My 12 year old Etrac has never let me down and it has features that this brand new Vortex doesn't. I had high hopes for Garrett with this unit and had considered getting one at first, but this thing is a DUD. Garrett has all of White's intellectual property and still managed to blow it on this one. I was anticipating a follow up to the V3i, but we got this instead...lol.
First time to your channel, and you were saying people don't watch till the end. I didn't. I made it 2 minutes in. Then I scrubbed the video to see if you do anything with the detector or show us what you like or didn't like but it appears to just be you going on a walk. I didn't once see anything about the detector, not a comparison with anything you do like. No offense, but I wasn't here to go on a walk. Enjoy your day. I'm completely new to detecting so I learn with my eyes along with an explanation.
@@ProspectorsCache It's all good brother, you were speaking to the regulars on your channel, it's just I wasn't going to get anything out of it. I watch all kinds of reviews, they usually involve the item in question.
Hello, PC. I don’t blame you for not getting the Vortex. It seems like they rushed to get it out, even though they are way behind the competition. It’s a shame for an American made product. I think Charles Garrett would have made sure his products would’ve kept up with the competition. My first detector that I still own is a Garrett Freedom Ace Plus, along with other single frequency detectors from the past. I own the Equinox 600 that I’ve had for 5 years now, and I still use it for saltwater dry/wet and water hunting. I also have the Equinox 700 and The Nokta Makro Legend Pro pack. This is all I really need. I’ve heard and seen good things about the Nokta Triple Score, too. Great back up machine. Great video. Liked and subbed to you. I live in Texas, myself. Take care of yourself. Happy Digz. _/👍🏻
@@luisvillarreal5262 hey, hows it going. This Vortex thing is really causing quite the stir. lol I always like my first detector which was an ACE400, still have it.
in my opinion - Shafts from pre carbon fiber held up really well, In my 25 year of detecting, I have NEVER EVER had a shaft break on me or a camlock strip on me. I have only seen minelab ears on coils break due to heavy use. Enter the carbon fiber shaft era, over rated. I have 2 nokta legend machines and a simplex both models have Carbon Fiber shafts and I tell you what it doesnt perform any better than its non carbon fiber nemesis. I still find the rings and coins using both models. non carbon fiber shafts can last you 15-20 years if you take care of them. for those heavy users opt for the carbon fiber just in case, but will break on you at some point if you are hard on your gear. as for bottle cap rejection, you can have all top of the line machines, but there is no machine out there that will handle both bottle cap rejection and give you a solid silver 1 dollar silver coin tone, it will mask the good tone GUARANTEED all the time. The only caveat to hearing a solid clean tone and rejecting a bottle cap next to it is only when you have both targets in line or level with each other, but real world scenarios are bottle caps are layered upon layers of soil and then large silver cents down a little deeper, make sense? you can see what i mean here watching Jeremys excellent Video here ruclips.net/video/yqV0TBgRv_U/видео.htmlsi=f9eQwXdmM_lsgCBF Bottle cap rejection is overrated, just pick up all the bad stuff and eventually you will get to the good targets that were masked by bottlecap rejection. So next time you go out, go ahead and turn off the BC Rejection and just hunt the place to death, it will produce. Give Garrett some time to make those updates happen, heck. the legend was full of glitches and shortfalls when 1.05 came out, it was bad. trust me! especially the update utility that was just pure hell for many end users that i had to make a tutorial on the update utility. This is the first ever though for a machine to be upgradeable from one version to another version, that is a game changer and innovative. Personally i have always been a loyal Whites Electronics Machine user until they closed down, i heard through the grapevine that this Vortex VX9 was a Whites Electronics design (took the idea from Whites VX3 or V3i model, perhaps even the 3 level spectrograph) but Garrett made some tweaks here and there and put it to market. probably one of the first machines to use wireless headphones too, that i can remember. just give it some time at least a year or so after initial public distribution and see what happens. I will say that Nokta is very amazingly quick at reaching to their field users and gathering intel and within days or weeks Dilek makes an announcement of the update feature coming out. so just be patient!
That Vortex sure is hitting the coins for me ! Deep ones too im talking deep silver dimes 7-10 inch range !!! I scanned over it with my triple score and not peep of a tone . I tried different settings on the triple score and just couldnt match the depth...The Vortex is putting more power into the ground ! Say what you want but the Vortex out performed the Nokta on that day even with it needing updates...
Ha ha ha ha 🤣.... To funny .... Last guy told me it is deeper than his Manticore. Funny thing is the Triple Score I have picks up 14" silver dimes with no problem.
I guess I am one of those you're talking about, yes, I just want to see the gold that you found, and I don't have a lot of time to watch it all, just want to see the gold. If I had the time and expertise, I have more videos just don't have the time to install and it's going to be a short. My Deus2 is the best that money can buy! From the Heart guy K2 vitamin and Taurine, a must from a widow maker survivor and now can run around the block. Try it!
Dude you are quoting they. Who is they? I haven’t had any of the issues you have said “ they” have had. Why don’t you let users make their own decisions.
Calabash Digger, iffy signals, northwest Wisconsin, Garrett's on Steve Moore, tnsharpshooter, History Digger, lots of metal detecting forum users and private talks with 8 dealer friends.
I'm super happy Garrett was wise and didn't put a conductive carbon shaft on the Vortex, I've had to go and replace my carbon shafts as manufacturers starting following the ill-informed aftermarket trend of carbon shafts. I don't want a shaft that reacts as a target.
I haven't had any issues with any carbon fiber shafts. BTW they aren't conductive. I just tested mine with a metal detector in all metal and no response at all. Also it reads infinite mohns with my multimeter.
@@ProspectorsCache Carbon fiber is slightly conductive. It's been discussed and tested on those mean metal detecting forums Calabash goofball cried about. lol
@p1315 must not be conductive enough for a Deus 2 to see it at all. I swing a D2 over it in prospecting mode and the detector does not indicate anything. Also when I test it with ohmmeter it doesn't show any conductivity. So whoever told you that is incorrect.
@p1315 also the wire and ground are conductive. Detectors easily balanced those, so a carbon fiber shaft would also be balanced out and not affect performance.
@@ProspectorsCache And yet...it does. I posted a YT link to another video but the owner of the video has to approve it first to show up on here...yada yada yada. Search CarbonLowerRods in the search box.
You know what's one of the best salt water beach metal detectors...the one which set the modern day standard for salt water beach metal detector sensitivity to small gold (inspiring XP and Nokta to come up with their own multi frequency detectors)? Yup, it's the Minelab Equinox. You know what it doesn't have? Yup, bottle cap reject. It does have iron filters or bias as Minelab calls it...but you want to set that to 0, if you're looking for small gold on salt water beach. Sure, you'll end up digging some deep bottle caps once in a while...but that's metal detecting. Folks need to stop believing/regurgitating everything that goof from Calabash NC says. I'd write this on his channel but he bans anyone who disagrees with him, whining that they are "haters".
Maybe he is wrong about BC reject, idk, I never use BC on my Legend, but he did make a bunch of videos showing issues like the VDI scale on large silver, and Garrett suddenly is releasing an update for it, so love him or hate him, he did good getting Garretts attention
I agree with most of what you said. Bottle cap reject is nice though. If that was the only problem in the Vortex that would make it ok, but right now there are many more issues for a detector in that price range.
I watch many many Detecting channels and one thing I've noticed about CB. When he points out flaws on a detector usually the manufacturer comes out with an update to address some of those issues he shows. Idk you tell me.
Now, now Calbash does a great job, and he does have more expertise than most engineers out there when it comes to testing. I been metal detecting for over fifty years, yes, he not always right, but most of the time he right on the money! I bought Deus2 because of him and I am a cherry picker only looking for a gold rings. You should see my pile of gold rings with that Deus2. Sold Me!
Dude you are quoting they. Who is they? I haven’t had any of the issues you have said “ they” have had. Why don’t you let users make their own decisions.
Calabash Digger, iffy signals, northwest Wisconsin, Garrett's on Steve Moore, tnsharpshooter, History Digger, lots of metal detecting forum users and private talks with 8 dealer friends.
@ so you have used the VX9 extensively? I’ve already used mine a lot and the only issue I’ve ran across is VDI number not appearing on some high tones. I understand Garrett is doing an update to rectify that. I’m satisfied and I love supporting Made in USA.
All buyers ultimately make their own decision. He did not force anyone to buy one or not to buy one. You clicked on his video because you were interested in his opinion just like everyone else that watched this video.
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My 12 year old Etrac has never let me down and it has features that this brand new Vortex doesn't. I had high hopes for Garrett with this unit and had considered getting one at first, but this thing is a DUD. Garrett has all of White's intellectual property and still managed to blow it on this one. I was anticipating a follow up to the V3i, but we got this instead...lol.
@@justinandsheba sad for sure
Truth spoken. I had such high expectations for the Vortex. I'm going with the Triple Score as well.
I think you made the right choice.
I haven't heard anything good about it. I just bought a triple score, for my backup machine.
They are slightly better than an AT Max, but that is 20 year old technology.
Triple Score does so much more and better and at a better price.
I agree
great review, thanks
Thank you so much
I'm out of breath just watching you lol..thanks for the heads up video
@@Planewatcher3463 you are welcome
Great video, very helpful 😊
Glad you found it helpful
First time to your channel, and you were saying people don't watch till the end. I didn't. I made it 2 minutes in. Then I scrubbed the video to see if you do anything with the detector or show us what you like or didn't like but it appears to just be you going on a walk. I didn't once see anything about the detector, not a comparison with anything you do like. No offense, but I wasn't here to go on a walk. Enjoy your day. I'm completely new to detecting so I learn with my eyes along with an explanation.
Thanks for the feedback, I'll make sure to improve the content in the future.
@@ProspectorsCache It's all good brother, you were speaking to the regulars on your channel, it's just I wasn't going to get anything out of it. I watch all kinds of reviews, they usually involve the item in question.
The reason I didn't have the item to show is I sent the piece of junk back.
@@ProspectorsCache cool cool brother, I totally understand, it's all a lot clearer knowing that.
You should do a stay tuned for something special at the end of your video to keep engagement clear to the end.
Good idea
Thx for the useful info and .good health
@@binbanben thanks
I changed my mind and sent My vortex back for a refund
@@steelydan42 good idea
Hello, PC. I don’t blame you for not getting the Vortex. It seems like they rushed to get it out, even though they are way behind the competition. It’s a shame for an American made product. I think Charles Garrett would have made sure his products would’ve kept up with the competition. My first detector that I still own is a Garrett Freedom Ace Plus, along with other single frequency detectors from the past. I own the Equinox 600 that I’ve had for 5 years now, and I still use it for saltwater dry/wet and water hunting. I also have the Equinox 700 and The Nokta Makro Legend Pro pack. This is all I really need. I’ve heard and seen good things about the Nokta Triple Score, too. Great back up machine. Great video. Liked and subbed to you. I live in Texas, myself. Take care of yourself. Happy Digz. _/👍🏻
Thank you so much. I love this comment.
you mean American assembled. The parts are all made in China. lol
@@depthspader8820 Yes. lol
@@depthspader8820 Hey Depthspader, LOL Yeah, American company, in general.
@@luisvillarreal5262 hey, hows it going. This Vortex thing is really causing quite the stir. lol I always like my first detector which was an ACE400, still have it.
in my opinion - Shafts from pre carbon fiber held up really well, In my 25 year of detecting, I have NEVER EVER had a shaft break on me or a camlock strip on me. I have only seen minelab ears on coils break due to heavy use. Enter the carbon fiber shaft era, over rated. I have 2 nokta legend machines and a simplex both models have Carbon Fiber shafts and I tell you what it doesnt perform any better than its non carbon fiber nemesis. I still find the rings and coins using both models. non carbon fiber shafts can last you 15-20 years if you take care of them. for those heavy users opt for the carbon fiber just in case, but will break on you at some point if you are hard on your gear. as for bottle cap rejection, you can have all top of the line machines, but there is no machine out there that will handle both bottle cap rejection and give you a solid silver 1 dollar silver coin tone, it will mask the good tone GUARANTEED all the time. The only caveat to hearing a solid clean tone and rejecting a bottle cap next to it is only when you have both targets in line or level with each other, but real world scenarios are bottle caps are layered upon layers of soil and then large silver cents down a little deeper, make sense? you can see what i mean here watching Jeremys excellent Video here ruclips.net/video/yqV0TBgRv_U/видео.htmlsi=f9eQwXdmM_lsgCBF
Bottle cap rejection is overrated, just pick up all the bad stuff and eventually you will get to the good targets that were masked by bottlecap rejection. So next time you go out, go ahead and turn off the BC Rejection and just hunt the place to death, it will produce. Give Garrett some time to make those updates happen, heck. the legend was full of glitches and shortfalls when 1.05 came out, it was bad. trust me! especially the update utility that was just pure hell for many end users that i had to make a tutorial on the update utility. This is the first ever though for a machine to be upgradeable from one version to another version, that is a game changer and innovative. Personally i have always been a loyal Whites Electronics Machine user until they closed down, i heard through the grapevine that this Vortex VX9 was a Whites Electronics design (took the idea from Whites VX3 or V3i model, perhaps even the 3 level spectrograph) but Garrett made some tweaks here and there and put it to market. probably one of the first machines to use wireless headphones too, that i can remember. just give it some time at least a year or so after initial public distribution and see what happens. I will say that Nokta is very amazingly quick at reaching to their field users and gathering intel and within days or weeks Dilek makes an announcement of the update feature coming out. so just be patient!
Good commentary... Only reason I like carbon fiber is stiffness. When you are diving or in heavy surf, the plastic shaft flexing drives me nuts.
@ good point. not a diver but i do hit the surf lines, but holds up well for me.thanks again!
That Vortex sure is hitting the coins for me ! Deep ones too im talking deep silver dimes 7-10 inch range !!! I scanned over it with my triple score and not peep of a tone . I tried different settings on the triple score and just couldnt match the depth...The Vortex is putting more power into the ground ! Say what you want but the Vortex out performed the Nokta on that day even with it needing updates...
Ha ha ha ha 🤣.... To funny .... Last guy told me it is deeper than his Manticore. Funny thing is the Triple Score I have picks up 14" silver dimes with no problem.
😂😂😂Vortex😂😂😂
Respect to you from the Republic of Ireland 🇮🇪
Thanks for watching
Thanks for walk and imformation and opinions. Hope your health improves. Thanks for posting.
Thanks for watching and I appreciate the well wishes!
The Vortex I believe would lose to the Fischer F22
Hard pass for me
I agree
I guess I am one of those you're talking about, yes, I just want to see the gold that you found, and I don't have a lot of time to watch it all, just want to see the gold. If I had the time and expertise, I have more videos just don't have the time to install and it's going to be a short. My Deus2 is the best that money can buy! From the Heart guy K2 vitamin and Taurine, a must from a widow maker survivor and now can run around the block. Try it!
Thanks for the comment!
They need to fix the notching scale as to where there is an actual scale so if you want to notch something out it makes it a pain in the ass...
I agree the scale needs markers for the numbers.
@@ProspectorsCacheGlad that you are feeling better
Thank you Bill. Hope you are doing well also
Nice video thanks 👍👍
@@steelydan42 thanks for watching
love the triple score
It is a nice detector
boom let's go let's go treasure and adventure ✌👵
Thanks
I use xp and minelab
I use XP and getting a Nokta
I'm going with minelab xterra elite.
Good choice
Great choice
Yes, this is a failure.
Agree
Garret is trash
They will find stuff, but compared to other brands they are lacking in features and too expensive for what you get IMO
The answer to a health life is keto or carnivore.
Good video Tom🎉
Glad you liked it!
Very good video. New subscriber here
Thanks for subscribing
Thanks for sharing
My pleasure
Triple score is good. But if you have a D2 in the stable you won’t use it much.
I agree, the D2 is a great machine. I need a backup.
Garrett is trash
Hopefully they will fix it
Agree
get on the carnivore diet
Can't due to colon problems.
Wrong!, the VEGAN diet will supercharge you and your numbers will be fantastic..but anyways
Good video. I subscribed.
Thank you!
@tnsharpshooter I have been a subscriber to your channel for a long time. Love your daily video's.
@tnsharpshooter I have been a subscriber to your channel for a long time. Love your daily video's.
Dude you are quoting they. Who is they? I haven’t had any of the issues you have said “ they” have had. Why don’t you let users make their own decisions.
Calabash Digger, iffy signals, northwest Wisconsin, Garrett's on Steve Moore, tnsharpshooter, History Digger, lots of metal detecting forum users and private talks with 8 dealer friends.
Bottle cap reject the ultimate beginner move
It has its place.
I'm super happy Garrett was wise and didn't put a conductive carbon shaft on the Vortex, I've had to go and replace my carbon shafts as manufacturers starting following the ill-informed aftermarket trend of carbon shafts. I don't want a shaft that reacts as a target.
I haven't had any issues with any carbon fiber shafts. BTW they aren't conductive. I just tested mine with a metal detector in all metal and no response at all. Also it reads infinite mohns with my multimeter.
@@ProspectorsCache Carbon fiber is slightly conductive. It's been discussed and tested on those mean metal detecting forums Calabash goofball cried about. lol
@p1315 must not be conductive enough for a Deus 2 to see it at all. I swing a D2 over it in prospecting mode and the detector does not indicate anything. Also when I test it with ohmmeter it doesn't show any conductivity. So whoever told you that is incorrect.
@p1315 also the wire and ground are conductive. Detectors easily balanced those, so a carbon fiber shaft would also be balanced out and not affect performance.
@@ProspectorsCache And yet...it does. I posted a YT link to another video but the owner of the video has to approve it first to show up on here...yada yada yada. Search CarbonLowerRods in the search box.
You know what's one of the best salt water beach metal detectors...the one which set the modern day standard for salt water beach metal detector sensitivity to small gold (inspiring XP and Nokta to come up with their own multi frequency detectors)? Yup, it's the Minelab Equinox. You know what it doesn't have? Yup, bottle cap reject. It does have iron filters or bias as Minelab calls it...but you want to set that to 0, if you're looking for small gold on salt water beach. Sure, you'll end up digging some deep bottle caps once in a while...but that's metal detecting. Folks need to stop believing/regurgitating everything that goof from Calabash NC says. I'd write this on his channel but he bans anyone who disagrees with him, whining that they are "haters".
Maybe he is wrong about BC reject, idk, I never use BC on my Legend, but he did make a bunch of videos showing issues like the VDI scale on large silver, and Garrett suddenly is releasing an update for it, so love him or hate him, he did good getting Garretts attention
I agree with most of what you said. Bottle cap reject is nice though. If that was the only problem in the Vortex that would make it ok, but right now there are many more issues for a detector in that price range.
I watch many many Detecting channels and one thing I've noticed about CB. When he points out flaws on a detector usually the manufacturer comes out with an update to address some of those issues he shows. Idk you tell me.
@@jrummy73agreed 💯
Now, now Calbash does a great job, and he does have more expertise than most engineers out there when it comes to testing. I been metal detecting for over fifty years, yes, he not always right, but most of the time he right on the money! I bought Deus2 because of him and I am a cherry picker only looking for a gold rings. You should see my pile of gold rings with that Deus2. Sold Me!
Dude you are quoting they. Who is they? I haven’t had any of the issues you have said “ they” have had. Why don’t you let users make their own decisions.
Calabash Digger, iffy signals, northwest Wisconsin, Garrett's on Steve Moore, tnsharpshooter, History Digger, lots of metal detecting forum users and private talks with 8 dealer friends.
@ so you have used the VX9 extensively? I’ve already used mine a lot and the only issue I’ve ran across is VDI number not appearing on some high tones. I understand Garrett is doing an update to rectify that. I’m satisfied and I love supporting Made in USA.
Like I said if you like it great and keep on finding stuff.
All buyers ultimately make their own decision. He did not force anyone to buy one or not to buy one. You clicked on his video because you were interested in his opinion just like everyone else that watched this video.
The Vortex is TRASH