Thank you for responding with a video! very pleased with this response. Hopefully it'll help out more people considering which DAW is best for them in a particular field. Cheers again Christian! - EJ
I was speaking to Hans’ guitarist Guthrie Govan about him, and he said cubase actually send him every version pre-release to find out what he wants, needs, does and doesn’t like so they can change it for him. It’s basically become his DAW that others use
Thanks for this! This is very informative. I got pro tools a few months ago largely due to your setup and advice. Love this page, love what you do with Spitfire. You truly are giving us value man.
Can you do a tutorial on syncing Pro tools with logic? I watched a video by Sheridan, where he syncs the two draws together but I don't know how to do that. A small video production tip for you. Turn off continuous AF off on the PGH5, and set it one area, or object tracking for when you are walking. That way it won't contine to focus all the time on the foreground and the background. I watched a video for setting up the GH4 for film making and it was helpful.
Thank you Christian. The 'aha' moment is strong with this one. Love watching your videos - informative and enjoyable. Clearly directing and editing are two more quality strings to your bow.
Thank you for the insight, Christian. I'm a long time Logic user currently studying MA Audio Production at Westminster and I've been getting bored of the dogma around Pro Tools. This video has been the most persuasive argument I've heard yet...and there have been too many arguments!
I always recommend using whatever feels intuitive to you, software that makes you create more music and less fiddling with a computer. I use Logic and Live and Cubase and more but my master machine is mostly running Reason. Core MIDI Network sessions makes me play slave computers from Reason.
Always something really useful to learn from your posts Christian - thank you. I personally use Logic as PT (in the past at least) was considered more of a engineers application as opposed to a compositional tool, though it's all obviously all crossed over a lot more of recent times. Coming from a graphic design background means the GUI is quite important to me too & Logic for me certainly has the clearest & most (logical) interface though as yourself I hate the icons so I made my own based on inputs (XLR, Combi, TRS, Midi sockets). Ableton?? Christ! what a car-crash that looks (italic headers???) & Cubase just looks like a work in progress. Quite surprised when saw HZ using it in his Masterclass series. Each to their own and all that..
I use Logic Pro X for Music Programming, Protools First for Sound Recording & Editing, Mixbus for Sound Mixing. These tools always save my valuable time. Thanks to Spitfire Audio and Universal Audio to make available of great products that allow me to experience a rich quality of sound
I would say Logic appeals more to the Composer and the Music Maker, Pro Tools appeals to the Audio Engineer, the Sound Editor, and the Mixer, both are amazing in their own ways and both have great purposes
Please do a tutorial on how changing tempos and piping audio from logic to protools work with logic sunk to protools. Thank you for explain the basics for how the two days are fundamentally different!
I can’t quite understand the problem (the speak is a bit fast in this video).. I’m working on a current project using only Logic, where I’m using a project as a sort of “master”, where the full video is. This project is set to show LTC and the video and project synchronization settings are aligned according to LTC. Then I create separate project files for each individual cue - using MTC in these files. Here I align the project bar 1 with the cues start-point (timecode) in the sync menu. When I bounce the audio from the cue-project-files, and head over to the master, I can then use the command in the ctrl-menu to move it to the correct LTC-point in the movie (using the file’s embedded LTC), and do the final mixing. If I need to change something afterwards, I can just change sync-settings... - How is this workflow different from the workflow described in the video?
What an Effing brilliant film. Christian nails it here... Having used Protools HD2 years ago, and now using Reaper, Ableton etc, I am thinking about getting PT again as the 'final compiler' against film, that goes out the door, so to speak. Logic is great at MIDI, but never liked its audio processing. My idea (and maybe others do this) is to use Ableton, Reaper etc etc and mix all these DAW's cues down to one 'final mix' in PT.
There are many that consider that Logic sounds 'soft'. There is an argument that says we are actually all mad and deluded for thinking this way. I think not.
How you manage to find the time and energy, in addition to running Spitfire and bankrolling Virgin Trains, to write film music AND do vlogs in this extraordinary way (mine pale into absurd dilettantism by comparison) I do not know! I think it's brilliant that you do them at all. What's SUPER-brilliant is that you do them so fucking well! And on a day like today, when I'm gazing at my screen feeling underwhelmed with ambivalence, you're a galvanising inspiration! I HAD to acquaint myself with Pro Tools, as the course I did at Islington Music Workshop boasted an SSL 4000G desk (they've since downsized) which - as I believe all SSL desks do - ran on Pro Tools. Managing to scrape together the money for an educational version (which, by the way, I can no longer use because AVID will not be supporting High Sierra), I did rather get the whiff of "you're not our core customer" from AVID's after-sales, and so feeling somewhat irrelevant I stuck to the altogether more affordable Logic. However, in addition to all the things you mention (and I'm going to have to go back and slow you down so I can make a note of everything!) I've always noticed a distinct difference in sound quality between Logic and PT. The tracks of mine where I did use Pro Tools (for example my "Financial Crisis" remix of Grace Jones' 'Corporate Cannibal' and with apologies for the shameless self-publicity, here's the link: soundcloud.com/classicalbanksy/corporate-cannibal-grace-jones-remixed-by-simon-roberts) I got a kind of sophisticated sheen, a warm 'shimmer' to the sound I've never been able to replicate with Logic. And it's this (at least ostensibly) more than the technical advantages you illustrate, that's the reason I've decided to come back to PT. With my first short film-score now behind me, and with a debut album that is I believe a genuinely progressive fusion of opera and pop, I wanted to hear this more mature repertoire produced with that Pro Tools quality. And as for AVID's 'cold shoulder?" I guess they must have listened to a track or two, because I now sit on the ACA technological advisory council. Sandy will be Gobsmacked!
I concur regarding the 'sound' of the software (other than enjoying your English more generally sir). Pro Tools, Logic, Cubase here. Pro Tools and Cubase are 'cleaner'. Indeed Cubase is now 64 bit though I haven't partaken yet. I'm going to check out your apologetic shout out to yourself now LOL!
Decent attempt with the remix - but for one thing, the mix is horrifically muddy. It seems like you have a lot of stuff playing consecutively with little mixing occurring, and nothing really punches through to the listener. I would equate the effect of this track with listening to something akin to the original through water, I can hear the elements of the track if I listen very closely, but even the synth strings throughout require a lot of listening to identify. I assume you have EQd everything and then compressed it, which has removed 90% of the potential dynamics that this track has. Under all that, though, are some good ideas, such as the use of the vocal samples. It just really requires some learning on the mixing front. Remove the fluff, keep the essentials, mix them, add the fluff back in once you have solid foundations. Don't think high concept, think practically about what works and sounds right. Good effort so far.
I'm a Cubase man myself and I've always looked at it thusly; Pro Tools is exactly that, it's a tool, like a spanner, which is highly practical for certain jobs. Cubase and other DAWs are more like a paintbrush.
Ok so let me pose this question: What about a locked cut?, specifically one that does not go to different dubbing stages (Where pro tools would be a must for file swapping) Why not use Logic then? I'm in no way disagreeing with the tip of just having pro-tools in your back pocket just in case the director does a ridley and re-cuts it.... but recently was able to do an entire (Indie) film mix using logic (dialogue, foley, location sound edit with RX 6, score etc) And it actually worked out really well. I know I had the luxury of not having a new cut to work to every few weeks, but I was doing this as a test to see if Logic was able to handle the integration of RX 6, fade in's/out's, ADR replacement sync etc, and I think it did really well. I personally hate using pro tools (To each there own ok) But do use when needed, I just feel, and i'm probably in the minority here, that logic is fast catching up to be close enough in features to pro tools to be able to use. Maybe i'm absolutely wrong but i'd like to ask that question! Like I said, had they slipped in a slight cut of the film along the way, I would have been semi-fucked, and pro-tools is the better choice for typical back and forth productions, but i much prefer using my DAW of choice as much as I can, even for film mix. I know i'm gonna get decimated by the pro re-mixers out there, but you know what... It worked so thats all that matters right?
Definitely agree with your use of Pro Tools. If anything its worth it just to be familiar with the software. I'll throw in a +1 for Reaper though. I find it often gets disregarded due to its low price tag, but as someone who as used all of the mentioned DAWs, I find that its efficiency and customisability is a cut above.
The composer (Wilbert Roget II) for the new Call of Duty did his whole project in Reaper, so it's certainly good enough for the pros! I personally just don't like how it looks... :D
J-M that's very cool I did not know that! If you're at all interested in giving it another go you can download some really nice themes for it, which really brighten it up.
Hey! thanks for this. Any way we can work around the communication delay between the DAWs? When I hit play in Logic it always take a few bars to start pro tools, and also there is no scrub function, so I find it hard to hit cues precisely. Appreciate any help!
I use a similar setup with Logic as my main composing tool but I actually use Reaper where you use pro tools. I also use it sometimes for composing because of the fact you can have monitor fx, and project tabs. Using Kontakt memory server etc to keep loading times minimal I can have all cues open in separate tabs like a web browser and just flick between them, copy, paste etc. I still feel it's a version or two away from being as good at midi as Logic but it's getting there.
Hey Christian love your vlogs, super insightful and inspiring. I have a question as an aspiring composer/music producer whether it's possible to work in both media/film and the more pop/radio side of the job? Are the two quite different in their approach to making a living or can they co-exist together? If that makes sense. Keep up the awesome work!
Hey Christian, can you please explain the way you get audio (Dialog & Temps) from ProTools to Logic internally on your mac?! Thanky you very much in advance and always enjoy your experienced words and thoughts!
Professor Henson, Do you run Protools in the background on the same machine as Logic? I think I'm going to get this going, but I'd like to use my laptop to do the Protools bit, and free up a little CPU on the main rig.
Unless, you have a locked cut - constantly track-laying cues into the PT session and updating them for each updated cut is a lot of extra work for you (or your assistant) no?
Hey Christian / others who might read this. What does anybody know about Pro Tools First, the new (?) free version. Possible to use this for the purpose outlined here of synchronization and delivery, et cetera? Does anybody know? Thanks ever so much.
Ableton is a quad bike ?? On for week ends ? There is quite interesting stuff to do with it and Max4Live ! Or am I the only one believing in Ableton? 🥺
Thanks for this Christian, reminded me to put Pro Tools on my wishlist. Quick question you may have addressed already, what's your favorite trick or post fix to reduce room noise? For example, if you need to sample something quick but don't have access to a perfectly quiet space, what can you do in post? Hope you're having a good weekend!
Yes, I think I kind of state that here. It's good to get away from Sequencing and move on to recording and mixing, very different parts of the brain I think.
I feel like a crazy person for using Reaper for composing... I'm still starting out and that's what I can afford, so I'm kindof stuck, at least for now... But my actual question is: In a professional setting does it matter, what are you using for composing, as long as you deliver in pro tools in the end? And as always, your videos are an amazing inspiration!
I would say (not that I know much about it) is that your DAW only matters when you are working as an assistant to another composer (a popular way of entering into the business). If the person you are assisting is using Logic, you should use Logic as well because it streamlines workflow a lot. But if you are working solo, and you are the HoD (something Christian often talks about) for the score, it doesn't matter.
First, as an American, I must say I loved the embedded presidential dig in this one ;-). Don't ask me how that man got elected, and I live here... Second, I would be interested to hear why more media composer don't just use Pro Tools for their composition work and eliminate all the other programs (Logic, Cubase, etc.)? I'm curious because I don't have a lot of experience with MIDI in PT but I'm constantly hearing about all the progress they've made, etc.
What I mean is... why not do your cue compositions in one PT session and bring them into the “master” or “HOD” session in PT and completely eliminate Logic. Why use Logic at all? Are there SPECIFIC things that Logic does that PT can’t?
petercalandra Agreed. What MIDI feature(s) are people missing in PT? I work completely in PT and cannot imagine any feature that could justify the extra work of going back and forth between 2 DAWs.
While i generally agree with your view, I do understand why people use both in tandem. BTW, there were some features in Studio Vision Pro (my previous sequencer back in the 1990's) that i still miss. Nested Subsequences, Advanced Transposition tools like invert, Retrograde etc....
Really cool. Thank you. When you say syncing ProTools to Logic you mean they are actually running together in real time on the same computer when hitting play or you mean they are both running on the same computer and you just jump from one to the other and while one is playing the other is just waiting in the background peacefully for you to come back?
Christian Henson Music that would be really cool thanks Christian! I did Performer to Digital Performer from versions 1-5 and then jumped to Logic versions 8-9 and before Logic X jumped back to Digital Performer 8 and now 9.5 ... but coincidentally just today I jumped back to Logic X to give it a try, so this video is reassuring and super fitting. VEP on Logic X is a mega mess though I’m finding out. Are you loading everything VIs directly in Logic and disabling/enabling channels? Apologies if there’s another video of yours where this might be talked about. Thank you so much for the content and the VIs. M.
Well, that wouldn't be the INTERNET if some loudmouth wasn't there to defend DigitalPerformer, and at the moment nobody has, so I guess I'll have to do it... I've been a PT user for a very long time, alongside DP, for exactly the same reasons you were expressing ; one is an audio recorder at heart, the other is a MIDI sequencer, but I've also used Live and Reaper and I don't understand the criticism DP gets about its nomenclature and its workflow... My fluency in "DP speak" hasn't confused me or made me incapable of using other softs, so I don't really see what pisses people off in DP (Ok, chunks? But you were jealous of them when talking to Dario Marianelli, if I remember well? :) ) Cheers from fu... cold Canada.
Cubase has come on legions for Mac of recent. I gave up on Pro Tools due to endless crashing and weak midi implementation years ago. The company behind it has had its fair share of issues scaling to native. Logic was sort of OK but there were many deep things that were clumsy and made no sense... illogical. I have found Cubase to be the best advanced midi capable audio recorder for native on Mac. Tomatoes... tomaytoes. Pro Tools though... industry standard for delivery in your game. Great to see your breakdown, only disagree with 'If you are an Apple user, use Logic'... No thank you.
Mmm! As always a great take on media composition. But as always it’s ‘different strokes for different folks’ I’ve been a media composer for over twenty years and as a once upon a time Logic/Pro Tools user my experience has taken me back to working in a single DAW - Logic. I understand the potential confusion when working with a lot of cues but organization and keeping a list of time codes where cues start and stop have proved to be less confusing than the hybrid solution. But hey! That’s just me. Thanks again for your time and dedication to not only helping fledgling composers but also oldies like me. Sterling stuff:)
Long time Cubase/Ableton/Tools user but Reaper wins hands down!! I'm experimenting with the newest version of AATranslator to convert Reaper projects direct to Tools for delivery..
When you are starting out you really shouldnt spend that much money on what gear to get and what software and sounds to buy. Those are things for later! You should focus on the actual composing and practicing that instead of worrying about working in Logic instead of Cubase for example.
Thank you for responding with a video! very pleased with this response. Hopefully it'll help out more people considering which DAW is best for them in a particular field. Cheers again Christian! - EJ
I was speaking to Hans’ guitarist Guthrie Govan about him, and he said cubase actually send him every version pre-release to find out what he wants, needs, does and doesn’t like so they can change it for him. It’s basically become his DAW that others use
Sam Fuller it would be cool if Apple did this with Christian and Spitfire lol
I realize I'm pretty randomly asking but do anybody know a good place to stream new series online ?
@Maverick Elias Lately I have been using flixzone. Just google for it =)
The full circle of the edits coming back to the kitchen - nice touch and great video!
I love your response to Trump's cameo at 5:03 :)
Thanks for this! This is very informative. I got pro tools a few months ago largely due to your setup and advice.
Love this page, love what you do with Spitfire. You truly are giving us value man.
That was the first explanation that has made any sense to me. Thank you!
Can you do a tutorial on syncing Pro tools with logic? I watched a video by Sheridan, where he syncs the two draws together but I don't know how to do that.
A small video production tip for you. Turn off continuous AF off on the PGH5, and set it one area, or object tracking for when you are walking. That way it won't contine to focus all the time on the foreground and the background. I watched a video for setting up the GH4 for film making and it was helpful.
Thank you Christian. The 'aha' moment is strong with this one. Love watching your videos - informative and enjoyable. Clearly directing and editing are two more quality strings to your bow.
You’re vlogs are so entertaining. Great stuff CH!
My mind has been blown on a Sunday by what the beginning actually is...I need to watch this again. Aaaaaarrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhhh.
Your Vlogs are like a collection of pilgrim's staffs for musical journeys. Thanks for this friendly sharing.
"This is technically known in our business as a complete fucking car crash."
THE WAY YOU JUST CHANGED TO INFORMAL SPEAKING HAD ME DEAD 😂😂😂
Thank you for the insight, Christian. I'm a long time Logic user currently studying MA Audio Production at Westminster and I've been getting bored of the dogma around Pro Tools. This video has been the most persuasive argument I've heard yet...and there have been too many arguments!
I always recommend using whatever feels intuitive to you, software that makes you create more music and less fiddling with a computer. I use Logic and Live and Cubase and more but my master machine is mostly running Reason. Core MIDI Network sessions makes me play slave computers from Reason.
I STILL really need to see that composer's cape
Really useful video-thanks so much Christian!
Always something really useful to learn from your posts Christian - thank you. I personally use Logic as PT (in the past at least) was considered more of a engineers application as opposed to a compositional tool, though it's all obviously all crossed over a lot more of recent times. Coming from a graphic design background means the GUI is quite important to me too & Logic for me certainly has the clearest & most (logical) interface though as yourself I hate the icons so I made my own based on inputs (XLR, Combi, TRS, Midi sockets). Ableton?? Christ! what a car-crash that looks (italic headers???) & Cubase just looks like a work in progress. Quite surprised when saw HZ using it in his Masterclass series. Each to their own and all that..
I use Logic Pro X for Music Programming, Protools First for Sound Recording & Editing, Mixbus for Sound Mixing. These tools always save my valuable time. Thanks to Spitfire Audio and Universal Audio to make available of great products that allow me to experience a rich quality of sound
I would say Logic appeals more to the Composer and the Music Maker, Pro Tools appeals to the Audio Engineer, the Sound Editor, and the Mixer, both are amazing in their own ways and both have great purposes
Please do a tutorial on how changing tempos and piping audio from logic to protools work with logic sunk to protools. Thank you for explain the basics for how the two days are fundamentally different!
I can’t quite understand the problem (the speak is a bit fast in this video)..
I’m working on a current project using only Logic, where I’m using a project as a sort of “master”, where the full video is. This project is set to show LTC and the video and project synchronization settings are aligned according to LTC.
Then I create separate project files for each individual cue - using MTC in these files. Here I align the project bar 1 with the cues start-point (timecode) in the sync menu. When I bounce the audio from the cue-project-files, and head over to the master, I can then use the command in the ctrl-menu to move it to the correct LTC-point in the movie (using the file’s embedded LTC), and do the final mixing.
If I need to change something afterwards, I can just change sync-settings...
- How is this workflow different from the workflow described in the video?
i concur. i'm struggling with understanding the reasoning in this one as well.
What an Effing brilliant film. Christian nails it here...
Having used Protools HD2 years ago, and now using Reaper, Ableton etc, I am thinking about getting PT again as the 'final compiler' against film, that
goes out the door, so to speak. Logic is great at MIDI, but never liked its audio processing. My idea (and maybe others do this) is to use Ableton, Reaper etc etc and mix all these
DAW's cues down to one 'final mix' in PT.
There are many that consider that Logic sounds 'soft'. There is an argument that says we are actually all mad and deluded for thinking this way. I think not.
How you manage to find the time and energy, in addition to running Spitfire and bankrolling Virgin Trains, to write film music AND do vlogs in this extraordinary way (mine pale into absurd dilettantism by comparison) I do not know! I think it's brilliant that you do them at all. What's SUPER-brilliant is that you do them so fucking well! And on a day like today, when I'm gazing at my screen feeling underwhelmed with ambivalence, you're a galvanising inspiration! I HAD to acquaint myself with Pro Tools, as the course I did at Islington Music Workshop boasted an SSL 4000G desk (they've since downsized) which - as I believe all SSL desks do - ran on Pro Tools. Managing to scrape together the money for an educational version (which, by the way, I can no longer use because AVID will not be supporting High Sierra), I did rather get the whiff of "you're not our core customer" from AVID's after-sales, and so feeling somewhat irrelevant I stuck to the altogether more affordable Logic. However, in addition to all the things you mention (and I'm going to have to go back and slow you down so I can make a note of everything!) I've always noticed a distinct difference in sound quality between Logic and PT. The tracks of mine where I did use Pro Tools (for example my "Financial Crisis" remix of Grace Jones' 'Corporate Cannibal' and with apologies for the shameless self-publicity, here's the link: soundcloud.com/classicalbanksy/corporate-cannibal-grace-jones-remixed-by-simon-roberts) I got a kind of sophisticated sheen, a warm 'shimmer' to the sound I've never been able to replicate with Logic. And it's this (at least ostensibly) more than the technical advantages you illustrate, that's the reason I've decided to come back to PT. With my first short film-score now behind me, and with a debut album that is I believe a genuinely progressive fusion of opera and pop, I wanted to hear this more mature repertoire produced with that Pro Tools quality. And as for AVID's 'cold shoulder?" I guess they must have listened to a track or two, because I now sit on the ACA technological advisory council. Sandy will be Gobsmacked!
I concur regarding the 'sound' of the software (other than enjoying your English more generally sir). Pro Tools, Logic, Cubase here. Pro Tools and Cubase are 'cleaner'. Indeed Cubase is now 64 bit though I haven't partaken yet. I'm going to check out your apologetic shout out to yourself now LOL!
Decent attempt with the remix - but for one thing, the mix is horrifically muddy.
It seems like you have a lot of stuff playing consecutively with little mixing occurring, and nothing really punches through to the listener. I would equate the effect of this track with listening to something akin to the original through water, I can hear the elements of the track if I listen very closely, but even the synth strings throughout require a lot of listening to identify. I assume you have EQd everything and then compressed it, which has removed 90% of the potential dynamics that this track has.
Under all that, though, are some good ideas, such as the use of the vocal samples. It just really requires some learning on the mixing front. Remove the fluff, keep the essentials, mix them, add the fluff back in once you have solid foundations. Don't think high concept, think practically about what works and sounds right. Good effort so far.
I'm a Cubase man myself and I've always looked at it thusly; Pro Tools is exactly that, it's a tool, like a spanner, which is highly practical for certain jobs. Cubase and other DAWs are more like a paintbrush.
I love how is it that doesn't matter how much you try, this questions doesn't have an exact answer.
Ok so let me pose this question: What about a locked cut?, specifically one that does not go to different dubbing stages (Where pro tools would be a must for file swapping) Why not use Logic then? I'm in no way disagreeing with the tip of just having pro-tools in your back pocket just in case the director does a ridley and re-cuts it.... but recently was able to do an entire (Indie) film mix using logic (dialogue, foley, location sound edit with RX 6, score etc) And it actually worked out really well. I know I had the luxury of not having a new cut to work to every few weeks, but I was doing this as a test to see if Logic was able to handle the integration of RX 6, fade in's/out's, ADR replacement sync etc, and I think it did really well. I personally hate using pro tools (To each there own ok) But do use when needed, I just feel, and i'm probably in the minority here, that logic is fast catching up to be close enough in features to pro tools to be able to use. Maybe i'm absolutely wrong but i'd like to ask that question!
Like I said, had they slipped in a slight cut of the film along the way, I would have been semi-fucked, and pro-tools is the better choice for typical back and forth productions, but i much prefer using my DAW of choice as much as I can, even for film mix. I know i'm gonna get decimated by the pro re-mixers out there, but you know what... It worked so thats all that matters right?
Definitely agree with your use of Pro Tools. If anything its worth it just to be familiar with the software.
I'll throw in a +1 for Reaper though. I find it often gets disregarded due to its low price tag, but as someone who as used all of the mentioned DAWs, I find that its efficiency and customisability is a cut above.
The composer (Wilbert Roget II) for the new Call of Duty did his whole project in Reaper, so it's certainly good enough for the pros! I personally just don't like how it looks... :D
J-M that's very cool I did not know that! If you're at all interested in giving it another go you can download some really nice themes for it, which really brighten it up.
Oh, I know that things have progressed quite nicely since I've tried it. But I'm quite happy with my Cubase at the moment. ;)
Christian, do you use PT and Logic on the same system?
Hey! thanks for this. Any way we can work around the communication delay between the DAWs? When I hit play in Logic it always take a few bars to start pro tools, and also there is no scrub function, so I find it hard to hit cues precisely. Appreciate any help!
Thanks, Christian! Do you recommend ProTools and Logic Pro on the same computer?
I use a similar setup with Logic as my main composing tool but I actually use Reaper where you use pro tools. I also use it sometimes for composing because of the fact you can have monitor fx, and project tabs. Using Kontakt memory server etc to keep loading times minimal I can have all cues open in separate tabs like a web browser and just flick between them, copy, paste etc. I still feel it's a version or two away from being as good at midi as Logic but it's getting there.
Hey Christian love your vlogs, super insightful and inspiring. I have a question as an aspiring composer/music producer whether it's possible to work in both media/film and the more pop/radio side of the job? Are the two quite different in their approach to making a living or can they co-exist together? If that makes sense. Keep up the awesome work!
Hey Christian, can you please explain the way you get audio (Dialog & Temps) from ProTools to Logic internally on your mac?! Thanky you very much in advance and always enjoy your experienced words and thoughts!
Which version of ProTools to get? Or doesn't it matter, or is it a case of "it depends"?
Professor Henson, Do you run Protools in the background on the same machine as Logic? I think I'm going to get this going, but I'd like to use my laptop to do the Protools bit, and free up a little CPU on the main rig.
You mentioned that having two cues in different scales/keys is "easy to fix." How do you go about fixing that?
Unless, you have a locked cut - constantly track-laying cues into the PT session and updating them for each updated cut is a lot of extra work for you (or your assistant) no?
Hey Christian / others who might read this. What does anybody know about Pro Tools First, the new (?) free version. Possible to use this for the purpose outlined here of synchronization and delivery, et cetera? Does anybody know? Thanks ever so much.
Late question here, but do you generally output 24bit and 48khz for tv/movie work? Or 44.1 khz?
Brian Tyler uses ProTools with a VEpro rig. I would like to hear his take on the experience.
Ableton is a quad bike ?? On for week ends ? There is quite interesting stuff to do with it and Max4Live ! Or am I the only one believing in Ableton? 🥺
Thanks for this Christian, reminded me to put Pro Tools on my wishlist. Quick question you may have addressed already, what's your favorite trick or post fix to reduce room noise? For example, if you need to sample something quick but don't have access to a perfectly quiet space, what can you do in post? Hope you're having a good weekend!
Izotope RX, thanks for kind words.
Maybe also worth taking a look at brusfri from klevgrand - I was quite surprised at how good it is
Wow, Brusfi blew my mind today, big thanks for that recommend, friend. I went down quite a Klevgrand rabbit hole today :)
no problem:)
I take Logic for MIDI programming and Pro Tools for the mixing/editing/production. I feel more comfortable with that. How about you guys?
Yes, I think I kind of state that here. It's good to get away from Sequencing and move on to recording and mixing, very different parts of the brain I think.
I feel like a crazy person for using Reaper for composing... I'm still starting out and that's what I can afford, so I'm kindof stuck, at least for now... But my actual question is: In a professional setting does it matter, what are you using for composing, as long as you deliver in pro tools in the end?
And as always, your videos are an amazing inspiration!
I would say (not that I know much about it) is that your DAW only matters when you are working as an assistant to another composer (a popular way of entering into the business).
If the person you are assisting is using Logic, you should use Logic as well because it streamlines workflow a lot. But if you are working solo, and you are the HoD (something Christian often talks about) for the score, it doesn't matter.
@@MiloPaulus Hey, thank you for your reply! :)
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First, as an American, I must say I loved the embedded presidential dig in this one ;-). Don't ask me how that man got elected, and I live here... Second, I would be interested to hear why more media composer don't just use Pro Tools for their composition work and eliminate all the other programs (Logic, Cubase, etc.)? I'm curious because I don't have a lot of experience with MIDI in PT but I'm constantly hearing about all the progress they've made, etc.
What I mean is... why not do your cue compositions in one PT session and bring them into the “master” or “HOD” session in PT and completely eliminate Logic. Why use Logic at all? Are there SPECIFIC things that Logic does that PT can’t?
Nice video explaining your work flow. One thing tho, the midi sequencing in pro tools is much more robust than most people realize.
I concur
petercalandra Agreed. What MIDI feature(s) are people missing in PT? I work completely in PT and cannot imagine any feature that could justify the extra work of going back and forth between 2 DAWs.
While i generally agree with your view, I do understand why people use both in tandem. BTW, there were some features in Studio Vision Pro (my previous sequencer back in the 1990's) that i still miss. Nested Subsequences, Advanced Transposition tools like invert, Retrograde etc....
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Really cool. Thank you. When you say syncing ProTools to Logic you mean they are actually running together in real time on the same computer when hitting play or you mean they are both running on the same computer and you just jump from one to the other and while one is playing the other is just waiting in the background peacefully for you to come back?
Pro-Tools is sync'd to Logic and runs in real-time... I'll whack an addenda in my next film.
Christian Henson Music that would be really cool thanks Christian! I did Performer to Digital Performer from versions 1-5 and then jumped to Logic versions 8-9 and before Logic X jumped back to Digital Performer 8 and now 9.5 ... but coincidentally just today I jumped back to Logic X to give it a try, so this video is reassuring and super fitting. VEP on Logic X is a mega mess though I’m finding out. Are you loading everything VIs directly in Logic and disabling/enabling channels? Apologies if there’s another video of yours where this might be talked about. Thank you so much for the content and the VIs. M.
Well, that wouldn't be the INTERNET if some loudmouth wasn't there to defend DigitalPerformer, and at the moment nobody has, so I guess I'll have to do it...
I've been a PT user for a very long time, alongside DP, for exactly the same reasons you were expressing ; one is an audio recorder at heart, the other is a MIDI sequencer, but I've also used Live and Reaper and I don't understand the criticism DP gets about its nomenclature and its workflow... My fluency in "DP speak" hasn't confused me or made me incapable of using other softs, so I don't really see what pisses people off in DP (Ok, chunks? But you were jealous of them when talking to Dario Marianelli, if I remember well? :) )
Cheers from fu... cold Canada.
Cubase has come on legions for Mac of recent. I gave up on Pro Tools due to endless crashing and weak midi implementation years ago. The company behind it has had its fair share of issues scaling to native. Logic was sort of OK but there were many deep things that were clumsy and made no sense... illogical. I have found Cubase to be the best advanced midi capable audio recorder for native on Mac. Tomatoes... tomaytoes. Pro Tools though... industry standard for delivery in your game. Great to see your breakdown, only disagree with 'If you are an Apple user, use Logic'... No thank you.
Hehehehe... bwahahahaha.... LMAO..... and, I'm right there with you on the 505
CHUNKS! finally got it! lol
Mmm! As always a great take on media composition. But as always it’s ‘different strokes for different folks’ I’ve been a media composer for over twenty years and as a once upon a time Logic/Pro Tools user my experience has taken me back to working in a single DAW - Logic. I understand the potential confusion when working with a lot of cues but organization and keeping a list of time codes where cues start and stop have proved to be less confusing than the hybrid solution. But hey! That’s just me. Thanks again for your time and dedication to not only helping fledgling composers but also oldies like me. Sterling stuff:)
But but but Reaper does everything Pro Tools does and I don't want to give Avid money :'(
Everything but deliver the dubbing theatre a file they can import with about 3 clicks I'm afraid :-(
Three cheers for Reaper!
Long time Cubase/Ableton/Tools user but Reaper wins hands down!! I'm experimenting with the newest version of AATranslator to convert Reaper projects direct to Tools for delivery..
if we could get the dubbing stages to switch to Reaper as well.......
Of course, Reaper isn't as friendly as others, but gets the work done.
So now we have to buy Logic and Pro Tools....this is getting expensive
When you are starting out you really shouldnt spend that much money on what gear to get and what software and sounds to buy. Those are things for later!
You should focus on the actual composing and practicing that instead of worrying about working in Logic instead of Cubase for example.
man u where harry potter movie was filmed in that train station lol
Subliminal messages at 5:05 lol
Garageband first then upgraded to Logic
Let me tell you how I feel about pro stools.
"The best DAW is whichever one is closest to you.", Or some other horseshit quote people who prefer microphones to children might use.
I am a Studio One 4 man myself :-)
Try Reaper and your question will be answered immediately. Imho.
Reaper does what Protools AND Logic do
An your explanation is going too fast