The New Global Economy | Hasanabi Reacts to Johnny Harris
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- Опубликовано: 19 дек 2023
- Hasan Piker reacts to Johnny 'CIA' Harris explaining the global trade process and how the US does it versus how other countries (like China) are doing it wrong!
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If the CIA isn't paying Johnny Harris to make this kind of stuff, it might as well be considered wage theft at this point.
Counter: Why pay him when he says exactly the same things as any other military dude ,patriot", or any other neo liberal shill like Sam Harris or Steven Pinker. Americans do this for free.
@@alvodin6197That's the joke behind their "wage theft" bit.
Lol
Him plus SerpentZA and Laowhy86 tbh
Tell me why you're against globalization? The one thing that has drastically reduced poverty the last 250 years.
It's weird how his description of capitalism is so vague... concept of trade was always a thing throughout history. In the past China peaked in economic power closed itself off at some point because they no longer needed products from outside of their country due to their own productive capacity. People have forgotten about the silk road it seems.
By end of Ming dynasty, China could've probably started the industrial revolution if it wasn't for the wars with Japan, Manchu and Tibetan empire which drained it's military, economy, and caused political oppurtunists to try and take seats of power.
you are right beisides it always build a connect with capitalism and free trade its a trap our country didn't open the maket at the begining because if you don't have the industry foundations your economic will be easy to contral by the developed one open the maket is a easy choice but we do the hard one every Chinese student konw this point those why our economic growth so fast and take safe control not just because free trade and open but also our industry foundations we won't sell sovereignty again like past
17:48 Absolutely wild that Johnny looked at the post WWII period and said that it transformed the lives of those in Vietnam and Chile as if it were a positive thing. I can't believe he said that, holy shit.
Edit: Holy shit Johnny praises "policy" for global prosperity without every mentioning the exploitation of nations, the destabilization of nations, and the legalization of third world slavery. That is wild.
Yo you mean what China is doing in Africa ?? And what the Middle East was doing when building the World Cup stadiums ?? Cool.
@@Joshsg17 The legalization of slavery in Africa was a US Supreme Court decision, and it was a bad thing, just like it's always bad when you force people out of their homes and ruin their lives for spectacle.
Now, I'm sure you can also agree that Johnny was entirely wrong in the areas I brought up?
@@Joshsg17why ?? do you put a space before your question marks ??
@@Joshsg17 Are China doing wars and/or planning coups like the US did to Vietnam and Chile respectively? I don’t think so.
Truly terrifying propaganda that was. We here in south america were irreparably fucked by CIA backed coups all over. Allende is actually one of the saddest ones for the wasted potential.
Why do people think communism is anticommerce
Because communists consistently present their ideas in a way where that's a logical conclusion
Because if they don’t, that would mean they’re getting ripped off!
I don't know if he's beating the CIA allegations after this one...
Idk if Hasan is beating them China paid propagandist allegations after this one...
I think ppl say that everytime he makes a video lmao
@@acid4413After *almost every video. His recent-ish videos on Somali pirates and the Iraq war were not as heavy on US state propaganda, as I've come to expect from him. Which was a real change, imo, especially given the fact that I haven't watched many of the rest of his new videos. So, maybe this really is just a return to form for Johnny CIA, and he isn't going to fight the allegations any more, or at least he isn't going to do that with his content. Tho, either way his content is still worth watching, at the very least, for showing the liberal perspective to people like me, who aren't from the US, and don't have direct contact with it.
One love ❤️
Johnny doesn’t defend China like a tankie ? CIA !!!’
@@boyankovachev7982US state propaganda is saying something that doesn’t fit into your narrative of US always bad and China always good ?
Speaking from the Australian perspective. More mining companies in Australia does absolutely fuck all to protect us from global supply chains. We still rely on other countries for basically everything else. All this will do is make the rich mining corporations and their shareholders richer, while continuing to destroy our environment.
@@lynxsphynx9787bro he said these corporations are getting richer, obviously has nothing to do with bitcon
Lmao 13:50 he says “millions lifted out of poverty thanks to the magic of the market”. You mean… their labor? 😂
Wow man thanks for telling me they needed to work hard to get out of poverty very unknown knowledge you slapped on the table
@@GeinoLinking-zc6ed you type like you got fat ass fingers brodie
DID HE SKIP COLONIALISM AND HOW IT MADE GLOBALISM
Crazy to put Chile on that list when people were being ultra exploited and if they even said a peep about it they would disappear or take a helicopter ride
Lmfao at 6:49 when talking about ethical reacts, a chatter says "I already support his videos through my taxes" 💀💀💀
MF said Chile 💀 Johnny 'Pinochet' Harris at 18 minutes sth
Johnny Harris is outright wrong about the post-WW2 economy. The world economy wasn't dollarized at Bretton Woods by the US "and it's allies", it was dollarized by the US unilaterally. The main negotiating partner was Britain, led by Keynes, who advocated instead for a universal, nationless bancor reserve currency that would be controlled by a UN-style committee, not the US unilaterally. It was a power play.
Second, the US emphatically did NOT open trade so that global cheap labor could be hired. That is so, so, so, so, so absolutely 100% the opposite of true. Just flat wrong. Bretton Woods implemented strict capital controls that made exproporiating capital extremely difficult. The entire purpose of this was to force winners TO INVEST AT HOME. It was the 100% polar opposite of what he said, global labor was locked down on purpose so that the poorest in nations like the US would reap the benefits from growth.
That was the single principle reason the middle class and poorest in the west got so rich in the mid 20th century. global trade was relaxed but global CAPITAL was highly restricted. It wasn't until the 1970s that capital controls were loosened, and the 1970s/80s is exactly the time frame that middle class wealth stopped improving.
Johnny Harris is a propagandist, plain and simple.
The CIA Allegations were proved in the Henry Kissinger video lol jk
Wait, what did he say?
@@QuestionsIAskMyself I’m just kidding.
He said "I met Henry multiple times when I was working for a think tank, and we ve studied him" @@QuestionsIAskMyself
Johnny Harris is becoming PragerU without overt bigotry and better After Effects skills.
26:00 you’ll get a better sense of awareness across for Chilean 9/11 by just saying “Google Cybersyn”.
34:26 Also, capitalists will pander for hawkish geopolitics between the U.S. and China because it stokes economic competition through nationalistic protectionism. They are promoted as enemies to ensure domestic production is kicked into high gear, it is mutualistic in exchange.
Great video, but when will Americans begin to understand that individual EU countries DO NOT negotiate their trade (E.g. why Merkel told to Trump, I'm sorry I don't negotiate trade, it's the duty of the EU). The entire customs union acts as one. The visuals in this video make it seem somehow like Germany, France and other EU countries are putting in place their own protectionist and isolationist policies, and tariffs, while they simply cannot do that - it's an exclusive competence of the EU. This was also the reason why Brexit needed to happen BEFORE any trade talks started because EU couldn't have trade talks with its own member state. I'm sorry Johnny, but he is supposed to be a professional and it's been decades since the formation of the EU, it's the world's second largest economy and contributor in trade, so I wish people would finally start presenting this accurately. Also taken that into account at the free trade agreements in the works between EU, Australia and various South-American countries, there is definitely a big player that doesn't follow this US & China-like isolationist approach.
"The European Union (EU) is a customs union, which means that all EU countries are obligated to take the same tariffs and apply the same import restrictions. The EU is therefore represented by the EU Commission in all international trade negotiations and member states cannot negotiate their own trade deals with third countries"
who cares at u europoors
Thanks for posting, I only made it about halfway through when it was live.
Idk if Harris is actually an asset or if he's just terminally American, but either way the result is the same. The man appears completely incurious -- allergic even to entertaining any perspective or information coming from anywhere besides US intuitional officials.
once u learn that his background is former Mormon, it explains everything about his mentality
This 😊😊😊😊😊p😅😊😊😊😊😊😊😊oh yeah and 😊
@@longzeng wait what does that mean
@@BitmaidMormons are sub human
He's a similar liberal to Destiny. As in he thinks that U.S institutions function as stated and as originally intended. They combine this with a dogmatic and uncritical deference to expertise. Any analysis of ulterior motives, material interest, or motivated reasoning is viewed as conspiratorial. They are empiricist, which in a vacuum is great, but in the context of a State; Wherein a ruling class of people use institutions and ideology to maintain their position in society, essentially means that any competent State or ruling class can delay or obfuscate inconvenient information. But these people truly believe the institutions are neutral and objective in pursuit of their stated purpose.
For example, by the metrics that liberals like these use, government atrocities are only not conspiracy theories after the freedom of information process is used decades after the fact.
germany politically is such a shit fucking show
Even worse is that their incompetence is dragging the whole of Europe down because of their oversized influence in the EU
True F the afd
Bro that was quick I got off the stream a few hours ago and already you’ve uploaded it, good job
God I hate Johnny Harris
When I see a new video from Jonny that seems to be CIA Harris, I just wait for Hasan's reaction video to watch it with a proper commentary.
Proper commentary my ass
You're doing yourself a disservice, this Hasan guy is a moron
read a book
@@poplui I can't read
Johnny desperately needs to read “profit over people” by Noam Chomsky
Maybe he has, I've read several of his books but just I haven't bought into his cult of personality maybe it's the same for Johnny Boy.
Shout out to everyone watching here and not on the bot channel
Bot channel?
@@noorlita HasanAbi Reacts To is a bot channel that copyright strikes other channels, uses botted likes and has been trying to create a monopoly. They have been destroying the complex and they are the reason why so few channels exist any more. They buy a new channel every time they get clapped so that might not be the most recent channel name any more tho
@@noorlitahasanabi reacts to is a bot channel. One of many, they always put in the description of the channel an email to hasanabi capital. You can also tell by looking at the channel's oldest videos. Bot channels are rebranded channels that start posting Hasan content. They don't edit the vods either.
China has been out pacing the US in many ways. The US is slowly realizing/being forced to admit we are lagging behind. Rather than allow China to focus on green tech,the US wants to jump on the bandwagon. If not in deed at least in word. They also made a lot of posturing about Microchips. We don't produce enough compared to China. We should be working together but you know, country and their Leaders gonna flex their crusty egos.
How much you produce doesn’t matter it’s about the market value.
China wants to shift to producing expensive products too this is the source of the conflict
I feel like it comes down to the power balance between capitalist banks funding US thats using one hand to buy the electronics, oil and other natural resources where there is a clear advantage on the euro-dollar, upheld by the banking system that does have a history of crusading, slavery, white supremacy and a strong anti-communist and anti-socialist agenda enforced through CIA and the global power their military has. AND the other hand to hit those "the west" has labeled as enemies through the war on drugs, war on terror and cold war. That usually are those who have historically suffered opression and keep getting suppressed for things like speaking uncomfortable historical truths about how did this "white" america achieve its overpowered position, or for the great crime of resisting the global agenda it enforces, for cultural of whatever reason.
And in this equation we often see "black" muslims and other non-whites suffering, if not so much from whites-only areas that are, thank god, mainly a historical phantom that is illegal, but we do see the idea every now and then, like in israel being declared jew-only a variation of this racist policy. Then its from the slow progression away from straight slavery towards equality and human rights as laid down by UN after ww2. And we do see this violent exploitation enacted on the uighurs, palestinians, mid eastern people, brazilians, as is the racist legacy of slavery still causing capitalism to operate. And we can see the slow progression when looking at the workers rights in places like Foxconn factories, the mining suppliers in congo etc that are getting better, but are far from the the utopia we desperately need. A world where genders and races are equal without systematic oppression, as the laws demand and are supposed to enforce, if we believe the white europeans will be the savior instead of slaver this time.
Modern Microchips wouldn't be possible without certain Taiwanese, German and Dutch companies
@@K2ELP do you mean dutch east india company?
indeed, they finally were able to produce the ball point of a pen in 2013@@K2ELP
The USSR did free trade too! Just with the countries that were "allowed" to trade with them freely which essentially mean other communist countries.
That’s just insane to frame this like the USSR was the victim of the US, the USSR literally colonized half of Europe, why would we trade with a country that want to colonize us ?
That’s mind blowing how you defend colonial and imperial power just cause it’s not on the side of the west
@@ni9274my brother what the hell are you talking about?
@@ni9274 u are chronically, seek help, take this L
@@ni9274Wow, thats crazy. I'm sure there were no other colonial powers at the time. And even then, the US did everything in its power to destroy or if thats wasnt possible, isolate any country that dared sway to the left (containment strategy). Socialist chile, replaced with neo-lib dictator, democratic Iran that wanted to nationalize certain industries, replaced with megalomaniac Shah, Afghan communist party, replaced with Mujahadeen (Taliban), and the list continues...
@@deathdrone6988Don't forget what the US did and is still doing to Cuba.
8:32 CIA Harris cuts out comrade Josef Stalin
I hope unlearning economics also watches the video and makes a 10h reaction, would be fun as hell.
Are they any good? Had them pop up in my feed but haven't given it a watch yet
He is a moron.
@@noneofurbusiness906 He's an actual economist. Maybe not as entertaining as Hasan, but certainly more informative.
53:06
chinese people often shit on the government on WeChat anyways and nothing happens lmao
Not true
I agree with that, many of my relatives who live in the mainland have done that and none of them got arrested by the authorities, but one of my uncles did get their account suspended temporarily (they didn’t get warnings from the police tho). I doubt the government has time to deal with random internet users, it really only cares about people who are gaining political traction
@@persivySo why would I, as an American, want to live like insects in china where the government comes and locks me up for speaking truth to power if enough people listen to me. You realize if Hasan was Chinese he wouldn’t be allowed to have this channel in China. Doesn’t this hypocrisy get tiring for fanboys ?
@@MMMMMMMMMMMPWhat's your opinion on Alex Jones being punished for his free speech?
@@LOL-zu1zryea dude China monitors every single one of the billions of people that live there and puts them in reeducation camps. Bro the US can't even monitor its citizens that are obviously going to shoot up a school you think China can monitor its much larger population better than the US and take action against the smallest amount of dissent? You honestly have a better opinion of China than I do you seem to think they are 100 years in the future or something
You can’t mention how coastal entrepreneurship absorbed surplus labor from rural without mentioning the human capital needed to thrive. The development under Mao is the deciding factor as to why chinas “capitalism” worked out the way it did vs the way it worked in India. (Government structure also a deciding factor)
Deciding factor was famine that killed 50 million
@@DoneDealAC okay and how did that affect rural human development
@@DoneDealAC fucking 15 year olds 😂
Yes, because melting pots and other home utensils to create pig iron was a great success in pushing for industrialization 😂
@@aleef133 roads and infrastructure is bad for industrialization to u
Did he give capitalism credit for “trade” and trade is what made us advance from animals?
Yes lmao. I love when neolibs say that shite. Like, yeah, we totally just magically already have things to trade, and absolutely nothing happens before trade does. Absolutely braindead.
Hasan react videos always feel like the cool sub who would show us a movie we weren't suppozssed to watch.
I hope Jharry is okay. It can be deadly to dislocate a jaw with that much sucking.
Hasan needs to address the elephant in the room which is racism towards asian people that has a ridiculously long history in the west. Its why the us is so offended and angered by china as they were about japan.
@@gaius_octaviusModel minority doesn't mean what you think it means. Racism and even violence against Asian people is the norm and acceptable and Asian people are regularly dehumanized and treated as NPC's. The disparity of outmarriage between Asian men and women is another sign not of love but hate, especially since WMAF in particular has colonial historical context. Those kids going to come out Asian looking and have to deal with the racism towards Asian people in society, whether they like it not.
Vietnam
Chile
The Kissinger list it seems
By the way, during the beginning of tall this, who had the fastest growing economy of all of history? The soviet union. A little bit to leave out, I guess.
CHILE MENTIONED !!!
VAMO CTMMM SIIIUIIIII
cia harris back at it again
that free trade remark made me audibly laugh.
By the way, the globalisation built more frontiers than ever in the history of humanity. The concept of free exchange doesn't open the world, it's quit the opposite: it creates limits to protect the exchange of productions.
Does Johnny Harris love Amazon or hate it? I can't tell.
Neither. He has become top fence sitter
I wanted to minecraft myself after hearing that free trade shit
"The solution to all our problems!" Haha ya good one
I prefer unethical reacts
Hasan: Who was that Steele guy what was his name
Chat: John Steele
Glowy Harris defender of US hegemony
Capitalism, inventor of everything is what that opening to the video sounds like.
I’ve been saying this since I was 13 that it would just make a lot more sense for these countries who all talk about wanting to have a renewed stake as “global industry leaders” to invest heavily for the future introduction of Renewable energy infrastructure but ofcourse no one who has that power ever thinks of things beyond a year it seems
I would price cap all energy suppliers and heavily tax through capital gains, corporate, and assets tax and use those tax funds to levy a nationalised energy revolution,
These energy corporations and their supplier companies would be then subject to grand fines for profiteering off of the public who themselves had no choice as the de facto energy monopoly is king
They would also be fined and sentenced for knowingly irreversibly damaging the finite environment
Thing is, with any power, when you get into power through something (take Britain, there empire and prosperity was built off of free trade), when that system starts to decline and not benefit you, your unlikely to change your ways due to powerful interest group within the country resisting change that puts them out of power. In the case of America, our empire is built off of the petro dollar, so switching to renewable will piss off oil companies who have a huge stake in government
30:19 man, remember when free trade ended war?
This Harris is CIA trained journalist for sure. Hasan is hot
People need to remember that trade is not a capitalist concept, trade exists within both communism and socialism. The difference between free market capitalism and a socialist/communist market is that in capitalism the market is meant to be as free as possible and regulate entirely (or almost entirely), whereas in socialist markets the government regulates heavily and has last say when it comes to corporations, markets, currency and distribution (this is exactly what China does). People always act like if you have money that makes you capitalist, but they forget that money and trade existed LONG before capitalism and China actually started doing wide spread international trade centuries before the west.
Anyone with even the most basic knowledge of economics understands that markets and trade predate "capitalism." That said, your example of a "socialist market" is qualitatively the same as any economic system you would describe as being capitalist, that's why it's easy to ridicule an ignoramus like Hasan Piker or your typical leftist comment where something that is well known as something "people need to remember" or "not a lot of people realize." smh
Is it really that countries like China wanted some of the wealth that capitalism brought or was it that the countries that ruled the world economy demanded that they allow capitalism in if they were going to allow countries like China to participate in the world economic system? Trade and commerce are not antithetical to communism or socialism, it is the ownership and profit distribution that differentiates the two systems. It would work perfectly fine if China developed its industries as state or worker owned companies and traded internationally. Seems like that would look pretty much the same as it does today. So why didn't they go in that direction? Because in the beginning, they were a 3rd world agrarian economy that had starving citizens and very little industrial infrastructure. In order to get the resources they needed to build out that infrastructure and participate in international trade, post soviet union, the west required them to allow capitalist interests into their country. Just look at Vietnam. The French and US, unprovoked, devastated their country, bombed it back to the stone ages, poisoned it with millions of gallons of toxins. Beyond imagination, the Vietnamese are able to beat both western armies and instead of accepting defeat, the US proceeds to go back to war with Vietnam, but this time, not with guns and bombs, but economics. It embargos them, sanctions them, blocks other countries from trading with them. Finally, Vietnam has no option but to capitulate and accept external capitalist internal interests into the country.
The Three Alls policy was Savage
Only like two minutes in and I already want to video game. Free trade andys I swear.
What has to happen before trade can occur, Johnny CIA? What is the actual material distinction between humans and other animals- the thing that needs to happen to have anything to trade in the first place?
54:36 The US move chip manufacture back to US is not to create jobs.
It’s not only to create jobs but that’s definitely a huge part.
34:15 the best take hasan ever had
Mr.CIA promoting privacy lmao
When a brand new Porsche costs 50 cents...
Authoritarian County good?
Harris invites no critical thought, but acts like an “educator” anyway.
Hassan fan criticizing someone for having “No critical thought ” is hilarious
32:34 South Korea is neoliberal now but it initially had a state planned economy.
If Johnny Harris was in the one piece verse he would be covertly cutting propaganda for the world government on water 7
Not possible theirs no way he would be creating propaganda for a fictional story created by a Japanese lol.
"This is literally just like a child's comic".
"Everybody knows CP9 doesn't exist, and even if they did water 7 was harboring wepons of mass destruction!"
56:40. I wonder how much this influences the actions of Israel and the Western powers, regarding the trillions of cubic meters of Natural Gas off the coast of Gaza?
🔥🔥🔥
Johnny released a Zeihan video while PeeZee's on vacation
What's up with the Squid Game style music Harris uses through this whole video. So distracting
another based china take from Hassan ❤❤❤
21:23 Bro be just saying words lmao what does this even mean?? I hate how unscientifcally liberals form their arguments
I LOVE Bretton Woods! Woooo!
And then Johnny 'CIA' Harris got the worst case of crotch rot and died the end.
Well, I'm a little dumber now. Cool.
Like for everyone we can be an industrial hub. Nah bro we really cant claw that shit back. America has turned into a predominantly service based economy. Wages in service sectors are higher which affords the standard of living that americans expect. Its natural economic evolution
Realistically how many white Americans will want to work in those factories. All those jobs will end up going to cheaper immigrant labour anyways. As it always has been.
That might be too well-read for commenting on this channel, you may be accused of being CIA
tfw the rate of profit has a tendency to fall
Left is best. ☮️☝️❤️🌍
Too many ad's 🫸
“New”?
No ethical CIA react indeed.
This seems like a weird take. JH seems less like he's making any value judgement and just saying "this is what's happening."
When I see clip chimps put up big chunks of Hasan's stream (presumably to collect the associated ad revenue), I am reluctant to subscribe.
Reading the creator's page, he shows a number if edits and added annotations. If other Hasan-heads confirm that, I would consider the value-add sufficient to justify collecting the ad dollars. That’s a fair exchange.
Hasan has said publicly that anyone can reupload his content on yt for free. He says it's cause he doesn't believe in copyright but I just think he has to say this because he only does reaction content, which wouldn't be justifiable otherwise.
10:27 inventor of iSIS
I now only watch Harris videos through Hasan. I can not stand his melodramatic liberal take otherwise.
capitalish lives as long as people keep buying it.
Dude if EVERYBODY HATES SPAM AND IT COULD LEAD TO SCAMS.
THEN WHY NOT BAN IT OR MAKE IT ILLEGAL AND OR PUT FEAR INTO THE THOUGHT OF IT BY MAKING THE SENTENCE TERRIBLE. AND STACK.
Sorry shits annoying.
I just tell them I'm a kid and the leave me alone for a bit
A steady flow of tea has been shipped to Russia from China since the 17th century, regardless of which empires or governments were in control. Why is Hong Kong what it is, if global trade hadn’t been in place previously for numerous Chinese goods? Johnny Harris needs to retire from making lazy econ vids.
I hate jonny
Imagine living in the world where US imperialism has done untold damage and death over the past century and then claiming "China bad US not as bad because I hate authoritarianism". Either attempt to involve a few more braincells and inject nuances and disclaimers to make that sound more coherent, or just don't say something as reductively stupid and disregarding of the lives of the poorest people around the world - who have been slaughtered in US-pursued and US-instigated conflicts and regimes that were immensely "authoritarian" toward them - as that.
I forget who said it, but there was a sentence in regards to Africa: "When Britain visits we get a lecture, when China visits we get a hospital." I feel like you can add the US to Britain there since they don't do more than lecture the nations they exploit on how bad China is.
hi I was the one who typed that message, it was definitely reductive but that's unfortunately the nature of twitch chat and I was not expecting to be pulled on stream haha. I still stand by the sentiment, and typed it more in the context of the whole video hasan was watching about the "new economic order". I was reading chat and saw a lot of people making excuses for or straight up denying china's authoritarianism (which hasan luckily didn't do) and felt compelled to scream into the void. I want to say that I'm not making any excuses for what any country has done in their ugly pasts, but in the context of the "new economic order" and increasing protectionism I felt it was objectively better for the minor powers on earth to align themselves with the Us-Eu economic order than with china's because *generally speaking* the US and EU abide by international agreements and value national sovereignty while china often doesn't. I meant all this within the current day geopolitical situation, where the US is not actively expanding and has withdrawn out of the middle east. I hope I clarified my thoughts a bit better this way, twitch chat is not the best place to find nuance unfortunately
@@Hanaki20 The US and EU do not value national sovereignty outside their own borders, at all. There isn't even a historical reference I can think of to point to in order to come to your conclusion.
@@lich109 The US and Eu send aid to Ukraine in order to help that country protect itself from an invasion, and are thus helping protect their national sovereignty. In the 90s Balkan conflict NATO bombed the serbs to stop the bosnian genocide and helped negotiate a bosnian state. The US has historically and today protected Taiwanese sovereignty from an aggressive China
@@Hanaki20 No, they send aid to Ukraine because they hate Russia. If they respected national sovereignty, they would be against Israel and pro-Palestine, yet currently the EU is trying to pretend that isn't happening, while the US is vetoing every UN prospect that would help Palestine.
Also their activities regarding the bosnian genocide are examples where they did not respect national sovereignty. You can think their involvement there was good, I'd likely agree if we were discussing it in detail, but it works against your point.
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I don't know if trade can work as Hasan stipulates, AND, have the 'productive forces', that Marx spoke about.
Read Capital
1:45
"Capitalism is when free trade and market" . Meanwhie the Silkroad 💀💀💀💀💀
The USA needs a leader that taxes the shit out of anything shipped to the USA, Force companies back here.
Or just impose a traitor tax on those companies
@@androidunderground40lmao a traitor tax lmao shut up dork
@@androidunderground40 Yup, It's just total trash, That our auto companies go overseas for cheap labor, And are allowed to sell to the people and cities, That they left behind in ruins.
That would further drive up costs. That also would drive up inflation. You people are clueless about economics
@@DoneDealAC You have no clue what you are talking about, The middle class is gone now that all these companies went overseas, Whole states are 3rd world countries now, Most families need to work 2 jobs, There is no more father working and mother being the stay at home mom. That's another reason why marriages don't last anymore.
Maybe if there were millions of more good paying jobs, Places like Walmart would have to raise their pay, Way more tax money would go back into the economy.
The NEP only lasted 10 years. How long will this Chinese NEP last? I don't see any signs of this ending.
Me when I realise the material conditions in 2020's China are not the same as the ones in 1920's USSR
@@lettergam6282 Socialism 2050 right?
@spencer101 you're either a braindead Leftcom or braindead ultraleft maoist
Even if its not fully socialist,China is the main pillar of the resistance against the US world order
That alone is reason enough to be pro-China
Buy xdc for globle trade and shipping and buy xrp and xlm because it will be a world currency 🎉
But don't a lot of our fellow socialists disapprove of market economies, which is where the sentiment at 10:20 stems from?
We "disapprove" of it because it steals money from the 3rd world. He disapproves of it because China got to keep some of that money. Got it?
Markets exist in socialist systems. They’re just controlled by the state and ideally worker owned.
can someone explain why china is objectively better than the US?
Well I think when Hasan or chatters say China is objectively better, they mean China in general. China doesn’t provoke wars, seek conflict, or interfere in other countries’ internal affairs. And domestically, China has a central-planned economic system that brought China into rapid economic development, eradicated extreme poverty in China, rapid development of infrastructure, etc. And also because of the centralization, enterprises can be effectively regulated and controlled. And the society is relatively more stable, no guns, no drugs. These are a part of the reason why China is better in general. Of course the average living standard in China is not as good as in America, after all China’s GDP is still less than America’s, and China has 1.4 billion population.
@@harryliu5089 China doesn't interfere in other countries affairs or provoke conflict. India, Bhutan, Nepal, Japan, Taiwan would disagree. Also China definitely does interfere with other countries internal affairs. US elections have reportedly been subject to Chinese interference. And Chinese spies were recently arrested in the UK.
On econ stuff I can see those being benefits but China is still a lot poorer and quite unequal as well, so I think you'd have to judge when China is closer to the US in terms of per capita income.
@@hughlind3911 1. Do you know what does “provoke wars, seek conflict, or interfere in other countries’ internal conflict” means? Taiwan IS a part of China, that’s an international agreement. And the conflict between China and India is called “Territorial disputes”. Read what I wrote again, did I say “there isn’t any conflict”? China doesn’t seek conflict, but on the issue of national sovereignty, no country will give its historically recognized territory to another country. Do you understand? And when you talk about “conflict with Japan” or “China interfered America election”, that just proves you’re brainwashed by western media. Go do your own research without western media, then you’ll know there’s “tension” between China and Japan all because of Taiwan, which is not considered an independent nation whatsoever.
2. I already said the average living standard in China isn’t as good as America’s. But that’s just one aspect. America is the richest nation throughout history, you can’t just point at that and say: “look America is better”. As the richest nation throughout history, American citizens don’t have free healthcare, or free education, or developed infrastructure, and there isn’t any policy to solve homelessness, or housing crisis, or gun violence, or drugs, or corporate regulation, etc. THAT is abject failure. PRC on the other hand, was founded less than eighty years ago, just got devastated by war, and was very poor. And without allies, without anything like Marshall Plan, 60 years later started to compete with America on the global stage. That’s why I said “China is better in general”
@@harryliu5089 I didn't realise this was such a deep issue for you. I will continue to simp for Western media. Enjoy the rest of your day running defence for the CCP. :).
@@hughlind3911 Lol is that your way to run away? You asked the question, I answered it. You didn’t believe it, I explained in more detail. And suddenly I’m the one who’s “defending China”? 😂😂😂 Can’t you realize you’re just a hater? When someone literally just provides objective facts, then that person is just “pro-China”? Just think about how ridiculous you’re.
Azan making me consider moving to china
Please do lol
Honestly it would be difficult moving from an Imperial core country to China, because the Imperial core countries make it as difficult as possible, but your quality of life would be about a million times better lol. There are large English speaking immigrant communities in big cities like Shanghai and Beijing
This just feels like you mostly uploaded someone elses videos and I dont even point fingers like that.
I'm sensing delusion.
Where does the Evergrande implosion come from? Where does the huge high speed train debt come from? From the 5 year plan? Yeah, i concur.
So, what is capitalism, then? Selling shares in companies? Allowing foreign interests to buy these shares? I see people trying to define and redefine socialism all the time but apparently everybody knows what capitalism is. So what is it?
capitalism is an ECONOMIC system where the means of production are owned by a very small section of the elite. These terms are not hard to define. Why are you acting like they are?
@@darksaint0124 But aren't means of production in communism also practically owned by the few with power/the authority? Granted these people stand as one group called the government.
Capitalism has 2 characteristics: Private ownership of capital, and free market for labor. The former also allows a lot of control over the social aspect of production, reinforcing the latter.
In communist dictatorships or feudalism, there was no free market for labor.
@@saiko-no-kamiNo. Communism is not supposed to have a state power like that at all, which is why you'll hear a lot of communists say that real communism never happened.
@@lich109 I see.
I really don't understand why Hasan doesn't move away from America if he thinks it's the worst country ever. You think he'd actually mean what he says with this stuff.
Maybe because he sees the potential America has and has criticism on how it could improve? I don’t understand your quitter mentality
@hasanabihead He frequently insults us and tells us that we're stupid drones and that all western media, (including local media, for some strange reason), is evil. If he wants to coalition build, he's doing a piss poor job of getting anyone on his side except palestinian nationalists/islamofacists, tankies, and red fascists.
I also think America sucks but I’m staying here because of its ability geography to survive climate change and like my migrant Cambodian uncle who’s home was destroyed in the Vietnamese war for simply being located next to the country, I don’t think I want to know that the American imperial boot tastes like
Johny did a good job. Not sure why Hasan went so hard on him
cuz usa and capitalism bad!
I know, he earned his paycheck with all those b rolls and whatnot
@@BitmaidYeah I feel like Hasan just says shit to make sure he is viewed in the “proper” way lmao
You have freedom in your name. What a sad little life.
@@Ultra_fast0-0tf?
Funny how Johnny becomes "CIA harris" the moment he says something he says something which is not "America bad"
More like he's incapable of saying America bad or having any perspective or using any information resource that isn't American.
When did Johnny say "America bad"? Even in his video on the coups America did to other nations, he strolled right past Chile as if it never happened, and he pretended the coup against Gaddafi in Libya was done to protect protesters.
He's always CIA Harris in our hearts
@@Toastybees He has, why are you lying? Are you autistic and need him to literally say "America bad"?
Hasan fighting with his audience is like wine, never forget he is a propagandist.
But we're all propagandist, Noam Chomsky, manufactured consent, look at me I've read one book!
Okay dork
and?
Anyone who pushes an agenda is a propagandist. Pretty hard to be a political commentator without being one… 🤦♂️
Johnny Harris trying to act like a normal person is like fine wine!
You didn't refute his last point: that's how dumb your reaction was.