Keyboard polling rate matters, here's why | osu! & Etterna

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  • @tokaku
    @tokaku  3 года назад +189

    The first 1000 people to use the link will get a free trial of Skillshare Premium Membership: skl.sh/tokaku11201
    INFO AND LINKS:
    (if you don't read descriptions)
    Keyboard spreadsheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hNMXn_nkpXZIpDHZBcp95E7OweL4594_WDLCY_vTvm0/
    Flash custom keyboard (QMK) to 1000hz: (TO BE ADDED)
    Mina's WIFE FFR post: www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showthread.php?t=145215
    Etienne's WIFE3 video: ruclips.net/video/YQgGwCZTJp4/видео.html
    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Introduction
    01:41 - Polling rate and its effects
    04:42 - Chord splitting and its effects
    08:05 - Keyboard spreadsheet
    09:55 - Does polling rate matter on osu?
    13:54 - osu! and pull rate
    14:34 - Keyswitch debounce and chatter
    FAQ:
    'What is inconsistent polling rate?'
    I semi-explain it in a keyboard review here ruclips.net/video/2BoRydJWyEo/видео.html
    'Why don't you just use the keyboard scan rate website?'
    Like what their website said, it does not test polling rate. It's not very accurate either depending on your keyboard. It determined my Happy Hacking Keyboard was 33.33hz when it's 125hz, I asked other HHKB owners to test as well and had the same results. So far without buying expensive equipment, Etterna gives the best estimate on keyboard polling rate.
    'Is X keyboard 1000hz?'
    If it's a gaming keyboard from a reputable gaming company that boasts of 1000hz in their marketing material, it most likely is. Not all gaming keyboards are great, but that's polling rate and chord splitting aside and reaches more of per-keyboard review territory. Otherwise, I don't know and you will have to test it yourself.
    'But X player got X best score without 1000hz!'
    Yeah, you can still do crazy things without a 1000hz keyboard, but with a better keyboard, at high levels it gives you more hit window space to work with.

  • @Squidkun3
    @Squidkun3 3 года назад +1860

    Great now people have more excuses for being bad at osu 😂😂

    • @VINlirious
      @VINlirious 3 года назад +77

      Now my friend can complain why they keep getting 100 instead of 300

    • @VileFGC
      @VileFGC 3 года назад +20

      No I'm just bad.

    • @mahadriparabawa4846
      @mahadriparabawa4846 3 года назад +11

      Bruh why she talk like rap

    • @Zynx-
      @Zynx- 3 года назад +10

      Yes lol when I play a beatmap I was like "hey I already clicked that circle, why I miss? oh god damn it"

    • @stolpa9211
      @stolpa9211 3 года назад

      im still gonna say that im bad lmao

  • @otakudweeb1840
    @otakudweeb1840 3 года назад +19

    Why do I feel I learned more here than a week's worth of a math lesson in school

  • @cultureddoggo5606
    @cultureddoggo5606 2 года назад +1

    you know i was so used to 125hz membrane keyboard that the moment i was gonna buy a mechanical keyboard which i never did in my life, made me realized how i'm so used to it to a point somebody in the internet pointed out to me that the hit errors that look oddly placed is just my pooling rate being small, it still didn't stop me from getting below 110UR tho and even higher acc than my friends who had been using mechanical. never felt so damn good over something so small

  • @Tommo_
    @Tommo_ 3 года назад +1

    Me and my friend are writing up a doc on everything that contributes to latency in osu, and keyboard polling + scan rate are big factors to overall latency, and especially constancy.

  • @Zyphore727
    @Zyphore727 3 года назад

    15:26 'Remember to wear a vest'
    :wheeze:

  • @KalyuGD727
    @KalyuGD727 3 года назад +3

    12:06 GD community is proud 🗿

  • @sganicocchi5337
    @sganicocchi5337 3 года назад +1

    Well, good news for you ps/2 guys who probably had that keyboard as a hand me down. mine runs at 35hz (if you're wondering why its that low, i had to free up some bandwidth for my mouse that runs its interrupts at 200hz) but the notes dont seem to band at 70 and 105 bpm for me. my bluetooth keyboard bands at 125bpm and 250bpm
    ~edit: i dunno if this is true or its just me, i need you guys to confirm this

  • @goinkosu
    @goinkosu 3 года назад

    there should be more yt commentary videos with animal crossing music in the background

  • @hockypockies780
    @hockypockies780 3 года назад

    turns out i have a 1000 hz polling rate keyboard!
    for reference, I use a Corsair Strafe MK.II with Cherry MX Reds (although I really want heavier switches, the cherry mx reds are a bit too light)
    anyway, for a good bit over 100$ it's certianly a good keyboard.
    *don't bully me but yes I am a mouse and keyboard player*

  • @B31L
    @B31L 2 года назад

    the gamekay 87k is 1000hz btw

  • @senya6095
    @senya6095 3 года назад +962

    News flash: rhythm games are just typing with extra steps

    • @Mitsuhaaa
      @Mitsuhaaa 3 года назад +13

      2 days ago O_O

    • @jalmarikalmari
      @jalmarikalmari 3 года назад +7

      Tf 2 days ago

    • @SickLift90
      @SickLift90 3 года назад +6

      2 days ago what?

    • @bluwk4308
      @bluwk4308 3 года назад +10

      Everyone talking how he post this 2 days ago lol
      Me : Haha..vewy funny

    • @kalsten2236
      @kalsten2236 3 года назад +3

      HOW IN GODS NAME IS THIS POSSIBLE???

  • @poppincola
    @poppincola 3 года назад +202

    looked for an excuse why my accuracy is so low, now i just realized im garbage

  • @cjthrowsyoyos
    @cjthrowsyoyos 3 года назад +463

    TLDR: high polling equals low latency for ur keyboard

    • @DogeGaming26
      @DogeGaming26 3 года назад +8

      TLDR: Unless you want to pull off high accuracy plays on high ODs, preference matters more then your keyboard.

    • @tokaku
      @tokaku  3 года назад +132

      @@DogeGaming26 I never said anything about preference though

    • @TheBigSad8247
      @TheBigSad8247 3 года назад +6

      I noticed some softwares can adjust polling rate for mouse and keyboard. Whole there be any reason for a person to LOWER the polling rate? The way I see it: the higher, the better since there was no noted downside.

    • @tokaku
      @tokaku  3 года назад +47

      @@TheBigSad8247 it's mentioned very very briefly at the end. keyswitch debounce causes keys to chatter and send more than one input. lower polling rates will stop it. so it's a bandaid solution for keyboards for longevity

    • @TheBigSad8247
      @TheBigSad8247 3 года назад +8

      @@tokaku Ahh. Must have missed that. Thanks.

  • @chipperonio
    @chipperonio 3 года назад +560

    I didn't even realized I had a 1000Hz keyboard until I watched this lol

    • @VascoleD
      @VascoleD 3 года назад +5

      ​@@Solastis how can i know my keyboard's hx?

    • @mopthatisnotdan1273
      @mopthatisnotdan1273 3 года назад +2

      Same but since my laptop and me is shit it doesent matter T^T

    • @mopthatisnotdan1273
      @mopthatisnotdan1273 3 года назад +4

      @@VascoleD you can either use the vid or check your keybaord manual

    • @embedyt
      @embedyt 3 года назад

      same

    • @fxght
      @fxght 3 года назад

      I have razer huntsman elite wtf 1000 isn't that like the best

  • @kawaiipotato7513
    @kawaiipotato7513 3 года назад +154

    Me watching this on a 1000 hz keyboard: hmmmmmm, interesting

    • @minicompactac
      @minicompactac 3 года назад

      same lmao

    • @Kiwippy
      @Kiwippy 3 года назад +4

      basically any normal gaming keyboard

    • @cloroxbleach6825
      @cloroxbleach6825 3 года назад +26

      >Watching a video on a keyboard
      this can be taken in so many different ways

    • @kawaiipotato7513
      @kawaiipotato7513 3 года назад +4

      @@cloroxbleach6825 rgb has really been taken to the next level lol

    • @markbrown8126
      @markbrown8126 3 года назад

      me watching with a 4000hz corsair k100.....

  • @rcytray
    @rcytray 3 года назад +104

    keyboard latency, polling rate, and chord splitting is interesting and all but
    don't even get me started on hardware and software audio latency

    • @zetifyy3455
      @zetifyy3455 3 года назад +3

      Lol true

    • @legend131000
      @legend131000 3 года назад +3

      SO FUCKING TRUEEEEEE

    • @ShockingRotom
      @ShockingRotom 3 года назад +6

      Ya i play on a potato laptop with hdmi cable to a potato tv (ikik a horrible idea for playing a game like osu) with a potato keyboard which is prob 125 hrtz

    • @Zynx-
      @Zynx- 3 года назад

      oh no-
      you're actually right

    • @Kuri0
      @Kuri0 3 года назад

      @@ShockingRotom i think laptop are 1000hz

  • @junberg1
    @junberg1 3 года назад +70

    I was going to say this is the reason my acc sucks at osu, but then I found out that my keyboard is 1000hz lol

    • @omerelhassan9133
      @omerelhassan9133 3 года назад

      Lol

    • @xuyis3922
      @xuyis3922 3 года назад

      I’m so counfuesed is 1000hz bad or is 125 bad what is better

    • @junberg1
      @junberg1 3 года назад +2

      @@xuyis3922 1000hz is better basically

    • @bershy8556
      @bershy8556 3 года назад

      mine is advertised as 1000hz but every test i've done puts it at less than 100hz lmfao

    • @riax3431
      @riax3431 3 года назад

      @@junberg1 1000hz keyboards are very common these days

  • @mataznuiz
    @mataznuiz 3 года назад +88

    Ah, I was always trying to explain some of these concepts to friends but I could never be this clear, the video and diagrams/images help a lot.

  • @SpacedogD
    @SpacedogD 3 года назад +103

    Items to also consider: Scan rate of the keyboard. Equally as important as polling rate, introduces variability to timing of key press registering. 1000hz polling rate is not that helpful if the keyboard has only a scan rate per key of 33.3hz.
    Also chord splitting can occur due to a variety of reasons, one of which I've found was in relation to the way the keyboard scans for inputs, or how the keyboard prioritizes certain inputs to send out more than others in certain clusters.

  • @としゆきどま
    @としゆきどま 3 года назад +160

    This is seriously interesting for an accuracy player. I like this.
    Looks at IIDX timing window... 🙄
    I just found out that my Vortex Cypher is 1000hz.
    That's why I suck.

    • @hockypockies780
      @hockypockies780 3 года назад +7

      i care about my accuracy too, it's hard for me to keep it above 92% acc rn but im getting better

    • @emmyciyat9904
      @emmyciyat9904 2 года назад

      @@hockypockies780 I've got 95 acc, but I'm a 7 digit with like 200 pp who is an accuracy masochist

    • @hamhampangpang_customer
      @hamhampangpang_customer 2 года назад

      any play (4* or less) less than 95% acc or is not an S is embarassing for me

    • @shortscouture1
      @shortscouture1 2 года назад

      honestly people being able to play iidx with heavy omron switches with harsh judgement is so impressive

    • @katiserie
      @katiserie 2 года назад

      @@emmyciyat9904 6 digit, 528 pp, they are an endangered species

  • @stephen_ff5454
    @stephen_ff5454 3 года назад +47

    in short: the low quality your keyboard is the bigger you skill cooldown is.

  • @letor9168
    @letor9168 3 года назад +40

    Nice video , but you forget to mention that a low pulling rate can also affect your aim , imagine your cursor being on the note but the 8ms~ delay of the keyboard will be enough to make your cursor out of sync with your tapping and make you miss on jump or space stream. This issue is pretty much only applicable to osu standard .

    • @ameserich
      @ameserich 2 года назад

      This is so wrong... most gaming keyboard with 1000hz polling rate would actually take 24+ms for a key press to register, its due to the controller chip inside the keyboard... So if you have an 8k polling rate keyboard, congrats your keyboard can now do 23.125ms lol... now how about we add key press pre-travel, it will most likely take 64+ms
      Its the same thing with mouse, mouse registers like 8-12ms or maybe even more, but the difference is that mouse is a motion based controller so the higher polling rate is always better

    • @letor9168
      @letor9168 2 года назад

      @@ameserich , I love this type of response, you didnt even read what i said, im also pretty sure you didnt even watched the video, im not talking about 8khz or 933925khz, those 8ms i was talking about are the maximum delay caused by the interval of the pulling rate at 125hz (mentioned everywhere in the video).
      125hz is 0ms at best and 8ms at the slowest and for 1000hz its 0ms at best and 1ms at the slowest, + every other input lag caused by the the system and peripheral.
      And key pre-travel is not even software ralated.
      1khz+ is a gimmick

    • @ameserich
      @ameserich 2 года назад +1

      @@letor9168 i know... what im simply telling you is that you press the key based on what you see or what you wanna do, and all of that takes a long time to register. You most likely will not be able to tell the difference between 125hz-1000hz polling rate. 250hz would be great, a 500hz would be overkill even if it is chord split... Somehow youtubers find ways to push wrong information (im not mad just sus)

    • @letor9168
      @letor9168 2 года назад +6

      @@ameserich "you most likely won't tell the difference between 125 and 1000hz", that sounds like someone who never played OD10 or even just played osu, the timing window of OD10 is 38ms so those 8 ms of interval is massive (more than 1/5 of the timing window), what you are saying is true for almost every game EXCEPT rythme game
      I've played osu on a laptop keyboard (mine was 125hz) for 6 months and let me tell you I won't ever go back to a keyboard with less than 250hz for anything over OD9 or 6-7*

    • @RequiemOfSolo
      @RequiemOfSolo 2 года назад +6

      @@ameserich "I have grandpa reaction times so I'm gonna gaslight everyone else into thinking it's normal to not notice small differences"

  • @qyrene5196
    @qyrene5196 3 года назад +103

    if my computer sucks, can it be used as a vacuum?

    • @L-udo
      @L-udo 3 года назад +6

      Depends on how much it sucks?

    • @yumeiraosu
      @yumeiraosu 3 года назад +1

      @@L-udo not even 1 FPS in 2015 games

    • @replicant169
      @replicant169 3 года назад

      funny

    • @KPoWasTaken
      @KPoWasTaken 3 года назад

      @@yumeiraosu no he means how well it sucks things up

    • @yumeiraosu
      @yumeiraosu 3 года назад +6

      @@KPoWasTaken well, it's 59 suck per second then

  • @flysalot
    @flysalot 2 года назад +3

    1:00 what beatmap is this? i really need to know

  • @aetern834
    @aetern834 3 года назад +13

    i was scared after seeing this but apparently after a lot of searching (actually the first result when i googled it) my Razer Huntsman has a polling rate of 1000Hz

  • @banikawa4240
    @banikawa4240 3 года назад +35

    Me watching this with my 4000hz polling rate keyboard: I'm 4 parallel universes ahead of you.

    • @jogaming55555
      @jogaming55555 2 года назад +2

      Imagine wasting money on 4000hz polling rate

    • @asrieldremmurr3538
      @asrieldremmurr3538 2 года назад +1

      My reading this comment with my 8000hz polling rate keyboard I'm 8 parallel universes ahead of you

  • @shin-jo2801
    @shin-jo2801 3 года назад +5

    Me : *Don't worry, your keyboard is good enough my lovely 2010 laptop*

  • @dr.behrends9378
    @dr.behrends9378 3 года назад +1

    >Spreadsheets explicitly states that polling rate doesn't matter for 99% of players
    >In my opinion it matters
    Okay.

  • @AkaObbies
    @AkaObbies 3 года назад +4

    okay time to enable my polling rate forcer so i can make sure my keyboard is at 1000hz brrr

  • @Phippe
    @Phippe 3 года назад +17

    13:56 This is getting better in osu!lazer btw, input and frame rate are handled separately there.

    • @bokunorainbow58
      @bokunorainbow58 3 года назад +6

      Thank god i keep my laptop limited to 60 so it doesn't explode. Always thought it's keyboard cause the timing window pattern, until i saw this video and raised the fps.
      Guess just another reason to swap to lazer.

  • @_.go._
    @_.go._ 3 года назад +2

    It's bad to assume your audience is just using a bad keyboard

  • @ctgaming1198
    @ctgaming1198 3 года назад +5

    Omg......... how did I actually get featured in this video.... Thank you so much. :DDDD

  • @jianshen2223
    @jianshen2223 3 года назад +6

    I dont even play rythm games, but I like your approach to gaming. As good content as top Tech content producers like Optimum or even Linus Tech Tips, at least in terms of weeding out the marketing fluff and getting to the objective specs that really matter

    • @tokaku
      @tokaku  2 года назад +1

      aw, thank you!

  • @jaydenholland7540
    @jaydenholland7540 3 года назад +7

    Hey keep up the good work. This video is every well edited

  • @derps
    @derps 3 года назад +2

    some missing information on the keyboard spreadsheet: leopold fc750r using ps/2 is 1000hz

  • @KudosK42
    @KudosK42 3 года назад +3

    Sorry but, I can't change my keyboard, its stuck in my laptop.

  • @wukosu
    @wukosu 2 года назад +1

    bro i was freaking out because online it said my keyboard was 1000hz but ingame i saw the evenly spaced lines on the hit-error bar and i thought my keyboard was damaged or something but the entire problem was that the game was on power saving fps (120).

  • @James-li5of
    @James-li5of 3 года назад +3

    tutorial to flash custom boards to 1000hz when

  • @xykrongamer2504
    @xykrongamer2504 3 года назад +1

    i have a keyboard probably older than me and i get a ton of sicks on funky friday lol

  • @kitkat6703
    @kitkat6703 3 года назад +4

    i wonder how those osu keypads that are manufactured by that one guy do in their polling rate

    • @tokaku
      @tokaku  3 года назад +9

      1000hz. Arduino uses a chip that polls that quickly. Most custom keyboard PCBs have the same chip but are flashed to 125hz on default

  • @user-ui4fn6fj3p
    @user-ui4fn6fj3p 3 месяца назад +1

    I can't take some of these chord splitting comments seriously. Poor soldering? Hot swap sockets? All of this is probably coming from someone who doesn't even know what matrix scanning is.

  • @zetifyy3455
    @zetifyy3455 3 года назад +4

    You should review the Leopoldo FC750r pretty sure it’s 100hz and the quality is really good especially the keycaps
    edit: I have the FC750r now and is definitely is 1000hz and definitely recommend for Osu

    • @zetifyy3455
      @zetifyy3455 3 года назад +1

      @@YUEjyut nah it’s def 1k hertz I don’t have the spacing issue in the hit error chart trust I have a gk61 and it’s 125hz and the charts and hit reg are completely different

    • @zetifyy3455
      @zetifyy3455 3 года назад

      @@YUEjyut you got the wrong leopold

    • @zetifyy3455
      @zetifyy3455 3 года назад

      @@YUEjyut 😂

  • @Seizuqi
    @Seizuqi Год назад +1

    after replacing my 125hz keyboard with a new 1000hz keyboard, my accuracy noticeably increased.
    also outemu switches suck, they literally broke from playing osu, gateron so smooth

  • @チヱ
    @チヱ 3 года назад +3

    If you have a qmk custom, it's a good idea to add these three lines into your config.h file.
    #define FORCE_NKRO
    #define USB_POLLING_INTERVAL_MS 1
    #define QMK_KEYS_PER_SCAN 8
    Doing this will not get rid of chord splitting, but it will noticeably improve your polling rate and allow more keys to be hit per scan.

    • @expcake
      @expcake 3 года назад

      thank you for posting this!

  • @vaipereq
    @vaipereq 3 года назад +1

    I got a opto-mechanical hunstman razer keyboard and apparently it has 1000 hz
    here are the specs:
    Razer™ Opto-Mechanical Switch with 45 G actuation force
    100 million keystroke lifespan
    Chroma backlighting with 16.8 million customizable color options
    Hybrid onboard storage - up to 5 profiles
    Razer Synapse 3 enabled
    Fully programmable keys with on-the-fly macro recording
    10 key roll-over with anti-ghosting
    Gaming mode option
    Braided Fiber Cable
    1000 Hz Ultrapolling
    Aluminum matte top plate

  • @coluzea
    @coluzea 3 года назад +3

    interesting, i'm not observing the perfectly spaced lines on 75bpm, 100bpm, or 125bpm on my gk68x (not optical version)
    is it possible the normal version has the same inconsistency as the optical version? i would consider that more likely than this being a 1000hz keyboard as i highly doubt that.
    i'll try to look into this more later, as the epomaker staff are always looking for potential ways to make their products more appealing to gamers and such, so if i find anything i'd like to bring it to them for a potential fix in future releases.
    edit: according to searching through their discord server the non optical versions of their recent releases might actually be 1000hz. will still look into this further

  • @infinitewy
    @infinitewy 3 года назад +3

    i was watching another tokaku vid when this uploaded lol

  • @Fasku
    @Fasku 3 года назад +1

    imma say as a ducky one 2 owner my keyboard chatters badly 😞

  • @tvcat5096
    @tvcat5096 2 года назад +1

    even if buying a new keyboard doesnt make me better its still better than using a office keyboard that only registers 2 keys at once and ignores every other input and a """"""""""gamer"""""""""" keyboard that feels like mush

  • @delvilcrusher
    @delvilcrusher 3 года назад +7

    I just realize my keyboard has a pulling rate of 1000

  • @youkahhh
    @youkahhh 2 года назад +1

    i have a 1000hz keyboard (G512 carbon), actually 1000hz?

  • @MMenyan
    @MMenyan 3 года назад +3

    id like to make the nitpick that dthr gives od11.1
    (but it's still ar 11, bc dt affects od and ar at a slightly different rate for some reason. mb someone arbitrarily thought ar 11.1 was too harsh and capped it at 11 for dt like od and ar is capped at 10 for hr, but never did the same for the od?)

  • @meanmug6013
    @meanmug6013 3 года назад +1

    So I’ve been playing with a 15$ keyboard and I got to 6 stars I think your just bad.

  • @harrietjameson
    @harrietjameson 2 года назад +3

    you can increase qmk polling rate easily, just look it up for an easy tutorial (provided you already know how to flash a keyboard).
    All you need to do is make a new config file and define the delay or whatever as 1ms and keys per scan as 12 (fixes chord splitting)

  • @moharexx3128
    @moharexx3128 3 года назад +3

    me already knowing that my keyboard is 1000hz and why that matters:
    ah yes i see now

  • @1Collector1
    @1Collector1 3 года назад +1

    If you are bad at clicking circles a $1000 keyboard wont save you

  • @bluwk4308
    @bluwk4308 3 года назад +5

    Me : **comment this**
    Early people : **Trying to think something funny so they get pinned or noticed**

  • @Sahtoovi
    @Sahtoovi 3 года назад +2

    125hz?
    Laughs in Razer keyboard

  • @lemmofemmo
    @lemmofemmo Год назад +1

    i have a 1000hz polling rate keyboard and i still suck 😎

  • @davidhusicka8440
    @davidhusicka8440 3 года назад +1

    osu!lazer polls at 1000 Hz and I can't wait for it to replace stable!

  • @typebetanymphgamingch5UB5CR1BE
    @typebetanymphgamingch5UB5CR1BE 2 года назад +1

    Nah.. i just use the keyboard on the laptop, that's all

  • @ZinBax
    @ZinBax 3 года назад +2

    "play a map at 250 bpm if your bar looks likes this it's probably 125hz"
    me: so that's why I fail the map instantly or maybe this vid is not for me

  • @ShydenPierce
    @ShydenPierce 3 года назад

    I literally fucking couldnt hit 4 notes on my keyboard. Like it didnt register at all. thats scuffed.

  • @Starstrike21
    @Starstrike21 3 года назад +1

    calculator have awful chord splitting

  • @mayonnaisedog7986
    @mayonnaisedog7986 3 года назад +1

    How do you have the middle bottom bar on south?

  • @lazichicken1236
    @lazichicken1236 3 года назад +2

    When you realize your keyboard both has a chord splitting issue and a 125hz pulling rate....

  • @EpochIsEpic
    @EpochIsEpic 3 года назад +1

    Just double checked, my keyboard polls at 1k, I just suck

  • @tony_301
    @tony_301 3 года назад +1

    ...and I'm too afraid to test my laptop keyboard

  • @Shroudey
    @Shroudey 2 дня назад

    'I bet your keyboard is 125hz'
    Me watching this in 2024 with 8k: Close... xd

  • @petrine5180
    @petrine5180 3 года назад +1

    My keyboard is 1000 Polling Rate. I must be cool, I have a k70.

    • @danielsigala9
      @danielsigala9 3 года назад

      Same i have the low profile k70 mk2

  • @aadesh_kale
    @aadesh_kale 2 года назад +1

    4:38 MORBIUS?

  • @dimitristouhell2346
    @dimitristouhell2346 3 года назад +1

    no need to buy a 1000hz keyboard
    just overclock your 125hz keyboard to 1000hz its that ez lol

    • @nomix5176
      @nomix5176 3 года назад

      did you use hidusbf for this? does it work on leopold keyboards?

  • @jackliberson
    @jackliberson Год назад +1

    I have 150hz kb and its not that bad 🤨

  • @Dedmine
    @Dedmine 3 года назад +2

    Me: has ducky one 2 mini
    Also me: MOM! I DID SOMETHING GOOD!

  • @user-wb9og3wq5v
    @user-wb9og3wq5v 3 года назад +1

    tokaku, I use the keyboard that came with my office PC, I know that it's garbage

  • @rjswonson
    @rjswonson 3 года назад +2

    Interestingly it seems like the massdrop keyboards have a 1000hz polling rate dispite being qmk based? at least in all the information I can find about it.

    • @HeSo_71
      @HeSo_71 3 года назад +1

      Really? I never thought QMK can reach 1000Hz

    • @rjswonson
      @rjswonson 3 года назад +1

      @@HeSo_71 I am not really sure how to reliably test it, but all the reviews of the keyboard seem to suggest so.

    • @rjswonson
      @rjswonson 3 года назад +1

      @@HeSo_71 according to all the info I can find 1000Hz(assuming hardware support) is tied to NKRO so if you have a QMK keyboard with that enabled it's possible to have 1000Hz

    • @HeSo_71
      @HeSo_71 3 года назад +1

      @@rjswonson what about the chord splitting?
      I had kbd6x enabled NKRO but the chord split delay is toooo much I couldnt play 7k properly with it

    • @rjswonson
      @rjswonson 3 года назад +1

      @@HeSo_71 I have found the issue for it on the qmk github
      github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/issues/4904
      They seem unable to fix it because it breaks other qmk functionality. Untill someone figures out a fix we are stuck with it. With 1000hz it's not so bad because every report is 1ms, but if you have a slower board it's a massive problem.

  • @justinshort815
    @justinshort815 3 года назад +1

    well fuck.... thought i might have an excuse for sucking... but turns out when I looked up my keyboard.... it's a 1000hz polling rate. Welp back to sucking

  • @nukethief1
    @nukethief1 3 года назад +1

    My keyboard has PS/2 polling rate is is good or bad?

    • @nukethief1
      @nukethief1 3 года назад +1

      I googled and my keyboard is 1000hz

  • @keimarch6235
    @keimarch6235 3 года назад +2

    Skillshare is literally all youtubers sponsor now (my opinion)

  • @Yakigami
    @Yakigami 3 года назад

    As the spreadsheet said. Unless you're not that great you will not need that spreadsheet. I'm a 50k player and I use Tecware Phantom (labeled as poor keyboard with 65hz pooling rate) and I feel great on that keyboard. I actually feel better in this keyboard compared to my older brother's Logitech G512. Because I'm already used to it. It's just the matter of getting used on your peripherals. Your body would automatically adjust in when you should tap based on what you are seeing. Just like playing world of warships. You just kinda know. That if you fire this advance you would hit the enemy. Because your body could adjust. So yeah. As Tokaku said. You don't need the spreadsheet if you're not that great. But it would be useful for you in the near feature when you are in that lvl.

  • @BS-se4yg
    @BS-se4yg 3 года назад +1

    Let's gooooo, my Blackwidow Chroma has a 1000Hz polling rate. Which means I just suck..... Wait....

  • @xuanbachpham9752
    @xuanbachpham9752 2 года назад +1

    5:00 But we could fix it by adding #define QMK_KEYS_PER_SCAN (a number that is larger than 1, up to 12 keys per scan), right?
    Edit: RIGHT.

  • @xvelia9116
    @xvelia9116 2 года назад

    I wonder what's my laptop keyboard pulling rate?

  • @itchylol742
    @itchylol742 2 года назад +1

    i was looking up keyboard latency videos on youtube to find out if a better keyboard would make me better at team fortress 2 and tetris, and instead found an osu video and spreadsheet telling me my keyboard (logitech k120) is trash. this is the capitalist society we live in

  • @TofpFL
    @TofpFL 6 дней назад

    one thing i've learned from all of this, nobody gives a fuck about quaver lmao

  • @arceus413
    @arceus413 3 года назад +1

    my keyboard says its 1000hz
    its a corsair k55 rgb btw

    • @arceus413
      @arceus413 2 года назад

      update i got an apex pro

  • @adoptahighway1197
    @adoptahighway1197 2 года назад +1

    I use my laptop keyboard lol

  • @Cloudax_
    @Cloudax_ 3 года назад +2

    @tokaku This is one of your best videos yet. I've been a long-time subscriber and love how the quality of your content has improved.

  • @allainch.7251
    @allainch.7251 3 года назад +1

    Cries in Laptop Keyboard

    • @tokaku
      @tokaku  3 года назад +1

      I'm not sure what polling rate laptop keyboards have. I found a post complaining about Thinkpad though www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/9ivh0u/thinkpad_keyboards_measurement_of_polling_lag_and/

  • @IvyKloom
    @IvyKloom 2 года назад +1

    I completely forgot about the polling rate and had no clue of what my keyboard frequency is, after watching this and googled it up, I found out that my keyboard is a 1000hz polling rate .w.

  • @linobigatti
    @linobigatti 3 года назад +1

    What about PS/2 keyboards, in which the keyboard sends interrupts to the PC?

  • @frankVWVWV
    @frankVWVWV 3 года назад +1

    Just realize this is an issue a few days ago. And I can't find any 1000hz QMK firmware for my boards on the internet. So I compiled the 1000hz polling rate firmware for my kbd67 and kbd75 myself.
    I put the link here if anyone needs it (Please make sure your board is "kbd67rev2" or "kbd75rev2. It can break your board if you don't know what you're doing)
    drive.google.com/drive/folders/1sAUWsxKkX2MpXxBS28UqB3yeo_gR3GC8?usp=sharing

    • @icunary
      @icunary 3 года назад

      I have a DZ60 and am trying to compile my own firmware for qmk to make it 1000hz. Am I correct in assuming what you did was add
      #define USB_POLLING_INTERVAL_MS 1
      to your config.h file for your firmare?

    • @frankVWVWV
      @frankVWVWV 3 года назад +1

      @@icunary Yes (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    • @icunary
      @icunary 3 года назад +1

      @@frankVWVWV thanks :D

  • @FoxProto
    @FoxProto 3 года назад +1

    holy shit ct

  • @ekiM2K
    @ekiM2K 3 года назад +1

    Me with my 1000Hz keyboard because it has pretty lights.

  • @LookAtTheSkyee
    @LookAtTheSkyee 3 года назад +1

    i have a 1000hz keyboard

  • @5uru594
    @5uru594 3 года назад +1

    About keyboard polling rates. Is the polling rate on the hhkb the reason it was bad for osu?

    • @tokaku
      @tokaku  3 года назад +1

      No. Topres were just not very good

    • @5uru594
      @5uru594 3 года назад

      @@tokaku about the knock-off topres that you mentioned in your hhkb video, the knockoffs are subjectively bad. I tried it and my razer ornata is better

  • @markabilar4762
    @markabilar4762 3 года назад +1

    How did you find a picture of my keyboard model, and why did you use it as trash.

  • @litomejala3753
    @litomejala3753 3 года назад +1

    The thumbnail... I HAVE THAT KEYBOARD UHM

  • @Seppevh
    @Seppevh 3 года назад +1

    1:43 for USB its the host that does the polling, so its the pc thats asking the kb/mouse what it has done every period