Too Institutionalised - Louis Theroux: Miami Mega Jail - BBC Two
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Louis disagrees with Johnny's views on how to deal with people who show him disrespect.
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He said "nutty" like Louis 😂
Frankie 3 😂😂
ha ha I caught that😂😂
😂
lool funny that.
@toilet paper smooth
Guy: "If a person disrespects you, then you assault them, right?"
Louis: "No"
He wont make a day on jail
inked g0d yeah that’s not the type of attitude that leads to you becoming a successful prisoner in jail.
It is the type of attitude that leads to being a widely respected millionaire journalist with enough empathy to get closed and hardened people to open up and be honest.
So I guess you have to play to your strengths.
Benjamin Playford ...huh? How in gods name do you reach that conclusion?
@@jaymiddleton1782 It was rather pleasant though to watch a lefty elitist get schooled in working class reality.
@@sliperysid what a weirdo lol
Sad to see Joleon Lescotts life take a turn for the worse after retiring from football
🤣🤣🤣🤣I was looking in the comments for this
Hahaha
Lescott ffs man hahha
😂😂😂😂
His name is peter levie
1:53 “if a person disrespects you... then you assault them right?” .. so calm &
natural. Louis like “no???”
He’s intelligent and can justify everything he does, clearly and concisely. Imagine what he might have become if he was actually raised right??!
It is because when you put hem next to a shitlib of a Theroux with his sissy arguments, everyone comes over as intelligent and articulate.
Sure but that doesn't show clearly that he is intelligent and it doesn't always have to do with raise.
It's bad Chris Pontius!
@@marvinkem3201 when you obviously can’t put a sentence together as well as the guy, or even speak properly, you can’t say much can you?
He didn't make the unwritten rules, he just observes them. The conversation between the two could be understood differently if Louis Theroux was an inmate. I'm sure then he would certainly modify his opinions on how to live in prison. As for being brought up right or not, I doubt if that is the cause of America's mass incarceration. I'm speaking as someone in a small European country where we have prisons etc. but we do not have, and are not ruled by a world domination, violent culture that sets the norms throughout society including in prisons.
He never breaks eye contact
Most males have an incredibly hard time maintaining DIRECT eye contact and body posture. It's a sign of aggression even in human males (exact opposite of females oddly). It's only people who are weak minded trying to prove they're tough or legitimate bad asses that do this. Look into his dead shark eyes and guess which he is........
It's all about confidence.
@Mosley Shoahs I sure do. Badass
Its close conversation its normal to have eyes contact like but on the outside walking on doing the same eyes contact to everyone you will look weak for the strongest
@@noraa6665 i dont get it is it a sign of weakness or strength.
this for me is one of the most memorable interview of louis work for me, never breaks eye contact and the mans answers where genuine 1:29 onwards his words about being in jail for 10 years and how that affected his mentality the part about respect was very relatable as well.
Yeah this was way better than crazy babbling weirdos to traipse on the screen like a circus. It was insight into why someone most people never could understand does what they do
the scene where he last talks to louis before going into a new cell - you can hear people yell NEWBIE and he gives the camera one last look before they slam the door. crazy
“I went nutty too”😂😂😂😂
That guys eye contact game is on point.
He's an interesting character....seems quite intelligent and full of potential
But wasted
True... damn shame he chose that path of crime, could have made a good life for himself I'm sure.
@@ivx8345 It was probably chosen for him at a young age. Like he said, that's what he was taught when he was growing up.
He is but like he said way institutionalized and prison change people especially in america where you need to join a gang even if you dont want to
@@banglaline3859 taught his ways as a child and never given a chance by the system that puts him in prison repeatedly for profit
I like how this guy isn't nervously laughing or anything about talking to the reporter. Most prisoners act tough on camera but this guy couldn't give a shit about Louis. He's genuinely a tough bastard who knows his harsh reality starts again once he leaves the TV crew. I hope he made it out and makes something of his life.
+Ivan Drago He's a latin king man not much going for him
Hill_D0gs Hairy_pusss American crime sentences are very harsh. In UK you can kill somebody and be out in 1 year with the right lawyer. Our country is a fucking joke.
Ivan Drago Well that's never happened anywhere so never-mind
Hill_D0gs Hairy_pusss Happened in my town.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7928920.stm
He got out after 1 year under the 50% remission rule for good behavior.
Ivan Drago Yes he got two years for manslaughter. It didn't have anything to do with a good lawyer, the court was lenient for the reasons named in the article e.g. his age, his intent, he stayed with the body and plead guilty straight away. I might have tacked on a few more years, but it's hardly a case murderers walking amongst us is it?
One of the most depressing Louis clips for me this. The way at the end after louis says you shouldn't assault people, he just replies 'That was the way I was brought up, that was the way I thought it went'. Almost recognizing the faults in his own upbringing having the negative effects on him now.
BS, he's just naturally like that and likes to beat people up.
By saying that he did the assault because that's how he was brought up, he's recognizing that his actions are wrong and blaming it on his upbringing. If you're aware your actions are wrong then you gotta stop doing those actions - you can't just continue being a dick and blame it on your upbringing.
At some point you need to take responsibility for your own actions.
I think he's being sarcastic when he said that, almost like he's trolling.
@@simonyip5978 yes he is being sarcastic, but he's also being honest about how if he feels disrespected, he needs to dominate to get it back. I suppose if he doesn't, he feels like he lost something, like he is less of a man. I still think with a lot of time and determination, you could reach him, and then he could feel like he has a decision in the way he acts. Lois isn't reaching him, he's just conversing.
0:42 he like "got him!"
I love it when an American try’s British slang for the first time; I went nutty too 😆
I don't think 'nutty' is an exclusively British term for madness, Americans use it too...you see it used in movies and documentaries
@@ZaydDepaor Nutty proffesor
@@ZaydDepaor but his pronunciation was British, Americans say nuddy, we say nutty
I like the way Louis Theroux frames his questions and his honesty and clarity. He tries to get to the truth of the matter.
"I went nutty too" did he go to eton?
Can you imagine him at Eton?
@@dd.4910 Can you imagine that, him at Eton?
@@henkdetenk3480 Albert Barese ova here.
00:43 I think he had Louis for a second there ahaha
Holy shit, what a dangerous guy! Utmost respect to the prisoner for risking his life talking to that animal 👍
i hate it whenever he ended his sentence he had '' thats a wisdom'' face ! :D
fuzzy fuzzy wisdom face lmaooo
ha ja good spot. I'm going to know what to call that now ,
This guy actually seems very intelligent and articulate. He expressed himself well and when he talks you listen. He may have different morals and beliefs on how he should behave compared to most of us but I can see why he acts the way he does.
I commend you for mustering some respect for him. But please, he has no morals. He has life rules, that's different than morals.
@@Paretozen in jail if you don't act tough and beat who disrespect you , you will look weak like a free meal that's one of the codes of jail
"very" intelligent? That's quite a low bar.
He flat out says he will beat anyone who disrespects him, which is a valid thing to do in prison, but not outside, but he fails to see that cause he's so used to the thug life.
He is streetwise, he isn't stupid might even be above average but what he did was stupid.
Good of you to look for positives but I feel like he's a total piece of shit and uses any intelligence he has to justify his abhorrent behaviour even though he knows its wrong.
Seems like a reasonable guy but you don't want to mess with him or he's gonna split your wig.
Or bust your cheeks.
@@danieladams4561 😂💀
he's completely unreasonable. he's a sociopath.
@@gotacallfromvishal yeah you can see it in his black eyes.
This guy comes across as crazy and calm at the same time
In his life and reality, the behavior isn't crazy at all though. After 10 years of having to live that life in a prison, and being raised that way, it's perfectly sane behavior.
In Louis' world this behavior is crazy. In his world it would be crazy not to behave like this.
This guy isnt crazy hes deliberate.
A lot of the prisoners in this documentary aren't the sharpest tools in the shed. But this guy is self aware and analyses his own situation and knows why he acts the way he does. And yet he still does it. What can you do with a person like that?
Product of his environment. Wouldn't survive if he didn't act the way he does. Behaviour like his doesn't mean he is unintelligent, just conditioned
@@careenfarrell9544 well said
@@careenfarrell9544 very true. Real shame the trauma of that twelve years (and what may or may not have happened before it) will probably never be undone - the guy could probably have been just about anything if he was given a good shot at the outset
He didn’t break eye contact for a second.
When he says Nutty he sounds exactly like Dr Narcisse from Boardwalk Empire 😭😭😭
Louis trying to reason with a hardened criminal.
Even u can be there one day, being a criminal is a response to the hardship of their life
It seems to me in different circumstances he'd be very different, the way he talks and thinks he seems like a man who could be reasoned with and even a guy if you knew who could be pretty stand up if he had the chance, he's obviously not a dummy. This was 10 years ago, maybe he's out and free, but realistically probably not, I just find it sad TBH, it's just wasted lives.
the guy was making some interesting points to be fair
Louis is just playing his own game.
Louis is an out and out Liberal. Can't understand his thought processes. The inmate is a product of his surrounding as most of us are. Never been in prison but grew up on the most deprived council estate in Europe. I'm nearly 44 and almost everyone I grew up with is in prison for life or Dead made me pesemistic.
Feel so sorry for lost souls like this the system has to change from holding offenders to rehabilitating them
That's almost comical at the end! The fact he's genuinely shocked that Louis doesn't assault someone of they disrespect him 😂
Tough to tell if that's he meant, if you watch the full documentary you can see that he has a good sense of dialog and uses sarcasm to get his points across with Louis as to why he acts this way in Prison. There's another scene were this inmate is being written up for this fight by a co, and Louis asks him how badly did you beat him up? This dude responds "just enough so he stops and doesn't do it again"
he made some good points up until the 1 min mark but then it went south lol
I’ve spent 14 months in a French house of arrest a dozen years back, it wasn’t fun at all, but when I see those interviewed in the US, I feel like I was in fact in a gentlemen’s club...
'You wouldn't do that on the outside'
....Why do you think he is in jail bro?
"so which one is more important, for me to be seen like a monster in your eyes, or for me to feel like I have no respect in mine" .. I'm not saying that it's the right thing to do.... but I understand.
When he replied "you don't?"🤔 He was like Louise, are you this stupid?😂
That was really well said at the end. He explained what subjectivity there is to life on the tougher side of town. "if someone disrespect you , you assault them right?"
No that's baaaad...
Oh see I didn't know that.
The guy is confusing fear with respect.
+franksoul Something like that. Did people try to teach him the difference i wonder?
franksoul if people fear you they respect you
He's not confused about anything. He is fully aware that he has been "institutionalized". In prison fear and respect are the same thing. If he doesn't respond in this way he will be victimized by others. Sad but true. And then these guys bring this conditioning to the streets when they are released... You beat and cage a dog for years and it will bite strangers, even if you give it a good home after the abuse. Not saying this guy is a victim, he probably did something to deserve to be incarcerated but the American prison system turns a petty crook into a seasoned criminal. It's a terrible system.
respect comes from either love, fear, or both. In prison its hard to instill love in others so u instill fear which leads to respect. its sad but true
You might disagree but this is the truth.
Good interview. "All right".
He seems extremely switched on more than the average person
This guy is absolutely on point in all fairness
Inmate: if a guy disrespect you then you assault him right?
Louie: 👁👄👁
“Punch and grab, punch and grab, that’s all I was taught.”
Solid responces.
We could all be his shoes. It all boils down to education, circumstance and plain luck. This guy isn't some dumbass,like you usually see in these videos. I just saw him talk circles around Louis. I see wasted potential.Unfortunate.
" I just saw him talk circles around Louis. I see wasted potential."
What potential? If it is due to what you just wrote down - we couldn't ever have been in his shoes unless we were born the very same way, in the same circumstances. There were tons of crime bosses who were smart and eloquent, what does it matter that he's not your regular footsoldier?
No I couldn't, because I chose to make something out of my life. Education is right there available, use it. Don't make him into a victim when all he is a victim of is himself.
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He has intelligence, clear logic. Yes, wasted life...
A lot of criminals are smart, eloquent and also brutal. Look at the worst crimes in history such as genocide, ethnic cleansing and war crimes. Often committed by elected government who never see the inside of a prison cell.
1:58 "you don't?" 😆
I do not like how they interviewed him there right in front of other prisoners, how is he going to be honest and upfront? With other prisoners looking on that will judge him and call him out for what he said to the camera crew.
What matters more, to be viewed as a monster in your eyes or to feel like I have respect.
That dude might be a rough gangster from the streets with no empathy, but he sure as hell isn't stupid. He knew exactly where Louis was going with his questions.
That guy sounds like Gil Scott Heron.
I feel sorry for this guy, he had potential at some point, there is hope still for him.
Got life in 2016
@@mohamedduale6759 damn.
I sure hope this guy finds peace in his life
He was arrested for manslaughter. He deserves no sympathy.
I gotta agree with him on the neighbour scenario! The weeds are growing through my back fence
No! Anger and aggression are not a mental disease as you say. Anger and aggression are emotional responses.
I mean, most mental diseases are characterized by the emotional responses they elicit. He is simply eluding to that point. Bipolar disorder for example is characterized by the dramatic changes in mood, energy and behaviour, where a person can go from a period of extreme elevated moods, to extreme sadness.
sp4de69 Mental illnesses are defined by criteria that are dreamed up by the drug companies behind closed doors to sell their product. Not saying mental illnesses are not a thing because they are. Just saying that people misunderstand illnesses (including doctors) due to this web of diagnosis being spun out of control by big pharma.
I feel you hro..
He’s eye contact is sooooooo like mad didn’t even look away lol he’s serious boy
1:43 what a quote
Louis was just speechless by the end of it.
In emergencies, you can't live life by a perfect code. You have to break them to survive or get out of the emergency. Prison itself is an emergency situation. If you don't beat for being disrespected, then you will be beaten.
“I went nutty too” 😂
This dudes story touched me
Late comment, but,
I'm delighted with the way he said WENT rather than WINH, classy dood....
If someone disrespects you, you assault them.... ends up in prison.. 🤦♂️
Good clip. This lad has a aura about him, cold eyed ,serious mush.
He has those dead trout eyes
Johnny clever dude.
Did anyone notice the Latin King tattoo on his neck? He's no joke..
James Conr
Aint they new york? Swear he from therr
he said in this video hes already done 10 years in new york
He's not even Latin.
user12345 ye he is.u can tell
this is incomprehensible for me as in my social group its the one who resorts to violence who loses respect
Real shit
Sad:(
"I went nuh-tee too" 🤣
Very intelligent!!
I am fascinated by his mindset
This is what happens when children grow up in broken homes. They have no moral role models to help guide them in the right direction.
u dont know him or his story
No this is what happens when people let their kid listen to rap music. In fact listening to rap music should carry 25 to life sentence because you know thug life
[Content Deleted] funniest troll comment i seen in a while 😂 good 1 bro
YG BH that [Contend Deleted] post is a genius troll of the original post.
Next step is to say “this is what happens when you let your kids be black.”
Let’s be honest that’s what’s just below the surface here.
no, this is prison. you disespect someone in prison you're getting beaten or stabbed
If a person disrespects you, you assault them
am i the only 1 who wants yo give him a hug???? he'd probably punch me in the face if i touched him though !!
Steph shame no one would want to do that to you ya dog
jenna orlandos man might touch you down 🤜
That Man raises some good points.
This is a perfect example of a very intelligent and emotionally deep person who simply grew up in the wrong home.
Plenty people grow up in the wrong home but deciding to commit violent crimes is exactly that, a decision, and it's one that most people don't make. It's a mistake to let your sympathy circumvent the fact that the guy is there for a good reason. It's an insult to the victims to do this, and it's also an insult to anyone to presume their life is driven by factors purely out of their control.
That's the way I was brought up that's the way I thought it went.
I like to think he went and reflected a little on his ways
@@shrimpanzee001 Countries with rehabilitative judicial systems have far lower rates of crimes than countries with punitive systems. It's completely ignorant to pretend the state of society has no effect on crime. Compare the US to every single other 1st world country to see what happens when you adopt a punitive system.
He seems completely devoid of emotion I feel. I think he's definitely intelligent but I think this man is a natural killer
No it isn't. He's a grown adult not a child.
I love Louis documentaries 💪🏻 he don’t give a shit how dumb his questions are and the shit they could get him in 😆😆 top man
I like him seems like a nice lad.
he's a bit of a mad lad
a curious thing is how unforeseeable factors can drive people to change, in 10 years he could make a breakthrough and feel remorse for what he done and resolve to change. almost anyone can do this, even animalistic psycho killers, im lucky i managed it young before ending up in the unfortunate position like he finds himself
Damn right. People have to be invited to see their full potential. You can't do that when caged like an animal. Norway have it right IMO. A lot of people don't like the idea of treating inmates like humans, offering creative pursuits and decent facilities, but it's the best way to get them out of their bubble of ignorance. Straight punishment is nowhere near as effective as helping someone grow as a person.
*cue seethingly vengeful comments from the "hang em, flog em" brigade.
Shi Tun Yu I can see the pain in his eyes from a abusive childhood I feel for this guy.I wonder how he is doing now. he is one of gods children.
This guy dont want to be there..u can see his intelligent n frustrated..l can see his remorseful..very sad
Man i knew it!! From the start of this video. Dude had a new york accent. Confirmed at 1:21 min.
TRUTH
The eyes never lie Chico
I went " NUTTY" too
smart prisoner the way he speaks
No choice but to act that way if you want to survive prison.
He interviewed Louis
When Latino James St Patrick was in prison
It's easy to say, "you wouldn't do this, you shouldn't do that."
When you're on the outside.
If this was some cheesy jail drama show, the man would make a statement that 'if you're in my shoes, you'd do the same.'
But the man is too intelligent to state those obvious lines. It's enough that he thinks them. I think I could read it in his eyes.
lol this guy just shut down louis with those first few responses
Dude has a point 🤣🤣🤣
This blokes more defiant than my misses. And that’s saying something.
“I went nutzi too...”
An update on what happened to these guys would be great. If there lives changed at all since filming
Easy Company he’s doing life. Search Johnny Jackson Miami jail. It’s has mug shot and rap sheet
www.rapsheets.org/florida/doc-prisoner/JACKSON_JOHNNY/B05983
He's doing life for robbery?!
Very clever replies . Regardless of right or wrong
Lowkey makes some good arguments
This dude is super chill .... he just don't take any bullshit
Geezah!
"So basically I'm a big dumb sack of shit but I deserve respect"
If i were in Jail in the US, i would definitely go crazy
I feel this guy has just thrown common sense in the face of post modern thought lol