We Tested 100+ Keyboard Switches For Latency!
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
- We updated our keyboard latency testing, and throughout that process, we realized that we weren't helping you all as much as we could have since we were only purchasing one type of switch on each keyboard. The initial plan was to create a switch database to help us in the future, but if we were going to test a bunch of switches… why keep that internal? So we decided to launch a new product review category!
0:00 Intro
1:25 Latency Overview
2:37 How We Measure Switch Latency
3:48 Small Batch Analysis: Consistency
5:07 Small Batch Analysis: Release Latency
6:34 Aggregate Results
8:28 Answering the Question
12:10 Conclusion
For more details about our testing process, check out our article:
www.rtings.com/keyboard-switc...
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I just wanna say that Abby is one of my favorite presenters on any platform or media. Clear talking, knowledge on the subject and pristine sense of humor. You're killing it Abby.
We think so too 😄
how much you betting that was abby who replied that :-) . I'm new to your channel, good content, well presented, thanks, just subscribed
I don't care about keyboards at all, just Abby
True, can only agree. Have only stumbled upon Rtings recently and she's a pleasant host to listen to.
I appreciate this, and especially appreciate seeing the variety beyond the market norms, such as Zeal and Boba switches. Great work y'all!
It's our pleasure! Thanks for watching and for your support as always 😄
You could increase the solenoid's release speed by using an H bridge to power it in reverse.
You should also consider testing how a switch responds to different force angles. For example, with Kailh Speed Copper switches, pressing on the top or bottom of a key causes the switch to respond sub-optimally, even changing the actuation to be well after the tactile bump.
Keyboard reviews are going to be an arms race between LTT Labs and RTINGS.
Love your guys reviews!
I love your guys data focused content and reviews. Keep up the good work.
Wow - just stumbled across you channel by accident and signed up, what a video and what a review methodology.
Also, Abby is charming, good stuff
Thanks for the kind words and for watching!
this is awesome! surely you guys aren't really looking for more switches to have to test, but it would be cool if yall did the akko lavender purples, they are probably one of the most popular budget tactiles out there. i love the videos on this channel! :)
Love this, I recommend your site to all of my users looking for fast keyboards!
Herculean effort, wow! I love the graphs, nicely done
Great job documenting the latency testing, I hope this will push manufacturers to produce higher quality switches.
Also with such low latencies consistency is much more important than being another 0.1ms faster.
Next level of testing
really clear and comprehensive test.
The only point which is not clear for me; is about the solenoid, as there is latency between sending the voltage to operate it and the real displacement of the moving part (plunger) and similarly at the release the energy of the coil is not immediately removed and it can be not symmetrical, so are you taking this into account and if yes how do you compensate for this ?
If not why not compensating for it since it is due to the test methodology I think this added latency should be removed.
Smoothness tests sound great, I've bought a few dozen switches and sadly never found a non-scratchy tactile to replace my non-mech k800 without sounding like a gunfight.
Stay tuned for that video then! And make sure to check out some of the reviews we have on our website: www.rtings.com/keyboard-switch
Yeah same. Best I could find are the Everglide Dark Jades/Moyu Black
I'm still using my K740. Never had the appeal for loud keyboards.
I've gotten used to the Khail Speed Silver on my keyboard but everyone that uses it complains they are soo sensitive. It's kinda fun watching them work it out haha
Your raw data and testing methodology is a great resource, it's a shame it's let down by embarrassingly bad "reviews" especially with the review scores lol.
Abby you and the squad are doing incredible stuff over there. My fav is the Logitech K740 (aka Logitech Illuminated Keyboard) sadly I don't think they make them anymore.
Thanks for watching and for the kind comment!😄
In your test the actuation force is neglectable because the force of the solenoid pressing the key is much greater than the actuation force. Most gamers who have tested different switches will find that lighter switches feel more responsive. That's because how people use a keyboad is not similar to how the solenoid presses the key. We rest our fingers on the key and gradually increase the force and speed of the finger so a ligher key will be already be pressed in a bit while a heavy key still hasn't moved. That's why a lighter key actually has less latency in a realistic scenario.
Can you do a latency test when having an iPhone o other phone next to a console controller when gaming? I really feel the difference even if it’s ps5 or Nintendo switch when my iPhone is on and when it’s off… (wireless interference) gaming on an LG CX.. tested on a x90j and the difference is noticeable then the iPhone is ON and OFF so maybe there is more than 20ms input lag when the iPhone is ON or maybe more? It would be a great test if you guys test it
Due to delays from the holidays, we’re using our forums to get caught up on user questions. So, our experts are happy to answer your whestions there! www.rtings.com/forums
is the huntsman v2 tkl worth getting, i've seen your guys test on the one without the tkl. Huntsman v2 beats most keyboards in raw performance and gaming. I'm using a laptop keyboard that has around 140-200 ms so I will most likely feel a difference if I get it
Due to delays from the holidays, we’re using our forums to get caught up on user questions. So, our experts are happy to answer your whestions there! www.rtings.com/forums
I'm already lost as to which keyboard to choose
great switch testing. Latency only grew over the decades, so it is good to bring praise to low latency
me who is using a bluetooth mechanical keyboard watching a video about latency: hmmm interesting
Is there a reason why keychron keyboards have high PCB latency? I really want to get one for their simple design, but I can't with that high of a latency
maybe its the polling rate. keychron keyboards have it at 1000hz
I'm so done with seeing the 8BitDo keyboard in people's hands. - I mean, I was probably one of the first groups of people who ordered one (basically first or second day after announcement, immediately ordered as I learn of it) and they canceled my order last week, months after ordering it, because of stock-issues. - It's coming back, but it was one of few new things I was excited for and actually waiting to try. And now I need to wait for the next batch...
Wheres that formula for latency :). Google Sheets share! :)
While we catchup on the backlog of user questions from the holidays (our team was off), we're currently answering all questions via our website to ensure we don't miss any! www.rtings.com/forums
Just as in analog sticks, hall effect switches rule.
The Wooting for example effectively eliminates the switch latency. 0.1mm pretravel and 0.1mm release no matter how deep you push the key.
How come Valve decided against "hall-effect" sticks on the OLED-version of the Deck, citing that the reason for it is because there's a reliability-issue?... Something is not so perfect about them, apparently.
@@michaelmonstar4276 Money I guess. And they probably used the part they had already ordered to save money.
@@michaelmonstar4276That doesnt make any sense. Hall effect in joysticks means that there is no physical contact between parts so no wear. Wear in joysticks eventually causes stick drift. Hall effect is more reliable by design and thats why they are commonly used for example in the ABS system of car brakes.
You glossed over analogue switches pretty fast. For a switch designed to eliminate latency caused by travel to the actuation point I think you should have explained them more. Unless you are planning on releasing a video just on those?
0.5ms accuracy in a 1.6ms sample is a big thing...
I grew up on playing dota 1 with 100+ping. This doesn't affect me :D I am trained in the hardest way :D
No logitech romer-g switches? :(
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TL;DW you can reduce key latency from 3ms to 1ms using the right switch... meaning for 99.99% of people it doesn't matter lol
Is it true that Robert Bigelow is funding this operation? And to what end?
Big dislike they never named the best keyboard
This is a video for keyboard switches, not keyboards! :)
no topre, buckling spring or alps switches? What a useless study.
More fanboys activated than key presses recorded. Each activation measuring 0 ms latency, becsuse they are overly sensitive and always primed.
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@linustechtips LTT Labs suddenly appears.. 😅