Yeah, he 100 percent did that on purpose. When you get Legion on board, Jacob is (rightly so) worried what will happen when Tali finds out Shepard plans to reactivate it. Besides, everyone and their uncle's brother know that Quarians and AI have unhappy history.
@@fameasser123 Thing is that others are much better to the point you dont even need to utilize them properly and they do their job by themselves. (Yes, everyone does occasionally the vaulting into enemies to get annihilated BUT some simply have much better AI that knows what to do). For me, Miranda and Kasumi died very rarely because of some stupid AI move and had really good skill set together. Solod the game with those 2.
@@DanielClear2 That moment when the Citadel Council, who promises to protect and defend it's members from threats, both foreign and domestic; instead exiles your entire race and forbids you from even colonizing a world in the Terminus systems. A region of space that they don't even have jurisdiction over.
I never heard that dialogue about Cerberus in the beginning. She always says something about those creepers and rachni, I had no clue that one single line is different depending on what you did in me1.
You get the Thorian Creeper and Rachni mention if you imported an ME1 save file. If it's a new playthrough starting from ME2 then you get the more general version we see in the video.
@@SpectreICollateral Not exactly. I've seen people with imported ME1 save files where Tali just says that she'll be in engineering. It's entirely possible to play through the main story of ME1 without ever encountering Cerberus, since they're only mentioned in side missions.
No no. He did this on purpose. Remember, Cerberus is a human-centric fascist group. He knew exactly what he was doing. The whole “I don’t hate aliens” thing is meant to fall apart as the game goes on, and this is just another example. He does the same to Thane, accusing an assassin of being a simple hired gun despite being a hired gun himself.
@@SoulKiller7Eternal That is exactly what I just fucking said. I said I wouldn't want a fucking assassin within a fucking mile of my six. That is exactly what Jacob said as well. Jacob said that an assassin is just a precise mercenary, his concern is more than valid. As much as I love Thane, his spiritual bullshit is exactly that bullshit. An assassin ain't a fuckin tool, they are a person hired to kill, an assassin accepts the contract, and decides to pull the trigger.
The whole "I dont hate Aliens" thing is definitely meant to fall apart. But Jacob is definitely not a part of that. He has a problem with Thane because he is an assasin, Jacob was never a hired gun, he was an alliance soldier that went to Cerberus and even directly calls them out on their shit multiple times. He also shows literally no problem with other aliens that are recruited. He has no problem with Garrus, doesnt say anything about Mordin, seems to straight up respect Samara. Dont know what you are talking about here.
Y’know I wasn’t even planning on it originally, but I eventually got fed up with Jacob in my latest playthrough and decided to let him die in the suicide mission. This is the first time I’m romancing Tali, and Jacob’s behavior here is unacceptable 😤 plus the conversation when thane and legion join
It was bad timing of him but I don't think he did anything genuinely wrong. He was just trying to be helpful, I think. I mean, he literally complimented Tali before. Tali was the one being sassy here, although that's justified.
I know the video doesn't really show this part of the game, but does anyone else notice how c*cky the Cerberus members are. Like literally in the suicide mission, they try to include themselves into everything that needs to be done and if you put them in that position they literally fail( Miranda with being team leader or Biotic shield and Jacob with hotwiring). They are the definition of all talk but no bite lol. Like I shut them down so fast in the mission.
They literally signed up to stop the threat of the collectors at any and all cost dude, they’re not being cocky, theyre just willing to do what it takes to ensure the missions success, that includes laying down their own lives. It’s literally a suicide mission, no one expects to survive through this, so if they can help ensure mission success they will. It’s that simple
Shepard: This is why no one likes you Jacob Jacob: What do you mean? Shepard: Look you're incredibly rude to anything that isn't a human and you're so bland that if someone tried to sell you to the Collectors you'd end up being passed over for a Batarian with only two eyes.
If Tali found out the hard way, she might throw overloads or shotgun slugs across the engine room. And with the words of Captain Ramirus: "Be carefull what you shoot at. Most things in here do not react well to bullets."
He's being nice here actually. No really think about it, Tali was bad mouthing Cerberus and he respectfully told her about EDI. JACOB IS MISUNDERSTOOD HERE!
Given the quarians' history with the geth, I find it hard to believe Jacob meant that nicely. I mean he could have told Tali to introduce herself to anyone on the ship. Why EDI of all of them?
@@commandershepard5854 I'm not sure, but I noticed that Jacob is rarely sarcastic. I mean unlike the rest of the crew, he's straightforward when it comes to his opinions. He doesn't hide from his mistakes or even tries to cover them with excuses. Looking at this specific scene though, Jacob's tone wasn't sarcastic. He didn't give her any nasty looks or tried to provoke her emotions in any harsh way, he just told her what he told the rest of the crew when Shepard recruited them...just an opinion though.
@@Ahmed1998gamer Yeah its the Bioware community for you. Hate a character for just doing his job. I actually like Jacob. I know I'm going to get flamed but... Heavy risk, but the Prize.
@@BubbleGum566 I believe the community hate him for what he does after ME2 if Femshep romanced him. The hate is understandable at this situation; still though, it's debatable. But this shouldn't make him a BAD SARCASTIC FULL OF BS TOWARDS EVERYONE kinda person. When playing as Broshep, Jacob was a very decent and respectful guy in ME 2 & 3, but again I understand the hate he gets if you play as Femshep and romance the guy.
@@BubbleGum566 i think that the thing with jacob is that he is a cool person, but as a character he isn't that great. he's definitely a guy you'd want to work with and a true professional, but as a character i don't think the writers knew what they were doing
@@antonioarredondo9680 Let's just say that Jacob moves on. I am not sure if what he does counts as adultery. That said it does feel like a betrayal even if it isn't.
@@antonioarredondo9680 In my experience, I have been in a number of situations that I genuinely believed were romantic relationships only to find out that the other person did not see it that way. It is heartbreaking I can assure you, but sometimes it really is hard to tell. With Jacob, I haven't seen anything that amounts to a romantic relationship. Granted most of the hook ups in the Mass Effect trilogy don't look like relationships to me. With Jacob there is a lot of flirty talk and a one night stand. I am not really sure what has been established here. Jack, Garrus, Tali, Thane, Liara are a few examples of romances that felt more genuine. There was more exchanged than flirtation. There seemed to be an emotional connection. They felt intimate. Jacob's romance basically boils down to "hey there big boy, let's have sex". I think given the intensity of all The Reaper threat and the fact Shepard has gone through hell and back on multiple life threatening missions, it can be easy to overestimate one's attachments. Jacob doesn't see himself in a relationship with Shepard. He views the situation as a one night stand with his boss. This is weird. Also Shepard is coming onto him really strong. Given the power imbalance, he probably felt forced into the situation. I do wonder if Jacob really had the power to say "no".
@@The482075 cant argue with that the romance with Jacob does seem more of a fling, but they even flirt in ME3 if you played Jacob once or twice (not that I did.... oops) and what you meant was "Shepard's gone through life and death and back from suicidal missions" she kindda did died (I used She because I normally do FemShep) and lastly, yes, the romance with the original cast plus Thane does feel more authentic, more lifelike I always enjoyed Garrus's romance subplot and Tali's
I kinda love it how everyone calls Jacob a dick for this scene, yet Tali was the first one who was hostile when he was friendly. And I love it how everyone acts like Jacob is mean to everyone, when he is only mean on purpose to Thane which is understandable and to Tali after SHE was hostile from the very beginning.
@@EteamProductions Thats called keeping your cool and being professional actually...might want to find out what professionalism means. She doesnt like him due to Cerebus and Jacob kept his calm and was polite, so...you sound just stupid now. Is he naive? Well of course...but unlike the cerebus cheerleader...Jacob is actually useful.
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I think that was definitely on purpose, the way he specified artificial intelligence, even though he didn’t do that with anyone else unless they asked
Yeah, he 100 percent did that on purpose. When you get Legion on board, Jacob is (rightly so) worried what will happen when Tali finds out Shepard plans to reactivate it. Besides, everyone and their uncle's brother know that Quarians and AI have unhappy history.
That's why you always end up in the damn vent
That's cruel :D
@@commandershepard5854 the truth usually is
@@commandershepard5854 Its not cruel, he signed up for it. You just gave him green to his ideas. 😂
@@Dark_Voice Can't argue with that :D
I mean, anyone but Tali, right? If she goes in the vent she gets dillusional and thinks you let her get set on fire. :3
Jacob: _Don't forget to introduce yourself to EDI, the ship's new artificial intelligence_
Tali: *toasts Jacob with overload*
Tali doesn’t have overload, but Jacob wouldn’t want to mess with her drone I’m sure. 😄
Wish she had overload, she could have been actually useful than.
But she has Energy drain
Tali was super useful if you know how to utilize her properly. At least through my playthrough she was a boss and not just eye candy for the player ;P
@@fameasser123 Thing is that others are much better to the point you dont even need to utilize them properly and they do their job by themselves. (Yes, everyone does occasionally the vaulting into enemies to get annihilated BUT some simply have much better AI that knows what to do).
For me, Miranda and Kasumi died very rarely because of some stupid AI move and had really good skill set together. Solod the game with those 2.
"Go for the optics, Chitika, go for the optics!"
Thats refference to Mińsk from baldurs gate
Chatika: *angry combat drone noices*
I know that look.
That's the equivalent of your wife calling you by your full name. You absolutely know you're in big trouble...
She has a shotgun
That look when your shackled AI gets sentient and you blame others.
Thanks Quarians!
@@DanielClear2 That moment when the Citadel Council, who promises to protect and defend it's members from threats, both foreign and domestic; instead exiles your entire race and forbids you from even colonizing a world in the Terminus systems. A region of space that they don't even have jurisdiction over.
@@nercksrule to be fair...... The quarians mostly deserved what they got
It's Jacob ensuring he won't survive the Collectors Base.
I couldn't tell if Jacob was being sarcastic or not. But I remember saying outloud, bad joke Jacob.
I remember laughing and saying "you could not have made this any worse Jacob"
I never heard that dialogue about Cerberus in the beginning. She always says something about those creepers and rachni, I had no clue that one single line is different depending on what you did in me1.
What you didn't i think. I didn't make sidequests in me1 during 1st walkthrough and got this dialogue
You get the Thorian Creeper and Rachni mention if you imported an ME1 save file. If it's a new playthrough starting from ME2 then you get the more general version we see in the video.
@@SpectreICollateral Not exactly. I've seen people with imported ME1 save files where Tali just says that she'll be in engineering. It's entirely possible to play through the main story of ME1 without ever encountering Cerberus, since they're only mentioned in side missions.
They sure did well to make sure no one could like Jacob.
He doesn't know that she has a Shotgun
So does he
@@atharvabarwe987 you missed the joke
@@atharvabarwe987 r/whoosh
@@PhoenixT70 go back to Reddit, basement dweller
@@atharvabarwe987 Never was on Reddit, it’s just a good meme.
Also, Jesus, you’re getting defensive over fuck-all. Take a chill pill, dude.
No no. He did this on purpose. Remember, Cerberus is a human-centric fascist group. He knew exactly what he was doing. The whole “I don’t hate aliens” thing is meant to fall apart as the game goes on, and this is just another example. He does the same to Thane, accusing an assassin of being a simple hired gun despite being a hired gun himself.
No wonder nobody likes him!
Seriously? I sure the hell wouldn't want an assassin watching my six. An he is a soldier not a hired gun, he just doesn't serve a government.
@@aauwhatitdo1582 Uh...no Thane is an assassin. Thats canon.
@@SoulKiller7Eternal That is exactly what I just fucking said. I said I wouldn't want a fucking assassin within a fucking mile of my six. That is exactly what Jacob said as well. Jacob said that an assassin is just a precise mercenary, his concern is more than valid. As much as I love Thane, his spiritual bullshit is exactly that bullshit. An assassin ain't a fuckin tool, they are a person hired to kill, an assassin accepts the contract, and decides to pull the trigger.
The whole "I dont hate Aliens" thing is definitely meant to fall apart. But Jacob is definitely not a part of that. He has a problem with Thane because he is an assasin, Jacob was never a hired gun, he was an alliance soldier that went to Cerberus and even directly calls them out on their shit multiple times. He also shows literally no problem with other aliens that are recruited. He has no problem with Garrus, doesnt say anything about Mordin, seems to straight up respect Samara. Dont know what you are talking about here.
Jacob better back off my boo. I would not hesitate to introduce him to the airlock.
Javik would be proud
Our* boo
he's too nice a guy for someone who knows how to kill people in so many ways
Jacob was clearly an antagonist here and I don't know why
That was a totally smooth dig by Jacob. Well played my man.
This is why even the SB cant find any value of Jacob...
jacob the vent god taylor
Y’know I wasn’t even planning on it originally, but I eventually got fed up with Jacob in my latest playthrough and decided to let him die in the suicide mission. This is the first time I’m romancing Tali, and Jacob’s behavior here is unacceptable 😤 plus the conversation when thane and legion join
- The ship's new *what*
and that's why she's my favourite ahah
Tali for the win! Jacob can go and float himself.
Tali is like *"Dude, really!?"*
I think its' more like "The ship's new WHAT?"
It's Jacob. The answer is stupid. Incredibly stupid. If Tali had turned him into a piece of toast right there I wouldn't have minded one bit.
...
She was pretty close to using that shotgun.
It was bad timing of him but I don't think he did anything genuinely wrong. He was just trying to be helpful, I think. I mean, he literally complimented Tali before. Tali was the one being sassy here, although that's justified.
Don't talk like that about yourself, Tali.
Yeah he knows _exactly_ what he did…..
I love how Tali is like "The what?"
She has a shot gun, and a stink-eye I could feel even with that helmet. I'm going to have to go with "incredibly stupid."
Bad joke, Jacob. Bad joke.
I know the video doesn't really show this part of the game, but does anyone else notice how c*cky the Cerberus members are. Like literally in the suicide mission, they try to include themselves into everything that needs to be done and if you put them in that position they literally fail( Miranda with being team leader or Biotic shield and Jacob with hotwiring). They are the definition of all talk but no bite lol. Like I shut them down so fast in the mission.
They literally signed up to stop the threat of the collectors at any and all cost dude, they’re not being cocky, theyre just willing to do what it takes to ensure the missions success, that includes laying down their own lives. It’s literally a suicide mission, no one expects to survive through this, so if they can help ensure mission success they will. It’s that simple
Shepard: This is why no one likes you Jacob
Jacob: What do you mean?
Shepard: Look you're incredibly rude to anything that isn't a human and you're so bland that if someone tried to sell you to the Collectors you'd end up being passed over for a Batarian with only two eyes.
If Tali found out the hard way, she might throw overloads or shotgun slugs across the engine room.
And with the words of Captain Ramirus: "Be carefull what you shoot at. Most things in here do not react well to bullets."
After all these years, the fact that she clearly walks into the wall still bothers me
She has a shotgun…
Definitely Sassy.
He's being nice here actually. No really think about it, Tali was bad mouthing Cerberus and he respectfully told her about EDI.
JACOB IS MISUNDERSTOOD HERE!
Given the quarians' history with the geth, I find it hard to believe Jacob meant that nicely. I mean he could have told Tali to introduce herself to anyone on the ship. Why EDI of all of them?
@@commandershepard5854 I'm not sure, but I noticed that Jacob is rarely sarcastic. I mean unlike the rest of the crew, he's straightforward when it comes to his opinions. He doesn't hide from his mistakes or even tries to cover them with excuses.
Looking at this specific scene though, Jacob's tone wasn't sarcastic. He didn't give her any nasty looks or tried to provoke her emotions in any harsh way, he just told her what he told the rest of the crew when Shepard recruited them...just an opinion though.
@@Ahmed1998gamer Yeah its the Bioware community for you. Hate a character for just doing his job. I actually like Jacob. I know I'm going to get flamed but...
Heavy risk, but the Prize.
@@BubbleGum566 I believe the community hate him for what he does after ME2 if Femshep romanced him. The hate is understandable at this situation; still though, it's debatable. But this shouldn't make him a BAD SARCASTIC FULL OF BS TOWARDS EVERYONE kinda person. When playing as Broshep, Jacob was a very decent and respectful guy in ME 2 & 3, but again I understand the hate he gets if you play as Femshep and romance the guy.
@@BubbleGum566 i think that the thing with jacob is that he is a cool person, but as a character he isn't that great. he's definitely a guy you'd want to work with and a true professional, but as a character i don't think the writers knew what they were doing
Romancing Jacob in Mass Effect 2 and 3 leads to interesting outcomes...
like Kasumi hating you for it?
@@antonioarredondo9680 Let's just say that Jacob moves on. I am not sure if what he does counts as adultery. That said it does feel like a betrayal even if it isn't.
@@The482075 I'd say it does considering you stablish something and he goes to Dr. Brynn anyway
@@antonioarredondo9680 In my experience, I have been in a number of situations that I genuinely believed were romantic relationships only to find out that the other person did not see it that way. It is heartbreaking I can assure you, but sometimes it really is hard to tell.
With Jacob, I haven't seen anything that amounts to a romantic relationship. Granted most of the hook ups in the Mass Effect trilogy don't look like relationships to me.
With Jacob there is a lot of flirty talk and a one night stand. I am not really sure what has been established here.
Jack, Garrus, Tali, Thane, Liara are a few examples of romances that felt more genuine. There was more exchanged than flirtation. There seemed to be an emotional connection. They felt intimate. Jacob's romance basically boils down to "hey there big boy, let's have sex".
I think given the intensity of all The Reaper threat and the fact Shepard has gone through hell and back on multiple life threatening missions, it can be easy to overestimate one's attachments.
Jacob doesn't see himself in a relationship with Shepard. He views the situation as a one night stand with his boss. This is weird. Also Shepard is coming onto him really strong. Given the power imbalance, he probably felt forced into the situation. I do wonder if Jacob really had the power to say "no".
@@The482075 cant argue with that
the romance with Jacob does seem more of a fling, but they even flirt in ME3 if you played Jacob once or twice (not that I did.... oops)
and what you meant was "Shepard's gone through life and death and back from suicidal missions"
she kindda did died (I used She because I normally do FemShep)
and lastly, yes, the romance with the original cast plus Thane does feel more authentic, more lifelike
I always enjoyed Garrus's romance subplot and Tali's
That looks she gives is pretty much "say one more stupid thing kaidan the 2nd A.K.A bland character."
Kaiden a bland character?!
Don't you DARE badminton kaiden
Kaidan is actually likeable tho.
Kaidan felt like an andromeda character to me lol
@@kyoumaVII Atleast Andromeda had Vetra and Drack.
Space racist
Spacist?
Jacob didnt know tali have historyk with geth, no body is perfect or he is Just blak
#TeamStupid
I kinda love it how everyone calls Jacob a dick for this scene, yet Tali was the first one who was hostile when he was friendly.
And I love it how everyone acts like Jacob is mean to everyone, when he is only mean on purpose to Thane which is understandable and to Tali after SHE was hostile from the very beginning.
This line was so out of character for jacob.
Tali started it and deserved it! Tali is best girl but I'm definitely team Jacob in this interaction lol
I actually thought this was hilarious and one of the best burns in the series , Jacob putting the entitled annoying suitrat in her place
Thats just Jacob being nice. I think the uploader doesn't understand that.
Neither does Jacob
@@EteamProductions You mean Miranda.
@@SoulKiller7Eternal No, Jacob doesn't understand how mentioning the AI to a quarian that dislikes you is bad mannered
@@EteamProductions Thats called keeping your cool and being professional actually...might want to find out what professionalism means.
She doesnt like him due to Cerebus and Jacob kept his calm and was polite, so...you sound just stupid now.
Is he naive? Well of course...but unlike the cerebus cheerleader...Jacob is actually useful.
@@SoulKiller7Eternal Imagine defending Jacob so bad and missing the point of why Tali was offended at his comment about AI, I feel bad for you lol