Schecter C7 SLS Elite vs Schecter Banshee Mach 7 (FISHMAN FLUENCE vs LUNDGREN M7)
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- Опубликовано: 17 июн 2021
- Schecter C7 SLS Elite vs Schecter Banshee Mach 7 Fishman Fluence Modern 7 vs Lundgren M7
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These are two of Schecter's top production models so a comparison seemed fitting! Both these guitars have a swamp ash body with a flame maple top and an ebony fretboard. The SLS Elite features a maple/walnut/padauk neck while the Banshee Mach 7 features a roasted maple/purple heart neck.
The Fishman Fluence Moderns and the Lundgren M7s are among the best metal pickups out there. The SLS Elite has the ceramic Modern in the bridge and the alnico Modern in the neck. I wanted to demonstrate how versatile both the Fishman and Lundgren pickups are. They are both high output and equally articulate! However, I would describe the Fishmans as being tighter, while the Lundgrens are more open and full.
The rhythm guitars were double tracked and panned left and right. There was no post EQ, compression, etc on any of the guitars.
GEAR:
Schecter C7 FR SLS Elite w/ Fishman Fluence Modern 7 pickups
Schecter Banshee Mach 7 w/ Lundgren M7 pickups
Fractal Audio Systems AXE FX II
Purple Plectrums Apollo PEEK 7mm
Dunlop Jazz III Ultex 2mm
The String Source Diamond 7
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I've had both and the clarity of the fishmans cannot be beat, but for me that mid range snarling growl that the lundgrens have is absolutely top tier for me great playing my man
I agree. I just love the clarity of the fishmans. Thank you!
Which neck is thinner of the two? Or do they have the same neck? I’m considering getting the Mach 7 with an Evertune and I had an ESP EII MII HT 7 and the neck was a bit too thick compared to my Jackson 7 string, and I love the neck on it.
Hey man. I found you on Instagram and I just want to say that you inspired me to start playing again. I had lost all motivation after years of being a metalhead in church bands. Your soloing and mechanical tips are super great too. Imma start putting myself out there again. Tysm stranger!
That's so awesome to hear man! I'm so happy to be able to do that! Keep playing and have fun! I'm glad my tips are helpful to you. Thank you for the wonderful comment!
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Heavy riffs bridge: 00:00
Hi-gain bridge: 01:04
Low-gain neck: 01:36
Hi-gain neck: 02:40
Clean neck: 03:45
Wow dude your technique is on the spot. Some of the most fluid picking I've seen.
Thank you! I appreciate that 🙌🙏
Dooooood, I know it's probably annoying when people ask you but I would absolutely love some or all tabs for this, absolute beast of a piece
Thank you! I actually don't have it tabbed out yet but perhaps I will in the future. 🙌
A beautiful demo, and a beautiful piece!
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it. It was a lot of fun putting it together!
Great demo and playing!
Thank you! I appreciate it. I'm glad you liked it!
Excellent pickup comparison. I love the Fishmans but I think I prefer the Lundgrens. I have an evertune banshee mach 6 with Lundgrens and it sounds crazy good in drop B tuning. Awesome vid.
Thank you! I appreciate that! I love both as well. The Lundgrens handle lower tunings so well. The Banshee is one of the best guitars I have ever played!
SlS Elite with the Fishmans sound smoother, more even. The Banshee had a little more mid/high. Both seem like serious shred/metal machines. The guys in Korea are really making some nice guitars.
I can definitely see what you mean! They certainly are making some amazing guitars and Schecter is speccing out some insane builds!
Just found your channel. Really love your playing and musical ideas. Exited for your album! I'm watching you man! Greetings from Russia!😉🤘
I appreciate the kind words! Feel free to keep up on my Instagram. The album should be dropping within the next two months! 🤘
Exceptional playing man.exceptional.
Thank you! It means a lot! 🙏
Your playing is insane . accurate / clean / tasty . Respect.
Thank you! I appreciate it 🙌
I may not be able to make up my mind on which one I want, but I do know I want to play like you. Damn tastey man!
It really is a tough decision. Thank you! 🙌🤘
Both are fantastic but I give the edge to the Fishmans. I just like how they're voiced more.
The interesting thing about the Fishmans for me is that they always sound good! It's so easy to get amazing tones with them!
Thank you for review. I like Schecter Banshee Mach 7 sound
No problem. That one is definitely fuller sounding. 🤘
I just spent 4 hours in Sweetwater comparing the banshee to the km-7 mkiii artist. The lundgrens were amazing but the merrow fishmans sounded very close in the high output mode. In the end the km-7 came home but it was a battle for sure. Now I'll just get the banshee in the 6 string version lol
Haha I love the ending to that story! I think we can all agree that you gotta have both. 😁
im having the same battle. ive come to the conclusion that theyre a package deal, if i buy one im gonna have to buy both
Yep! Gotta have both
Omg, I love the versatility of the Banshee with the Mach 7, listen to that 2:24
It's pretty amazing! 🔥🔥
I really enjoyed every single second of this! But my favorite part was 01:35. 😊
Thank you! I like the contrast there as well! 😊
The sls elite is still top for me.
I kept thinking if I could have the banshee for recordings and SLS for pretty much anything else life would be a dream.
But if I absolutely had to pick one I wouldn’t be hurting at all with the elite.
I love the warmth so much that I’d be happier tuning a track to fit the guitar instead of visa versa
I agree. After over a year with the Banshee now, I can say I rarely ever pick it up. The SLS is still Schecter's best and probably the best metal production guitar under 2.5k 🤘
Great review!! Been looking forward to a review like this for a long time. Both awesome guitars Schecter build's for me are second to none for the money. Here's my question to you if you could only have one of the two guitars which one would it be?
Thank you! I'm glad you liked it! Honestly, it's such a difficult decision to make. I'll grab my SLS one hour and the Banshee the next. Both are amazing. I think it comes down to the pickups mostly. For straight up shredding, I enjoy the Fishmans a little more. They're super tight and focused. But for most melodic playing, I like the fullness of the Lundgrens and the way they respond. I also like the neck of the Banshee a bit more. It's the perfect neck for my hand, seriously! But the 7 piece neck on the SLS is more stable. If you are asking me today, I would probably pick the Banshee. But ask me tomorrow, and I might say the SLS. I hope that was somewhat helpful!
@@AmarAlhoch Thanks for the response. I get where you are coming from it's almost impossible to find a guitar that does it all and does it well. I ama bass player first and foremost. I also play guitar on the side. Also keep up the great work!!
Agreed man! That's why I always go for something a little different with every purchase. Will do! I appreciate it! 🙌
Nice comparison dude, and amazing playing as always! I think I like the Lundgren pickups more!
Thanks man! I appreciate you checking it out! I'm really enjoying the Lundgrens these days!
A nice video again no doubt. There is something I really wonder about these fishman pickups. Do you really feel like playing with a sensitive, responsive passive pickup? I mean are these pickups sensitive to picking position, angle and can you get cleaner tone when you turn down the volume like passive pickups??
You entered my radar on youtube. I sub you and clicked the Bell. Keep rockin!
Thank you! I appreciate that! I have a video on my Instagram from November if you want to scroll through that which demonstrates a lower gain tone. Going from voice 1 to voice 2 and then rolling down the volume a bit. But to say a few words here, yes I find that it is quite responsive but different. It's not going to be like a passive because it's not a passive but from an active perspective, it does respond differently to all the things you mentioned. If you want an open sound, you'll need to go passive. If you are looking for a tighter more focused sound, then active is the way to go.
Amazing playing and nice comparison!
In terms of output and compression, which of these two pickups would you say has more? Reason I'm asking is that I've lost quite a bit of finger strength over the years, but I play legato a lot. So I'd like a pickup with rather high output and/or compression, so that I don't have to hit the frets as hard in order for the pickup to register a note.
For reference, I am currently using a Seymour Duncan Nazgul in my Ibanez 8 string currently. It is fine, but I feel like it's lacking something (maybe the compression of an active pickup like the Fishman or the high output of the Lundgren).
Thank you! Both pickups are extremely high output and they'll pick up everything. But I'll have to say the Fishmans. I absolutely never use a compressor with these pickups. 👌🤘
Both guitars are sick, riffs are sick, seamless transitions 5* would come again 😁
Thank you 🤘😀
Man that's some nice playing :-) Exactly the kind of stuff I like to write & play (but not as well as you!). I was seriously considering a C7 SLS Elite recently, I had tried to order a KM-7 III Artist after hearing it was discontinued and found a retailer with some supposdely left in stock but had my order cancelled after that was wrong. So I started thinking about the SLS but would have missed the coil split. I suppose that's not too difficult to wire up with the Fishmans though, for whatever reason Schecter choose to use both push/pulls for voice switching which I suppose is better than ESP that only do a single voice change that affects both pickups. Anyways I was able to find a KM-7 from another retailer, must have gotten one of the last few available and I'm very happy with it, the Fishmans in it are incredible, sounds like you are already playing in a full mix.
Would love to hear a bit about how you can play so fast and clean. Are you using hybrid picking at all, hard to tell but it looks like you may be plucking you strings with your ring/pinky fingers in addition to picking normally. But that could just be the way your hands move when you play fast. Also do you know what kind of rhythms your using in the shred leads around 2:47 ? I've only been playing a couple years so still trying to learn more advanced stuff like this. I've seen that one common pattern used for this is doing a group of 3 then repeating it before moving to the next position i.e. 5 7 8 5 7 8 then onto the next part. Would be interesting to know if you have certain patterns already planned/learned for a lead like this or if you've just built up so much playing like that in your muscle memory it just flows without having to think about it.
Amazing‼️
Thank you!
I really think I'm ordering a mach 7 fr s. Would you say that's the better option? I think I like the tone more and just the overall look. And the elite doesn't have the sustaniac option. Kinda wish you did a clean bridge since thats all the fr s will have but I think I have an idea anyway. Thanks!
Both are great!!I find the overall quality better on the SLS which is surprising considering the mach 7 is more expensive. I do prefer the neck on the Banshee though. The Lundgrens are pretty awesome too. You'll be happy with either!
excellent comparison and very good music!!!, which of the two necks is more like Ibanez's Wizard 7?
I feel like the Banshee is more similar for some reason. 👌
And thank you! 🙌
I've bought a few Schecter guitars over the years. It was an eye opener to purchase a USA Custom shop guitar from them, totally different instrument. The South Korean made stuff looks and sounds nice, but the materials used is not the same. A couple of the South Korean guitars I have are very flexible ( wood is soft ) while the USA made one is solid as a rock.
That's awesome! I'd love to try one of their USA guitars one day. But I'm not in a hurry because then I'll probably start wanting all my guitars USA made. 🤑
USA made guitars do not need to be 100% made in USA to be stamped accordingly. Worth noting.
I own the Mach 7 and the M7s sound great when tuned low, even to F. For the djent type sound the M7s win hands down but for overall versatility I would go with the Fishman.
Yeah, the M7s are great! I find the M7s with the coil tap to be very versatile actually. I spend quite a bit of time with the coil split!
@@AmarAlhoch I am but a mere casual hobbyist but I love to chug and pretend like I can shred. I have owned 7 guitars in my life and the M7 pickups are my favorite. I really wanted an 8 string sound but my hands are tiny, like the size of a petite woman, so I got the 26.5 scale and just tuned it like an 8 without the high E. Damn guitar is still a stretch for me so I am thinking of buying a 24.75 scale 6 string, tuning it to drop Bb , and using a digitech drop to expand the range. I have my Mach 7, in mint condition, with hardshell case on Reverb for 1300.
Hi. As you mentioned that the neck on the SLS is more stable than the Banchee. Shouldn't it be the other way around as the banshee has a roasted neck? Also, does the banshee keep tuning well? Thanks
The first two months with the guitar I had to make multiple adjustments to the truss rod. But now it seems to be good. The SLS is a 7 piece neck, the Banshee is 5. Yeah, it's roasted so I'm not sure what happened there but everything seems to be fine now. And yeah, it stays in tune very well!
Well done!
do you have the tab for all this?
Thank you!
Unfortunately I do not! 🙁
Damn, M7 is true monster. Very percussive. Sit in the mix perfectly. To me, it is superior to Fluence in EVERY single way for metal.
They continue to impress me day after day! They sit very nicely in the mix. This is with no production. 😳
Really nice video. So for playing only metal, what you recommend between:
Schecter Banshee Mach-7 Hipshot VS Schecter C-7 SLS Devil twin (same as the elite) ? (I really like a thin neck for 7 string, and want a nice metal pickup for distortion)
Sorry for the delay. Did you choose one? You can't go wrong with either. After a year with the Banshee, I can say the quality isn't at the same level as the SLS elite. It has a nicer neck profile. But both guitars are metal machines. I'd get whichever looks more inspiring for you 🤘🤘
@@AmarAlhoch , finally I got a used Schecter mach-7 Hipshot. I agree that the neck is amazing 🤩
@NICEGRAM-ME-AMRA-ALHOCH I won a guitar?
Hello dear amar. I really liked the video and thank you. I actually have a question. I'm looking to buy a guitar but can't decide between the SLS elite and the mk6.kmIII. I will be grateful if you guide me.
Are you able to play them? It's a tough decision. I find that with this tier, all the Schecters are great. One isn't better than the other but they feel quite a bit different: the necks and body contours. And then theirs pickups which is preference as well. If possible, I think it would help to try both to see which contour and neck you prefer. I'm sure both are great though either way.
@@AmarAlhoch thank you Amar!🙏
Hi Amar, great video! I am currently deciding between both guitars and I am having trouble deciding. Could you elaborate on your setup for these guitars in their current setup? Have you considered the banshee mach 7 with Floyd rose system? There also is a version of the sls elite with a multiscale, would you be willing to elaborate on your choice to go for a hardball bridge and normal scale for both those guitars? Thanks so much!
Hi there! I didn't see this comment before. Sorry for the delay. Both are great guitars! My SLS is actually a Floyd model. I always go Floyd when I can because I'm primarily a lead player. My banshee is the hard tail version and I made that decision for rhythm. I have a hard time getting my FR to hold any string thicker than a 64. If it came in a MS, I would have probably gone for that. It would make leads a little bit easier. 👌
@@AmarAlhoch hello. I'm just curious as to how the u shaped neck of the banshee feels compared to the c shaped neck of the elite?
It feels thinner and narrower, even though it's the same thickness and width. It's nothing like the LTD U necks I have tried in the past. For me personally, the neck on the Banshee is the best neck I have ever played!
@@AmarAlhoch wow, cool! Thanks for the response! I may snag a banshee now!
I like both! But I will say I slightly prefer the sound of the sls elite
Thank you for sharing! The Fishmans can't sound bad if you tried. That's no exaggeration. But yeah, I also love both and find myself going back and forth every hour. 😅
Hey =) this is amazing playing and guitar comparison =)
i want to buy one of these guitars i want Schecter Banshee Mach 7 for the looks,
,the pickups i cant deside so i want to go for the looks
of the banche also cause it has flamed neck that can help stability
and playability comfort,,but how are the ultra thin c vs ultra thin u ?
can u tell the difrence?
Thank you! Yeah, I definitely notice the difference. I normally go for C necks but I'll tell you, the utlra thin U neck on the Banshee Mach 7 is the BEST neck I have ever played! No lie! 🤘
@@AmarAlhoch ty for reply.. I have a jl-7 now the 2008 model... The neck is great but a litle thick so i was thinking ultra thin c..but i think i will buy this schecter Banshee Mach-7 it is the best looking guitar out there 🤩
Geez you are good at playing
Thanks Nick! I appreciate it! Feel free to check out the Instagram as well if you'd like for more content! ✌️
I was pretty torn between these two guitars but I was leaning more towards the C-7 SLS ELITE. After watching this comparison I'm even more torn lmao. The Fishmans sound more versatile but that growl on the high mids on the Lundgrens is perfect for the heavier stuff I play. Which would you choose?
They're both awesome. I think the banshee has one of the best necks I've ever played. But overall I preferred the quality on the SLS. I no longer have the banshee but I still have the SLS. 🎸
Great playing... Love it. What tuning did you use?
Thank you! If was half a step down. 🤘
@@AmarAlhoch Really like your album too... Great playing.
I really appreciate you listening to it! 🙌
I have 6 string versions of both of these guitars and I’m about to put the Fishman pickups in the Mach 6 but I keep second guessing myself. I know i like the tightness of the Fishman and the fact that Mach 6 is just a beefier guitar body wise I think it will sound huge.
They're both awesome. After a year with the Mach 7 I decided I'm going to let it go. I also prefer the Foshmans. I keep going back to them!
@@AmarAlhoch and @shaynestilllife , I'm deciding between the two guitars currently, and I don't find the sound difference to be a deal breaker for me either way-they both sound so good, and each with their own flavor. I am curious, however, in terms of their overall build quality, hardware, and difference in the neck wood. Which do you think is a better guitar overall? The banshee seems to sell for a couple hundred dollars more (particularly the ever tune model)-is that worth it? Would you get it over the sls elite and why?
I haven’t tried the c7, however, I do have the banshee w/ evertune and I must say that I have never played a guitar that sounds as good as it for the style I play
It's amazing! I loved the neck on mine 🔥🔥
How thick is the neck on the Mach 7? I’ve heard they are thin but I had an ESP EII MII ht7 but the neck was a bit too thick for my liking.
inside the head of a bee, any chance you can rake out a few slow chords with some diff gain off the amp
I do have other videos with these guitars so you might find what you are looking for there ✌️
wow wow wow Awesome🤘
Thank you! 🙌
It's so sad that the C7 SLS Elite is so hard to find in Europe :( I'd love to try one out and eventually buy one! :D
Ah it's such a great guitar! I hope you can get your hands on one!
Cool video, man.. Fantastic playing and demonstration of both pickup sets. Love the surgical attack on the Fishman's, but those Lundgren's definitely have the more appealing metal growl and throat.
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I'm with you, both have their pros. 🔥
Guitars aside, you are amazing at guitar haha
I appreciate that! Plenty more on IG. Feel free too check it out. I got guitar tips there and plenty more coming! 🙌
The only thing that holding me back to buy the banshee is the switch position. I like it in the front rather in the middle like that
I'm not a fan of the switch position either
can you make comparison without drums and bass only guitars
You want it the same way with rhythm guitars panned left and right? Everything the same but no bass and drums?
@@AmarAlhoch yes
Lundgrens took it for me, Mach 6 will be here tomorrow.
Awesome! I hope you're loving the new guitar 🔥🤘
@@AmarAlhoch It's phenomenal !! Between the Lundgrens clarity and the sparkling finesse of the stainless steel frets it's absolutely a joy to play. Sounds great out of the Rockerverb 100 for sure.
Thanks for the review of these pups, you were a part of me taking the gamble on Schecter as I've been an ESP EII guy for years.
Man I want to love that Banshee so much but I just don't think I'm going to pull the trigger on it the tone of this sustained pickup and I think the Lundgren pickups sound weird.
I think it's great for a meshugga type tone but that's not what I and looking for.
I miss the good old days when everything came with emg 81 in the bridge LOL I wish Schecter would make a seven string 26.5 inch scale with stainless steel frets neck through Construction with no neck pickup an EMG 81 in the bridge and a simple volume knob with a Floyd Rose 1000 and an ebony fretboard
I'm loving the tones from the Lundgrens but like with everything, they're not for everyone. Maybe they'll make the Banshee GT series in a 7. Those come loaded with EMGs. 🤘
Sounds like you want an ESP Black metal tbh
So did you keep the elite?
I kept both but I'll most likely be selling the Banshee.
Well heck, that video was useless. LOL
JK
I was hoping that one of them would dominate…but in truth, they both sound great.
Hmmmm…
Do I NEED another guitar..?
(Define “need.” LOL But as I already have close to forty, probably not. But clearly that has never stopped me.)
At this point it will probably come down to the other hardware & finish option.
Keep up the great work.
haha yeah, comparing them doesn't make it any easier as they're both awesome 😏 and of course you need a new guitar!!!
I think I'm a little late on this but. If you had to pick one of this pickups for the bridge for mainly lead. Would it be the Fishman or the Lundgren? Thnks!
You can't go wrong with either but if I HAD to choose one, I would probably go for the Fishmans. I just love the way they sound ALL the time. 🤘
@@AmarAlhoch thanks for the answer. I'm just about to buy the Schecter Eviltwin S FR *fishman* or Banshee 6 FR S. And I'm really having a hard time picking one or the other. The Banshee has a little more character on the top color.
My advice is always to go for the guitar that's going to be more inspiring for you to pick up. That's the most important thing in my opinion!
The C7 FR SLS elite wins!
It lacked a bit of trebles, though…. .
It's a great guitar for sure 🎸
Fishman hands down
Fishmans always sound good!
HFS Siiiiiiiick
Thank you 🤘🤘
That was weird. Still curious about that flying guitar though :p
Lundgren pickups sounds better to me.
They sure sound awesome!
SLS sounds better to my ear
It has a tighter more focused sound for sure 👌
Both are great but I like the fish man a bit better
Me as well! 👌
M7 all the way, the fishmans sound so cold digital and cheap, no warmth
The Lundgrens do sound amazing 🔥