Making and fitting two part architrave
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- Опубликовано: 26 ноя 2020
- Making up some two part architrave to match existing and then fitting it.
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Amazing set up, I had not seen a router like this before. Very professional and organized.
My father was a cabinet and furniture maker. Appreciate what your doing and loving all the tips etc.
Really impressed with the job...but even more impressed with the safety measures employed in the shop....ie table saw guard in place, auto feed for the router table....smashing
Funny thing I stumbled across this video tonight - I did something similar last week, although using stock mouldings. The base bits were still in place but some idiot had decided to chisel off the decorative moulding bits, probably back in the 70s. I went to our local store run by a former Polish school teacher turned joiner and asked if he had anything in stock and he did, for a reasonable price, so I bought three 2.5 m lengths and fitted them to the existing architrave after sanding off several layers of paint.
I've never seen a masons mitre before, great video's I love watching them.
I can tell you, looking for things you put down a minute ago only gets worse as you get older! Smashing video, can't wait for the next instalment.
Haha, yes, me too! Recently purchased a proper workshop apron and found I'm a lot more efficient in my workshop (after getting used to it because initially I found I would still put things down rather than back in the pockets!). Blatant plug, I found the Katz Moses apron very good value and has lots of features in the multiple pockets which should benefit most workshop warriors! Cheers, David.
I do that ALL the time! 66 yo.
53yr old maintenance engineer...it drives me nuts, too! I found the arm- raising, wtf gesture hilarious, as I know it well 😂. I believe it happens most when you're multi-tasking, in the middle of a job with multiple operations. That's my excuse, anyway...
I have never seen trim put up that way. Amazing, thanks for sharing.
I just find it so therapeutic watching you work, everything so deliberate and thoughtful ❤️❤️❤️
Cracking video, and what a machine than spindle moulder is!!! I totally forgot about your fence build, that’s a work of art in itself.
Truly amazing work!
Nice work as usual, looks like a longish term refurb. Thanks for sharing.
Glad to see I'm not the only one dealing with goblins stealing my stuff in the shop :)
Great work, these videos are fascinating to watch. Dare I say it almost therapeutic. Thank you for taking the time to record, edit and share.
Good stuff, thanks. The little piece of mdf stuck to the outfeed was a good tip. The installed architraves look great. Thanks for the video. Cheers, David
Waow. You really trusted the angle stops on that Evo mitre saw! Mine has never given me a stress free cut in all the years I’ve owned it 😂
I love your work
Nice! Looking forward to the stairs.
Love the tip for the Mason Mitre, thanks!
As always brilliant work. 😀
Loved the video.
That shaper fence is so great.
Ooo! With every day looks nicer and nicer! Perfect!
Respect to You.
I'm waiting next etap of the nice Your work.
Good luck!
Haha, great job, now for all the other door frames and skirting boards. Good luck and thanks for sharing.
The handrail looks like it’s going to be an interesting/ tricky shape to produce - looking forward to that one and any others , the house has nice features that will look really well when you are finished - definitely work the effort. Humorous and entertaining 👍
Refreshing to see a shaper in a woodworking video
The masons mitre is a lovely corner joint instead of the usual 45 degree.
Mooi werk!
Great job mate
I would have expected all the joinery timber to have been primed on all surfaces prior to fixing. There will be differential movement between the soft wood and the mdf, let's hope the glue holds! Details like this should be all one material not a mix.
You seem to be the right man for the job
Nice job ! I have a collection of 30mm bore spindle tooling sitting doing nothing sold the machine a few years ago. Whitehill blocks new type and old type, cutters for both, groovers, sets for cupboard door manufacture. I'm down in Sheffield.
That fence (guard/guide rail for the shaper) is amazing, wished I've done that, would have saved me from having to make a new one for each profile of molding.
this is so inspiring thanks for good videos !
An elevator is the Professional solution to those... "stairs" :D Thank you, best wishes and enjoy the holiday!
It’s going to be gorgeous the way you are going.
Very nice. Me three for the stairs.
i needed a vallium to contain my excitement on this one lol lol,,being serious now...looks great ,cant wait to see what other projects you have in store for the house..looks like its going to be a lot of work ahead of you ,thanks bud..........stay safe ....all the best..........dougie
Lol, instead of Valium, may I recommend a good dose of wood pieces to work out your excitement on? It'd be so much more pleasant and better for your own health.
Very "period" for your older house. Well done. Seeing you use that nailgun near our thumb though give me the jitters.
woodworking plan unique .
Woowww... supper... nice job... congrats... thanks.... god bless you... ❤️❤️❤️😁👍🤝🙏
Nice work fella...and yep, I have a spook in my workshop too...I’ll put down a pencil, go to pick it up....and, it’s gone...I’ll find it a few minutes later somewhere else...happens around the house too...!! I don’t envy you the staircase job...I think I might be inclined to replace it...
Me to it’s called the wife 😂
Who are the 9 who don't like this? Want to hear talking? I like watching you work.
5:59 - Nice moulding machine / table router (not sure what it's called in English), convenient auto-feeder and of course excellent fence, but for Chrissake what a wobble ! I'm no scaredy-cat oround the machines (25 years & still 10 fingers - knock on wood) but I would be nervous hand feeding that sea-sick spinner.
Thanks for posting -- I like your work.
From a Norwegian woodworker
and 6:17 - I do exactly the same thing :-)
That hand on the out-feed tells me what's going on behind there.
I keep wanting gear like yours, then I remember I make guitars, it would be *slight* overkill! XD
I am a fan, but i like your videos and your Good worki i subscribe!
Lovely job that. I enjoy your little comments, both humorous and the helpful hints and tips. Excellent stuff mate, cheers :)
Love the ironic (sarcastic?) comments! One must have little 'tools' to cope with the preciseness of such work! And don't feel badly about losing things - signs of genius (or so I tell myself every day).
6:45 he disappeared like my dad for a while second. Lol
I did this exact same thing - problem is the two materials (softwood architrave and MDF panel) joins on the outside look really unsightly. Maybe I should have planed them, filler, sand, filler, sand, filler, sand, painted.... right faff though!
The overwhelming excitement, I feel it as well, I wish I could have been there. In my youth wild horses couldn't have stop me from pressing on. But at my age I would have had to stop to settle myself down. Thank you so much.
Your joinery and reproduction skills are to be applauded....the real test, however, will be the extreme challenge of that nightmare of a staircase and stairwell. Good luck and best wishes.
Very nice. Don’t suppose this was for one of those new build Barratt homes
Join the club, put something down,half hour to find it. Nice job.
I love your workmanship, a true inspiration for me as an amateur woodworker. I have an evolution mitre saw as well but want to know what blade(s) you use, I'm not getting on well with the all material blade it comes with and would prefer a set of blades that don't rip so much, do you have any recommendations?
Bravo respekt ✌😍🤝❤
When i was apprentice the wall behind the spindle was imbedded with cutters because they used a french
i usaully see a lot of this trim ending up in waste bins at construction and renovation sites where i work. i take them home because they must be over 100 years old and some are in good shape. same with panel doors the sometimes throw them out from houses built in 1860/1870 like its nothing. only the layers of paint are extremly difficult to get of. you think there is a good way to take of the paint? i tought about sandblasting. i would like to reuse them in my house
Another fascinating plus educational video. I have never even heard of a masons mitre let alone seen one being made. How captivating is this mansion renovation & how time consuming. What on earth do you do with all your spare time mate? Don from South Aust.
Beau travail, se pendant je m'interroge. Pourquoi ne pas coller le mdf sur le dormant de porte ?
We normally mason mitre the head into uprights to avoid endgrain
good point!
HI Russ, and thanks for another great video. I really like the sense of humor you convey through these videos. The UWMHWEUPPPE really cracked me up :D A quick question. Is there any particualr reson why you chose MDF for the inner part of the architrave and a softwood for the outer?
Thanks for sharing, and cheers from Norway.
Good job. Satisfying to actually create the mouldings as well. Do you find that the mdf blunt your cutters ?
Excellent stuff.
If I may ask, what make and model is that table saw?
is this your place? two story with attic conversion?
can you do a video of the house and what projects you are doing yourself in time so we know what's ahead for your channel and we can stay tuned then for the exciting bits to come.
stair window looks very cool, and the banister will you be keeping that going for the new handrail you mentioned you are making going to the attic (I think it is)?
great video enjoyed that, quality workmanship even tho you aren't chatty lol.
yes its my place, it is three storey where the top floor is in the attic kind of but is original to the house so isnt a conversion if that makes sense. the hand rail is separate, and starts on the other side of the wall on the less steep side of the kite winders so meanders around the wall at nicer angle! it is almost finished but will take a while to get around to editing all the video!
Would you recommend that evolution saw?
Why the mixture of materials? (I'm sure there's a reason, but it's not obvious to me)
Amazing job. Is this your personal home or a customer?
The art of finding animate objects...
Great video, what was the silver thing with the red and black handle you cut the masons mitres with? 😂😂
When I'm working, Ill be looking for tools I just had..Ill ask my workers if they've seen it ? and they say "it's in your hand"
A lot of work for one door casing, but worth it.
I'm guessing (given the amount of stock) that it's for more than one door!
May I ask you why you did a mason mitre on the sub arc instead of a regular mitre and maybe a biscuit for strength? Was it you didnt want both mitre joints on top of one another? You are very similar to myself in your work methods and I enjoy your videos. Well done and keep up the great work.
Master carpenter, Yorkshire, masons.
A little terminology glitch in my mind: The "casing" is the part you custom milled; the "jamb" is the part that surrounds the door, and to which you attach the casing. Or this just a US vs UK terminology difference(?)
In this video I milled the architrave which could be reffered to as the Jamb piece or head piece depending on which part of the casing any given piece is fitted to, The casing is the frame into which the door fits, and the Jamb is the upright part of the casing, the top of the casing being the head.
Probably the same as in the US but it is difficult to name everything and get every bit of terminology in place and still have concise narration.
I don't get the advantages of those fancy mitres, it looks like more work to me, and how does it save on materials, love your workmanship though.
I've got a very similar two piece architrave to reproduce for a repair job. Why did you use MDF for the base mould? Extra stability maybe or for a damp environment like a kitchen or bathroom? I don't have a workshop or a spindle moulder but I do have a Bosch 1/2" router and a Kreg portable router table, 👍😁🔨🇮🇪
Hi, The main reason is cost and simplicity, I can just cut the mdf to size without planing and it is cheap to buy, it happened that the profile I want required a 12mm thickness so it really made sense to use mdf, obviously you should look at your profile and the available materials and decide what is most cost effective, especially on a router table as youll want to reduce machining as much as possible as well.
I used moisture resistant just in case really, it is less likely to inflate like a balloon if the walls are damp ( and in a 160 year old Victorian house they will be!)
I used pine for the outer piece because it is more vulnerable, the mdf does chip quite easily and pine will stand up better to dings and other abuse.
Hope that helps.
@@NewYorkshireWorkshop Thanks for the reply, I only have two legs of architrave to repair for a client so buying a full sheet of M.R MDF mightn't be the most cost effective option. The house I'm working in is fairly dry, nearly too dry to be honest. I'm thinking about some high quality pine or Douglas fir. I have a planer/thicknesser so I can process rough sawn boards. I'll have to do it under an awning though, not ideal, 🙄 I'll be starting my new workshop build in mid-April so hopefully by June I'll be able to tackle more joinery projects, 👍😁🔨🇮🇪
Bad Ass! 👍
Nice job. I'm also a carpenter but just a little bit older :-) Take care: you're going to kill you spindle moulding knives: they realy don't like mdf unless they are made of HM (and not HSS) (sorry for my English, I'm from Belgium)
and the looking for tools... is there a remedy for this?
I also spend my life looking forward tools I’ve put down a second before. I think I need a version of each tool for each station and place of work (shop/job site/house)! 😂
not seeing the trees for the forest is the biggest problem in my shop, it is so full of stuff and messy. surprisingly the old adage of "if you cant find something, stop looking" works most of the time for me!
Lovely job, where the custom cutters expensive?
I ground them myself but ive read somewhere a while ago that you have them done from around £60, cant remember where though or if that includes blanks to be ground or just the service.
@@NewYorkshireWorkshop Thanks for the info.
So the mdf is not glued to the door frame but the softwood trim is glued to the mdf, very odd
Do you have a quick fix for miss placed tool syndrome, I desperately need one
Are you going to make a curved architrave to put over your arched window?
havent thought that far ahead yet! maybe...
Why are there 2 opposing cutters on the shaper?
One is a cutter and one is a limiter to stop the cutter cutting too deep.
if he ground the cutter himself and uses an old whithill style block -he prob ground the cutter in one or two pieces and used a similar counterweight cutter set back a bit in the block as a balancer - on small runs no need to grind two set of cutter and have the hassle of setting them up
you may have already stated this but, is this your place?
11:32 You and me both...
I am usually in awe of your joinery work, but I was taught to hang the door before putting the architrave on.
Does anyone know how they made these 200 yrs ago? 🤷🏼♀️🤔
They used moulding planes, basically shaped planes.
Where the F did I put that pencil. 30 pencils later....
Yeah, I finally bought a gross (144) of pencils because I got tired of looking for them.
that MDF dust is horrible. turns the floor into a skating rink
join the club. i daren,t clear up. if i do , i can,t find anything
Using a Mason's mitre. Illuminati confirmed.
Why do you call it architrave? We call it moldings. In fact the topmolding is called an Akroterion. An architrave is in fact the supporting beam of a construction. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architrave
Because he's English, and that's whats it's called in England.
@@milknosugarta I'm British too
Then i don't know what part of the country you're in that call it moldings. Its always been Architrave to me.
I just hid like right away now….just saying.
Fantastic reproduction. But why not glue and fix the two parts together first and make one mitre do🤷♂️