NIGHTWISH - The Poet And The Pendulum (OFFICIAL LIVE) REACTION
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- This song and performance is mind blowing!! @nightwish #floorjansen #reaction #nightwish
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Tuomas in 2010:
"I like the whole concept of The Poet And The Pendulum. It's related to Edgar Allen Poe's Pit And The Pendulum and I put myself onto the altar with the swaying pendulum on top of me. I really got the shivers when I thought that yes, this idea can work. The Poet And The Pendulum, there's that word play but also it had alot of symbolism because of what happened a few years ago. I felt like I was beneath this swinging blade and that it was going to come down any minute now and split me in half. I was really excited with the whole metaphor and symbolism of that. That is still my greatest achievement in music so far I think. I actually got the idea to put myself into that song, there's actually the word Tuomas in the song, from The Dark Tower series. Stephen King wrote himself into Song Of Susannah and when I read that I thought, "This is so cool, I have to do this with Nightwish." It's such a wonderful idea and it's so crazy that it really worked. It was a bit of a rip off but that's where I got the idea."
Thank you so much for always sharing your knowledge of NIGHTWISH to me and to other reactors!! I always Love your passion, dedication and Love for the music as much as I do. A BIG THANK YOU!! Appreciate you always!
NWA Buckeye Creeker Small Town USA 🤠
@@BuckeyeCreeker1 Thank you for the kind words, greetings from the Northern Finland!
Hi pal! Nice reaction as always! Another explanation of the particular song will be given somewhere in the future through my website that I intend to share on October, where I"ll offer metal music...differently! You're more than welcome! I"ll inform you and the metal community when time is right! Cheers from Greece! Stay heathy, happy, hot and heavy!
It is true that Floor's voice captures your soul and the creation of music is a work of art.
The many "Emotional Voices of Floor", just so Magical....
Epic for sure!! Masterpiece!!
Language is limited, but music transcends those barriers and can take you to places, and makes you feel emotion, that words can never adequately describe. This song, this performance, this band, and especially this Enchantress singing, are a perfect example. Floor inhabits every song she sings. Her own empathy is transformed into a seductive display of pure emotion. She is the consummate performer !! I don't use this word lightly, but to me, Nightwish, with Floor, are PERFECT.
I agree!!
I don’t think ANYONE can top this version!
If I had just one favourite Nightwish track, this is it! Guy Elliott was the boy soprano at the start - from St Mary's Choir School, Reigate U.K. This Opus is truly a roller-coaster. I would love to know what Tuomas and Pip Williams talked about when they were arranging, conducting and recording the orchestral and choral tracks! Must have been difficult for Tuomas. Bleed no more. Counting down to get the new album! Great job!
I agree this is on its own level!!!
Hey There my friend and Dude. Buckeye, You got to this masterpiece of music and performance at last, You really need to read the full back story about this song, and what it means, and what it is about, My dear wife and I had the privilege of being 6 rows from the front and centre of stage at Wembley Arena in the UK in 2015, for the whole show, We will never ever forget it, Thank You, Great Job 👍
Brother this was something else! I have NEVER heard anything like it! Masterpiece!!!
SO, one of the greatest, or one of the most important song of Nightwish History !
And for Nightwish fans , this song is the most meaningful... I always have to prepare myself, when I watch and comment for this song and its reactions...
This songs backstory is deep and dark , especially for Tuomas (suicide by song). He said he killed himself in the song at the 10:00 time stamp , as to kill the pain he was going through. So dig deep (both letters and some interviews) ! And yet, Floor took this song to a new astral level (originally sung by Anette). Also I recommend to read "The Pit and The Pendulum" by Edgar Allan Poe for extra flavor.
The song "The Poet and the Pendulum" is a 13 Minute journey through the mind and turmoil of Tuomas Holopainen after the year 2005. It was in that year the band parted with their long-time singer Tarja Turunen and had a personal falling out with her.
The reason for Tuomas’ depression was not the firing of Tarja itself, it was what came after that. The fans idolized Tarja and they could not accept the fact that she got fired. In their heads Tarja was the one that made the band famous and they became really angry and hostile, especially towards Tuomas. They really took it out on him. They called him all kinds of ugly things and a lot of them expressed that they did not care if he would die. These are the things that brought him into depression and these are the things that echo through the lyrics
This song has the most emotional impact, at least for me... I was that that "Bastard" who abandoned Nightwish after Tarja left...Never Again !!!!
Although I love this song (Especially this version), it is the only song, I can't put to my playlist... because, This masterpiece will remain a reminder to me for my narrow mindlessness....
NWSU/FloorFan/Epican/Ayreonaut/TWA 🤘😎🤘
My Brother!! I have NEVER heard anything like this period!! it needs a second reaction after learning so much about the song!!
Buckeye, did you read the backstory to this song? Tuomas depression after Tarja .. many fans went crazy , even "friends" .... brings me to tears everytime. Greetings from nwAse Sweden
This song is a MASTERPIECE! I appreciate the info. Howdy again!! 🤠
Studio version is sang by previous singer Anette Olzon (NW 2007 - 2012).
Thank you! I would love to react to it!!
This was one of the big three. A very emotional rollercoaster. Glad you've been able to experience this one.
What an experience it was!! I went in the living room reclined back and watched it on an 80" TV in stereo! Blown away again!!
this is the best
It was Genius!!
The first singer is a boy soprano not Floor. Floor did tell Tuomas that she could do the first part but Tuomas decided to go with the backing track. BTW, when Marko is singing in Part 4 watch his fingers on the bass. They are just flying over the fret board.
I want to do a part 2 of this song because there is so much I overlooked and now getting more info from you all it is a must!! This song is Epic and Genius!!! Appreciate you my friend! 🤠
@@BuckeyeCreeker1 Hey, its me again from Germany. I was a bit frightened to see you didn't run the lyrics, because this is probably the most meaningful song of Nightwish. But you have enough empathy to get the sense only by listening to the music, which some people are not able to. But you ere right, probably it is a very good idea to slip into the whole behinds of this song a bit more decent and give a second reaction. I would really love to see that one! I hope NWA will fill you up with information, if not I am here to share my knowlege with you.
But first I will see Floor in just less than 4 weeks on her Solo concert in Eindhoven/NL and I guess you can understand how excited I am for this first check on my restlife bucketlist. I already know this will be the teariest day of my life. But that is ok. Kepp it up buddy and a lot of respect and greetings from near Cologne.
The song initially was written for Marko (because it was period between Tarja and Anette, and long before Floor). Marko, of course, is not a choir boy (part 1), however the demo version available on RUclips is interesting to compare the changes of the mood.
Wembley, 2015. And Gabriel will be along to explain the song to you. Greetings from Palm Springs, CA.
I don't think Gabriel explains the songs.
HOWDY my Friend!! 🤠
Hi @Buckeyecreeker, I've been enjoying you reviews of Nightwish and Floor. It's a pleasure to watch someone be as in awe of a singer as much as you are! I recommended Floor's song Strong to redheaded neighbor. It made her cry. I felt bad... maybe if you haven't reacted to it, I would suggest the one from Amsterdam 2022
A masterpiece isn't it ? 😉😉😉
Yes it is!
You could listen to the studio version for comparison, but it is practically a different song since the studio version was back when Anette Olzon was the lead singer. They have drastically different vocal styles.
This was on another level!!
Hello again, Buckeye Creeker. Loved this performance and your emotional reaction to this masterpiece. Fantastic as always. Thank you.
Thank you my Brother!!
My Buckeye Brother, so glad to see you back on your Nightwish journey. Don't worry if you ever re-react to a song... we'll watch you do them all again if you wanted to. Can't wait for the new song to drop very soon😊
Oh this was so epic I need to do a part 2 second reaction!!
Hello Buckeye, we met in Ashland City at Jbirds before the Upchurch concert. My son was wearing the orange Good Ole Boys Boots.
I remember you!! What an Epic time that was meeting you all!!! Happy you are here as I react to music from all over the world, You can also check out my Upchurch reactions. Thank you for being here and your support!! Hope you enjoy NIGHTWISH as much as I do!! They are EPIC!! 🤠
A description of the masterpiece of a song to help you understand what its all about . The Poet and the Pendulum was written by Tuomas (Keyboards) after firing Tarja Turnunen the original singer in 2005 She was the face of Nightwish at the time, and Tuomas (Keyboards) wrote this and considered her a muse to many of the songs he had written at that point. They had also grown up in the same city and knew each other since early childhood. Some say Tuomas was in love with her but only Tuomas knows that for sure . All the band members decided together to fire her for acting too much of a diva And her husband & Manager was stepping way outta bounds concerning the band business He always wanted more money , only big paying shows . Tuomas was painted as the devil by many fans, Press and even politicians. He went through a deep depression. He even considered ending the band . He wrote The Poet and the Pendulum at that time, and actually kills himself in the song,at the 7:00 time stamp the song says "I have but 3 min " then at the 10:00 time stamp he killed himself in the song as to kill the pain he was going through . To this day every time he plays it, it takes him back to those feelings, and shows on his face. They no longer play this song . In the last part, Mother and Father, words are said to him that his real mother & Father said to him at that time of his deep depression. One part that touches me at the end when the guitarist Emppu and bassist Marko, the only other two involved with firing Tarja (that were still active with the band at the time of this show )were standing with Tuomas at the end in solidarity and love., NOTE : the 1st two words are (The End) and the last two words are (The Beginning) representing the end of the 1st era of Nightwish and the beginning of the next era
Thank you so much for this Brother!
So heavy in so many ways...
My fav devil deep...great song.Please interesting band Dolia-the gift...amazing vocal
Replay 😊
Have great Sunday 💖
Thank You!
In this world we have music, then there's Nightwish, they exist on a level all by themselves. All of their songs are epic performances, this one is an emotional journey.....gets me every time.
I agree with this comment!! They are on another Level!!
recorded live in London, in Wembley Arena....the entire concert is on the "Vehicle of Spirit" DVD, along with the Tampere Show earlier that year.....
Thank You!
For me are this one of the best live bands ,and i see manny.
I agree!
Hi Buckeye great to see you back, thanks for your reaction to this amazing song, have a good week🇬🇧
Thank You for being here! appreciate you!
This one is at Wembley arena in London. It is too bad you did not choose the version with lyrics. It would help you to understand the story behind this song. The mental journey that Tuomas experienced after the parting with Tarja. This song may never be performed live again. It represents a tragic and turbulent episode in the history of the band. Fortunately for all of us Tuomas was able to put keep the band together and lead them into a new Nightwish era. Thus the reason the song begins with the lyrics "The End" and ends with Floor saying the words "The beginnnig". Followed by the 3 vocalization from Floor in memory of another piece of Tuomas' soul being laid to rest. A cathartic piece of musical artistry allowing the band to continue the journey of his dream. Nightwish! 🤘🤘
Well done. Especially since you did not have the lyric version and know the backstory. This song is a roller coaster ride of emotions and a masterpiece of musical artistry. IMHO - What other band would compose a piece of music like this one?
Always great to see you Buckeye Creeker! 🙏🙏
BTW - New record coming in the fall. Just announced a couple days ago. "Yesterwynde" is a fantastical voyage through time, memory, and the better angels of human nature. Three years in the making, we’re thrilled beyond words to share our tenth album with the world on September 20th!
The first single 'Perfume Of The Timeless' will mark the beginning of this new era and will be released on May 21st.
My Brother! I always appreciate your knowledge you always share with me and to everyone! You are an inspiration to us reactors! You are a Beautiful Soul my friend and there is no other Band like NIGHTWISH no one has that sound!! I cannot wait for their new album and to react to it! 🤠
@@BuckeyeCreeker1 Thank you for the kind words my Brother. You are one of the special ones. I also appreciate your participation in the ultimate goal and mission of the NWA. To spread the word about Nightwish' unique and highly emotional approach to composition and lyrical content. Even though not all music fans feel as passionate about music, it is obvious you are one of US. Happy to have you in the ranks. 🙏🙏
As always I wish you peace and happiness every day. 🤘🤘
@@Thorgrim247 I appreciate the support you always give to everyone! Thank you for sticking with me as we grow! Cant wait for the next one!
@@BuckeyeCreeker1 Always on the lookout for that big black hat! I will be there.
Floor is on another level, it's just not out of this world
Nice reaction to this super song👍
I have been watching your comments since the beginning but never responded! Now I am also on RUclips and can like and comment.
Nice of you to also refer redheadedneighbor to Nightwish, I like to watch her too.
I Love spreading and sharing the music of NIGHTWISH to others! Appreciate you for real!
Holy crap Buckeye I thought you did this already!! Thx for the reaction to this masterpiece ! Kinda kicks you in the gut , they are amazing performers. 🤘🏼💥🤘🏼
Awesome React bro!
Thank You Brother! 🤠
I love this song
There is no song quite like this period!!
🤗🍒🤘🏻 very good, well done again
Pretty hard to describe all the goings on in this song. Go back and check Floors face as she starts her 1st windmill - God Almighty, she almost takes on a hallowed death face - Holy Smokes! Marko's bass lines - WHOA. Nightwish is beyond anything I've ever heard.
What a masterpiece and epic performance!!
Watching from Mexico, Missouri.
Its like Tranberian Orchestra
They are even better for sure!! and I Love TSO
Hey, Buckeye! Glad your back!🤘🎸New Nightwish this month!🤘🎸
Once again, YT not sending me notifications - Grrr.
This Wembley 2015 performance is the best of them.
This is what Marco said was his biggest show.
My no 1 song. A masterpiece.
Accumulated notes follow...
This is a 5-part journey through the emotional turmoil following Tarja's departure.
As the founder and guiding light of the band, Tuomas' took much of the flak from those who claimed to be Nightwish fans but we're actually obsessed with Tarja and thought she WAS Nightwish - an idea that the subsequent growth and improvement of the band comprehensively demolished.
Indeed there are still people today who call the "Tarjawish" in some vain attempt to make Tarja something she wasn't. (Don't get me wrong, Tarja can be fantastic, but Nightwish is about Tuomas' and his compositions. We are fortunate he now has Floor to exhibit his works.)
The parts are:
1. White Lands of Empathica (The End) - the end of a band as well know it. Later to become known as the "End of an Era"
2. Home - the breakup of the band and the wish to find a place, home, to go to and get away from the madness of those who hated. Of course, there is a lot more in here too.
3. The Pacific - as usual, Tuomas' needs to reference the oceans, one of his "grounding" themes. His love of the ocean metaphor is well-docunented. He did, of course, originally dream of becoming a marine biologist. Strange that he should have a gnat named after him!
4. Dark Passion Play - the hate of Tarja fans led him into deep depression. However the band were not in good places so he didn't feel he could "cry on their shoulders" so in the end he went back to see his
5. - Mother and Father (and The Beginning) - the lyrics here reflect what his mother said to him at that time. The beginning of a new era and new line-up
BTW, they are not hanging out having a chat as such - see later.
Tuomas refers to the ocean frequently - the second album is called Oceanborn, Dead Boys Poem ends with reference to ocean soul and Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean ends with lyrics about setting the dolphins free and "we shall wash the darkened blood red sea, our voices shall echo over the mountains and seas".
Tuomas is a very special person and this is, for me, the pinnacle of his work.
Nothing surpasses it.
For him it is one of the deepest songs.
Quotes from the band on the making of the album and the song...
TUOMAS: We will never play "Bye Bye Beautiful" or "Master Passion Greed" live again, [sic] because the lyrics are just too unambiguous and personal. There was at least as much gloom behind "The Poet and the Pendulum", too, but it leaves a bit more room for interpretation. It's easily one of our best songs but especially, the "Mother and Father'" part in the end always stirs up such a storm of emotions that it's impossible for me to do it every night. Playing "The Poet and the Pendulum' is a real rollercoaster ride - it makes me feel anxious, blush, laugh, and, in the end, just happy that that part of my life is behind me.
My notes:
My number 1 Nightwish song and for good reasons.
(No 2, Song of Myself, No 3 7 Days to the Wolves.)
This is a deeply emotional and meaningful song with which I empathise and it helped me to see that there was a way forward when depression struck. I am not alone in being "saved" by Nightwish, a fact that Tuomas has referred to and said he could not terminate the band because he knows they have meant so much to some fans who feel their lives have been saved by Nightwish.
He feels that he has a responsibility to the fans - not your standard rock musician then.
Floor is worth watching closely, her facial, hand and whole-body motions reflect the emotions she is portraying. Hands in Mother and Father for example. Tearing her hair in the Dark Passion Play section.
Note that when Tuomas talks about "Poet" he is always referencing himself. It happens throughout his ouvre.
You will see other cross-references too. Tuomas does that deliberately to give the fans a sort of anchor. Meadows of Heaven is another example - a song in itself and often referenced.
For what it's worth, here are are my thoughts and interpretations...
End to beginning - death of one era of the band, beginning of a new era.
Regarding the end of the first Era, I see no point in the blame game.
The band split, that is all we need to know.
Whatever the causes there was bound to be emotion on both sides so I leave it at that.
But this masterpiece is what came out of Tuomas' emotions.
The beginning is a boy soprano, Guy Elliott who also does the spoken parts. The whispering at the beginning is the central spoken section, but played in reverse.
Then we get the whole section "Home".
I see the "shoulder cries more" as having no shoulder to cry on because the other members of the band - his friends - were equally upset.
The "whore for the cold world" I see as the selling of his whole life to the music industry (the metaphorical pimps, hence the "whore" references) which is not interested in the person, only what they can get from the band.
The two faces bit is self explanatory; almost everyone will have been in situations where they have to hide their feelings and present a false front to the world.
The reference to betrayal is again obvious and there are lots of metaphors in the surrounding words. The altar I think, is the tie to the band - these upheavals in 2004/5 were not the first time Tuomas had felt like ending the band.
By the way, note the 3 minutes and counting: exactly 3 minutes later you get the guillotine motion.
By the way, Marco made the demo version of this, with all the lyrics sung by himself and with harsher lyrics at this point too.
Next we get to the Mother and Father section with Floor, Marco and Emppu all sitting, while Floor sings lyrics reflecting the words from his mother when he went back home for a break in the middle of all this turmoil.
These are the words of love and then of advice, that he was given.
Floor here is using her finger movements to accentuate emotion.
This whole section and the way Floor sings it, is packed with those damned Onion Ninjas.
Marco's harmonies are wonderful.
We end with the final ethereal notes from Floor and here is another tingle-factor moment. Then a gentle piano ending, the calm after the emotional storm.
Here, as in Sparkle my Scenery, the choir on the original album is replaced by Floor who wanted to sing them herself (and proved completely capable of it) which Anette could not have done - she could probably get the notes but the emotion is there in the choral original and is amplified when Floor sings it.
The low brass used in many places is really effective.
On the performance itself:
When Emppu goes over to Tuomas and later both Marco and Emppu go over, it is a sign of moral support. They both know how difficult this is for him - eventually he had the vocals turned off in his in-ear, so he didn't have to listen to them because Floor put such emotion into them.
At the end, she does not say "Thank you" immediately, as she does normally. Instead she looks over for a few seconds to check on him from her position.
BTW, I have never bought the theory that Tuomas was "in love" with Tarja. Those who say he asked her to join the band because he knew her from school - she was suggested by Emppu who had known her as an acquaintance at school.
Tuomas' did know her of course and his mother was for a while her piano teacher, but it was Emppu who suggested her.
Edit: turns out YT had unsubscribed me. Happening to a lot of people, I've heard.
I have been getting that also! no notifications when I get some comments! Appreciate you Brother!
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" The end......The beginning "
And Helluwa Lot in between!
Nicely done män.
Greets from FIN.
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My Brother! So good to see you again and thank you for being here for this!
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My Brother!! always showing support everywhere. Appreciate You!!
thank you
Your welcome!!!
Hey guy you've missed the "Thank You" of Floor. But why she says it? We, the audience have to thank Floor that she is sharing her ability to sing like no other one can. "Others sing what they can, Floor sings what she wants". That's the truth.
I concur... 1000%
I love your reactions. You appreciate good music!
I appreciate you!
Oh yes buddy, forget about studio version (that one is with Anette btw) THIS is the ultimate version of this beautifull song/story... this is live at Wembley '15. I'm not sure how good you are at catching words of a song, but if you're less than perfect at this, i would have recommended turning lyrics on... this song is one of those it matters most... some of those words are worth to be a life credo!
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Wembley Arena concert 2015: ruclips.net/video/N_jgyrlONPc/видео.html
1. Shudder Before the Beautiful, 2. Yours Is an Empty Hope, 3. Ever Dream, 4. Storytime, 5. My Walden, 6. While Your Lips Are Still Red
7. Élan, 8. Weak Fantasy (Preceded by a Dawkins' narration), 9. 7 Days to the Wolves, 10. Alpenglow, 11. The Poet and the Pendulum
12. Nemo, 13. I Want My Tears Back, 14. Stargazers, 15. Ghost Love Score, 16. Last Ride of the Day, 17. The Greatest Show on Earth
Nope, there is NO better version of this song. This is THE definitive version. The studio version does not come close...
That voice is a boy soprano.
Tuomas wanted to kill himself but then made in this song. There's a part I have 3 minutes an counting... And see what's happen exactly 3 minutes of that