THE UNTOLD STORY OF RAREGROOVE - Sam Noel original boogie dancer on the raregroove scene
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- Опубликовано: 27 ноя 2019
- Exclusive rushes from the editing room piece together the full untold stories that make up the history of Club Culture focusing on the Raregroove scene that originated in London in the early 1980's. Contrary to the story that is currently in the public domain there's a story that remains 'untold', until now, which counterbalances the urban myth created by people who previously had control of the narrative through their position as 'celebrity' talking heads. In the early 80's there was a small group of passionate music lovers who set out to provide a counter culture steering away from commercial music that was being played to punters in mainstream venues by jocks who stuck to contemporary 'club' and 'soul' charts. The explosion of contemporary sounding chart soul with big beefy handclaps and a dominating disco beat was the result of the more commercial end of the soul spectrum being pushed by the major record labels who serviced the mainstream jocks working in high street pubs, clubs and discos across the UK. A small group of DJs rebelled against this sound digging for music tailored for dancers who were developing an appetite for music that had more subtle textures. The sounds the DJs were discovering whilst digging through the crates of second hand record shops and cut-out shops was older 70's soul based jazz, James Brown style productions and soul with a raw funky edge. The music was syncopated and loose which when played back to back in a contemporary context gave rise to a freer more expressive and energetic style of moves being busted on the dancefloor. As word got out who the DJs were playing this 'counter culture' music the scene evolved attracting the best dancers in London who made it their weekly pilgrimage to come and express themselves on the dancefloors of the clubs that were building a rep for music that in retrospect became known as 'Raregroove'. Through talking to the people who were there we chart the history of the clubs and DJs that played a part in the scenes evolution. The story is raw and real told by the people who made it happen. The clips serve as an oral history of the events, the people and the music. Here I catch up with Sam Noel in 2019 after a cold sweat boogie session at THiNK! organised by Barrie Sharpe and Lascelle Gordon, two original DJs on the Raregroove scene. Sam is a club a dancer who came to our original Sunday Night sessions at the Africa Centre in covent Garden in 1986 [Wicked Pulse & Soul II Soul]. Watch all the videos to piece together the UNTOLD STORY OF RAREGROOVE - The Genre That Changed The World.
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Thank you for the history lesson of the best music dance tim3z in history, we need the top musik executives 2 r3conize this generation, day ruled da Nation, this is when England was great!!!!! Yush!!!!
If you want to know what really went on just ask a dancer, no career to bolster for them. This was a killer interview, these guys WERE the scene.
Also like to mention how beautiful it is that things have gone full circle and you're at a B Sharp jam whilst sharing your recollections....
From what I remember reggae parties in the 70's,80's,90's had always played these two step tracks along with the slower reggae and lovers rock where couples would dance explicitly in a dark corner. It's just that there weren't specific DJ's or a scene they were reggae sound men. SO I guess soul boys at the time made it into more of a following.
70's/80's where the best days of my life the east london jazz funk sciene was mental especially clubs like royalty in southgate it was having it large trust lol
African centre on a Sunday wicked, if my memory serves me well unbelievable dancers.
Africa Centre, Covent Garden.
Some hardcore truths right here. Big Up!
My first experience of rare groove came in my last couple of years at school from 83 to 85 when my black pal Ricky started copping hold of tapes from his older brothers of two different East London sound systems funkadelic and psychedelic playing at local parties they would play a mixture of soul rare groove hip hop and lovers rock hip from there onwards Bosh soon as we left school we started hitting those parties
Wow Sam, your recollections of stories and events are amazing, and you're still an outstanding dancer!
This is much needed, as things are never black and white.....edges and intersections are the well spring of creativity and where seminal culture starts and often erupts from. I grew up on the blessing of Pirate Radio which reported the culture through late 70;s into the 80's and through the weird web of coincidental connections and happenings that always seem to wing their way along, became a young DJ doing the rounds of parties, occasions trying to deploy what I had learned for the benefit of those in attendance. In London at least, other co-factors such as Electro, Breaking, Graffiti and for me mostly BMX bought everyone together on a seminal ride driven by a musical tide. A bit of a ramble, I hope it makes sense!
Love this fella true gentleman with a well educated mind
Enter the dragon was great, specially when you’re 18 and have just bought a second hand Toyota Starlet car, living the dream. Westworld was amazing, which swimming baths did use once, think it was some where in South London
Great interview 👏🏽
Dez parkes, fitzroy buzzboy
Nuf respect to you sir...Mentioning clubs and warehouse nights I'd long forgotten......Shake and Finger pop, cat in the hat, Clink Street, The flyover ( was that in Paddington aka the Westway...? I remember mutoid waste would hold jams there...fuckin mental )
Subterranean, then neighbourhood, Bed Club by Acklam off Portobello?
@@Mindy2707 nice one...
yes, we need the real story.
and one nation under a groove blow my mind lol
Enter the dragon..The Park Kensington...westworld...
Westworld Brixton Academy.... The best times
The origanal rare groove show at bass cleff
Monday nights.....fuckin awesome.....Really miss those nights...
Remember going to cat in the hat
How come there is no old photos of the Rare Groove scene ?
People came to party and get down and absorb the vibes... there was no posing and no photographers... they all went to the posh 'glitzy' trendy clubs to photograph the stars and posers. Raregroove clubs were dark full of bass and sweaty with no room or space to take photos and even if you'd tried your camera would have steamed up. Back then it was an experience not a social media opportunity... you had to go out to experience it and those that knew where to go went. Funnily enough I was a working photographer at the time but when I went to the clubs I wasn't interested in recording it - just absorbing the vibes and music. Photography would have been a distraction. Having said all that I did once take a roll of film at the end of the Africa Centre when there were a few dancers left on the dancefloor getting down but that roll was over exposed.
@@Raregrooves Good post and a unique scene with no photos but I think I seen a clip of a Soul 2 Soul video and had some dancers in it ...was that the Rare Groove crowd ?
Even when I was holding very large events in 94-97, apart from the Polaroid pictures we gave out, as I was sponsored by them, there were very, few pictures taken and nothing online as there really weren't any web services.....it's very interesting.
Charlie Brown's was at Tottenham Hale. Maybe there was another one in South London but I've never heard of it.
I was referring to Charlie Brown's warehouse party crew, who put on parties everywhere.
There was no such thing as the 'rare groove' scene in the early 80's. it was a lot later than that. Early eighties was all about the Jazzfunk scene.
Yep he was right (at least as far as my memory goes) the sound systems that played some soul which was sometimes obscure soul and growing from there. To my memory though rare groove as I know it was like 87-89 within that timeframe defo not early eighties.
Had almost all of these at the time.
www.discogs.com/label/56618-Raw-Records-3
Planet Rock by Soulsonic Force was released in 1982 and it was being played in clubs at that time. Jazz-funk scene was already on its way out, depending where you went and who the DJs were.
Re paul oconnor, those compilations came out after the rare groove scene was already dead. They had more to do with everyone trying to cash in on the phrase 'rare groove', especially for soul DJs on the scenes that didn't play funk of any description during the early-mid eighties. After that the mid-eighties, those DJs needed some of the more popular tracks from the 'rare groove' scene and there was also a demand for the two-step soul tracks on those compilations from the commercial reggae and lovers rock DJs who became the first to start playing the early RnB tracks in the late 80s/early 90s, just as club nights such as Black Market at the WAG Club began to build upon ashes of the 'raregroove' scene. The harder, more electronic side of the scene started dancing to what would eventually become known as house music. There were so many branches on the club tree, weaving in and out of each other, that for anyone to say that there is an exact time when this or that type of music was played is mistaken. Things changed very quickly between 83-88 for those who got bored easily. Most people were very conservative musically and socially at that time and just weren't interested in the newer developments or in keeping up with them.
I see that Nobby Norberto has had to edit his timeline. The early eighties was about so much more than just the jazz-funk scene for some of us, but definitely not all of us.
@@samtnoel What do you mean by I had to edit my timeline?
Never rated trevor
I remember he was always seen as a bit softer. I changed my mind the night he came on at Africa Center and dropped Iron Leg for his first tune. Good times.
Patrick Forge was the jazz and rare funk dj for me and Keb Darge... Forget Trevor Boring Nelson..... Darge was and still is a class dancer as well... Best radio Djs Robbie Vincent And Norman Jay...