MAESTRO: Oscar Bait or Cinematic Achievement?
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bradley cooper maestro movie review okay lets go
carey mulligan still great
leonard bernstein wow 
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The cathedral scene did not feature Bernstein's music. It was Gustav Mahler's Symphony No. 2. Bernstein was a celebrated interpreter of Mahler's music. I find it fascinating that two major Hollywood movies about conductors chose to prominently feature a Mahler symphony, as _Tár_ heavily incorporated Mahler's 5th into its plot.
The parallels between Mahler and Bernstein are very interesting as well - Mahler was both a conductor and composer, but had a relatively limited output compared to many of his contemporaries. In his time, both his compositions and his conducting style were criticized or even laughed at for being too showy/flamboyant/maximalist (for example, in this cartoon en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mahlercartoon_1907.jpg). And though I don't know anything about Mahler's sexuality, he grew up Jewish in 1800s central Europe, and anti-Semitism persistently plagued his public life even after he eventually converted to Catholicism. He frequently composed pieces with overtly Christian narratives (including the Resurrection symphony shown in Maestro), but would sometimes thread Jewish/Yiddish musical styles into his works.
I doubt these parallels played a direct part in Cooper's choice to include a Mahler piece, though it's certainly possible that they influenced the real Bernstein's interest in Mahler. In any case - as previously stated, Mahler's music was not especially well-received during his lifetime, and was banned in Nazi Germany due to Mahler's Jewish heritage. One of Bernstein's most important contributions as a conductor was helping to revive Mahler's legacy through live & recorded performances, and I do think Cooper including a Mahler piece in the film is a great way to honor that contribution.
And actually Birdman profoundly featured Mahler's 9th as a significant morality muse .
operafresh.blogspot.com/2014/10/mahler-gets-appearance-in-birdman-scene.html
Ethan Hawke should have won for first reformed Oscar 2019
love Hawke, hated the movie
First Reformed deserved so much more than it got
Well, that would have been very strange, considering he wasn't nominated.
There are times when Bradley Cooper’s face looks positively demonic in this film. Really quite scary. He reminded me of the hobo behind the diner in Mulholland Drive, just a bit cleaner.
LOL
Having not seen Maestro but loves Mulholland Drive, this is gonna make me wanna watch Maestro.
@@rickycollins7723 Silencio.🤫
Rami Malek is such a strange actor. I’ve never seen a movie where I’m like “oh thank GOD Rami Malek is in it!” Everything I’ve seen him in I’m like: oh…it’s Rami
He is a very good actor. His small role in Oppenheimer was great, but his performance in Mr. Robot and even The Pacific are much better representatives of his talent.
he just stares with those popped out eyes all the time
Hahaha I forgot he was on Oppenhaimer 😂 love Rami though
He was so bad in that James Bond movie
But why does that make him strange?
honestly the film is a struggle to get through..... it is not interesting...... at least to me.
first movie I've walked out of in a long time - totally pretentious and an insult to true music lovers
Carey is my choice for Best Actress. I loved her performance 😊
Bradley Cooper has been nominated for 12 Oscars. And has won 0. And it’s driving him crazy. He wants that Oscar so much.
He's the new Leonardo lol
Bradley Cooper was at the screening of this movie I saw and he explained pretty well why he jumped around so much and it really made me change my opinion about how the film was structured. He said when it was being written they quickly realized that anything that did not have to do with Felicia and Leonards marriage had to go. Knowing this it really helped me see that the film isnt really a biopic at all and that it is focused but not on his life but their relationship. Also because of how the film ends Felicia is really the star here for me and in some ways from her perspective. The shot with her in his shadow summerizes that for me. Just some thoughts, curious to see how it does in awards!
Of course it's a biopic; he's playing Leonard Bernstein. Yes, Felicia's very important. But the picture was made because of Leonard Bernstein.
@@blanchefan I mean in terms of its structure, it doesnt list off every accomplishment in his life and really doesnt focus on his music other than scenes that involve her.
@@blanchefan Ahem. It was made because of Bradley Cooper.
Ur exactly right
I saw it and think it might have made more sense to call it Leonard and Felicia. Or maybe Felicia (and Leonard)!
Having studied with Leonard Bernstein at Tanglewood in 1985 and also being a scholar of Mahler, this film and Cooper's portrayal was so intense, my first viewing of the film left me anxious that I'd melt into a puddle of emotion. It was so spot-on, so intense, so authentic, I was there with Lenny.
And let me tell you... the conducting was absolute and so damn hard to do. There's never been such an authentic conducting performance by an actor on film. I've performed for Bernstein, Ozawa and many others - and this just isn't something you can hack over 2-3 months and execute.
Cooper really wants that Oscar. Felt lil too on the nose. Only saving grace was Carey Mulligan’s performance.
Speaking of nose... hehe sorry I had to.
I tried to watch maestro twice, failed both times .. I just couldn’t buy it
It’s bloody awful.
He seems to gravitate towards music films.
why did they make him look like Bela Lugosi??? Sorry, I couldn't stop laughing a few times. Then he shows up as George Hamilton, who once received an honorary degree from the International Smart Tan Network... Oh well, there were a few snazzy lines like something about him becoming an old queen! She steals the show, if you ask me...
Jonathan from TheFilmDrunk the type of guy to say “hello is anyone there?” When he enters a haunted house
Oscar bait
My biggest bone to pick with actors-turned-directors is them starring in the films they’re directing. I dislike it. It feels egotistical & phony to me.
Clearly an amazing, incredible work of art.
Oddly, for such a masterpiece it bore me to death... and I've always found Bernstein fascinating and something of a genius.
I really can't review Maestro.
Last year I watched Tar. I absolutely HATED it.
Twenty minutes into Maestro, I bailed. I couldn't do it.
It was too much like rewatching Tar. I just shut it off.
I simply couldn't summon the patience to sit through it.
Other people can decide if it was good or not.
(BTW, I actually like Bradley Cooper, which is why I started to watch Maestro to begin with.)
Hmm... a lock on the Oscar? Have you heard of a little film called Oppenheimer? Of course the Oscars are notoriously unpredictable. Btw, I like your enthusiasm-- :)
The Oscar’s are notoriously… predictable!! I’ve seen odds leaders win time and time again over the years… it’s free money if you can fork over a sizable wager.
Godzilla Minus One?
Carey Mulligan Best Actress of the Year
Amazing intro
John Cho is super underrated in Searching and should have been nominated over Rami Malek.
If were talking about musical Biopic, Amadeus is no question the best one so far.
I loved it more the second time I watched it!
I grew up with Bernstein being a household word who represented the fine arts and education of the public about classical music. And that was above and beyond his musical accomplishments. None of what made him truly beloved by the public was in this movie. Also, Cilian Murphy is winning the Oscar. Duh
His acting was great portraying Berstein yet the movie was not about Berstein rather Felicia or love story. Hopefully different version of Berstein will be made. I want to see how he connected with Marlet music or his collaboration of making Westside story with other artists so on. He is a musically legend, and movie didnt do the justice
BOTH.
Why never both?
Very important not to look at Felicia's character through a 2023 lens. She was no victim, she knew from the beginning who he really was, she sort of accepted it. A lot of men and women did in those times where you had to live a lie to please the wider society. Being around his genius was a gift in itself.
Uh, they still do. It's just that the primary appearance of being in a heterosexual marriage with children takes precedence.
Exactly
Beautifully and perfectly said!
I found it interesting how many characters really struggled to understand Leonard’s sexuality beyond the binary of straight/gay, as would have been the main language available to most people at the time. I never really felt that she was unwillingly his “beard;” although she may have been somewhat uncomfortable with his attraction to men at times, it seemed clear to her that they had genuine love for each other.
Nobrainer comment
Steve Jobs was so good. No one saw it
I found the first hour and a half bored me from the lack of conflict or any drama or real substance.
Very good analysis and I mostly agree. But, respectfully, I think you’re confusing composer versus conductor at times.
I could see this movie winning a Golden Globe for Best Motion Picture for a Drama.
I highly doubt it would beat out Oppenheimer and Killers of the Flower Moon.
@@laurajones1773 Everything Everywhere was beaten by Banshees at the Golden Globes for Comedy or Musical and Oppenheimer or Killers for that matter, will not win.
@@quintonposs3286 I’m hoping for an Oppenheimer sweep. Nothing comparable this year. 🤞for Murphy.
@@mgariepy42 Me too, but the best chance for a sweep is either BAFTA or the Oscars.
The Globes love Martin McDounaugh.
Completey agree. Good film. Spots of greatness. But not wholly great. Still a very good effort by cooper and an enjoyable film overall.
you need to clean your wall
Oh, the Rami Malek win... I'm never letting that one go either.
Tbh, I didn't think "Maestro" was disjoined at all - the flow of it kind of reminded me of "La La Land". But ouch, a 3.5 from you hurts me a little, considering other ratings you gave this year.
You and Jonathan need to have a boxing match
@@TheClubOrtiz that’s…. quite an escalation
@@ImpressionBlend 🥺👉👈
You know..we still need a video idea to collab on👀😂
@@TheFilmDrunk that’s what I’m saying!
Maestro is utterly incredible, majestic and mesmerising.
I just can't understand the criticisms.
Pure bait. Miss me with this tryhard attempt.
Tell me you don’t understand film without telling me you don’t understand film
Bernstein was an incredible composer. Too little focus on the music in the film. Lead characters were irritating and in the end I had no empathy for them. Carey Mulligan asking Bradley Cooper to speak his truth was just so inauthentic. That would never have been a phrase in the 1970s. Beautiful visuals but a very episodic portrayal of a composer where the music played such a small role in the film. It was disappointing- best part was seeing real Bernstein conduct at the end - he was phenomenal.
Bohemian Rhapsody: 918 million box office. Rami won the Oscar
Joker: 1 billion box office: Joaquin won the Oscar
Oppenheimer: 950 million box office. Cillian Murphy is going to win the Oscar.
It would make total sense
And the Academy HATES Netflix 😂😂
But they awarded a Apple TV+ movie Best Picture.
Saying Academy hates Netflix is literally not true lol
@@quintonposs3286 you mean CODA? That was not an Apple tv+ original, they bought it for cheap out from a festival and had the exclusive copyright for distribution
@@TheClubOrtiz well, no Netflix original movie has won Best Picture yet. You tell me then...
@@monicamerle1417 ok, it has won a lot of other categories…including Director and a bunch of techs as well as an acting win for Laura Dern. If they didn’t like Netflix they wouldn’t nominate their movies, use critical thinking next time
To clarify for Me, the movie was NOT 100% boring - I just struggled sustaining my interest because it dealt more with Lenny’s negatives. (Homosexuality/cheating) than his music, composition, etc. The way he treated his wife overshadowed his accomplishments. Yes, it’s a family & marital drama but it had NO JOY in it-- just lots of “smoking” & mumbling with changing accents as the decades went by.
I was also hoping a glimpse of the process of how to get a musical or orchestral work financed & staged (even a *brief* scene on that) to BALANCE the tension & marital strife.
To me he came across as unsympathetic & self-indulgent by not explaining or having a scene getting into his mind why he was attracted to men - he just came off as a creepy predator especially towards the end “with the young conductor”.
Yes, the acting was no question BRILLIANT, so were the costumes/set pieces, cinematography, & editing, & directorial style. CARY MULLIGAN SHINES in this movie & you empathize & sympathize with what she had to go through. The rest of the cast is brilliant. BRADLEY COOPER, I sometimes feel he “tries too hard” to get that Oscar nod. One cannot help but feel him thinking, “I’m gonna WIN that Oscar this time.”
But I laud the man’s obvious love, passion, & dedication to his craft.
So people will leave, thinking that Mr. Bernstein’s an a-hole (& that gays are bad & home wreckers) with how he treated his wife & family to pursue his musical career/dreams - NOT the kind of legacy you’d like to LEAVE about a very COMPLEX, COMPLICATED, & VERY TALENTED & BRILLIANT MAN.
Again, was BRILLIANT from an ARTISTIC, DIRECTORIAL, & ACTING standpoint. But as far as BEING MOVED, EMOTIONALLY INVESTED, & UNDERSTANDING MORE about Leonard Bernstein’s LIFE (especially for those NOT theatre or symphony-inclined will not get a full picture of the Man’s Life/Career) - I felt EMPTY & a BIT BORED for something “HEARTFELT to happen”… it felt COLD & STERILE.
Yes, it was a well-executed movie from a production standpoint. And the Direction is by-the-numbers ala Scorsese & Spielberg brilliant - but it LACKED HEART. I wanted to LOVE IT & see it all over again, but ONCE WAS ENOUGH.
It’s a GLORIFIED “DOCUMENTARY”.
IT WAS A FEAST FOR THE EYES BUT IT LACKED “A SATISFYING EMOTIONAL PAYBACK” FOR ME AS AN AUDIENCE.
I can't find the right words to describe your writing style, but I feel stupid for reading for as long as I did.
This is the best review best and most accurate review yet.
Not that great kjnda boring
I hope wins Bradley Cooper for this year
I don't really like the movie because it's the same thing, he's talented and becomes famous, he got a great wife and family but he's gay, and that's it lol
For me,the best A Star is Born of all,is Judy Garland's,period.Barbra's is ok and Bradley Cooper's is a desaster,much because of Lady Gaga who,after that became an unbearable artist which,for me,ruined her singer career,because of the "actress" arrogance and cocky attitudes towards media in general.Maestro must be a Masterpice.
Will people please stop the Rami Malek hate ,he won the Oscar get over it! I'm hyped for Maestro to come out.
I’ll NEVER get over the Bradley snub
@@brendon.officialhe wasn't snubbed, he was nominated. Snubbing would have been them not bothering to nominate him.
Great review! For me, this is a 5/5 movie definitely could see Best Picture nomination even a win, and definitely Best Actor!!
All that belongs to Openheimer
Don't you just love RUclipsrs who buy an expensive mic and totally blow the levels by not monitoring them. All the gear but no idea.
I don’t mean to sound patronizing, but I think you truly will see the marriage differently when you’re older. It’s not that she settles into that trope; it’s that she starts to, for a while there, and then… something beyond the politics of that emerges. And the implications for Lenny are truly gutting, when he realizes all he’s missed about her w his shenanigans, and how he can’t recover it.
Do you mind me asking as a younger viewer for a deeper explanation on this comment?
He is a movie critic in the best tradition of the Great ones...
he is clear, knowledgeable, smart, honest, and quite young! Yes, there is cinematic wisdom, very rare in today's mediocrity. Bravo for him.
Quite young? - he's 48 years old.
I thought it was great film with 2 excellent leads.
I agree that this is probably Oscar bait. They didn't do the research necessary to determine if Bernstein was a good subject matter. Bernstein was doing a dramatic acting routine, jumping up and down like a clown. He was not doing his job as a conductor, which is to show the audience what the symphony sounds like. I posted a video on my RUclips channel showing how he took a wrecking ball to Beethoven's symphonies manipulating the sound to make whole sections sound noisy and terrible. The press treated him like a sacred cow. Everything he touched turned to gold, even though his conducting included vandalism.
I like your review but I am not sure why your video edits are so rushed. It sounds like you are desperately afraid people will stop watching so the editing leaves not a millisecond gap and no chance for a normal pause. It is like you are afraid to take a "breath" in between lest we turn away. The result is it doesn't allow us to relax with your insights. Maybe that Is the new trendy way to present these. But it is the strength of your critique that should make us want to listen and watch.
Yes the film dies a disservice to Bernstein"s contribution to our culture and his extraordinary musicality by focusing on his private life soley in this film. Too much. And not relevant enough. It us not the reason we. CARE about him. I don't care if he came from Jupiter or Mars. What he did while here should be seen and celebrated. ."Shallow" should have been written to describe this film.
Thirsty Oscar bait backedup by crazy gaga fans
The movie is a masterpiece. Those who need to be spoon-fed will be challenged by it. Cooper deserves best actor award and movie could easily be best pic. Way better than Oppenheimer or the idiotic Barbie. Milligan will be nominated, for sure.
“Those who need to be spoon fed”. Oh, the irony. You mean the highly suggestible people who called this a masterpiece before they saw it because of talent involved and because the people who have produced it have marketed it as such? Some of us can see this for what it is, tedious Oscar fodder of the highest order, bad aging make-up where the daughter looks older than the mother; garbled overlapping chain-smoking dialogue; zero narrative pace. He’s a badly closeted gay man and she dies. That’s really all that happens during this exercise of Cooper’s self-indulgence literally begging for awards recognition. Yeah, you like it, but respect the legitimate views of people who think it’s hideous. There’s a reason it sunk without trace on Netflix after a day.
I think Bradley Cooper is going to sweep best actor all season long
Yeah, let's just pretend Cillian Murphy and Oppenheimer don't exist 😂
He’s excellent. But Cillian Murphy’s performance is extraordinary. 🙏 The Academy doesn’t award Cooper BA bcuz he’s a sentimental favorite. I give you last year: Yeoh was wonderful, but the best performance was Blanchett’s. Every year I feel the Academy Awards are less and less credible. I look at the BAFTAs. They do it right. (Except they denied Farrell. I guess they didn’t want Banshees to do a total sweep ☺️) I hope Oppenheimer does sweep. Best film we have seen in decades.
@@mgariepy42the opinion that the BAFTAs was wrong because they didn’t choose Farrell shows that one opinion does not validate
And an extraordinary performance, NO PROSTHETICS NEEDED !!!@@Phil_Mitchell
I think Michelle Yeoh was better than Cate Blanchett. Yeoh had more to do in her movie than Blanchett in Tar. Cate Blanchett was more robbed of an Oscar win for Elizabeth. I think that's her best performance. She lost to a weak, melodramatic performance from Gwyneth Paltrow from Shakespeare in Love.
Really...the Rami hate?
Triple chin.
A very pathetic review or whatever you were babbling about.
Maestro sucked. So boring. So slow. And the cigarette smoking was 100x more distracting than the nose prosthetic. The prop person needed to be fired, clove cigarette fumes shouldn’t be so heavy.
He definitively did NOT get "robbed!!!" Rami Malek was extraordinary as Freddie Mercury !!!
Rami Malek is not that good in Bohemian Rhapsody. His performance is more of an impersonation of Freddie Mercury.
@@laurajones1773Why are you so agressive and angry because a person on the net said that he/she liked Rami and his performance ? 😂😮My God ..
To each to their own I don’t rate Bohemian Rhapsody
@@Elena-ht7kuI wouldn’t say aggressive or angry the person just stating their own opinion on the film 🤣