Great video guys I just wanted to say there are better ways to change the spring on the clutch. I didn't want to pick on a negative in my opinion but just a mention. Keep up the good work. Reply: Thanks Caleb, yes agree! There is a clutch press tool which presses the spring to release the nut. This is just a quick way to change the spring and shows that anyone at home can do it. Thanks for the comment all the best👍
Hi great informative video are you able to provide kit details for a Vespa Primavera 50cc 2021 model the ones I found online didn't include that year? Thanks
@@scooterstreetau hi which roller weights do you reccomend to help acceleration I've just purchased the kit are the 6.5gm roller weights you reccomend included I the malossi kit?
@@33machine The Malossi 5111597 come with 6.1 G rollers. It is always very difficult for us to answer this question as we don't know your set up, we get asked nearly everyday. So we always answer with the rule we follow when trying to find the best acceleration: Start with the weight Malossi has provided and then try different weights from there. You may find the supplied set up works best or you can start with a heavier set of rollers and work down in .5 gram weight reductions until the best performance is found. As always fitting multiple parts will enhance the overall performance, by this scenario I mean variator / rollers / Clutch springs / torque spring. Good luck and thanks for comment.
Hi, thx for the great tutorial. I have a question: after removing the 2 special bolts from cranckcase (anti tamper bolts), did you put another 2 identical or did you replace them with 2 normal cranckcase cover screws for easy future dismantling. If I takeout the 2 anti tamper bolts can I replace them with normal bolts or I have to buy another 2 special ones? Thank you.
Regarding the pen marks on the face of the variator. If the belt doesn't travel all the way to the top what would you change/adjust to get the belt to ride all the way to the top ? Thanks love the videos.
Thanks for the great comment😉. The Factory belt is 756mm in length, you could use a Malossi belt specifically for this model which is 765mm in length. The longer belt will travel higher and give more gearing to the rear pulley, should give a slightly higher top speed (the length difference in this example is not enough to make a significant notable change). We mark the Variator face so after running the engine to max speed we inspect to notice if the maximum belt gearing has been reached by way of the belt erasing the pen mark at the most outer point of the variator face.. There are many things to consider so proceed cautiously. With a new scooter you would expect running gear to be in excellent operating order so wear and tear will not be a factor to consider when do this experiment for yourself. I would check the maximum travel of the variator faces can be reached at the shaft (faces touching at the hub). Also to check the rear pulley can close to minimum position at the start to assist take off from idle (low gear) and also open to maximum gearing when the belt moves forward to increased speed. The variator will pull the belt forward and the rear pulley will release to allow the belt to travel down into the torque shaft. Approach the transmission with the question how to safely gear to maximum and not just a matter of fitting a longer belt.😵
Was there not a spacer in between those two pulley plates on the drive pulley schematic shows it should be a spacer, but there’s no cut out in the plate with the teeth
@@exscootable You need to test and trial different parts and different rollers to get any progress, Tuning takes time and patience. Take it to your local dealer for the best know how..
Hi,own an Aprilia SXR50 Euro5 2021.Do you know any kind of Variatorkit that will fit? The SXR is a pretty new model,so there is at the moment no specific parts around.
Hi Tomas, this new model incorporates the 50-cc i-GET engine. So we can assume it is the same as the other Euro 5 i-Get engines. But lets only assume and not confirm until someone can try this for us.. Malossi pn: 5111597
@@tomasnordin9778 There are parts available, go on be a Pioneer👌 If you can track down the original part number form the SXR and compare to the Vespa Primavera i-Get, you may see they are the same...
The pen marks indicate any movement of the nut position. Over time, heat, wear and other factors can cause loosening of the nuts. We pen mark all the nuts for brakes, wheels and exhausts so they can be visually inspected. Really good practise for always trying to do things better. You will notice we have made Pen marks on the nuts for the pulley and also the crank and clutch nuts, after a test ride we can do a visual inspection on the nut position and the pen marks will indicate movement should the nut loosen.
@@scooterstreetau I removed the whole cover around the dip stick, which was unnecessary, and I still couldn’t get it, and so I couldn’t get it out bc of the air filter box (2019) so I un screwed the air filter box and then put it back lol
The variator will increase the acceleration, mid range and top speed was 61kph. With the Injtronic (CDI) unit for 50cc model the top speed managed 67kph. We found the best increase are with this set up: Cylinder kit, Injtronic for Malossi cylinder, Gear kit, Variator, 6.5 gram rollers or depending on riders preference.
I see. But just with CDI and variator kit, which is the top speed? And , i saw in another video that special tools needed to open/close the variator and clutch. Is true ? Thank you!
@@scooterstreetau hi, you mentionned that with the variator you reached a top speed of 61kph. For some reasons, my stock Primavera 50cc 3v euro 5 reaches 64kph. Can I still see an increase in top speed with this upgrade? You also mention that the special tools we see in other videos will make the job easier. Can not using those tools damage the motor or transmission? Thank you for your really well made video!
@@cpicardduquette HI, this is good news for you👍 It is unusual for new scooter to do this speed? How do they damage the transmission? You need to use tools to carry out maintenance. Glad you like the video and thanks for watching☺
Thank you for your reply. I was thinking this might be a reasonable solution, since the special bolts are difficult to work with and expensive too.
This absolute mad lad just standing on the spring
Great video guys I just wanted to say there are better ways to change the spring on the clutch. I didn't want to pick on a negative in my opinion but just a mention. Keep up the good work.
Reply: Thanks Caleb, yes agree! There is a clutch press tool which presses the spring to release the nut. This is just a quick way to change the spring and shows that anyone at home can do it. Thanks for the comment all the best👍
Hi great informative video are you able to provide kit details for a Vespa Primavera 50cc 2021 model the ones I found online didn't include that year? Thanks
Thanks Stephen👍. All the details are in the Description, we used 5111597. Or check out malossi.com
@@scooterstreetau hi which roller weights do you reccomend to help acceleration I've just purchased the kit are the 6.5gm roller weights you reccomend included I the malossi kit?
@@33machine The Malossi 5111597 come with 6.1 G rollers. It is always very difficult for us to answer this question as we don't know your set up, we get asked nearly everyday. So we always answer with the rule we follow when trying to find the best acceleration: Start with the weight Malossi has provided and then try different weights from there. You may find the supplied set up works best or you can start with a heavier set of rollers and work down in .5 gram weight reductions until the best performance is found. As always fitting multiple parts will enhance the overall performance, by this scenario I mean variator / rollers / Clutch springs / torque spring. Good luck and thanks for comment.
Hi, thx for the great tutorial. I have a question: after removing the 2 special bolts from cranckcase (anti tamper bolts), did you put another 2 identical or did you replace them with 2 normal cranckcase cover screws for easy future dismantling. If I takeout the 2 anti tamper bolts can I replace them with normal bolts or I have to buy another 2 special ones? Thank you.
Thank you for Comment👍. The bolts should be replaced with the same type as the others in the cover and the same length of the anti tamper samples.
Regarding the pen marks on the face of the variator. If the belt doesn't travel all the way to the top what would you change/adjust to get the belt to ride all the way to the top ? Thanks love the videos.
Thanks for the great comment😉. The Factory belt is 756mm in length, you could use a Malossi belt specifically for this model which is 765mm in length. The longer belt will travel higher and give more gearing to the rear pulley, should give a slightly higher top speed (the length difference in this example is not enough to make a significant notable change). We mark the Variator face so after running the engine to max speed we inspect to notice if the maximum belt gearing has been reached by way of the belt erasing the pen mark at the most outer point of the variator face..
There are many things to consider so proceed cautiously. With a new scooter you would expect running gear to be in excellent operating order so wear and tear will not be a factor to consider when do this experiment for yourself. I would check the maximum travel of the variator faces can be reached at the shaft (faces touching at the hub). Also to check the rear pulley can close to minimum position at the start to assist take off from idle (low gear) and also open to maximum gearing when the belt moves forward to increased speed. The variator will pull the belt forward and the rear pulley will release to allow the belt to travel down into the torque shaft. Approach the transmission with the question how to safely gear to maximum and not just a matter of fitting a longer belt.😵
@@scooterstreetau wow thank you for that detailed answer, that's going to help me loads cheers
@@degsy5000 Good stuff, always glad to help our Subscribers👌.
che velocità raggiunge la vespa dopo la sostituzione del variatore e cdi malossi? Bel video,
La velocità aumenta fino a 60 km/h. Non abbastanza per la vera felicità, grazie.
Was there not a spacer in between those two pulley plates on the drive pulley schematic shows it should be a spacer, but there’s no cut out in the plate with the teeth
🤷♂🤷♂
if u keep the stock cdi does it exceed 45kmh?
yes, when we test ride it increased to 50-53.
Hi. I change CDI and variator (malossi multiwar 2000). Unfortunately my vespa goes only 55 km per hour. Do you have idea why ?
I do not know why. Have the fit the correct parts for your Model? have you checked the belt travel with the Pen Mark? See 3:00
@@scooterstreetauThank you for your answer.
No, how should it be ?
And how I can regulate it ?
@@exscootable You need to test and trial different parts and different rollers to get any progress, Tuning takes time and patience. Take it to your local dealer for the best know how..
Hi,own an Aprilia SXR50 Euro5 2021.Do you know any kind of Variatorkit that will fit? The SXR is a pretty new model,so there is at the moment no specific parts around.
Hi Tomas, this new model incorporates the 50-cc i-GET engine. So we can assume it is the same as the other Euro 5 i-Get engines. But lets only assume and not confirm until someone can try this for us.. Malossi pn: 5111597
@@scooterstreetau Thanks for rapid answer.Yes it's the 50-cc i-GET engine,and hopefully someone knows what to use,or if parts are coming.
@@tomasnordin9778 There are parts available, go on be a Pioneer👌 If you can track down the original part number form the SXR and compare to the Vespa Primavera i-Get, you may see they are the same...
@@scooterstreetau Ok,any idea where i can find the parts nr,other than at a dealer.
@@tomasnordin9778 There are many Performance part sellers across Europe. Google..
what is the white mark made with the felt-tip pen for?
It shows how high the he belt travels up the variator if it reaches the top that’s max speed anything less is being restricted and needs adjustment
The pen marks indicate any movement of the nut position. Over time, heat, wear and other factors can cause loosening of the nuts. We pen mark all the nuts for brakes, wheels and exhausts so they can be visually inspected. Really good practise for always trying to do things better.
You will notice we have made Pen marks on the nuts for the pulley and also the crank and clutch nuts, after a test ride we can do a visual inspection on the nut position and the pen marks will indicate movement should the nut loosen.
@@ronsmith7262 Thanks for helping out with this one👍
I cannot get my transmission cover box off I’ve removed all the bolts
Watch from 2 minutes, you need to remove the dipstick and shake to loosen the cover.
@@scooterstreetau I removed the whole cover around the dip stick, which was unnecessary, and I still couldn’t get it, and so I couldn’t get it out bc of the air filter box (2019) so I un screwed the air filter box and then put it back lol
@@jackstutts2325 Great👍👍
Hello!
I wish to make the same for my vespa 2019. Can u tell me how much maximum speed u have now, and if u change de CDI also?
Thank you!
The variator will increase the acceleration, mid range and top speed was 61kph. With the Injtronic (CDI) unit for 50cc model the top speed managed 67kph.
We found the best increase are with this set up: Cylinder kit, Injtronic for Malossi cylinder, Gear kit, Variator, 6.5 gram rollers or depending on riders preference.
I see. But just with CDI and variator kit, which is the top speed?
And , i saw in another video that special tools needed to open/close the variator and clutch. Is true ?
Thank you!
@@calatoriile-lui-adam See my reply above👆.
The special tool will make the job easier for you😁
@@scooterstreetau hi, you mentionned that with the variator you reached a top speed of 61kph. For some reasons, my stock Primavera 50cc 3v euro 5 reaches 64kph. Can I still see an increase in top speed with this upgrade?
You also mention that the special tools we see in other videos will make the job easier. Can not using those tools damage the motor or transmission?
Thank you for your really well made video!
@@cpicardduquette HI, this is good news for you👍 It is unusual for new scooter to do this speed?
How do they damage the transmission? You need to use tools to carry out maintenance. Glad you like the video and thanks for watching☺