Best zero ppm filter? Im never going to dry any of my cars again!
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- Опубликовано: 26 фев 2021
- I don't enjoy drying my car after a wash, and its not good for the paint or the wax. So I have decided never to do it again!
But to do that I need the help of a new toy. Thats never put me off anything previously. So in this video I do some experiments with a race glaze zero ppm filter using using mixed resin bed technology, to make my dream come true.
Join me to see if I can now throw the chamois leather and ring towels away.
Here is a link to the filter I bought. It is not in any way sponsored, I paid for this myself and the link is NOT an affiliate link.
www.raceglaze.co.uk/car-care-...
Here is a link to the water quality tester I bought
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Very good video as always John. I had been considering a similar option for some time. It is good to see that it works as well as advertised. I need to start saving my pennies.
I was genuinely surprised how effective it was
Hi John. A bit off topic. But I wanted to give you, and especially MATT ARNOLD. a massive shout out and thank you. After a YEAR of throttle bodys, coils, and a million different codes. I went down the route of getting the condensers in the ECU looked at on Grandad´s Jag. Absolutly PERFECT!! I was lucky to have a computer guy here in Mallorca who used to work for VW, he got it sorted. And it runs like a dream. Exactly as MATT said, condensers were gone and had rust, Grandad is over the moon and still can´t belive it.
If it was´nt for your channel and subscibers like Matt. the car would be still left under a cover and not being enjoyed. THANK YOU SO MUCH. Peter
Oh Fantastic news Peter. And yes @matt arnold is a great supporter of us all and has provided some great info as well as contributing to the banter and comments amongst all us cat fans. Thanks Matt. And happy motoring Grandad👍
I love washing my cars, but I flipping hate drying them. This seems well worth the money. I bought a dryer a while back, but far from being an effort saver, it just sprayed the water all over the place when you get to nooks and crannies. This however, seems right up my alley. Really appreciate the video 👍🏻
Hi Dom. Never used one but I suspected I wouldn't get on with a dryer for that same 'Splashy' reason.
John same system my window cleaner uses, with a machine wash,rinse and go now leathering . great vid .
Thanks
I take mine to the bikini car wash. The girls there are soft and oily enough that this isn't a problem.
You always find option 'c' Gary😁
@@ToTheGarage All those physics classes in school really paid off.
@@ToTheGarage This guy found Option D. Not bikini weather. ruclips.net/video/RnpcnYTiWrM/видео.html
Youre a great explainer and i really appreciate this video as im looking to buy the same water filter! Subbed :)
Thanks for the sub! Bubba K and for the complement. Still loving it 40 washes later👍👍
That's a great idea John, my pacific blue car shows every water mark. Have just ordered the 7 litre unit from Raceglaze so no more drying and I can put off car washing until next weekend once it arrives. It's win win :)
Thats what I like to see. Finding the bright side in everything, even longer than ideal delivery times👍😁
John, you have the pressure washer, plumb that thing in. Then when you rinse, not only does it take less than a minute to rinse but you only use maybe a gallon or so and your resin will last about 4 times as long. I put a system in a couple years ago and did just that. Mine is a dual filter and each filter holds about a quart of resin (in other words, just a fraction of the size of yours) and I get the whole season out of them. Then I bought a $60 bag of resin (5# maybe?) and it has enough resin to refill my filters 5 or 6 times. I used PVC to plumb the bypass so I wash with tap water going into the pressure washer, then when I'm ready to rinse I throw a few valves, pressure rinse in about 20 seconds and walk away. I wash my XKR in less than 10 minutes - even with the top down! :D For washing I have a foam cannon (they're cheap, work great!) and a washing "broom" on a short pole, never even have to bend over, scrub the car down and ready to rinse in about 2-3 minutes. No doubt though, these DI systems work great. I wash my dark colored truck, it dries in minutes in the sun and not a spot! Or even if it's cool and overcast and it takes all day to dry, still no spots!
Cheers Andork. I like the sound of the pressure washer rinse lever🤔. I may have to get plumbing👍👍
Lovely finish John! I have my work cut out with my midnight black XK8.
Black is both the best and worst colour. Nothing else looks as shiny and glossy. Nothing else shows the dirt and the scratches as easily.
amazing video !!! need zero ppm water for my fishtanks, thought only that wasty RO system can help never heard abour these DI filters, thanks for the tip !!!
Glad you liked it! Im well out of my depth with fishtanks (excuse the pun) but it has to be worth a little investigation👍
Amazing ! 👍👍
Thanks
Good to use in your Coolant system flush - service as well.
Great tip!
Great vid
Thanks Gary
John i bought a hover craft replacement fan blower from Aldi today so I'm drying mine with that while wearing the wet suit I also brought !funny they had no cucumbers or bog roll..only joking love all your videos and my jags better for watching you.
I could take mine over to the wind tunnel at Moffett Field.
Quick blip on an aircrafts engine should do the trick Gary👍
@@ToTheGarage Sometimes we get a free plane wash under the occasional dark cloud.
I've had a different system for years, going back to when I was doing mobile valeting for a living.
Rather than a big chamber of deionising resin, my system uses 3 filters, then a reverse osmosis membrane followed by a small DI chamber.
Yes it wastes more water than it uses and filters slowly, so that water needs storage.
I used an old 1000L IBC container.
It is however far cheaper in total running costs, assuming no water meter.
I use a ppm meter so know the final output is ZERO and around 14 after the first 4 stages, before entering the resin.
I seem to recall straight tap water here last time I checked, was around 380ppm, which if reliant on resin alone, would use a lot of it.
Wow. You are well ahead of me in this area Matthew. Practical a water scientist.👍
guess it comes down to a cost V convenience balance.
Your system sounds like the right way to go if you are going to use it in enough volume.
This system is more like a combi boiler. Convenient water on demand v more economical bulk supply but you have to plan ahead.
Thanks so much for taking the time to share.
PS dod you/do you use zero ppm water just for rinse or for wash too?
@@ToTheGarage I think for the home user, what you have is the best option.
I have health issues that were seriously impairing my ability to work and was looking for ways to make my job easier and got thinking about window cleaners that use pure water.
I was using a lot of water in my work every day, so an RO/DI setup made more sense for that.
You'll find if you use pure water at all stages, not just the rinse, that your products work better.
Dark cars in direct sunlight went from nightmare to joy.
I used a cheaper one of these for a couple of summerers. I typically rinsed it and let it air dry while i was tidying up and putting buckets and hoses away. I'd then have enough time for a nice quick detail at the end.
You defo dont have to spend as much a same to get great results. The big test will be to see if I get a consummate increase in life that outlays the extra cost.
I am keeping a record so we can all find out the truth👍
Hi John, I found your channel whilst researching filter systems to use when washing cars. I was intrigued by your explanation of the “aspect ratio” of the Raceglaze system. You stated that this is an important factor with these systems. I was wondering exactly what evidence you have to support your claim that the taller vessels will outperform the “dumpier” versions. Thanks for the detailed video.
Hi Paul. It's just about the number of 'contact points' or 'path length' dependent upon your preferred analogy. The water is forced by the dip tube within the bottle to go to the bottom of the cylinder and then rise through the resin. A tall container will ensure that the water has to make contact with more particles of resin on its longer journey. A wide container that is shorter, may contain the same amount of resin, but the water does not HAVE TO circulate, it HAS TO rise though. So the path and therefore the amount of 'contacts' with the resin is lower in a dumpier container.
(If your flow rate is very low then its less important as the amount of time in the container is increased)
Obviously, water is not flowing in individual globules and not in perfectly straight lines, but the above at least gives you the logic. When these systems are used in industrial applications, where effectiveness and a decent flow rate are required you will often find several parralel resin cartridges that are 2 meters plus tall and 100mm dia. (Washing Silicon wafers, Superfinishing and Honing, Chrome plating plastics...)
Hope that helps Paul👍
Impressive demonstration John, so the water which has got into the nooks and crannies as with ordinary washing? Presumably after it rains on it, it is back to square one or is it? Had you ever considered a power dryer or tried one? As this blows ordinary water from the bodywork and in the nooks and crannies , just a thought.
Fortunately other than the odd bought of sandy rain, the rain water is pretty much clean. Not tried a blower, it looked in videos like it might just move it around and keep spraying it out of panel gaps, so never really warmed to the idea.
I'm wondering how a coffee or tea would taste using this water 😉 - but seriously that's amazing! Zero it says and zero it does!!!! I had never even heard of these until now. Edit number 3 lol - the result is superb! It looks towel or chamois dried! Love that blue - I used to own a 75 XJS same colour but man was that V12 thirsty! Cheers from the last day of Summer in NZ...
Not recommended as water may contain traces of carcinogenic chemicals, from the DI resin.
Also pure water (without mineral content) isn't good for us, as it acts like a sponge to minerals that are already in us.
@@matthewjenkins1161 thanks Matthew 👍
'Indigo Blue' it really does look amazing when clean and the sun hits it Trevor.
XJ12 is a dream of a drive. But I wouldn't afford to drive one very far😁. 12mpg?
Hi John. Can you tell me how hard it is to take out the traction control switch on my 02 xkr. It seems not to spring back when pushed in. Need to get flat fuse to pull out. Many thanks Steve
Hi Steve. Not specifically done that task but would imagine its relatively easy. I may look into it when I get a chance, or one of our fellow subscribers may have the answer for you and can add to this comment. Anybody?
Thanks for taking the time and effort to make and share the video, I have the same 14 litre vessel, which I find to be very good.
I've long been looking for a suitable bypass, I would have plumbed something into my garage, like many have, but I use the vessel in different locations so it's more of a mobile unit for me. I've recently stumbled across Clack heads which can accept a Clack bypass add on head, which will be ideal for my needs, but one thing confuses me with those.
They don't have an "inlet" and "outlet" as such, but instead have a "downflow" inlet and "upflow" inlet. Obviously designed to be used either way, but for some reason I always thought the water went down through the resin, and up through the pick up tube, as the tube is usually referred to as the riser?
I honestly can't remember if there is a filter on the bottom of the tube, but if there is then that would make sense. I noticed you are saying the water flows down through the tube and up through the resin, is that correct? Just so I can work out which way to connect the Clack head when I get round to buying it, as I won't be replacing the resin just yet.
Sorry for the extremely long winded question!
Hi Ally. Im not at home at the moment so not in a position to check but an internet search shows generic similar systems flowing the way you suggest. (down through resin and up through center pipe. So I am now doubting myself. I will go and physically check when i am able.
@@ToTheGarage thanks, I’ll check mines too,by removing the head and sussing out the water flow that way. I did ask Race Glaze the question, but they haven’t replied. I ordered the Clack 1191 in-out head and V3006 bypass from a seller I stumbled across, so that should be ideal for using with the pressure washer, meaning I only need one supply hose for one thing!
If anyone is interested in those I can provide a link ( I am in no way affiliated with the supplier)
I’ve managed to have a look at mines and it seems the water does travel down through the resin bed, then up through the riser tube to the outlet.
I do have a strong electric Blower I may give a try whilst in the shade.
Let us know how you get on
Great idea and timesaver, watermarks are for sure a wind up. I would not be able to not chamois the mirrors and glass though ;-) , just habit needing polished glass. I imagine your wife will be very pleased with the house windows from now on when you clean them! haha
SHE HAS ALREADY SPOTTED THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO EXPERIMENT ON THE HOUSE WINDOWS.
🤣
Hmmm. Can't justify (read afford) one of these as nice as they are. I was considering driving to yours to wash the cat once per month, but it would need to be dry weather on the way back home. Let's see, 3+ hours to drive to Lincolnshire; an hour to wash it and 3+ hours home. 7+ hours = nope this is the UK we never get 7 hours without rain! Thanks for the offer John, but no thanks.
Well if you came over to mine to do that one week and then stopped doing that the next week, Then you could use the money you would save on fuel to buy a filter after about 3 weeks😁👍
Very interesting John. Have you had a brew with it yet?
Not yet mate. Unfortunately Jo has sussed out that I could easily wash all the windows regularly now😔
@@ToTheGarage Yep, I saw that coming...! At least you don’t need long ladders. 🥴
Is this what is used for house window cleaning, John on another matter my XKR passed its MoT yesterday, when I switched the engine on, I only get condensation from one exhaust, do you have any thoughts?
Some do use a similar system, some use a two filter system and fill an IBC over night with it. Not as clean / slower / but much cheaper if you use huge amounts of water
Condensation from one exhaust is intriguing🤔. I would have to ponder that one
Good 👍🏼
Thanks ✌
I use the absorber to dry
With several cars to keep shiny I can relate, by the way my water's even worse than yours according to the tester thingy. See I'm already spending more money 😁 you should get your affiliate links sorted....
Interesting!
How long do you think the filter will last (# of car rinses) before the resin needs to be replaced?
Alegidly circa 400! but I think that assumes you fill a watering can and very carefully apply it. I will use it generaously and often so will keep everyone updated👍
@@ToTheGaragehow’s it lasting? I’m interested in buying one for cleaning my water for window tinting
@@anguswaddell6816 Hi
I cant quote you litres or gallons of treated water. However i have done circa 50 rinses with it and the PPM value is still firmly on zero. I probably use far more water than is necessary as i enjoy doing it
If you use snow seal after can u use this to just rinse or have dry car with towel. As that snow seal will have a clear hydro wax
I will have to look into that🤔. Ive not used snow seal yet
@To The Garage yeah with snow seal you just apply with the foam lance no need to use any cloth to buff but says dry with cloth but if you use the raceglaze will it means no hand drying on seal
I’ve had one of these for some years and it’s saved me days and days of drying and scratching the paint. Chammy leathers are like sandpaper to paint. Get a pet dryer and do the job properly.
👍
Hi mate. Do these things last a good while then? I’m looking at getting one for my water when window tinting
How many rinses can you get for the £90 worth of resin ?
So far ive done 40 and recently checked the PPM's its still Zero. So I will keep everyone updated. GREAT QUESTION. THANKS👍
@@ToTheGarage @@ToTheGaragefor it to rain, I do have a garage but it’s not big enough to wash my car or even dry it so this maybe the only option to keep my black paint like new but already realised it’s going to be impossible to keep it swirl or waterspot free, will try out this method and hope that helps
Hi John, how are you finding this 2 years on.?
Ive just reached the point where i have to replace the resin. Still doing a decent job but the PPM's are rising fast now. Would not hesitate to purchase again
Thanks just ordered the 14L
@@ToTheGarage how many washes would you estimate it took to reach the replacement point? Although the idea of time saved by not drying in the first place does seem to be worth the cost of admission. Very interesting video!
Hi John.. here in my place it is forbidden to wash the car on your own property. I have to go to the gas station. There you can wash it by hand. So it's not an option for me. Thanks f.vd
Oh wow! Is that a Germany rule Udo or a local issue for you and your neighbours?
@@ToTheGarage its only for me and neighbours, because the Coast is so near. Landscape protection! best regards. (my Discs and Pads not !!! arrived)
@@UdoIBress lol rip
You think your waters bad, mine registers 350. Car looks like it's been whitewashed after a hose down...
Crikey. I imagine you have to work quite hard with the leather to get a nice clean result.
@@ToTheGarage I think the water around here is artesian and so very 'minerally'. I noticed some people saying it's pointless as the first time your car gets rained on you would get water marks again which made me think to check the rainwater reading and it is only 73, so 5 times better than tap water!
Next to the electric for the lift???????😳
Good Spot👍
Yes the plan is to move the control unit for the lift about 2 feet to the left. and then tuck the filter in better underneath that little shelf.
Was it worth the money...imagine a one metre square (1.0m x 1.0m), divided in one millimetre squares (1mm x 1mm), which means in that 1 metre square you now have one million individual 1mm squares... and how much have you paid to remove (in your test) 244 No. 1mm squares... So do tell us, do you wash and dry off your cars every time they get rain on them...which I believe would have a far higher number of Parts Per Million of contaminates likely to damage your cars paintwork...???
Absolutely its worth it. If I didn't thoroughly dry it when rinsing with standard water, then the whole car would all look like the window and rear corner of the car that I showed you. Now I don't have to dry it. It drys faster and looks cleaner when it has dried
Every bead of water contains 244 parts per million of non H2O. And thats enough to make every bread stain your car.
Its not a case of 244 out of every million beads of water will be a dirty one.
Yes rain water can in some areas contain contaminates. But that I cant fix.
@@ToTheGarage...thank you for your response John...are there not treatments now...some of then pretty expensive (more than you paid for your kit), but that are supposed to protect the paintwork for years...??
Tedious in the extreme.
Sorry you didn't enjoy it von Coconut😔
@@ToTheGarage The high expenditure on equipment, installation and servicing maintenance balanced against a little personal time and the dubious assertion that judicious hand-drying damages already protected finishes suggests that few might enjoy such anal retentiveness.
@@voncoconut5293 I enjoyed it. I don’t understand why you watched it Coconut.
Hi John please don’t be offended, this is meant as some friendly feedback. I’ve been watching your videos and following you for a year or more now John but lately it seems that you’ve really been stringing these videos out and taking 45min for something that could have been covered in 10min. I do appreciate your full explanations and step by step guidance for more complicated tasks, but it was 10min into the video before you even got to the product you were covering in this video. I end up fast forwarding a lot of your video to try and get to the point. Can you do a condensed edit perhaps and then just put a link to the full 45min video for those with a greater interest and more time?
Dont worry Woody, im really hard to offend😁
Defo not stringing them out for any suspicious reasons, and its not an active effort to make longer videos
I realise my style is slow and steady and I do like the details along the way.
Its not for everyone , and I try to make the 'Secrets of the XK8' videos shorter and more direct for balance.
Afraid I cant spare the time to do two edits , so you are stuck with the fast forward button for now. Genuinely thanks for the feedback though👍👍