Use two straps, both wrapped around the pad. Then, move the clips in away from the edge of the pad (2 to 3 inchesin, from the edges of the pad). That prevents the "quilt killer" issue, and it ensures that the quilt stays wrapped around you better. I’ve found that limits cold drafts the best.
Great video for new quilt users. I have exactly the same quilt. On cold nights, I have even attached the quilt directly to itself in the top section instead of using the strap. You just have to kind of hold the quilt in place when you turn around. Another thing to experiment with is where to place the bottom strap (that goes around the pad). I like it just below my butt, with the clips rather close together if it's cold. This increases the angle that the quilt sides make towards the top of your body, minimizing drafts. I also tend to use a (stretchy) liner (Sea to Summit Reactor), which further reduces the sensation of drafts. The only annoying thing is that my arms need to be outside the liner because I need to be able to adjust the quilt when turning around.
I haven't tried that. I seem to like the pad assisting me with keeping the quilt in place. Do you end up squishing the insulation by wrapping it so tight?
@@AdventuresInReach You do end up lying on top of the quilt edges, of course. It becomes like a sleeping bag in a way. In my experience it gives maximum warmth, though... Give it a try! Everybody is different, but the nice thing about quilts is how easily you can adjust things to your preference.
Huh? Are you trying to say you wrap the quilt around your body without hassling about with attachments to the camping mattress or something of the sort?
@@haliaeetus8221 The bottom strap remains attached to the pad with both attachments points very close together. The top strap I sometimes don't use and then I just attach the quilt to itself. I think EE mention this somewhere in their instruction video.
I hammock camp, so I don't have the drafting issues thanks to the second underquilt. However... I can see the value of a sleeping bag for those out there tossing and turning. that looked cold
If the straps are set up well and you're halfway conscious when rolling, it's really not cold. That being said, I always bring a sleeping bag when winter camping.
I prefer using a quilt as I find sleeping bags too confining, but I don’t camp below 30 degrees! I have 2 quilts that my wife made for me: a light one for summer, a heavier one for cooler weather, and I use them together when it’s cold. The lighter one is extra large and gets wrapped around me if I’m cold. Yes, it’s heavy, but I usually camp on my bike or one of my boats. No down! Everything gets weight when I camp. Synthetics work better for me.
That's great. I'm supportive of anything that works and it sounds like you found a solution for yourself. I only use my quilt 3 season. It's funny because I actually prefer being confined in a sleeping bag, but I prefer carrying less weight even more.
The down that is used for our insulation is underneath the outside feathers on birds. It's like the undercoat on a dog vs the guard hairs. I've watched our collie go swimming, get out, shake off, be wet on the outside but dry underneath his guard hairs. When we remove the hairs or feathers that seal water out, we are left with vulnerable, but highly effective, insulation.
Thanks for the honest feedback. I actually went back and reviewed the retention data and ended up cutting out those first 11 seconds of the video. I truly appreciate helpful feedback. If you want to come back and watch without the organic chemistry part, feel free!
The funny thing is that I prefer a sleeping bag as well--I use a quilt for backpacking because it's lighter, which to me is worth the small hassle and learning curve. Quilts are still surprisingly warm, comfortable, and ... lightweight.
Yeah, if you're sleeping on a pad on the ground, I dont really get why people dont just use a bag. But if you're like me and prefer to sleep in a hammock while camping, a top and bottom quilt combo make more sense.
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Thank you! Much appreciated!
Have you tried the zenbivy core sheet with the sleeping quilt?
Use two straps, both wrapped around the pad. Then, move the clips in away from the edge of the pad (2 to 3 inchesin, from the edges of the pad). That prevents the "quilt killer" issue, and it ensures that the quilt stays wrapped around you better. I’ve found that limits cold drafts the best.
Great video for new quilt users. I have exactly the same quilt. On cold nights, I have even attached the quilt directly to itself in the top section instead of using the strap. You just have to kind of hold the quilt in place when you turn around. Another thing to experiment with is where to place the bottom strap (that goes around the pad). I like it just below my butt, with the clips rather close together if it's cold. This increases the angle that the quilt sides make towards the top of your body, minimizing drafts.
I also tend to use a (stretchy) liner (Sea to Summit Reactor), which further reduces the sensation of drafts. The only annoying thing is that my arms need to be outside the liner because I need to be able to adjust the quilt when turning around.
I haven't tried that. I seem to like the pad assisting me with keeping the quilt in place. Do you end up squishing the insulation by wrapping it so tight?
@@AdventuresInReach You do end up lying on top of the quilt edges, of course. It becomes like a sleeping bag in a way. In my experience it gives maximum warmth, though... Give it a try! Everybody is different, but the nice thing about quilts is how easily you can adjust things to your preference.
Huh? Are you trying to say you wrap the quilt around your body without hassling about with attachments to the camping mattress or something of the sort?
@@haliaeetus8221 The bottom strap remains attached to the pad with both attachments points very close together. The top strap I sometimes don't use and then I just attach the quilt to itself. I think EE mention this somewhere in their instruction video.
@@jorisev ok 👍
Interesting info. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Good information. Thank you.
Thank you for watching. I hope it's helpful.
Thank you foe watching. I hope it's helpful.
I hammock camp, so I don't have the drafting issues thanks to the second underquilt. However... I can see the value of a sleeping bag for those out there tossing and turning. that looked cold
If the straps are set up well and you're halfway conscious when rolling, it's really not cold. That being said, I always bring a sleeping bag when winter camping.
I prefer using a quilt as I find sleeping bags too confining, but I don’t camp below 30 degrees! I have 2 quilts that my wife made for me: a light one for summer, a heavier one for cooler weather, and I use them together when it’s cold. The lighter one is extra large and gets wrapped around me if I’m cold. Yes, it’s heavy, but I usually camp on my bike or one of my boats. No down! Everything gets weight when I camp. Synthetics work better for me.
That's great. I'm supportive of anything that works and it sounds like you found a solution for yourself. I only use my quilt 3 season. It's funny because I actually prefer being confined in a sleeping bag, but I prefer carrying less weight even more.
@@AdventuresInReach I camp a lot out on the water in my kayak or one of my canoes. Being stuck in a sleeping bag at the wrong time would be bad!
I know you are not supposed to let down get wet, but for the life of me I don't understand how the ducks and geese manage that trick lol
The down that is used for our insulation is underneath the outside feathers on birds. It's like the undercoat on a dog vs the guard hairs. I've watched our collie go swimming, get out, shake off, be wet on the outside but dry underneath his guard hairs. When we remove the hairs or feathers that seal water out, we are left with vulnerable, but highly effective, insulation.
When you go naming your gear and it sounds like organic chemistry equasions, that's my que to hide the video and scroll on.
Thanks for the honest feedback. I actually went back and reviewed the retention data and ended up cutting out those first 11 seconds of the video. I truly appreciate helpful feedback. If you want to come back and watch without the organic chemistry part, feel free!
🤔 and people like that better than a bag? Baffled. Utterly unimpressed.
The funny thing is that I prefer a sleeping bag as well--I use a quilt for backpacking because it's lighter, which to me is worth the small hassle and learning curve. Quilts are still surprisingly warm, comfortable, and ... lightweight.
You may want to watch the earlier video (if you haven’t already seen it) as it demonstrates why quilts are sometimes a better choice.
@@clydeosterhout1221 Any air gap is too much for me unless I've done it intentionally. I will check out the other video though. I haven't seen it.
Yeah, if you're sleeping on a pad on the ground, I dont really get why people dont just use a bag. But if you're like me and prefer to sleep in a hammock while camping, a top and bottom quilt combo make more sense.