Here are some stats from this game. At the end of the game, this is how much mana the players had used on spells and abilities: Josh: 30 Jimmy: 60 Prof: 39 Melissa: 135* Josh, despite playing a 5 color deck, when paying for colored mana used 7 blue mana, 1 red, 3 white, 0 green and 0 black. Melissa, meanwhile, despite her deck being 54% white and 46% green, spent 20 Green mana and 31 White mana to pay for colored mana pips. Prof and Jimmy were more balanced in their use of mana. At the end of turn 8, Jimmy has spent 43 mana, Melissa, 52, setting the difference at 9. Two turns later, Jimmy has spent 52 mana, Melissa has spent precisely 100. The game ended on turn 12. Jimmy's only instant speed interaction was a turn 0 "smack talk" that later got him killed. Prof, famously, Ninjitsued out Kaseto so he could recast him. This was his only instant speed interaction. Josh responded twice to Melissa, on turn 9 and 11. Melissa played something at instant speed 4 times, on turn 7, 8, 9, and 11. At the end of the game, the total amount of mana used was: 264* White: 34 Blue: 22 Black: 0 Red: 13 Green: 40 Generic mana: 153 *(We were never shown how much mana went into the Chord of Calling, i estimated 6 total mana) And finally, the deck's value, ranked from most to least expensive, using Card Kingdom high-prices: Josh: 7565 dollars Jimmy: 2794 dollars Melissa: 1642 dollars (Josh's tropical island: 654 dollars) Prof: 481 dollars These prices will, naturally, have changed since the release of the video, but it is unlikely that the order of the decks have changed a lot. So even though Melissa had the most explosive start, her deck was far from the most expensive. Josh, who had the most expensive deck by a long shot, was also the least influential player in the game, his fevered vision notwithstanding. All in all, this is one of my favorite episodes, and I just wanted to look at its stats.
Yeah that comp streak to tune and make a deck unfun but powerful is really hard to break and it's usually show by how much money you throw at a deck for cards and I am not talking foils.
@@jessicastevens538 Nope, you actually can't. The oracle text reads "..pay 2 before that step". You have to pay before the trigger goes on the stack. You can't pay during the untap step since no one gets priority, so you have to pay before you can untap.
@@jessicastevens538 The way this actually works is that the trigger fires at the beginning of your upkeep, but you can't pay the cost anymore at that stage because it's no longer "before your upkeep". You can pay the cost at any time you have priority before then (it's a special action), which basically means any time before your turn (because you won't get priority during your untap step). On the other hand, if you want to counter the triggered ability (e.g., with Stifle), or interact with it in any way other than by paying the prevention cost, you have to wait until your upkeep so it will go on the stack.
Guys, I have to give you some mad props! This is the first time I've ever enjoyed a gameplay video long enough to finish it. Your use of camera work, graphics, and interview style snippets is quite entertaining.
Josh Lee Kwai Job well done. I've been a fan of Jimmy for years and of Magic for even longer. Command Zone is a good podcast but I rarely enjoy hour-long content but, for you two I've made some exceptions. 🙃
I just hope you can keep this format alive, it's easily the best MTG content on RUclips. You can really see all the effort and passion that goes into it; the editing is on point, the games itself are interesting and the atmosphere feels authentic and fun. I don't have the funds to donate via Patreon and ordering from Cardkingdom to Europe costs too much shipping, so hopefully at least this comment will help you with the RUclips algorithm or something, GameKnights should get the attention it deserves.
xsoulwrecked We appreciate any and all support we get, in whatever form it takes. Telling you're friends about the show is another great way to help us out. Cheers!
Benjamin Klahn Pretty sure the original comment was in reference to the video format of Game Knights and not the Commander format which is happily about as healthy as it could possibly be.
I love how Melissa's skill actually shone through here with the quality of the deck, her unexpected play of destroying her own enchantment to not get blown out and her bluff
It's even better than it seems, because she definitely had that planned from the start of the turn. She had Sterling Grove, which gave all her enchantments shroud, so if that was still on the battlefield she wouldn't have been able to blow up the Starfield of Nyx. So before she played the Starfield, which would instantly open her up to creature removal, she sacrificed the Sterling Grove to tutor a completely irrelevant enchantment, which I'm 90% sure was just so she could blow up the Starfield if creature removal happened. Which was a safe bet, because Josh had been stuck with cards in hand for a while, and there had never been a previous turn where there was a threatening enough board to use a creature based board wipe. Turns out Melissa's actually pretty good at this.
HumanityIsDissapointing 21 She doesn’t have the PT record to get in the Hall. That’s not because of her talent (she’s an amazing player) but because WotC poached her just as she was really starting to make her mark.
@@Dracinard what I really didn't get is how she replayed Sterling Grove at 33:58 if she had already sacrificed the card, it probably didn't had much impact in her final victory but I was really thrown off by how she got it back into her hand from the graveyard.
At 18:00 when Jimmy copied the dragon and attacked with the copy it would had triggered twice, once for each Utvara Hellkite getting two dragon tokens instead. Mistake on him, but everyone else kept their mouth shut!
JuQmadrid fortunately my mistake didn't end up mattering, it's tough to keep track of every little thing when you're responsible for producing and the filming of the episodes as you play a complex game of Edh! -jimmy
ThePowerJack ya only one dragon but utvara says whenever a dragon atks get a 6/6 token. So when he made a copy they both had that effect so 2 tokens are made with one atk.
He made an Utvara copy with Kiki, so there were two on board when the token swung. The trigger in question here is Utvara's, nothing to do with the damage dealt. As stated above, he should have made two 6/6 dragon tokens instead of just one when it swung, since both the original Utvara and the copy would trigger. But no, it would not have effected the game that much as it happens. It's only a little bewildering since it looked like that was the point in doing it in the first place, but I guess he was just thinking more about the attack damage instead.
Yo, this was BY FAR THE BEST GAME KNIGHTS YET! BY FAR. Yes, Prof and Melissa are more well known Magic figures but your guys' chemistry at the table was amazing to watch. Josh, your editing is so professional it's unreal!
Entertainment 10/10, quality of video and audio 10/10, editing 10/10, ambient electronic music 9/10, acting 10/10, trying not to cry after losing fevered visions 10/10, social manipulation to achieve victory x/1+x where x is equal to the number of dreams sent to the graveyard, professor puns 10½/10 (silver border and tribal ofc), dog 0⇂\0⇂ (of course it's a flip card).
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At my old card shop in Pensacola, Florida, TBS Comics for those who live nearby, we had a guy we called Zilla. Great guy, was an amazing MTG player, and he loved to play Intet, the Dreamer. Zilla was killed for his MTG collection, so its a bit of a pact that those of us who knew him have to carry an Intet in our collections at all times. I'm lucky enough to play 5-color dragons, so I get to use mine alot. Glad to see Intet getting some love.
I've seen this comment no less than five times (on this video) and I stop to re-read it every time I do. I can't believe someone would kill someone over literal cards. May he rest in peace.
Those are the go-to sleeves used at Wizards of the Coast. I first noticed them when playing Magic against the Wizards R&D team at PAX East 2015. I had the same reaction you did when I first saw them. They literally have supply lockers in their offices that include tons of these sleeves.
@@navo6283 to be fair i'm pretty sure that knowing what they could do with that mana he wasn't expecting to have his board intact in the first place, so it could be an error or maybe was on purpose just to appear less threatning. The real question i have is "could you ignore a trigger or is considered an illegal action?", that could have some impact on the game as far as rules go.
So what you are telling me is that it is perfectly ok to forget about your triggered abilities? At least that's what it sounds like you are telling me.
@@navo6283 is not fine, but the question is if it his illegal. I don't think that someone would be disqualified from a tournament only because he forgot to trigger an ability, is the player fault for not noticing it not of the opponent. And as i said maybe he thought that not triggering it was the right decision for some reason, not that it would make a big difference between board wipes and the fact that they were already going to ocus on him
This was a great episode! Good to finally see the Professor on the show! Melissa is a highly skilled player in every regard. The deals enabled multiple players to stay in the game when they would otherwise be dead. I thought Josh was gonna get there but Dromoka hoses control. Well done guys!
Same, I made a recreation of Melissa’s deck with some from the new sets. Karametra is in the deck but not the commander. I run this as the current deck list (I wanted glacial chasm and ghostly prison from Josh, they work well in this deck.) Hopefully this helps if you ever wanna see what it might look like or to try for yourself! Commander: Sythis, harvests hand Main board (creatures): Oak heart dryads Auramancer Nyx-fleece ram Karametra, god of harvests Selvala, explorer returned Nylea, god of the hunt Satyr enchanter Destiny spinner Acidic slime Verduran enchantress Hopeful eidolon Starfield mystic Femeref enchantress Daxos, blessed by the sun Transcendent envoy Mesa enchantress sigarda, host of herons Archon of suns grace Heliod, sun crowned Argothian enchantress Setessan champion Renata, called to the hunt Drago lord dromoka Dryad of the Elysian grove herald of the pantheon Main deck (enchants): Aid from the cowl Leyline of sanctity Broken wings Flickerform Sunbond Gift of immortality Brought back All that glitters Angelic exaltation Aura of silence Enchantress’s presence Wilderness reclamation Wheel of sun and moon Brave the sands Ghostly prison Exploration Aura shards Idyllic tutor Starfield of Nyx Mastery of the unseen Sol ring Heliods punishment Karmic justice Runed halo Stasis snare Natural end Ashes of the abhorrent Privileged position Quarantine field Ajani’s welcome Light of promise Smothering tithe Burgeoning Sigil of the empty throne Stony silence Marshals anthem Overwhelming splendor Darksteel mutation Lands: 13 plains 14 forests 4 split lands 1 Savannah 1 mist veil plains 1 windswept heath 1 Serra’s sanctum 1 reliquary tower 1 glacial chasm Side board: Bronze hide lion Sterling grove (probably, I don’t have this card yet.) Sorry it’s a bit of a read! I’ve found that usually by turn 2 I can play Sythis, and get that ramp. And with 4 ways to ramp its easy to get into more cards that allow me to play more lands. Last time I played (last Thursday) I was super happy. Ended up with just about the same starting hand as her. Glacial chasm is fine to play since I can use the acidic slime to break that land, it’s allowed me to build a board and keep controlling my opponents with some of my enchants. I have to keep discarding since I draw so many, but I have lands to play most of what I get, so having wheel of sun and moon allows me to keep myself from milling out, and even if I don’t have that, it’s not hard to dig until I get an enchantment I need or want, play it then discard into my deck. It’s pretty sweet
@@klenlapis6329 you should def consider adding 2-4 Druid and Cleric classes to your deck. Overkill? Yeah, but damn it’ll make the engine run so much faster churning out even more lands and gaining extra life back per each land card placed
@@aes2621 that’s actually a good point, I’ve recently been banned from playing it with less than 4 people and when I pull it out it’s target number one lol
I had never watched a commander game before. I have watched many youtube magic games but they are all static and really hard to follow and somewhat dull. This felt like a mixture of watching a reality show and a yugioh anime episode, and I mean it in a good sense; You can follow the game without having to know everything about it, you dont need to stop and amplify the video to see what a card does and you get each player's insight in real time. This is a series that we can not let go since it has achieved a level of production and editing that rivals and maybe surpasses professional productions. My congratulations to The Command Zone, please keep up the entertaining guests.
This show has SUCH great editing, and it's really the most enjoyable Commander Content I've come across. It got me back into the format, and seeing the cross-collaboration of channels like TCC makes me hopeful that more content-creators will be brought onto Game Knights in the future. Thanks for making the shower, and I'm really stoked to check out the new LifeLinker app!!
@@williamb29348 You don't have to attack with both to get the triggers. It says that whenever a dragon attacks, and there was only one attacker but a trigger from each hellkite
It was great to see Melissa in a casual setting. She has one of the best poker faces in Magic but it's nice to see her crack a smile. Prof is also a big deal, great content maker and personality.
I rewatch this episode over and over again just so I can see the play where: Melissa turns her enchantments into creatures and swings at Josh. Josh responds with an evacuation, trying to bounce all of her creatures (which are enchantments) back into her hand; and Melissa responding by using a sac outlet to destroy her own enchantment to revert all of her creatures back to enchantments. That has to be one of the coolest plays I’ve seen. Oh-and Profs ninjitsu on Jimmy 😂
I like to go back to this episode to remind myself just how hard putting together high-quality videos can be and how amazing the entire Command Zone team is for producing the level of quality they can nowadays. Also because it's just a fun game with some interesting politicing choices
Reminds me of the time where Vinny board wiped with a yahenni deck and Josh just tapped everything for mana and emptied his hand again that was ridiculous
I built my first non pre-con deck from watching Melissa pilot Karametra. Lol my friends laughed at 1st till I stomped them with an army of 4/4 Angel tokens!!! :)
Nikki S. I agree. I have a Sigarda EDH Deck, and right now... I'm planning on creating a Karametra deck! All because of Melissa's inspiring build! Haha
I watch a lot of commander on RUclips and this is honestly the best way to watch it. I can't believe I only just discovered this show after being subscribed for so long.
The way y’all edited the video made it much more interesting to watch than other MtG gameplay videos. I also loved how y’all each explained your strategies as y’all played your cards. Love it. Keep it up!
The Commander Knights Videos are easily the most entertaining mtg videos ive ever saw. I do follow a decent amount of mtg youtube channels for a long time and discovered yours some weeks ago, because im gettin more into commander and i pretty much love your videos and hope youll release more of those game knights!! Greetings from germany, keep up the awesome work
dude this is good content. Im so glad to have seen how far everyone has come. commander is fun - im glad its alive today. watching in #2022 LETS GOOOOOO
Great episode guys! i recently found out watching these gameplay videos are great for working out! get on the elliptical and just run till the episode is done. Also the boost of adrenaline really helps me get into the ferociousness of the game.
Been playing standard MTG for 4-5 now on a casual basis and I've gone down a commander rabbit hole with my friends! Super happy to see how far the show has from its formative days after first watching the more recent episodes! Good stuff guys! Keep it up! :)
If you started with Commander 17, you're set for a while. Fat packs help too. Try playing sometime! The Ixalan Pre Release is in two weeks, and you don't need cards, plus if an get your collection off the ground
Still one of my favorite episodes of the whole series, I keep coming back to it, lol. I'm in the process of (VERY slowly...) building Nekusar and I just picked up Karametra for the distant future. LOVE this game!
Just watched this one again since i just bought the cards for my Karametra angel tribal deck and forgot what she ran in her enchantment cheese deck. But every time i see this episode, i am just disgusted by it. IMO most enchantments are way too cheap cmc wise, and too much of a hassle to remove in time. Wizards and their enchantments :/
I want Melissa’s decklist. I love the threros block and the fact that she made a whole commander deck centered around enchantments and enchantment creatures makes my heart happy
Right. I've watched this game several times and it still is awesome. What stands out massively is that with all the banter going on, especially around 17:28, you can see the difference between the approach to the game. Everyone is just having a laugh about the conversation happening, and while Melissa joins in, sort of, you can see she keeps scanning the board, looking at her hand, planning. She never takes her eyes off the ball. Lots of respect for that.
Just love Melisa DeTora, one of the best mtg players of all time and not to mention her influence over mtg in general from her own creativity and experience. Very funny, very cool, hope to see more of her, Josh, Jimmy and Prof in the future of watching this channel!
That was such a great match, everyone was basically on full steam, politics happened, swingy situations happened, Melissa won on grounds of how well she was able to avoid getting blown out, better than everyone on the table. And everyone had so much fun! I play EDH for that moment when everyone's ready to go off and win, and then the interactions happen.
First time I've watched your channel, as much as I enjoy playing magic ive never really enjoyed watching it. But you've done an amazing job making this fun and entertaining. Keep up the good work!
haha, I read your comment before watching the vid, so I skipped a couple of minutes to see her sleeves and I was like: "Maaan, I dont get it! where are the damn sleeves. All I see is Lotus!! Ohhh waaait..." :D but it took some time xD
Wow, the quality of production has come SO FAR, and yet, these original episodes were still absolutely amazing and well made. Glad I'm going back through them all!
She is one of the coolest guests you guys have had both because she's super skilled but also because all the deal making seemed like such a completely different game than tournament play. Good stuff
30:54 This segment makes the difference between a Pro and a Casual very clear. A casual would have simply played Starfield without much thought and would have most likely believed that it would be the winning move. Now, she as a Pro knows the risk, as she says it herself, of turning all her enchants into creatures, so she has this contingency on the field that allows her to reverse her bordstate to a much less attackable one if the need arises. This is an amazing portrayal of gameknowledge and the ability to predict her opponents potential moves from sheer experience.
This episode was by far my favorite, which is weird because I keep saying that. Watching Melissa play Commander was a super cool experience, especially getting a look into a super spike's perspective on politics and deals which just doesn't happen in high-level magic. Unfortunately Prof didn't really get to show off his deck too much, but that's alright because his banter was A+. Would love to see some more super spikes in future episodes like Marshall or Kenji.
I thought watching your vids was pointless since there is tons of cards in commander and I don't know what most of card. I didn't realize you would put so much work into it! Great video!
"All I need is someone cocky enough not to block"
Swings at Jimmy. Atleast Prof knows who he is dealing with
2 years later this comment still holds well lol
@@DylanCEdh 2 years and 2 weeks this joke still holds up
Still holds up, even in the new age of humanity, where physical contact is outlawed
@@kabelguy70 still holds up today in 2045 when the Anunaki have enslaved us all
@@xblowsmokexstill holding up after we revolted against those baby deck anunaki in the year 2355
"actually everything had vigilance, soo"
*Different hand gesture *
Amazing.
That just shows you how smart she is. Her mind is so clear.
@@Fiskie666 yeah to be that good you have to be able to think at least 5 steps ahead
I think Melissa is going to need another table for her board.
She has to kill someone to make more room.
I think she needed a separate room for her board O.O
Yep
She needs a sidebar for the king of the harvest's mash potatoes and gravy.
Here are some stats from this game.
At the end of the game, this is how much mana the players had used on spells and abilities:
Josh: 30
Jimmy: 60
Prof: 39
Melissa: 135*
Josh, despite playing a 5 color deck, when paying for colored mana used 7 blue mana, 1 red, 3 white, 0 green and 0 black.
Melissa, meanwhile, despite her deck being 54% white and 46% green, spent 20 Green mana and 31 White mana to pay for colored mana pips.
Prof and Jimmy were more balanced in their use of mana.
At the end of turn 8, Jimmy has spent 43 mana, Melissa, 52, setting the difference at 9.
Two turns later, Jimmy has spent 52 mana, Melissa has spent precisely 100.
The game ended on turn 12.
Jimmy's only instant speed interaction was a turn 0 "smack talk" that later got him killed.
Prof, famously, Ninjitsued out Kaseto so he could recast him. This was his only instant speed interaction.
Josh responded twice to Melissa, on turn 9 and 11.
Melissa played something at instant speed 4 times, on turn 7, 8, 9, and 11.
At the end of the game, the total amount of mana used was: 264*
White: 34
Blue: 22
Black: 0
Red: 13
Green: 40
Generic mana: 153
*(We were never shown how much mana went into the Chord of Calling, i estimated 6 total mana)
And finally, the deck's value, ranked from most to least expensive, using Card Kingdom high-prices:
Josh: 7565 dollars
Jimmy: 2794 dollars
Melissa: 1642 dollars
(Josh's tropical island: 654 dollars)
Prof: 481 dollars
These prices will, naturally, have changed since the release of the video, but it is unlikely that the order of the decks have changed a lot. So even though Melissa had the most explosive start, her deck was far from the most expensive. Josh, who had the most expensive deck by a long shot, was also the least influential player in the game, his fevered vision notwithstanding.
All in all, this is one of my favorite episodes, and I just wanted to look at its stats.
The amount of money that went into the decks makes me wanna cry. Other than that those stats are cool. Thanks for breaking it down.
This was incredibly helpful.
Mad appreciation for the stats, this was awesome
@@klenlapis6329 thank you!
Can we pay you to keep doing this?
Just the cards in Melissa's first turn are worth like $240 depending on where you buy. Holy crap.
Not to mention you can see an alpha black lotus when she shuffled
Yeah that comp streak to tune and make a deck unfun but powerful is really hard to break and it's usually show by how much money you throw at a deck for cards and I am not talking foils.
What about her whole deck
@@giraffetownfan8810 it was the sleeves, but I wouldn't be surprised
I don't think she pays the cards at full price.
Lol
Josh: I have died to the professor when i made a deal with him
Jimmy: Hopefully i can make a deal with the professor so that I don't die
billy is a neat person
@@kd8fkt who the fuck is billy?
@Daniel Wilson well maybe, yeah, actually, yes.
@Daniel Wilson and im 4
@Daniel Wilson *months late 😅
"before your upkeep"
"but when does it trigger?"
"before your upkeep"
It triggers at beginning of your upkeep then you can pay 2 to prevent. Don't even know what they were talking about made 0 sense.
@@jessicastevens538 Nope, you actually can't. The oracle text reads "..pay 2 before that step". You have to pay before the trigger goes on the stack. You can't pay during the untap step since no one gets priority, so you have to pay before you can untap.
@@jessicastevens538 The way this actually works is that the trigger fires at the beginning of your upkeep, but you can't pay the cost anymore at that stage because it's no longer "before your upkeep". You can pay the cost at any time you have priority before then (it's a special action), which basically means any time before your turn (because you won't get priority during your untap step).
On the other hand, if you want to counter the triggered ability (e.g., with Stifle), or interact with it in any way other than by paying the prevention cost, you have to wait until your upkeep so it will go on the stack.
I never realized that Milly’s ninja pose in Fan Episode 2 is a reference to the Prof’s pose. Sick!
It’s a different pose.
@@hiddenleaf414 that doesn't mean it's not a reference
It's fun going back to older episodes of Game Knights and seeing how the show has evolved!
Guys, I have to give you some mad props! This is the first time I've ever enjoyed a gameplay video long enough to finish it. Your use of camera work, graphics, and interview style snippets is quite entertaining.
This is what we're aiming for! Making the game interesting to those of us who usually don't enjoy watching magic gameplay.
Josh Lee Kwai
Job well done. I've been a fan of Jimmy for years and of Magic for even longer. Command Zone is a good podcast but I rarely enjoy hour-long content but, for you two I've made some exceptions. 🙃
Josh Lee Kwai
You'd think maybe the ProTour could take a few notes out of your book hahaha
Same!
I agree! My brother showed me magic today so this was easy and entertaining enough for a noob to enjoy
I just hope you can keep this format alive, it's easily the best MTG content on RUclips. You can really see all the effort and passion that goes into it; the editing is on point, the games itself are interesting and the atmosphere feels authentic and fun.
I don't have the funds to donate via Patreon and ordering from Cardkingdom to Europe costs too much shipping, so hopefully at least this comment will help you with the RUclips algorithm or something, GameKnights should get the attention it deserves.
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the commander format doesn't need help staying alive. it's not going anywhere any time soon.
yeah the commander format is actually bigger than ever. It's the other eternal formats that are dying.
Benjamin Klahn Pretty sure the original comment was in reference to the video format of Game Knights and not the Commander format which is happily about as healthy as it could possibly be.
They were talking about the format of the show...
I love how Melissa's skill actually shone through here with the quality of the deck, her unexpected play of destroying her own enchantment to not get blown out and her bluff
It's even better than it seems, because she definitely had that planned from the start of the turn. She had Sterling Grove, which gave all her enchantments shroud, so if that was still on the battlefield she wouldn't have been able to blow up the Starfield of Nyx. So before she played the Starfield, which would instantly open her up to creature removal, she sacrificed the Sterling Grove to tutor a completely irrelevant enchantment, which I'm 90% sure was just so she could blow up the Starfield if creature removal happened. Which was a safe bet, because Josh had been stuck with cards in hand for a while, and there had never been a previous turn where there was a threatening enough board to use a creature based board wipe. Turns out Melissa's actually pretty good at this.
Yeah, I was kind of confused why she didn't grab something more relevent, like maybe her sigil
i really dont know how she hasnt got into the hall of fame
HumanityIsDissapointing 21 She doesn’t have the PT record to get in the Hall. That’s not because of her talent (she’s an amazing player) but because WotC poached her just as she was really starting to make her mark.
@@Dracinard what I really didn't get is how she replayed Sterling Grove at 33:58 if she had already sacrificed the card, it probably didn't had much impact in her final victory but I was really thrown off by how she got it back into her hand from the graveyard.
Melissa: (20 life) I’m kinda getting low on life.
Jimmy: *Cries in 7 life*
Damn I just got back into MTG and I love how the MTG youtube community interacts with each other.
Also The Professor’s intro has hilarious.
Me too dude welcome back
At 18:00 when Jimmy copied the dragon and attacked with the copy it would had triggered twice, once for each Utvara Hellkite getting two dragon tokens instead. Mistake on him, but everyone else kept their mouth shut!
JuQmadrid fortunately my mistake didn't end up mattering, it's tough to keep track of every little thing when you're responsible for producing and the filming of the episodes as you play a complex game of Edh! -jimmy
The Command Zone Keeping track of a kiki jiki token is tough
Was wondering about that... Seemed like a pretty obvious mistake.
ThePowerJack ya only one dragon but utvara says whenever a dragon atks get a 6/6 token. So when he made a copy they both had that effect so 2 tokens are made with one atk.
He made an Utvara copy with Kiki, so there were two on board when the token swung. The trigger in question here is Utvara's, nothing to do with the damage dealt. As stated above, he should have made two 6/6 dragon tokens instead of just one when it swung, since both the original Utvara and the copy would trigger. But no, it would not have effected the game that much as it happens.
It's only a little bewildering since it looked like that was the point in doing it in the first place, but I guess he was just thinking more about the attack damage instead.
Yo, this was BY FAR THE BEST GAME KNIGHTS YET! BY FAR. Yes, Prof and Melissa are more well known Magic figures but your guys' chemistry at the table was amazing to watch. Josh, your editing is so professional it's unreal!
Glad you enjoyed! This is definitely my favorite episode as well.
Think Tank People didn't keep track of their triggers well.
Entertainment 10/10, quality of video and audio 10/10, editing 10/10, ambient electronic music 9/10, acting 10/10, trying not to cry after losing fevered visions 10/10, social manipulation to achieve victory x/1+x where x is equal to the number of dreams sent to the graveyard, professor puns 10½/10 (silver border and tribal ofc), dog 0⇂\0⇂ (of course it's a flip card).
Ahh i love watching the old videos and seeing how far they've come but how entertaining the old videos are
Draw 2 cards...2 cards...4/4 Angel Token...Angel Token...Angel Token...
Made me laugh so hard!!!
Congrats Melissa!
i honestly thought that detora had a million black louts in her deck, then they were the sleeves
Me too haha but as she kept shuffling more and more of them I was like.. nahh....
At 4:56 I nearly had an aneurism
I was gonna cry if she was actually playing real lotuses
Duel Master bruh same
Black lotus is banned
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I have those doge sleeves
PROF... Prof prof prof prof prof prof prof...
"Reading the card explains the card", it's not BEFORE the upkeep, it's DURING the upkeep.
No, it's BEFORE. It says on the card. And on the oracle text. You can pay whenever you want BEFORE your upkeep, including on other players' turns.
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The Command Zone Is the app live yet? I cannot seem to locate it on the Android app store.
Even 6 years later this is an absolutely top tier match. Melissa and Prof are awesome to watch
Josh played neither his real or fake commander.. I think Fevered Visions was his REAL real commander 😄
At my old card shop in Pensacola, Florida, TBS Comics for those who live nearby, we had a guy we called Zilla. Great guy, was an amazing MTG player, and he loved to play Intet, the Dreamer. Zilla was killed for his MTG collection, so its a bit of a pact that those of us who knew him have to carry an Intet in our collections at all times. I'm lucky enough to play 5-color dragons, so I get to use mine alot. Glad to see Intet getting some love.
Dude sorry to hear about your friend. Glad to hear you're keeping his memory alive by playing his favorite card.
In honor of the fellow fallen planeswalker I will get a Intent as well
I've seen this comment no less than five times (on this video) and I stop to re-read it every time I do. I can't believe someone would kill someone over literal cards.
May he rest in peace.
Professor to Jimmy: "You are nothing"
That hurt me even through the screen.
Josh did nothing the whole game! Ma man!
IntEnsE ༄EK no, FEVERED VISIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Josh: I hope I can beat prof
Melissa: I hope I can beat prof
Jimmy: *calls his local politician
1:30 The Professor's deckbox tho
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It’s the top!!!!
check out his most recent video on deck boxes. theyre amazing
Is that a REAL BLACK LOTUS 4:55 ?! Then you realize it's just one of many sleeves...
Those are the go-to sleeves used at Wizards of the Coast. I first noticed them when playing Magic against the Wizards R&D team at PAX East 2015. I had the same reaction you did when I first saw them. They literally have supply lockers in their offices that include tons of these sleeves.
I kind of want those sleeves, can't seem to find them anywhere
Does anyone sell those sleeves? They look sweet!
ZasseG and then you're like hey... that's banned...
Jim Harbor She is a wizards employee
18:20 You actually get two 6/6 dragon tokens, because you currently control two Utvara Hellkites that each trigger separately.
Does it make any difference in the end? They were bounced back on the next turn
At the time he didn't know that.
@@navo6283 to be fair i'm pretty sure that knowing what they could do with that mana he wasn't expecting to have his board intact in the first place, so it could be an error or maybe was on purpose just to appear less threatning. The real question i have is "could you ignore a trigger or is considered an illegal action?", that could have some impact on the game as far as rules go.
So what you are telling me is that it is perfectly ok to forget about your triggered abilities? At least that's what it sounds like you are telling me.
@@navo6283 is not fine, but the question is if it his illegal. I don't think that someone would be disqualified from a tournament only because he forgot to trigger an ability, is the player fault for not noticing it not of the opponent. And as i said maybe he thought that not triggering it was the right decision for some reason, not that it would make a big difference between board wipes and the fact that they were already going to ocus on him
This was a great episode! Good to finally see the Professor on the show! Melissa is a highly skilled player in every regard. The deals enabled multiple players to stay in the game when they would otherwise be dead. I thought Josh was gonna get there but Dromoka hoses control. Well done guys!
Mike Untalan That Dromoka!!!!!!
I'd like to see what all these decks look like now 3 years later with all the new cards that have since came out.
Same, I made a recreation of Melissa’s deck with some from the new sets. Karametra is in the deck but not the commander. I run this as the current deck list (I wanted glacial chasm and ghostly prison from Josh, they work well in this deck.)
Hopefully this helps if you ever wanna see what it might look like or to try for yourself!
Commander: Sythis, harvests hand
Main board (creatures):
Oak heart dryads
Auramancer
Nyx-fleece ram
Karametra, god of harvests
Selvala, explorer returned
Nylea, god of the hunt
Satyr enchanter
Destiny spinner
Acidic slime
Verduran enchantress
Hopeful eidolon
Starfield mystic
Femeref enchantress
Daxos, blessed by the sun
Transcendent envoy
Mesa enchantress
sigarda, host of herons
Archon of suns grace
Heliod, sun crowned
Argothian enchantress
Setessan champion
Renata, called to the hunt
Drago lord dromoka
Dryad of the Elysian grove
herald of the pantheon
Main deck (enchants):
Aid from the cowl
Leyline of sanctity
Broken wings
Flickerform
Sunbond
Gift of immortality
Brought back
All that glitters
Angelic exaltation
Aura of silence
Enchantress’s presence
Wilderness reclamation
Wheel of sun and moon
Brave the sands
Ghostly prison
Exploration
Aura shards
Idyllic tutor
Starfield of Nyx
Mastery of the unseen
Sol ring
Heliods punishment
Karmic justice
Runed halo
Stasis snare
Natural end
Ashes of the abhorrent
Privileged position
Quarantine field
Ajani’s welcome
Light of promise
Smothering tithe
Burgeoning
Sigil of the empty throne
Stony silence
Marshals anthem
Overwhelming splendor
Darksteel mutation
Lands:
13 plains
14 forests
4 split lands
1 Savannah
1 mist veil plains
1 windswept heath
1 Serra’s sanctum
1 reliquary tower
1 glacial chasm
Side board:
Bronze hide lion
Sterling grove (probably, I don’t have this card yet.)
Sorry it’s a bit of a read! I’ve found that usually by turn 2 I can play Sythis, and get that ramp. And with 4 ways to ramp its easy to get into more cards that allow me to play more lands.
Last time I played (last Thursday) I was super happy. Ended up with just about the same starting hand as her. Glacial chasm is fine to play since I can use the acidic slime to break that land, it’s allowed me to build a board and keep controlling my opponents with some of my enchants. I have to keep discarding since I draw so many, but I have lands to play most of what I get, so having wheel of sun and moon allows me to keep myself from milling out, and even if I don’t have that, it’s not hard to dig until I get an enchantment I need or want, play it then discard into my deck. It’s pretty sweet
@@klenlapis6329 you should def consider adding 2-4 Druid and Cleric classes to your deck. Overkill? Yeah, but damn it’ll make the engine run so much faster churning out even more lands and gaining extra life back per each land card placed
@@aes2621 that’s actually a good point, I’ve recently been banned from playing it with less than 4 people and when I pull it out it’s target number one lol
I know this video is 3 years old but this was SICK!!! And makes me wanna play some COMMANDER! Gotta get decks with the bros
I had never watched a commander game before. I have watched many youtube magic games but they are all static and really hard to follow and somewhat dull. This felt like a mixture of watching a reality show and a yugioh anime episode, and I mean it in a good sense; You can follow the game without having to know everything about it, you dont need to stop and amplify the video to see what a card does and you get each player's insight in real time. This is a series that we can not let go since it has achieved a level of production and editing that rivals and maybe surpasses professional productions. My congratulations to The Command Zone, please keep up the entertaining guests.
This show has SUCH great editing, and it's really the most enjoyable Commander Content I've come across. It got me back into the format, and seeing the cross-collaboration of channels like TCC makes me hopeful that more content-creators will be brought onto Game Knights in the future. Thanks for making the shower, and I'm really stoked to check out the new LifeLinker app!!
Shouldn't Jimmy get two 6/6 dragons? since kiki jiki made a copy of utvara hellkite, so theres two triggers
Khairul Irzan yep. I was searching to see if someone noticed
Wouldn’t it also have been 24 damage with the Furnace of Rath on the board?
@@GiovanniMattucci The dragon tokens don't come into play attacking
he only attacked with one utvara hellkite
@@williamb29348 You don't have to attack with both to get the triggers. It says that whenever a dragon attacks, and there was only one attacker but a trigger from each hellkite
It was great to see Melissa in a casual setting. She has one of the best poker faces in Magic but it's nice to see her crack a smile. Prof is also a big deal, great content maker and personality.
Nick Safford tre
I rewatch this episode over and over again just so I can see the play where: Melissa turns her enchantments into creatures and swings at Josh. Josh responds with an evacuation, trying to bounce all of her creatures (which are enchantments) back into her hand; and Melissa responding by using a sac outlet to destroy her own enchantment to revert all of her creatures back to enchantments.
That has to be one of the coolest plays I’ve seen. Oh-and Profs ninjitsu on Jimmy 😂
I like to go back to this episode to remind myself just how hard putting together high-quality videos can be and how amazing the entire Command Zone team is for producing the level of quality they can nowadays.
Also because it's just a fun game with some interesting politicing choices
Every time anyone tried to do anything to Melissa she was like okay here are a million things to replace those
Turns out all of us could never possibly out play her in this situation! We should've known better :P
Prof knew what was up and he should have killed her before striking that deal. But thats commander I love it.
Dillon Morrow The professor should have taught her a lesson.No pun intended
Physiwiz lol yes he should have plus getting a kill with commander damage is awesome.
Reminds me of the time where Vinny board wiped with a yahenni deck and Josh just tapped everything for mana and emptied his hand again that was ridiculous
I love how he calls the dog Kiwi, it's interesting because that's what he called Ki Swann his girlfriend in VGHS.
Evan Moak oh ya I frogot about that but vghs is amazing
Enchantment decks are one of my all-time favourite archetypes, and seeing Melissa play it (and do absurd things) was fantastic n_n
I built my first non pre-con deck from watching Melissa pilot Karametra. Lol my friends laughed at 1st till I stomped them with an army of 4/4 Angel tokens!!! :)
melissa left that game with her self-confidence recharged!
This is the best Game Knights episode imo. I've watched this episode probably 10+ times over the years.
melissa's deck never ran out of juice! amazing build for karametra!!! 👍👏😂
I feel ppl underestimate Karametra! She has fantastic synergy and support capabilities!
Nikki S. I agree. I have a Sigarda EDH Deck, and right now... I'm planning on creating a Karametra deck! All because of Melissa's inspiring build! Haha
I never thought I would see Karametra be used in competitive. Not only did she use it, she kicked ass with it
Regirex this isnt competitive........
that Ranger of Eos playmat, tho.
Beautiful art. Love that card!
No way you watch command zone wth
I watch a lot of commander on RUclips and this is honestly the best way to watch it. I can't believe I only just discovered this show after being subscribed for so long.
Yep, the editing, interviews, card close ups etc. make this very easy to follow.
The way y’all edited the video made it much more interesting to watch than other MtG gameplay videos. I also loved how y’all each explained your strategies as y’all played your cards. Love it. Keep it up!
I loved seeing the Prof there can he be on game knights more often I would watch it even more plz
He understood perfectly that the aim of a commander game is not to win but to play some shenanigans on people
the prof is my dad
18:00 shouldn't have Jimmy created 2 token? One from the original Utvara, one from the copied.
Yes
Yea, I was searching for this comment
more importantly, why didn't he swing with both hellkites and make 4 tokens?
@@TheRestlessView because one had somoning sickness the other utvara was a mirror breaker copy with haste
These videos deserve some kind of reward for the editing that goes into them. It’s honestly a work of art.
He was talkin' smack.
-The Professor.
“The future of Game Knights is uncertain”
And look how far they’ve come :’)
I watch this video whenever I feel low and sad. It always cheers me up. Melissa and prof are such wonderful personalities.
Yesssssssssssssssss love your show guys! So hyped Prof is in this one.
Ditto!
The Commander Knights Videos are easily the most entertaining mtg videos ive ever saw. I do follow a decent amount of mtg youtube channels for a long time and discovered yours some weeks ago, because im gettin more into commander and i pretty much love your videos and hope youll release more of those game knights!! Greetings from germany, keep up the awesome work
i never played magic with anyone other than family, but the professor is a really interesting character to watch lol
This video is already so cute, seeing all these guys from so long ago and seeing how they've grown from here is incredible
dude this is good content. Im so glad to have seen how far everyone has come. commander is fun - im glad its alive today. watching in #2022 LETS GOOOOOO
I expected the professor to be playing Leovold for a small second
Then gave it a second thought
Amigo Rafita me to
I for one am glad he didn't!
Josh Lee Kwai that would not be fun
He enjoys commander too much to be doing the fun police role xD
I think he'd like to be invited back at some point, that deck certainly wouldn't help
Great episode guys! i recently found out watching these gameplay videos are great for working out! get on the elliptical and just run till the episode is done. Also the boost of adrenaline really helps me get into the ferociousness of the game.
Love to hear that we're being a positive fitness motivation! Keep it up!
I love it when you guys have Melissa on. She’s such a good player
We need this group of people on a new episode. what a great way to celebrate how far y'all have come.
Been playing standard MTG for 4-5 now on a casual basis and I've gone down a commander rabbit hole with my friends!
Super happy to see how far the show has from its formative days after first watching the more recent episodes!
Good stuff guys! Keep it up! :)
I don't even play MTG, but this was very entertaining!
Now this is something we love to hear! Super glad you still found it entertaining as one of our goals is to make the game more accessible.
InKensify you should get into it! Commander is really fun.
InKensify ygo player her hahaha
If you started with Commander 17, you're set for a while. Fat packs help too. Try playing sometime! The Ixalan Pre Release is in two weeks, and you don't need cards, plus if an get your collection off the ground
One year later i watched this and it's the same for me lol
Holy crap - this is the first video I've seen on this channel and the editing is phenomenal! I hope you keep that up because you've earned a sub! :)
Amazing episode, I love how easy to follow you make the game. As a newer player it was definitely helpful and interesting! :)
This is still my favourite ever Game Knights game. Totally love Melissa's deck. Great vibe between the four of them too.
Still one of my favorite episodes of the whole series, I keep coming back to it, lol. I'm in the process of (VERY slowly...) building Nekusar and I just picked up Karametra for the distant future. LOVE this game!
Just watched this one again since i just bought the cards for my Karametra angel tribal deck and forgot what she ran in her enchantment cheese deck. But every time i see this episode, i am just disgusted by it. IMO most enchantments are way too cheap cmc wise, and too much of a hassle to remove in time. Wizards and their enchantments :/
I want Melissa’s decklist. I love the threros block and the fact that she made a whole commander deck centered around enchantments and enchantment creatures makes my heart happy
I love enchantment decks!
It costs so much. The cards she played in turn one alone or worth over $200
Dylan Enrigue Huntington yeah, magic be like that sometimes ;-;
I love the profs "ssss". It's great to see that even after commander 2019 nothing has changed haha
I had never seen this series. Very entertaining and well edited. Nice
18:55 the professor, the editing. loved that bit,
Right. I've watched this game several times and it still is awesome.
What stands out massively is that with all the banter going on, especially around 17:28, you can see the difference between the approach to the game.
Everyone is just having a laugh about the conversation happening, and while Melissa joins in, sort of, you can see she keeps scanning the board, looking at her hand, planning. She never takes her eyes off the ball. Lots of respect for that.
Jimmy: “I’m gonna play decimate”
Melissa: “oh no, anyway”
Come on Jimmy, Prof swings with a 0/1 and you don't sense shenanigans? Block that thing!
CodenameJD ,,,,, Ya but maybe he wants you to block. P
This is still one of my favourite GK episodes all these years later
Just love Melisa DeTora, one of the best mtg players of all time and not to mention her influence over mtg in general from her own creativity and experience. Very funny, very cool, hope to see more of her, Josh, Jimmy and Prof in the future of watching this channel!
These old episodes have so much charm... I love the new episodes, but re watching the old ones are just as good...
That was such a great match, everyone was basically on full steam, politics happened, swingy situations happened, Melissa won on grounds of how well she was able to avoid getting blown out, better than everyone on the table. And everyone had so much fun! I play EDH for that moment when everyone's ready to go off and win, and then the interactions happen.
First time I've watched your channel, as much as I enjoy playing magic ive never really enjoyed watching it. But you've done an amazing job making this fun and entertaining. Keep up the good work!
Melissa´s Sleeves make my brain hurt ^^
Tactical psychological-warfare sleeves. She's doing it right.
haha, I read your comment before watching the vid, so I skipped a couple of minutes to see her sleeves and I was like: "Maaan, I dont get it! where are the damn sleeves. All I see is Lotus!! Ohhh waaait..." :D but it took some time xD
Wow, the quality of production has come SO FAR, and yet, these original episodes were still absolutely amazing and well made. Glad I'm going back through them all!
09:12 is my favorite moment in this whole episode 😂
Agree
Melissa is a cool lady, loved her reaction to the deals thingy. Man, commander is a nice game mode isnt it?
Kaseto performed better than I expected, I never really thought much of it before.
12:14 I kept replaying this part...I also recently found this channel and I like it :D
This will forever remain my favorite episode of Game Knights
She is one of the coolest guests you guys have had both because she's super skilled but also because all the deal making seemed like such a completely different game than tournament play. Good stuff
Fell in love with Melissa, she used my two favorite colors in mtg and told all those pesky blue spells to F off and won.
- I'm watching this the 3d time! Awesome show and awesome people and decks! Its gotta be the best!
1 word:
MOAR
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You're production value is top notch, how is this not more popular?
TedTheZombie We're not sure. Tell your friends. Help us spread the word!
30:54
This segment makes the difference between a Pro and a Casual very clear. A casual would have simply played Starfield without much thought and would have most likely believed that it would be the winning move. Now, she as a Pro knows the risk, as she says it herself, of turning all her enchants into creatures, so she has this contingency on the field that allows her to reverse her bordstate to a much less attackable one if the need arises. This is an amazing portrayal of gameknowledge and the ability to predict her opponents potential moves from sheer experience.
I'm a new MTG player and this is so much easier to follow than the pro tournaments because you show the cards and explain them. This is great!
This episode was by far my favorite, which is weird because I keep saying that. Watching Melissa play Commander was a super cool experience, especially getting a look into a super spike's perspective on politics and deals which just doesn't happen in high-level magic. Unfortunately Prof didn't really get to show off his deck too much, but that's alright because his banter was A+.
Would love to see some more super spikes in future episodes like Marshall or Kenji.
I thought watching your vids was pointless since there is tons of cards in commander and I don't know what most of card. I didn't realize you would put so much work into it! Great video!
Glad to see one of my favorite cards - Fevered Visions - take a huge double damage toll on every one :D
The channel has come a long way