands to match with dual Dayton Audio MX10-22 drivers for each stand powered with a Crown XLS 2502.

  • @JR-ho5qm
    @JR-ho5qm Год назад +20

    Good job on the finish! I’m a Autobody painter and also do some wood finishing on the side. Lacquer really does have its own unique look. If your not already I highly recommend using a catalized version. Sherwin Williams makes a catalized lacquer called a medium rubbed effect that I think looks fantastic and lays absolutely flat. No orange peel whatsoever 👍🏻 I much prefer my wood finishes to have more of a satin look over a gloss. To me the gloss looks dated, cheap and homemade

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад +1

      Thanks, I will look into it! What can you recommend for hvlp auto finish? What paint & clear would be best? Thanks!

    • @JR-ho5qm
      @JR-ho5qm Год назад +3

      @@DIYhyfy hey! I use a high end paint from Axalta called Standox, but it is quite expensive, and allot of what you are paying for in a high end paint is color match technology and warranty. Most of the lower line paints can be pretty good they just don’t come with the same backing as the expensive lines. I would just find a reputable paint store and work with them. I do recommend when purchasing your clearcoat that you ask for a high solids glamour clear or show clear. Also be sure to use a 2K high build primer under everything to seal it all down. Good luck!

    • @walterbkeen
      @walterbkeen Год назад +1

      Really liked the Glidden Maxi-Flex line for small projects.
      Glidden is owned by PPG, and from what I understand the Maxi-Flex line is a Laquer finish.
      Granted nothing beats a 2-part layed down with a decent gun in a controlled environment, but very few have access to that.

    • @Nickporter17
      @Nickporter17 Год назад +3

      You're definitely right about that! Have you ever tried using tung oil? For something like a speaker that doesn't really need protection I'd recommend tung oil over anything else. The beautiful matte depth it gives to the wood is unlike anything else.

  • @magichand72
    @magichand72 Год назад +1

    Built them 2 years ago including upgrading the crossovers. After breaking in they sound almost as transparent as my Dynaudios...They are the best bang for the $ 29 speakers in my house they are one of my favorites

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад

      You're absolutely right!

  • @nicksimko9160
    @nicksimko9160 Год назад

    These look awesome! So awesome that I just ordered the kit myself and I can't wait to hear them in action!

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад

      Whoa! That's awesome, let me know how they go!

  • @riccitone
    @riccitone 23 дня назад

    Great video, thank you for demonstrating the simplicity and internals. I’d love to see a video on the crossover mod, as that would be the turning point for me trying these out 🙏🏼👍🏼

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  22 дня назад +1

      I just might do a video on the xover mod in the future. May even try my hand at a design myself. Stay tuned!

    • @riccitone
      @riccitone 18 дней назад

      @@DIYhyfy sweet! 👍🏼

  • @danrussell9357
    @danrussell9357 Год назад +1

    Liked the video - especially enjoyed the comments at the end!

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад +1

      Thanks!!

    • @danrussell9357
      @danrussell9357 Год назад

      Now that you have some speaker-build videos, are you planning do build any amps?@@DIYhyfy

  • @buzzcrushtrendkill
    @buzzcrushtrendkill 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the vid. I love you do testing. Data with subjective opinions makes for a great review channel.

  • @arturomty9969
    @arturomty9969 Год назад +2

    They looks great, keep up the good work!!!

  • @aitchr8770
    @aitchr8770 Год назад +9

    @DIYhyfy change the orientation of one of the inductors at the back, I'd recommend flipping the rear right front 90%, chamfer the edge of the plastic reel so it sits on the board. It will now be out of the plane orientation of the other two aircore inductors. You will be surprised how much inductors interfere with one another.

  • @CharlesDowiot-qv7pp
    @CharlesDowiot-qv7pp 7 месяцев назад

    Beautiful ✨️ love the wood color nice speakers

  • @scottlowell493
    @scottlowell493 Год назад +3

    Both Cello and ADS used dome mids like that. Excellent drivers. I like the AMT , they play lower and integrate better than a ribbon tweeter.

    • @MichelLinschoten
      @MichelLinschoten Год назад +2

      Planar tweeters , I am sure

    • @Weneedpeople
      @Weneedpeople Год назад

      Those are not AMT... they are a ribbon tweeter, don't know why he keeps saying AMT

    • @FOH3663
      @FOH3663 Год назад

      Yes, these are planars right? Not an AMT, not a ribbon.

  • @AudioTekAdventures-ph9ke
    @AudioTekAdventures-ph9ke Год назад +1

    Thank you for this review and all your great content😃 They looks great, keep up the good work!

  • @C-man553
    @C-man553 Год назад

    Get a good table saw if able. You’ll fall in love with it. I bought a 1500$ Foxshop, 3 hp cabinet saw 15 years ago and it is indispensable, though the fence needs some TLC.
    Watch your fingers. It will take your leg off.

  • @middleearthltd
    @middleearthltd 10 месяцев назад

    Looked like a Morel midrange.
    Those are nice tweeters, mids and drivers and a decent crossover
    For the $$$ that is an impressive value with quality parts

  • @HomeTheatre101
    @HomeTheatre101 Год назад

    Nicely done! ✅

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад +1

      Thanks for watching!

  • @roverdad
    @roverdad Год назад +2

    Lol, i have a big box with these in my living room. Need to build them soon. I have the parts for the Sehlin crossover mod. Thanks for sharing.😊

  • @nickmorrow3829
    @nickmorrow3829 Год назад +4

    Rotate the woofers 90 degrees so all the speakers are aligned for looks. Use either Howard Feed N Wax or Formbys Tung oil finish on you next build.

  • @Gator11178
    @Gator11178 Год назад +1

    I've been looking forward to this one

  • @Preowner
    @Preowner Год назад +5

    That looks like a planar tweeter to me not an AMT. Planars have that distinct cellular look aligned down vertical openings, and are a flat kapton ribbon with the "coil" printed on it. AMT is a pleated ribbon that you can usually see the vertical pleats across horizontal openings.

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад +1

      You're right. It's an isodynamic ribbon. Don't know where I got the idea that they were AMTs. Probably because I'm constantly shopping for them!

  • @DurokSubaka
    @DurokSubaka 5 месяцев назад +1

    When spraying add Flood Floetrol to your paint make smooth finishes easy.

  • @johnbravo7542
    @johnbravo7542 Месяц назад

    If I can make a suggestion with finish coat of the speakers,as a speaker builder from scratch myself I have had great success with "MinWax wipe on poly" I'm from Australia,and the second largest home improvement chain we had, used to carry MinWax wipe on Poly, unfortunately they are now gone,and we can't get that product in Australia anymore,it came as a oil based and water based,I have tried both and the finish you get with the oil based is like a professional spray finish,it's very easy and quick to wipe it all on and wipe off,use a very fine 240 grit "sponge pad" not paper and block,that takes off all nibs,nibs are caused from the wood fibers being raised,once it has fully cured after 24 hours,wipe on another coat,and lightly sand with 240 grit sponge again,then the third coat is the final coat,the finish will blow your mind,I also used the satin,as not a fan of gloss,gloss makes things look plasticy.

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Месяц назад +1

      Hey, great advice. Shame to hear about difficulty finding materials. Wipe on poly is great, and I agree satin is best. The gloss makes nice projects look cheap.
      I've since switched to spraying lacquer. It's very volatile and requires space to spray, but the results are worth it.

    • @johnbravo7542
      @johnbravo7542 Месяц назад

      @@DIYhyfy yes I agree.

  • @RedSinter
    @RedSinter 17 дней назад

    Note: If you want to lower or eliminate Bass Standing wave etc you should disassemble them and radius the inside speaker thru holes the sharp edges tend to cause diffraction issues. Also eliminate push on wire connectors, do not use PVC jacketed speaker wire polyethylene is better, get ride of Sand Cast resistors for better resistors usually $8.00 and up per and upgrade your Caps spendy $50 per and up. but the radius of thru holes is a must.

  • @quikspecv4d
    @quikspecv4d Год назад +2

    These look great! I have the powered version of these. Swan M2A. I love them. I totally agree with you on the awesome soundstage. I’m pretty sure the dome midrange contributes to that quite a lot.

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад +1

      Yep, when there are male vocals they are much lower (at the height of the dome) where females are usually around 6-7ft high in the soundstage

  • @northa4021
    @northa4021 Год назад +1

    There appears to quite a boost in the high frequency, is it not overly harsh?

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад +1

      Yes there is a big rise. They never come off harsh to me. It's possible this is also in part the ummik1 problem

    • @Openeyesopenheart42
      @Openeyesopenheart42 Год назад

      Measurement should have been done at between mid and treble driver, as you measured on axis to tweeter, the measurements are hotter in the top end than in actual use.

    • @Weneedpeople
      @Weneedpeople Год назад +1

      Not a great curve... would love to send them to GR-research for tweeking

  • @Victrola777
    @Victrola777 11 месяцев назад

    I absolutely had to reduce the midrange and tweeter outbut by seveal db. I am now thinking of replacing the woofer for one with more output.

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  11 месяцев назад

      I run mine highpassed at 95hz. This means the bass from them isn't very important for me. I would rather have less distortion, and let subwoofers handle the low end.

  • @DarioEspina
    @DarioEspina 11 месяцев назад

    Just a quick think, the inductors at the crossover need to be in a different "plane" each of other, this is to reduce the magnetic disturbances

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  10 месяцев назад

      This is true, however the coils are quite small, and far apart. I wanted to build this the way it was designed. Hopefully to help someone who is looking for a guide on assembly.

  • @johnjust2502
    @johnjust2502 6 месяцев назад

    How did you trim the veneer over the shallow tweeter relief area? Which router bit?

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  6 месяцев назад

      There are special shallow bits for router, but I generally use my hand & a razor blade for shallow recesses.

  • @Frozen_in_Carbonite
    @Frozen_in_Carbonite Год назад

    Thanks for the informative video. I might have to snag a pair of these for a winter build project.
    You mention that your high-pass is set to around 95Hz. Try setting it a around 60.Hz Being that you are covering the lows with 18" and a 21" subs, you might get a better transition at the lower setting. On a related note, where do you have the low-pass set for the subs?
    Just my $0.02.

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад

      Hey unfortunately I can't control the highpass (to my knowledge). It's set by my pre amp in hardware.
      I don't have a constant low pass. But it's usually somewhere in the 80-100 range. But I adjust to taste often.

  • @eksine
    @eksine 6 месяцев назад

    Nice finish. I just bought these and theres a promotion to get a free mtm in wall 5.25" woofer speaker. Weirdly after i placed the order it shows the in wall speakers out of stock. They still have the 5" one.

  • @dippitydoinit
    @dippitydoinit Год назад +2

    I've had so many frustrating moments with gaskets on speakers and parts that I've started dabbing some super glue in a few spots to hold them on while I install the part.

  • @purplerider2362
    @purplerider2362 Год назад

    I’m actually looking to get these. I recently put together a 2.2a diy kit. And they are superior to my other speakers. They even sound better than my klipsh reference towers. Amazing sound. I really couldn’t believe it because the price was so cheap. For reference I’ve built a few kits from parts express that were almost double the price. They do not sound as good as these. The tweeter especially is great. The bass is full and loud. I’m pretty disappointed in parts express. I built the morel ardons. They are bookshelves and each are 230. The teeter on them
    Is horrible. The drivers lack bass. Anyway I’ve been really happy with these speakers. So now I wanna build these. Good video

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад +1

      I highly encourage you to do so. The ribbon tweeter on these is incredible. They image like the performer is in the room with you. I use a high-pass on mine at 96hz, but running full range, they put out a lot of bass. They really are very special. Thanks for watching!

  • @paulb4661
    @paulb4661 Год назад

    Try getting all the drivers flush next time, I understand you're trying to keep acoustic centres close, especially with the high upper xover frequency, but that step and diffraction is not a price worth paying. Line the internals wit some open cell foam, keep some loose wool fibres in the centre, but as others pointed, those massive slabs right against the diaphragm on the inside are damaging. Well done!

    • @davidjudd951
      @davidjudd951 Год назад

      Are you referring to the internal braces?

    • @paulb4661
      @paulb4661 Год назад +1

      @@davidjudd951 Slabs of foam to the left and right; had positive outcome employing B&W matrix derived internal structure of interconnected chambers, supporting constrained layer damping cabinet walls, internally lined with lead sheet, back in the day. You could say, it's internal bracing taken to extreme.

    • @davidjudd951
      @davidjudd951 Год назад

      @@paulb4661 Thank you. I recently glued internal bracing inside some budget floor speakers.
      Wasn't sure if it was done properly.

  • @Gator11178
    @Gator11178 Год назад +3

    Did you encounter any noise from having the inductions all in the same orientation?

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад

      That's actually a good question. To be completely honest, it never even crossed my mind. It would be interesting to reorient and measure again (both freq & imp). Maybe an idea for a future video!
      P.S. when are you starting your channel?

  • @fredrikastrom9372
    @fredrikastrom9372 Год назад +9

    the coils on the crossover should be turned 90 degrees to eachother, or they will affect eachother

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад

      Yes I'm aware. I built this as it's laid out. The coils are far enough apart to be fine.

    • @fredrikastrom9372
      @fredrikastrom9372 Год назад

      do you have a link to the kit, or the midranges? @@DIYhyfy

    • @Obsfucation
      @Obsfucation Год назад +3

      That’s a bit too much damping foam. In a vented enclosure you should have a moderate amount just to suppress the reflections of any midrange signal from the woofer. If you have too much it will absorb the lower frequencies and will dampen out the tuned resonance which makes a vented design effective at extending the bass response down. In this case, more is definitely not better. Also, with this being a three way with a sealed midrange the frequency range that you’re attempting to dampen isn’t really there.

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад

      ​@@fredrikastrom9372HiVi-Swans DIY 3 Way Passive Bookshelf Speakers Pair - DIY Speaker Kit-Peak Power 120 Watt Home Theater Bookshelf Speakers for Surrounds or Front a.co/d/dsoKPsa

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад

      ​@Obsfucation Thanks, I may try removing some and measure again.

  • @marcosj7134
    @marcosj7134 2 месяца назад

    I would like to hear these with a 2nd woofer.

  • @billsmith5166
    @billsmith5166 11 месяцев назад

    I'm the guy that suggested using an old AV receiver yesterday (bad idea). Just wondering if you've ever considered bi or tri-amping a two or three driver speaker with an equalizer instead of a crossover on each driver? I'm thinking about building some speakers - the first in 15 to 20 years, and I'm kind of stuck on the idea. I'm finding bits and pieces on the idea around the internet but no solid leads. I'm sure you're a bit too busy to respond to this sort of comment, but I just thought I'd throw it out in the ether.. By the way, thanks for the video!

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  11 месяцев назад

      I'm not big on bi amping and such. There may be some benefits, but the cost is much higher. That said, DSP is a great alternative to passive crossovers. However this requires one channel of amplification per driver. I would like to build around DSP in the future, but will stay with passive filters for now.

  • @layton7430
    @layton7430 11 месяцев назад

    Do they have good bass? I'm looking for a speaker build that has built-in sub woofers so I don't have to have 4 speakers 2 is better. Also why does it have 4 posts?

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  11 месяцев назад +1

      If you are wanting true full range, check out @toidsdiyaudio Epique build. These have really great bass, even more so for a bookshelf. With that said, I prefer using them with a subwoofer, but could live without one and be happy. Dont mind the binding posts on the back. Those are used for multi-amp setups. They come connected stock; this makes them function as a single set.

  • @MechAdv
    @MechAdv 3 месяца назад

    Damn that tweeter is HOT. I don’t think I’d be able to listen to these without padding that thing down substantially. Considering that you took an in room measurement too, where you’d ideally want to see a downward slope on the FR, that’s just… damn.

  • @lukasgayer5393
    @lukasgayer5393 Год назад +2

    Those two upper speaker that overlap are giving me anxiety :D

    • @MichelLinschoten
      @MichelLinschoten Год назад +1

      It's to get as close as possible to a favorable acoustical center ...

    • @davidjudd951
      @davidjudd951 Год назад +1

      I've seen high dollar manufacturers do it that way.

  • @dannyblaha9344
    @dannyblaha9344 Год назад

    good video thanks

  • @DougMacGregor-d4e
    @DougMacGregor-d4e Месяц назад

    Where can I purchase these now? I can't find them for sale anymore? anyone?

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Месяц назад

      Hey, they should be available on Amazon. Search for Hivi 3.1.
      Sometimes when you search, it will only show you their two way design. When you click on the 2-way it will show you the option for the 3-way kit.

  • @bactanite
    @bactanite Год назад +1

    Amazon is selling these for $788.24 in Canada.

  • @llee4225
    @llee4225 Год назад

    The freq response looks very uneven and bright treble? Wondering if the mike was too close and directly at the tweeter. I though most are measured 1M away?

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад

      There a several ways to measure a speaker. This is a very solid method. That said, it is definitely the speaker itself. They're known to be very bright. I may do a mod in the future to rectify this. Thanks for watching!

  • @cliffordpurk18
    @cliffordpurk18 Год назад

    Do you think these boxes could handle more power while using full range?

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад +1

      Yea these boxes are really sturdy. Mostly because of their size, being so small.

    • @cliffordpurk18
      @cliffordpurk18 Год назад

      @@DIYhyfy Awesome, thank you for the response!

  • @Yessssz
    @Yessssz 10 месяцев назад

    Anyone know the sensitivity on these? Looking for something for 9w 300b

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  10 месяцев назад +1

      I am not certain these would be a good fit for an amp like this. I have not measured sensitivity, but these are a bit easier to drive than a pair of Elac DB5.2s. The volume hovers around the same area where most of my other typical box-style speakers stay.

    • @Yessssz
      @Yessssz 10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the input!

  • @crossoverchef
    @crossoverchef Год назад

    the frequency response.............? you need to do something with the crossover to fix that.

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад

      I use EQ to bring the top end down a bit. I may mod the xover in the future. But for now, I wanted to build them for people interested in building them stock. It's pretty bright as is lol

  • @forbeginnersandbeyond6089
    @forbeginnersandbeyond6089 Год назад

    Just a suggestion on your camera movement. Make it steady. Your video is hard to watch because you move the camera in and out constantly. Makes me dizzy.

    • @DIYhyfy
      @DIYhyfy  Год назад

      Appreciate the tip. I have been thinking of using a steady cam. I think I will use one going forward. I figured it was an issue for some.

  • @Weneedpeople
    @Weneedpeople Год назад +1

    While those ARE nice tweeters, they are not AMT, they are planar magnetic RIBBON tweeters. Nice speakers, if I felt confident I could make the cabinets look nice, I would buy some... I don't feel confident.

  • @altops4490
    @altops4490 Год назад +1

    Stop using steel parts in the sig al path for maximum quality sound, no steel binding post,tube connectors only. no sandcast resistors-mills only, direct solder, all connections, with polywire. Your missing sooo much.

  • @Rebel9668
    @Rebel9668 Год назад +7

    I'd have to be really bored and wealthy before I'd spend $350.00 bucks on a pair of bookshelf speakers I had to assemble and finish myself, lol. But then, I refinish and restore old tube radios so who am I to talk? On the plus side, I can find a lot of old radios for 350 bucks.

    • @bbfoto7248
      @bbfoto7248 Год назад +5

      @Rebel9668
      Some folks enjoy doing the woodworking and finishing themselves in order to get exactly the performance and aesthetic look they want, just like you enjoy restoring the old tube radios.
      When the Crossovers are modified and properly sorted out on these loudspeakers, they will perform like $1500+ off-the-shelf speakers from some of the more popular brands, and loudspeakers are the final interface between your ears and the music, so a well-designed pair of loudspeakers can make a night & day difference in your listening experience.

    • @johnnytacokleinschmidt515
      @johnnytacokleinschmidt515 Год назад +2

      I think you'll be doing this eventually... You don't know what you're missing out on!

    • @davidjudd951
      @davidjudd951 Год назад +4

      It's more about the hobby, and satisfaction and joy of doing the project.
      After all, most hobbies aren't money makers, or about profit. They're a great way to reduce stress, and learn, and shoot the bull with other hobbyists.
      And sometimes show off our projects.

    • @C-man553
      @C-man553 Год назад +3

      Gen Z I assume.

    • @davidjudd951
      @davidjudd951 Год назад

      For some, it's a hobby thing. And like most hobbies, they're not money makers.

  • @richardburfoot461
    @richardburfoot461 5 месяцев назад

    Oh no. Another interesting (maybe) video spoilt by awful background noise - why??

  • @Mark-rw3kw
    @Mark-rw3kw Год назад

    How to Stain Wood Evenly Without Getting Blotches and Dark Spots (note, this is not an endorsement of any one brand. Other brands will work fine and other similar methods may be effective also):
    ruclips.net/video/6lMU8r3av_k/видео.html

    • @davidjudd951
      @davidjudd951 Год назад

      A quality sanding sealer helps with blotching.

  • @steverogers7611
    @steverogers7611 Год назад +2

    Looks like my wharfdale evo 2.2