15 years of using drugs - Louis Theroux: Dark States - BBC Two
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She's featured in his new series looking back at earlier subjects. She's clean and out of the hell circle. I was so glad to see it - she's been on my mind for years after watching this.
Thank you for the update. Very good news🌹
where can I find this?
@@ofin9335 About 54 minutes into Louis Theroux Life on the Edge - Episode 2 "The Dark Side of Pleasure" - It's on BBC iplayer.
@@cookslooking10 Cheers mate.
Flip, brilliant!
You can tell that he's abusive.
His body language shifted to him looking guilty and wanting to hit her again!
Yea he wanted to whoop her
Yeah, exactly. His body language said it all.
I was going say.. lol there is pretty obvious signs there in the way he spoke to her.
Or she's a liar
@@jeniseweeks671 lol fo real
i feel terrible for the girl. i hope she beats her addiction and gets away from that abusive boyfriend of hers.
*speaking in a serious voice*
“And Petty Betty’s car had gone AWOL”
Even when he talks to her you can see he likes to intimidate her
This is so freaking sad. So much potential wasted.
Louis really is a great interviewer and presenter such a great humble man.🙏
I've been there ..heorin was my everything..I hated it ,I loved it..you create this hell for yourself where I felt like was constantly running but going nowhere..i was lucky,got popped and detoxed in jail now 3 yrs clean..have empathy and compassion for us addicts we never wanted to be this way ..none of us NEVER.
A felony arrest and possible conviction for possession of a controlled substance doesn't sound like the lucky way of detoxing =\
root it was uttering threats and some other minor things I managed to get off on,but at this point in my life I had no one to call and bail me out so I spent 14 days in Jail. Enough time to get clean and stay clean. Scared straight I guess you could say. I never did drugs but go an ankle operation in my 20s got prescription meds and if was off to the races from there. Putting in context I feel very lucky.. luckier than most
Hedonism taking to great lengths caused physical addiction. My question to you is that, would you have disciplined yourself away from heroin had you only tried it and not psychologically got addicted.
All respect to you for staying clean. You’re strong!
Rebecca Loughran I'm glad you're doing so well but I think you're wrong, some people do want that for themselves unfortunately.
She looks pretty ok for someone who has been using for 15 years
@Jack Osborne that's what they all do.
I know right, imagine how good looking she would have been without using drugs all them years, what a sad waste.
girls can hide it pretty well if they are good at make up and don't completely ruin themselves.
I know some females that use and you wouldn't be able to tell at all. some of them are high class call girls as well as they are extremely good looking. you simply would not know unless you knew that they were crack and heroin addicts.
I think the ones who still look good somehow manage to maintain good habits throughout their addiction instead of completely abandoning themselves as normal crack/smack addicts do. If you can still eat 3 meals a day, exercise hard 2 or 3 days a week, have a wash every other day and sleep 6 to 8 hours a night then you will look somewhat decent, especially if you dress well and do your makeup correctly as this girl clearly does. I know this cus I was a heroin addict for 2 years, but was still eating properly (4 meals a day), working out with weights twice a week and sleeping 8 hours a night, washing every day and dressing well. I looked the complete opposite of a heroin addict, so much to the point that when I was buying the dealers questioned me seriously asking if I was a cop, all the other users sitting in the dealers den looked at me every time with huge suspicion, clearly thinking someone who looked as clean cut and healthy looking as me must be the law doing an undercover job.
@Daddy Longlegs It is hard to call them human beings.
She is gorgeous! I really hope this girl find away out of her addiction..
I've never seen a happy heroin addict. Never seen a heroin addict that wasn't depressed and talked about dying.
After 10 years I'd actually not expect to ever see him again. He probably just died a while ago.
They have a morbid romance with darkness and death.
happy people don't use heroin. fact.
Jesse Gandy
It seems OK at first but gets shitter as you get older and realise how much times been wasted and the impact on health and relationships.
Daniel Corcoran not a fact, plenty of happy people start using for whatever reason they have, then the unhappiness comes
he got awfully defensive for someone who claimed to be innocent.
If you watch the whole documentary, youll see hes actually her pimp and he keeps her captive with drugs and violence. Its kinda sad to watch
do you know where i can watch the whole thing?? i couldn't find a decent link anywhere.
I believe he did what he did, but I never get the, "He is defensive argument". Everyone gets defensive if they are accused of something horrible and didn't do.
BBC iplayer
Wig Split not always true
Notice how he never actually verbally denies hitting her. Very telling when someone is attempting to lie.
That and the blatant body language
such a beautiful girl - stuck with a waste of space because of drug addiction - how awful.,
It is sad, but in the end of the day she needs to take some personal responsibility. Really do hope she can get clean though
They're as bad as each other.
But if she was ugly you wouldn't care as much right?
@Vodoo Child Sentence much?
@10MM aight lil boi
Very sad . Louis summs it up nicely at the end.
im addicted to this guy
just dont push his grill over
he might seem cool like he has some "swagger" but he beats up his wife for Gods sake!!
That's what she said
raspberry yoghurt in my bag he has a brother that docs called Marcel. He is pretty good too 👍🏼
Echo Chamber Infiltrator he likes to grill and cook,
Louis Theroux is a national hero
Louis Theroux Hardly.
He definitely is!
I'm glad she asked Louis to ask and I'm glad he did I just hope he didn't go on to hurt her afterwards.
Galactic Hero
International***
"he pushed me. he didn't intend my back to break, but it did." It just ain't that easy to get away from the bad sometimes. I think lack of love and confidence are the 2 main factors with addiction. I hope she's doing well. Anyone know?
I believe her, I hear about things like this all too often. Terribly sad that individuals force themselves to stay in an abusive relationship to avoid detox and withdraw symptoms. Can't win for losing, my heart goes out to you.
Jesse Tharp she could score anywhere with ease, heroin is everywhere where she lives obviously. she's probably lying. like she lies about everything else, like Lying to her elderly guardian to get money for a """car""""
I guess you're right, but I gather her "boyfriend" acquires her heroin significantly cheaper than she ever could and with a shortage of money I doubt she'd be able to feed her habit on her own, she certainly knows that. No doubt she *could* make a break and get out of that existence but when she has someone evidently feeding her addiction the way her partner is, why would she? In a sense she's a prisoner there, but a semi-content one. Having Louis there would probably have been a great way out of it for her, I'm certain he would have helped her somehow, but she's nowhere near the realisation that she needs to do that.
Jesse Tharp that fat fuck hits her and gives her dope, why do you think she stays. If it was my blood I would execute him point blank
Individuals stay with shitty people for every reason in the book. .
She made her own bed.
Typical bully: acts like the big man when around a weak helpless woman, but when confronted he tries to deny it like a little wimp.
What a awesome last couple of lines! louie you are the best!
Alvin is bad news.
The other chipmunks are okay, though.
Go cry about it.
If you like 64 year old chain smokers, go for it bro.
She made bad decisions.
jesus christ i love louis he does such a great type of documentaries
I watched this whole program and the thing that struck me most is how the drug companies, unrestricted by regulation and high on their ability to make huge profits from a privatised and fragmented health service, basically turned a huge chunk of the population into junkies. They ruined thousands of lives and I bet they'll walk away scot free.
So proud to have an NHS that can dictate terms to these monstrous corporations and provides more than just a "take this pill" approach to health care (which was all the insurance companies - also out for profit - would pay for in Virginia).
To think that I still get some Americans arguing that their system is superior when this kind of shit is so prevalent. It simply wouldn't happen in the UK.
Marc Carran I work in the NHS and yes there are reps. I talk to them frequently - generally to pass them to people who tell them to fuck off.
But the difference between our system and their system is that there is virtually no motive for GPs to listen to them or place patients on long term opioids because a) NICE controls prices and mandates that generic alternatives (where they exist) be available at a lower price, b) that medication is reviewed for signs of addiction on a 6 monthly basis, where risk is high, c) that a medication is only licenced if it is shown to be effective and cause no harm and d) that Controlled Drugs, as they are known, are audited constantly and their use revewed by the Care Quality Commission as part of annual inspection.
None of this happens in America.
There is constant auditing and a constant watch on cost vs need which makes it much, much, much harder to game the system for profit than the US system. Reps are treated as an irritating annoyance, not a way to fob off patients or make a quick buck.
Simple fact: medication is far more controlled and accountable in the NHS.
Misinformed?
Marc Carran there are other factors at play here too: medical care is expensive in the USA. Were these people to request tests and treatment - MRIs, physiotherapy or surgery, for example - that are free on the NHS, they would be charged deductibles and their insurer may refuse to pay. This leads many to medicate the symptoms rather than heal the injury - because it's cheaper.
Also, there are less rules on paid sick leave in America. In many cases, you simply wouldn't get any. You go off sick to treat chronic pain, you loose money. Another excuse to medicate rather than treat.
This is a working class area and the expectation must be that the level of insurance affordable to them would simply encourage medication over treatment. With no oversight, and a profit incentive for practitioners to take back handers or make deals with pharma reps, GPs in Virginia were under double pressure to just hand out synthetic opioids.
This would simply not happen in the UK. At all.
Tim Austin It has nothing to do with lack of regulation.
How can I watch the whole program????
It can and will happen in the UK. The NHS is being dismantled under our noses, and people continue to vote for the people doing it. I give us 10 years, maybe 15, before we're in a situation similar to the US.
One of my favourite journalists. 🤓
It's an easy go-to, 'you aren't a prisoner'. But when you're dependent on drugs and the guy who says you're not a prisoner is the man who supplies you with drugs, yes, you are a prisoner.
If America had the type of healthcare systems that other OECD nations have, the support would be in place for detox and rehab. People could get methadone or Suboxone for the price of a dispensary fee, and their recovery could be monitored. But America still has a frontier mentality.
Katillia could have a great life, she's good looking and seems sweet besides the drug problem..
Louis is the best!!
Louis is a life saver
Louis please do a documentary on addiction to prescription drugs caused by doctors especially benzodiazepines.
I remember him doing one on American kids on medication, it's a good one
400mg?? so you have to take 40 blues to maintain? Are you on like a maintenance script? Have you tried tapering with the help of a GP? I imagine it's a really hard addiction to kick
Azzury Street Go do your research on benzodiazepines and addiction and then comeback when you are educated on the facts. If benzodiazepines don't cause addiction why have numous governments changed the usage instructions to Doctors. Look at the documentary As Prescribed and many other documentaries on benzodiazepines. Doctors to be fair have been mislead by the drug companies not only about benzodiazepines but many other drugs. However, many Doctors have chosen to ignore the warnings. Read the research by Professor Heather Ashton on benzodiazepines and addiction.
True that them Benzos fuc you up they are far worse than any street drug
Eammon Wright be glad you're getting them prescribed and not having to go out on the street to get em. In the states it tends to be a little different, but in the UK, most of what you find on the street aren't the legit pharmaceuticals people think they are.
I bet he gave her a pasting after
That was honestly brave as fuck of her
Travis Waller what the hell is a pasting is it screwing or a beating lol?
@@UzziHD that could be both I'm just not sure in what sequence.
@@UzziHD beating
jacek26lndn both at the same time lol
I live 20 mins from this town sad people this close are suffering this much!
yeeeaahooooo louissss therouuuuu is it out? this docu?
Louis you are a star. You go places people wouldn't even dare go. I applaud you. Drugs fuck you up. Believe me. Her nose is going to get broken though as soon as Louis is out of the picture.
Is there any way full episodes of Dark States can be watched from the US??
I love Louis theroux
AND WHEN LOUIS LEAVES HE GONNA BREAK HER NOSE AGAIN...GET OUT GIRL.////;]
She seems like a pretty and nice person, so sad that she is on this path. Wish I could help her...
great vid
She is so attractive and her attitude is even better. It sucks that she had this happen to her. I have read that she is in a better place now and that makes me happy. It's pretty clear that Alvin manipulated her and kept her on drugs so she wouldn't leave. She was also so brave to let Louis bring up the broken nose situation. For all she knew that could have lead to another beating off camera. I am also an addict in recovery and I would love to meet this woman.
It makes me cry to see them throw away their health and relationships.
Well... We all know after this video was filmed, that nose was broken again 😡😡😡
this is what happens when you don't teach your kids about confrontation. they end up getting manipulated into situations like this
Katilia is quite beautiful. Especially for a young woman who has had a 15 year habit. I hope she has now managed to get clean & focus on herself & her recovery.
Man she seems like she could be SO much more. I’ve been there, 3+ years clean. Hope she figures it out.
I went to school with her. I can’t believe how much she changed since then. I hope that she gets better and gets away from all of that. She was such a bright soul.
What do you think made her end up taking drugs?
@@yankeydoodle101 Life without any sign of a silver spoon or hug I guess
Yeah sure u did
@@yankeydoodle101 myob
@@yankeydoodle101 kind of the norm in this area. There’s nothing else to do.
i want louis to make a documentary with vice. get into the super gritty shit but with the louis theroux quality.
where for the love of god can we see the whole thing?
Cutilia is gorgeous
its the scary music that makes it so enticing.
I hope she's okay now
I've never seen someone who's been on heroin for 15 years with such good teeth.
These people are trying to open up and discuss their problems. This shows how humans enjoy drugs and soceity punishes them for it because we need all the cogs in the machine working. Very touching and very deep story i hope she finds help from a soceity and culture that started a war (with taxpayer $$) on a substances just to lock her up so she can repeat it over again.
Louis really should not have done that, he really shouldn’t have brought up how she said he abused her. He really doesn’t seem to understand that she isn’t in a position to protect herself and he is seriously instigating her “boyfriend” to beat her again. I have respect for Louis, but that was a _seriously_ f*cked up thing to do, and the documentary was not any better because of that 15 second clip of him denying that he hit her. I _guarantee_ that he beat the f*ck out of her after they were home for “embarassing” him and “lying” about him on national TV
Anyone reading this whose an addict i wanna say you can clean and stay clean. I got clean in 99 after a 10 year addiction. If you really want it reach out for help and take any help offered you cant do it alone, at least i couldnt.
I want to tell Louis that he should watch out for heart disease. I noticed a major crease in his ear lobe... There is a high incidence of that crease correlating to heart disease. Its called Franks Sign. He should look into it.
Jesus, my friend goes to college in Huntington, always talking about crackheads and the dope users. The worst part about it from what he's told me though is there's only about one good radio station, and its classical music. This place is truly hell.
What a shame for such beautiful woman perishing away as days go by.
Where's the full episode
That man is toxic. I hope he gets help. And I hope she leaves this situation and finds help too. I wish them both better lives
You wish a woman beating pimp a better life?
You’re too compassionate. Under what circumstances would someone deserve punishment or justice?
Shame that the BBC doesn't give any outlet to watch these if you're not in the UK. Seriously, I will pay for the episodes, *give the option*.
How much will you pay if I compile them for you in episodes in .mp4 format?
Shame. Pretty girl. As long as you're alive, it's never too late to clean up miss. All the best.
He needs to be knighted
I hope she received help and left that guy. I feel super terrible for her...
Anyone know the music playing at the start?
And round and round it goes
Her voice is nothing like what I thought it would sound like.
There is something so un-pretentious about Louis.. It makes everything more real, his docs stay with you.
The camera on you or me? Ooooooooooo brooooooo
no one said you woke up and hit her, they said you just hit her
Man these poor kids.
If you have the balls to put your abusive boyfriend on tv, you should easily have the balls to leave.
I quit dope, 4 years now. If you want to do it, accept reality and seek help.
these excuses are sad for me.
they make me frustrated, but I know it's not easy. I made excuses too, but never was i justified
what is the full doc?
I used drugs for the same time more or less but i have made breaks and now i am at 6ml methadon from12ml and use every second month 5g-20g cocain. And i start used drugs at the age of 12-13 and now i am 36 and i must say i do not want too stop but i do not want too be only high only sometimes and that is very hard because it needs that you can stay over the drugs and can sea the fun in the world and that is not easy everytime. The hardest part is the methadon because it makes ill when you take longerthan two years. I hope that the drugslaw in future participate with the people how use it because it is something that goes through all of society, and i hate that many people start hating people(even when they loved them before) when they learn the used or use drugs even family members!!!
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She could’ve been very good looking but look what drugs did to her... sad
Alvin seem like a good guy. Keeping her right
Does anyone know how I can watch full episodes of this show in the United States? This dude is brilliant and I'm a huge fan but I can't find anywhere to watch full episodes without paying $60+. Thanks for any help ahead of time
Her nose had obviously been broken, you can see the big scar on the bridge of her nose even with makeup on. And he broke her back too, damn that's crazy. Yall dudes need to stop grabbing & hitting females. I know you wouldn't want your mom or sister to get hit. I don't understand it.
I think a fair number of them come from homes where it was normal for their mother or female guardian to get slapped around like that, so unfortunately some of them will do it themselves even though they hated seeing it when they were younger. It comes from a position of weakness and their own insecurities.
I don’t understand how you could be abusive either, like I got anger issues but I’d never hit someone especially not someone that I love, abusive relationships don’t make any sense
that dude does hit her hes a chump and she is silly for staying but hey thats ADDICTION.
Why is he even dealing if he can’t afford a car??? Walking around town!!! He’s a horrible dealer!
Damn. Circle of life...imagine that mans childhood.
I hope that woman has freed herself from him.
Yeah this looks good but i can't fucking watch it. Anyone have a clue how to watch it outside of the uk?
Download Utorrent and search it on Piratebay
Yeah it's on various download sites. Rlsbb and torrents
will do, thanks!
Im in the states, works fine for me
You have access to the internet, but your search-fu is weak.
Hint: there are other sites than RUclips, and other search engines than Google.
50 cent looking great.
I’m aware that the title is in reference to the clip… but it also kind of sounds like Louis Theroux had been doing drugs for 15 years.
She's a really pretty woman, the addiction is heartbreaking. Some people are just too weak to fight & overcome it. I hope the best for her!💜
Thanks for your input snowflake. You would like books on psychology, they would really open your mind.
Fuck off.
Tracy Tyler it has absolutely nothing to do with “weakness.” Addiction is a disease, not a character flaw.
Uh, maybe never start it? Sounds crazy but......
@@anniespeckhahn5425 it's a damn choice, cancer is a disease
Sad!
Are the captions/subtitles really necessary??
P. Mid Yes
Would love louis to go to the FLDS.
Dope is so much more important to her than her self worth
She is so pretty!
My god help that poor young lady
lois documentrys are great just love it but it shows us i feel how dysfuntional and chaotic olgerghy lead capatalism is and what it leads to. i think lois could start investigating other ways of living that are positive to show us all that thier is an alternative.
whats with the random subtitles 🤤
you can see straight away that her nose has been busted. her bridge was not properly set back into place. it's even scarred.
Ya'll know he made sure her nose was broken when the cameras stopped rolling
everybody i know and, i'm sure you know, has all so at least a 15 year career with drugs. the worst drug!
...
alcohol!
She looks good for 15 years of heroin use!
I did heroin, Crack/Cocaine, benzos and all kinds of opiates for about 20 years and I'm clean for almost 4 years now. But I have to admit, that in the time I'm clean I aged so much and so fast. When I still did heroin I didn't really age. I was asked for ID when I bought cigs aso until I turned 30!! And now, since I'm clean I aged like a decade in 3 years
This video is really only 10 or 20 secounds long
"Your nose didn't get broke by me."
Bet it was after the interview, tho.
Both of them are lost souls. Not sure what to do with the life they have been giving. Drugs does that with a person too many tempations and the way outs are the most difficult to go through. In a different life both would have been living another lifestyle. Truly a shame and i hope both are gonna look back at this and thinking what the hell was i doing but somethings that state of refecltion comes to late