POOR THINGS Is Wonderfully Strange
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- Опубликовано: 6 дек 2023
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poor things movie review explained baby finally
emma stone wow ily
mark ruffalo i see you
yorgos lanthimos i hear you 
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I disagree with the last half of what you said, I don’t think Bella stops growing at a certain point. Her growth is now in setting boundaries and learning to manage her chaos to be able to fit into a “polite” society while still keeping her identity. While sure she’s an adult, she still has a lot to learn in what being an adult means. It’s one thing to understand humanity, it’s another to be an active member within your community. She’s still in the same patriarchal world she’s always been in, the rules are the same. She just gets them now and finally gets a chance to play.
@FUN2SEE100 the entire movie is a feminist ideal told from a mans perspective of what can give a woman a feeling of strength. The second half of the movie is the same energy as the women's suffrage movement. Getting women into be allowed to university and be doctors. I don't exactly think that being a whore is ideal to being a feminist but taking control of ones sexual needs and control over their own body is an important aspect for some women to feel strong and independent of the expectations of society by men.
I loved this movie so much. Growing up in the 90s, where sex was everywhere, it's interesting that the biggest criticism of the film is its sex scenes. For me, the scenes were liberating, because they were about a woman with little choice finding choice and enjoying things only because she wanted to, not restricted by social norms or by negative views about her body.
Remember Bella was a newborn, about the time they started discussing her marriage she was developmentally around 4yo. This movie is sick.
@arkaadias2526 Pdfile grooming themes 🤢🤮
@@arkaadias2526 No, she wasn't. Where in the movie was her developmental age described?
I absolutely LOVED this movie. I saw it two days ago and I can't stop thinking about it.
Bro loves sex😨😨😨
She was around 4yo when they started to talk about having sexual relations with her
Very well said on the sexual themes. Did not have 'Film Drunk The Sex Guru' on my 2023 bingo card but here we are
This movie was "Island of Dr. Moreau" meets "Flowers for Algernon" with a little bit of Pygmalion, directed by Terry Gilliam and art direction by Jules Verne. I loved it.
Jonathan from TheFilmDrunk the type of guy to go “Well well well” when he sees his arch nemesis
Jonathan from TheFilmDrunk the type of guy to go "Holy macrole!" when he sees sex secenes
There is a lot of explicit scenes but it’s part of the story so I understand why it had to be included that way and I think we need to prepare to watch it with an open mind. I honestly enjoyed it because it was different from anything else I’ve watched recently but like you said, it does feel long (mostly toward the end).
Funny thing is I am planning on seeing this with my mom 😂
Oh no that'll be awkward lol.
@@brijanwilson1888 Thankfully my mom is cool with stuff like that. It would probably be worse if I went with my dad.
@@RobHeitorReviews For me it even felt weird watching these sex scenes with all the moaning and full nudity with strangers in the theater lol
@@brijanwilson1888nothing weird about it. People watch violence , murder , skull gore blast all over the screen these days. A couple of sex and moaning is completely normal
@@YorgosL1 problem is it ain't just a couple of sex and moaning lmao, I am so glad I watched this alone
Can’t wait to see this one after The Favourite. Are you also reviewing Koreeda’s Monster? Just saw it in theaters this weekend and want to hear your thoughts. Really liked it.
If yall remember the weirdest moments from Yorgos' other movies, well that ain't shit compared to Poor Things
Edward Scissorhands meets Frankenstein
Great analysis, almost everything you said I thought myself or can agree with
Strangely, this is the one movie this December i want to see.
Why strange?
The reason why gen z seems to have a problem with sex in movies is probably because they don't have any 😂
Gen Z isn’t the one only ones that complain lol
It's true. I just don't get why in the world of onlyfans, Gen z is so afraid of sex scene. With that being said euphoria seems to be popular with Gen z and that has lots of sex in ir
Wow, I know I am older, but I like to equate sex with actually caring or even loving the person you are having it with. I was a teenager and young adult during the free sex movement and I just think of sex as something other than an activity, like "making love". The movies with Emma Stone and Ryan Gosling get the idea across really well that Sebastian and Mia & Jacob and Hannah care and love each other and no one is nude. If all you want to see is sex with anyone with a penis or vagina then you are not talking about love.
@@TheClubOrtiz +++
I personally just think that many sex scenes feel empty. But sometimes it can be well done, like in The Handmaiden.
I loved Oppenheimer btw
What I’ll NEVER understand as a #BabylonForLifeLover myself is the vitriol Babs received for its “vulgar” or “outlandish” or (somehow) “offensive” amount of sex scenes, yet record the RT scores it got -
but THIS film (which I also love and am a #YorgosStan) blows Babs out the water (pun pretty much intended) in regards of “vulgarity” in sexual imagery and innuendo but it’s RT scores and general audience reception has been flagrantly more warmly received. #SelectiveOutrage
I truly believe Babylon hit some nerve in ppl that I think I get why…but truly will never understand.
See Poor Things for wholly original structure-busting cinema; watch Babylon because it’s simply amazing. Lol
At first I thought the film disappointed you since I had to CRTL + F it in your Letterboxd 2023 list.
Its very “born sexy yesterday” which is a trope when a beautiful female character has the naive mind of a child, doesnt know anything about the world, etc. and is also often sexualized or made the love interest
Yes. But in this move she was literally a child.
It's a pity that the sex scenes seem to take center stage when there are so many other elements of this film to focus on.
nice video bro.
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I find it irritating the way reviewers don't address the mental age difference between Bella and the Ruffalo character. You would disapprove of this relationship dynamic in real life so why is it cool in fiction?
AGREEEED
god forbid characters in a movie do amoral things
Finnally a person that aint sick in the head! I had to really look to see if anyone noticed that: once they start talking about her marriage and her having sexual relations, she was still only like 4years old mentally. Wth is wrong with people?
@@brrcsIn a movie, its all about presentation...choosing to write a movie about growing up and liberation through the horrors of constant molestation is one thing.
Imaging it in such a magical atmosphere is just a sick mind lining through their fantasies.
Welcome to Hollywood where molesters try to normalise what they do!
I've seen it twice and loved it as much the 2nd. It's fantastic!! Was there a lot of sex? Yes, but honestly some of those scenes were funny. I am so glad it's being recognized. As far as Best Actress goes I'm not sure since Lily Gladstone was so good.
So Emma Stone is not winning I take it
No.
I loved this movie! It is thought provoking. It is a very much a women’s liberation movie and how men have dominated and controlled the narrative.it comes out in a positive way in which Bella liberates herself.
Bella was a newborn in captivity and molested
POOR THINGs or FRANKENHOOKER left me so disappointed, and even more so, in the writer, Tony McNamara. The book does a better (not much, but better) job of handling this complex and problematic subject matter, not least of all by acknowledging that the story is told from a man's limited, unreliable point of view - in the case of the film, we must hope the audience sees that on its own. At one point on her two-week cruise of enlightenment, Bella says "if it is disgusting, why should I keep it in my mouth?" as she spits out her fancy dinner. She doesn't like it, she spits it out - she doesn't continue eating it, day in, day out, forever to see if she might feel differently about something she felt was disgusting. She actively expresses the disgust she feels when working as a prostitute, and yet she continues to do it, indefinitely, seemingly under the thumb of a madam who physically harms her. Then, bafflingly, she declares it a net-positive experience and the film plays it for laughs. SHE'S A WALKING CONTRADICTION! An unsocialized human would instinctually, as we have seen, run away from a negative experience that provokes disgust and pain. Spit out that disgusting thing. Yet she continues, even though she has the means to leave or work in literally any other field or explore any other part of society. She's supposedly wise enough from exposure to those two or three books, the token black person explaining suffering for a quick 2 minute aside, and that noble street performer's song, to understand socialism, but she doesn't understand the realities of prostitution? And why prostitution? If she's evolved to the status of a grown woman capable of consent, she should be able to function in society in any number of ways that are more enjoyable. Yet she chooses prostitution even though these experiences are not pleasurable or even consensual, and she vocalizes that multiple times. There's also never any concern for pregnancy, menstruation, disease, assault or really any female pleasure. Even the slightly more consensual (felt more like a pedophilic grooming fantasy to me...) scenes with Mark Ruffalo felt like anything I'd see in regular heteronormative p0rn - a distinctly male gaze with zero attention to the mechanics of female pleasure or orgasm. And if her goal was solely sexual pleasure, why not experiment as she does in the book, with partners of her choosing, instead of partners she openly finds disgusting? I reject the character motivations on face value because she contradicts her own stated instincts, feelings and logic. If this were a critique of how society, specifically patriarchy, funnels women into these situations and treated it with the seriousness sex work deserves, including the many potential harms to vulnerable women, then perhaps I could buy an attempt at a feminist message. But she insists that she likes it and suffers nothing, after describing her utter disgust. The lush setting almost glamorized the lifestyle of a sex worker and implied this somehow led to her self-actualization and freedom. But how exactly? And can we really even call these actions free if she's being physically and psychologically coerced by the madam? If not for God's illness, she would have continued as a prostitute and I still have no idea why - except to showcase more nudity and "shocking" sexual situations. Funny that the male author, male screenwriter and male director would believe that a woman's unsocialized, pure response to sexual awakening would be to focus it all on male fantasies and desires rather than her own. Ultimately, the initially promising premise of an unsocialized female being exploring the world without social constraint became an exploitative exercise in the male gaze where a woman's base instinct is to have unpleasurable sex with men for money. Poor Things reduces a woman's journey of self-actualization to twenty minutes of ''learning" and an hour plus of unenjoyable sex she doesn't fully consent to, with a tacked on faux feminist ending to absolve itself. Only with the threat of the (sadly, once real) clitoridectomy solution to her supposed mental health issues by her cartoon villain of a husband are we faced with a worse villain than the film itself - I guess I can praise it for pointing out that tragic historical fact. But it also weirdly positions this as the alternative to the much better life of "whoring." I think everyone is loving the pretty, shiny packaging, but even from a technical standpoint, the film feels all over the place. The cinematography is novel, but it's also inconsistent and gimmicky - throwing in every cinematic trick in the book, the black and white to color cliché, the fish eye lens, the peephole, the title cards, the actually-not-original-at-all steampunk aesthetic. I've seen it before and this feels very much style over substance, with an everything but the kitchen sink approach. Even Emma Stone's performance felt forced and over acted due to this screenplay's more childish cruel portrayal rather than the books more cheerful and loving persona of Bella which didn't feel anymore believable as she uneventfully matures towards the dreadful ending. I just wish the story was more worthy of Emma's talent.
There wasn’t that much sex. It’s intimate and satiating but not at all gratuitous. The story and scenery are the stars of this film.
You pointed out that Zone of Interest was inaccessible but act like the general audience will enjoy it. bullshit
Agree with most but as FUN2SEE100 said she does continue to grow and change but at a slightly slower rate due to her increasing maturity. And, I would disagree with your rating. 5 not 4 and I believe it should have won best picture. Oppenheimer was a great movie, this was just better.
Extremely shallow and derivative.
I really wanted to see "Poor Things" when I first saw the trailer and I love Emma Stone and Mark Ruffalo, until I started seeing early reviews about what exactly was needed to show true female sexual liberation, which required freedom from any kind of shame, with rauchiness and horniness.
A MAN wrote the book, a MAN wrote the screenplay, a MAN directed it, but I am really disappointed that Emma Stone, as producer went along with it.
I'm old enough to be Emma's grandmother and I went through the sexual revolution as a teenager and young adult and the discriptions I have heard about the movie from reviewers and directors and stars is something I have heard before. Well, if you are really liberated then you will do this or try that otherwise you are not liberated. The author of the book is dead, but the other two seem to be insisting that the entire world should see their idea of actual liberation and Emma, if she is librated should be willing to do that.
It doesn't really help describing the closed set with only 3 or 4 people other than the actors on the set, because today could be millions watching it. We can bet on how long it will be before the clips of just this part of the movie are all over the internet, "See Emma at her Oscar winning rauchiest." My guess is it could happen the day after the official opening because there are some really good camera phones out there and I worked in a really big theater when "Magic Mike" and "Fifty Shades of Gray" came out. The part that really bothers me is someday all kinds of little classmate will be saying, "Wow, have you seen this, it is their mother."
I've read like 15 reviews of this movie. It's a man's take on feminism. Men are cool with feminism as long as it teaches women that submitting to men is a necessary step to liberation.
I’m a man and honestly I found the material to be kind of disturbing. What I got from it was Emma Stone’s character can only “experience” what the world has to offer through sex.
In my opinion, there is more to life than just sex.
@@themtgdude486agree!!
I think some of it is in the eye of the beholder and what the viewer sees onscreen. It’s a lot of sex and nudity but upon reflection, I didn’t find it pornographic - “you know it when you see it” - I found it to be art. We all have and want sex, it’s part of life and growth, development.. to experience it without shame? Judgment? Lucky Bella Baxter to have that much! I’m looking forward to reading the book to see what more gets explored that there wasn’t time/space for in the movie. I loved this film and found it absolutely gorgeous and true to the wild experience of finding one’s self in this journey called life.
@@maryjaneshoe-fm4yr +++++, Finally someone has spoken! This movie is garbage
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Better than Oppenheimer 💯
Don't exaggerate, I don't believe you are that, you need to be more accepting of yourself.
I am sure this movie will be pure nuts, like his previous ones. Disturbingly absurd but so interesting. I think i am going to love it even if i hate it.
Probably the worst music I’ve heard in a film in a very long time.
i thought it was cool
@@val3ntin1122 score was incredible, throwing shade on it is crazy
It was supposed to be unsettling
I liked it alot it fit the abstracting and absurd scenery. really felt like somebody from the silent movie and I got dragged 100 years to direct a movie with all the technological updates
When he said he liked "the world building" I clicked off. That's what delusional Star Wars fans say about dog 💩 shows like Book of Boba Fett.